MAY 1977: Get Shown The Light Box

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CLICK HERE FOR THE
ALL MUSIC EDITION
SOLD OUT

What's Inside:

Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
• 5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
• 5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
• 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
• 5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
• Sourced from the Betty Boards, transfered by Plangent Processes
• Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
• Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
• The unreleased book Cornell ‘77: The Music, The Myth And The Magnificence Of The Grateful Dead’s Concert At Barton Hall by Peter Conners, published by Cornell University Press
• In-depth essay by noted Dead scholar Nicholas Meriwether
• Producer's Note by David Lemieux
• Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
• Release Date: May 5, 2017

WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
"Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

BOSTON 5/7/77
“The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

CORNELL 5/8/77
“...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

“There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

"This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

BUFFALO 5/9/77
"...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Boards were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

Due May 5th, we anticipate that this revelatory boxed set will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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February 18, 2017 - 10:31am

#771

80sfan

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S>F download

Finally listened to the scarlet>fire download that came with the purchase. It sounds amazing and i'm so excited for the full release. One very pleasant surprise...on the tape i had all these years, there is a woman in the crowd who quickly screams for a sec just as Jerry finishes the line: As i picked up my matches, and was closing the door (1:41 mark). I'm happy to say that this mystery woman's scream of delight was not cleaned up or edited out of the official release. It's the little things...
February 18, 2017 - 10:07am

#772

mcgruber

Joined:
March 8, 2015

We need more Brent shows

I'm ecstatic about the early May 77 box set and placed my order before they broke the internet the other day, but what I really yearn for these days are more releases with Brent and Jerry with his newly defined sound in the early 90s. I hope Dave finds a nice gem to release for DP 24 or beyond.
February 18, 2017 - 9:51am

#773

Kesey The Cat

Joined:
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Scarlet Fire

I suppose it's too much to ask for you to make the Scarlet>Fire one big file so when it comes up on my bar's jukebox it will play without interruption?
February 18, 2017 - 9:50am

#774

claney

Joined:
July 20, 2007

Non-Dead Betty's, Live 'Blows Against the Empire'

mbarilla, ah, maybe it is 2/27 and not 5/4 as I feared (as the other missing show). In addition to the exciting Dead release possibilities this opens (the BCT 72 run!, Swing!, 10/29/77!) and on and on, does anyone know if the returned Betty's include non-Dead stuff? There's some mouthwatering JG shows with Nicky Hopkins that would be sweet. And some really odd stuff which I'd love to hear - this one jumped out at me: Jefferson Starship 11.24.74 Winterland, whole show (with entire Blows Against the Empire suite) Hell yeah to that one...
February 18, 2017 - 9:46am

#775

Whit Wye

Joined:
February 16, 2017

Is an HDCD deck worth it for these?

Has anyone here done A/B tests of Dead HDCDs between decks that decode HDCD and decks that just play them as CDs? I'm pretty happy playing Dead HDCDs on a Onkyo C-7030 deck, but it doesn't claim to know anything about HDCD decoding. The decks that do claim to do HDCD, by the likes of Oppo and Emotiva, are priced at $500 and up. From reading up on it, HDCD provides a menu of options for the sound engineer, not all of which are always used. Seems like the main loss in playing them as CDs would be in flattened peaks. And that they should have increased resolution in quieter passages no matter what they're played on. The Dead have a lot of quieter passages, and they do sound good on my current system. On the loud passages, am I missing something? I generally hate the compression of, say FM radio, but I'm not feeling like the reported compression artifact of playing HDCD as CD is in that range of obvious annoyance. Still, would the sound just open up in an obvