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    ALL MUSIC EDITION

    SOLD OUT

    What's Inside:

    Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
    • 5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
    • 5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
    • 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
    • 5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
    • Sourced from the Betty Boards, transfered by Plangent Processes
    • Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    • Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
    • The unreleased book Cornell ‘77: The Music, The Myth And The Magnificence Of The Grateful Dead’s Concert At Barton Hall by Peter Conners, published by Cornell University Press
    • In-depth essay by noted Dead scholar Nicholas Meriwether
    • Producer's Note by David Lemieux
    • Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
    • Release Date: May 5, 2017

    WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

    NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
    "Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

    BOSTON 5/7/77
    “The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

    CORNELL 5/8/77
    “...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

    “There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

    "This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

    BUFFALO 5/9/77
    "...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

    If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

    Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

    The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Boards were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

    Due May 5th, we anticipate that this revelatory boxed set will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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  • 80sfan
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    Finally listened to the scarlet>fire download that came with the purchase. It sounds amazing and i'm so excited for the full release. One very pleasant surprise...on the tape i had all these years, there is a woman in the crowd who quickly screams for a sec just as Jerry finishes the line: As i picked up my matches, and was closing the door (1:41 mark). I'm happy to say that this mystery woman's scream of delight was not cleaned up or edited out of the official release. It's the little things...
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    I'm ecstatic about the early May 77 box set and placed my order before they broke the internet the other day, but what I really yearn for these days are more releases with Brent and Jerry with his newly defined sound in the early 90s. I hope Dave finds a nice gem to release for DP 24 or beyond.
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    I suppose it's too much to ask for you to make the Scarlet>Fire one big file so when it comes up on my bar's jukebox it will play without interruption?
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    mbarilla, ah, maybe it is 2/27 and not 5/4 as I feared (as the other missing show). In addition to the exciting Dead release possibilities this opens (the BCT 72 run!, Swing!, 10/29/77!) and on and on, does anyone know if the returned Betty's include non-Dead stuff? There's some mouthwatering JG shows with Nicky Hopkins that would be sweet. And some really odd stuff which I'd love to hear - this one jumped out at me: Jefferson Starship 11.24.74 Winterland, whole show (with entire Blows Against the Empire suite) Hell yeah to that one...
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    Is an HDCD deck worth it for these?
    Has anyone here done A/B tests of Dead HDCDs between decks that decode HDCD and decks that just play them as CDs? I'm pretty happy playing Dead HDCDs on a Onkyo C-7030 deck, but it doesn't claim to know anything about HDCD decoding. The decks that do claim to do HDCD, by the likes of Oppo and Emotiva, are priced at $500 and up. From reading up on it, HDCD provides a menu of options for the sound engineer, not all of which are always used. Seems like the main loss in playing them as CDs would be in flattened peaks. And that they should have increased resolution in quieter passages no matter what they're played on. The Dead have a lot of quieter passages, and they do sound good on my current system. On the loud passages, am I missing something? I generally hate the compression of, say FM radio, but I'm not feeling like the reported compression artifact of playing HDCD as CD is in that range of obvious annoyance. Still, would the sound just open up in an obvious way with the right deck?
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    Vault lacks 2 shows from 1977 , 6.4.77 and ? I think its the night after Swing Auditorium , in Santa Barbara , 2.27.77 ?
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    for some years they went with the A plus banger, for others they went with B+ bangers, there was a strategy with all factors considered. Song selection was a major, as well as performance. SQ took third. And taking into account what they wanted to do with other series/box sets was major in selection process. One example is 1977, 4.25.77 or 5.26.77 ? could have went with either, but I was always under the impression 5.26.77 will be selected as a stand alone release. Both excellent shows but is either A+ ? Example from 1967, 11.10.67 or 10.22.67 ? both killer but i am under the impression the 10.22.67 will be released as studio remaster bonus disc, similar to new ly released 7.29.66 with GD debut album. Its only one disc compared to the two from 11.10.67. No doubt that 11.10.67 is one of the finest to be ever released and near the top of 30 trips selections with all factors considered for 70's shows they could have filled the set with all A+ bangers and used some of these betty boards. I am pretty sure they have had access to these for a good amount of time, like before even before May 2015. I also mentioned recently that the 2016 Dave's Picks selections could have been in the 30 trips - 1974, 1976, 1970, 1981 other selection factor, some shows build off each other because of song selection. "Viola Lee Blues" is the first example 1966-67, but it really picks up in the 80's some of these similarities were stand out moments from each show, but its really all good to me 80-81 "Feel Like A Stranger" 81-82 "Truckin" 82-83 "Scarlet Fire" "UJB" 83-84 "Playin"->"UJB" 84-85 Couldnt really find much similarity with the shows 85-86 "They Love Each Other" 86-87 "They Love Each Other" "Man Smart Woman Smarter" 87-88 "Hell in a Bucket"-> "Sugaree" "Walkin Blues" "Bird Song" "Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad" to be fair a lot of the shows from the 70's had just as many SQ issues as 80's , the big difference and reason 70s era does not stick out like sore thumb in some of the cases is the method and materials to how they were recorded. I said at the time if some of these were stand alone releases no matter which year or era, some fans would be complaining, because they have cuts, patches, dropouts, but since it was lumped together its almost an afterthought for some shows. But the 80s shows took a lot of the hits , as usual also some of these shows would not have been released in my opinion without this 30 show set. And I am not strictly talking about 80s / 90s either way Rhinos keep the Grateful Dead releases coming, I can find something to like from any show
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    hey Mr7171551, I hear ya about getting older. If they release these for 20 years (I sure hope physical media will still be around that long), I'll be 67 when they're done. And then lots to listen to in retirement :) As for why only 15,000 copies - my 2 cents is that it makes perfect sense. It's fairly hardcore Deadheads who want the other three shows in the box, even though I think most of us agree they're all on par with Cornell (and my favorite of all four shows is actually 5/9/77 not least because of that Help>Slip>Franklin's). Anyway, the 50,000 worldwide will be true for Cornell because, right or wrong, even casual fans, not to mention fans of "jambands" - have heard of Cornell. Not so much New Haven, alas. Having said that, I surely was alarmed that the box could sell out before I got my order past the electronic bugbears. PS - Keithfan, I like "May 1977 TOO (The Old One)" - nice.
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    Well, now I just need to stay alive for the next,how did Dave put it?-5/10/20 years!!!! Ha, bloody, Ha. Need to move those Betty boards a bit faster before us older Deadheads just up and become members of The Grateful Dead ourselves. Just saying.P.s the Berkeley Theater 1972 box set- Can I pre-order it now? I'm getting too old for another Thursday debacle. I live in the UK and ended up getting up at 5am Friday(our time) to try and complete the bloody order. Now that Warner Elektra are taking my money, you'd a thought a big company like that would have been able to handle the release. Also, why limit the box set to 15,000? I'm certain you could easily sell 50,000 around the world.
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    Yeah, good point Mr. Jack Straw, about the Bettys. Did they ever say how many shows were recovered? I'm with you guys on the box sets - it's not so much that I care if they release 80s, I just don't want it to be at the expense of having to wait for the good stuff, like the '76 tapes, Port Chester, Fillmore East, Summer / Fall '72, mid-1973, Winterland '74, etc. But I don't believe Rhino is about to go experimenting at this point. I think they released the runs of 80s / 90s shows they thought were marketable, and are focused on the best stuff left in the Vault now. If there were to be a later era box, I think the Vince years are preferable, with no MIDI, if that was even going on during his tenure. I just dig his keyboard style more, and I'm back into enjoying the harmony vocals again. Syracuse 78 - lol, you said it man, exactly what I was thinking when I had my own ordering issues - when have they ever handled volume well. And part of it, no doubt, is what someone else mentioned already - the problem was exacerbated by all of the double / triple / quadruple clicking. Well at least it was cleared up and everyone who wants one can get one.
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CLICK HERE FOR THE
ALL MUSIC EDITION

SOLD OUT

What's Inside:

Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
• 5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
• 5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
• 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
• 5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
• Sourced from the Betty Boards, transfered by Plangent Processes
• Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
• Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
• The unreleased book Cornell ‘77: The Music, The Myth And The Magnificence Of The Grateful Dead’s Concert At Barton Hall by Peter Conners, published by Cornell University Press
• In-depth essay by noted Dead scholar Nicholas Meriwether
• Producer's Note by David Lemieux
• Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
• Release Date: May 5, 2017

WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
"Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

BOSTON 5/7/77
“The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

CORNELL 5/8/77
“...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

“There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

"This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

BUFFALO 5/9/77
"...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Boards were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

Due May 5th, we anticipate that this revelatory boxed set will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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After 5 hours, it looks like someone at Warner started bouncing orders through the Rhino Store....finally worked.. Thanks for the Scarlet>Fire DL. An unexpected treat.
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Yes!!!!! I was calm and knew I would finally get through. Big thanks to rhino! Bad timing as I just broke down and bought the July 78 box two days ago. If this was any other box I might have skipped this but of course I couldn't pass it up.
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After hours of trying to add to cart, came up with 6 in my cart. Updated cart got booted out again. Then finally got a fresh cart, added in and went to check out. Completed it all and while confirming order, kicked me back to the beginning but this time it went through. Order confirmed. It is working better now.
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It looks like they have re-routed the ordering to Rhino and it is still available. I would not wait as I do think it will sell out quickly. I agree with others that 15,000 was too low for this release, especially when Dave's Picks is a higher limit now. This is a monumental release and they should know that. They probably think making the downloads available for sale for the other shows was a way to make sure no-one would get shut out from the music itself, but still 15,000 is too low. Hope everyone who wants the CD set has a fair chance to get it now.
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Just ordered without a hitch...process went along for all three windows that I had going. Should I order a backup?Confirmation on credit card, paypal, and email from warner. It's about time.
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But I got my order confirmed (through the Rhino-flagged portal).Usual GDM bullshit hits next level. And I will forget this by the time we have another box to order. Will go through the same shit and be surprised at it all again. Horrible company selling GREAT music.
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you may have to clear your cookies or switch to a private browsing mode so your page isn't cashed, but you should now be redirected to the Rhino checkout page. After 5+ hours of agony, my order went through perfectly on the first try over at Rhino. Miller time.
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I got routed through Rhino's site. Was a tad clunky. Went through. 100% times superior to Warner. Was this a minor pain? Yes. Will I think it was totally worth it when it arrives? Yes.
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I was unable to order using IE, so I switched to Chrome and was redirected to a Rhino site. Had to make a new log in with Rhino, but it worked. Good luck
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They have it fixed. Now redirects you to the rhinostore site, and went thru, have conformation number and now can r lax afte 5 hrs of this nonsense im gonna smoke a bunch of sour diesel and listen to the run. Hooray!!!!!
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Took 4 hours nonstop, finally went thru on my android with chrome. Don't give up folks, stay positive!
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Got through, sent to Rhino, order completed - it is mine! Hang in there, everyone.
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Rhino came through!!!! What the initial SNAFU was? Garbage. Idiotic. Great way to lose customers. We're a dying lot, after all.
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My guess is they took the Warner site down and rerouted all traffic to Rhino. I'm not too happy because Rhino totally botched an order at Christmas but hopefully this edition of May 77 won't suffer the same fate of being lost in transit for weeks.
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ordering process is like punishment for being a fan. i was eventually able to make it work,after four hours of total bullshit. totally uncool
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....I was also diverted to Rhino. Thanks Doc! Good job manning the post good sir....
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Friends, After HOURS of trying on the computer with no luck, I got through on my mobile device first try. Give it a try yourself and I hope you have the same luck I did. Cheers
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Not exactly sure what I did been a long night. But I got rhino on MY PHONE LIKE THAT OTHER PERSON SAID. then figured out how to add to my cart but I had to hit another button to make it work.
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After trying, and trying, and trying my order finally went through. About time. I was just about ready to walk away. Cleared my browser cache and it worked after countless "Forbidden" errors.Sheesh! I was diverted to Rhino as well. I guess good old dead.net (or Warner) just went dead.
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Rhino comes through again! Thank the Dr.!!! Those jokers at Warner need to get there act together this took years off my life, resulted in countless profanities and made my wife think twice about marrying a Dead Freak. Now I just have to find a way to deal with the $15,000 worth of box sets that will show up on my credit card after all those forbidden messages and looped cart purchases.
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Yes, blame David LeMeieux, and while you are at it, if Jerry had not made such wonderful music or if Bear had not recorded all that wonderful music, or if Edison had not invented recording technology... There is lots of unwarranted blame to go around. Maybe it is a White House conspiracy to drive us too crazy to vote the liberal ticket in future elections? On the other hand, since this has happened before (and you are right to point out that the commercial concerns that handle these transactions should do a better job), perhaps you should adjust your expectations. You can't expect them to be just exactly perfect! I, too, sat on the computer for a few hours after the email came out. Then I went for a walk for an hour or so. When I came back it all worked out, just as I expected it would! May 5 seems so long away!!!
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It took me less than 5 minutes at 525pm West Coast time just now Am I just lucky?
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....This May is my birth month. And I'm getting this box, Felt Forum, The Dead doc on Amazon and Dead & Company in Vegas. Happy Birthday to me.
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Like so many others, after 4+ hours I too have finally gotten a confirmation number. I don't know if this make a difference but I kept hitting my Cart button because I knew I had a copy in it and the 403s just got worse. When I hit the Add To Cart button one last time was when I was immediately redirected to Rhino. Glad to be in but after soooo many times with this same scenario (Europe '72 was such a nightmare fiasco)I just can't believe they've still not gotten their act together any better then this. But patience (and a lot of cursing and sweating) eventually paid off, so keep on tryin' y'all.
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They say start with a positive, so I will. Looking forward to these shows, thankful I got a conformation, and thanks to the person that suggested Private Window, that did the trick. Now the negative - Painful, Painful, Painful! This was worse than trying to deal with getting Radiohead tickets for the Greek. For those that get their order in, enjoy!
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order it here, it will re-direct to Rhino automatically. Good luck!
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After several hours it finally went through. Forget about refreshing, I clicked add to cart again and it went straight to the rhino store. All is well now. Whew.
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I'm going to do a rare thing for me on this site. Sorry. Apologize in advance. I love the releases. I love the sound quality. I love the liner notes. I love the seaside chats. I love archive photographs. I love the effort and enthusiasm to get this music out and many, myself included thought this was coming and it has. Amen. All that said as far as checking out to order this thing. Man alive give me the last 1 hour plus of my life back. FU.
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As mentioned in an earlier post. Instead of clicking on my cart at Dead.net, I clicked on add (the item) and this took me to Rhino. Done. Now I can sleep. Wish you all well with getting your copies.
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Finally. Finally. Clearly, there was scrambling on the front- and/or back-end systems. Would not have wanted to be a member of that Network Ops, nor App Dev team. That out of the way, this feels like discovering the Holy Grail. We chose wisely.
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Not knowing Rhino's web address I typed in rhino music and got an alert saying that my computer has been blocked and my credit card info etc. is being hacked and if I don't call this 1-888 number in the next five minutes my computer will be shut down.
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Took me 6 hours but finally went through on Rhino site. Getting tickets to SEE the Grateful Dead years ago was easier ;)
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Well, you know what they say about that "Once in awhile...". Stand by most of my original comment but I'm pretty happy now. Hope most of you are as well. Blessings.
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Talk about paying dues! Weren't the 5 billion brain cells a sufficient advance. Hard to call it a wasted day, as there is gold at the end of the slog, but if I ran my business like this I'd be eating dirt.
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5 and a half hours after the announcement, and I still can't get in. Absolutely absurd. You expect us all to waste hours of our time just trying to get to an order page? The people who run dead.net have obviously learned nothing in the years of running this site. Arguably the biggest thing that you have sold here, at least in terms of the MOST REQUESTED DEAD SHOW OF ALL TIME (and Dave reiterated this in his chat), and you can't even fucking order it. BEYOND pathetic.
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Rhino comes through... This was an exercise for sure.Dead.net. either stick with a company that gets it done or lose fans. But yeah you don't care right? Were suckers, right? You know I see a bunch of Blockbuster Video stores on every corner!!! And what happened to them? LEARN from this boys//////
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It is finally working now. Hallelujah. Best of luck!
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What an ordeal! Yep, same as Europe '72... I was thinking anytime now I was going to end up with like 30 order confirmation emails. I gave up a few times for like 15 mins at a time. persistence, then the Rhino site pops up....and DONE! Why limit the BEST and MOST requested ever show box-set??? Or why not make this one 30,000 units?
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I had to do a triple take when the email notification popped up on my phone about this box set. I was sitting at work and spent the next hour trying to order it without luck. Put my wife on it and 5 hours later I finally have a copy of the box set ordered! Poor wife tried via the website, and waited on hold for over two hours only to get disconnected/hung up on. Me thinks they were not really prepared for all the folks that would be interested in this. Hopefully everyone gets a copy who wants one, and people are not trying to buy them all up to profit off of later...
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Thank you so much for that.....now I can do something else with my life.....
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Not sure why the system put 2 in the checkout but I figured someone here will need a miracle. Will post when they arrive. Good look everyone. This took far too many hours.
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Not sure why the system put 2 in the checkout but I figured someone here will need a miracle. Will post when they arrive. Good look everyone. This took far too many hours.
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Uh, Hi... I didn't know that all a yous was watchin'. I take back the sex comments and the drug references. https://youtu.be/b0FViwZmsGQ Minas, I think you picked the wrong day to start talking about your women's underarm hair fetish. So Dave pronounced it Veneeeeeta. Like Velveeta. I thought that was a short "e". 8/27/72
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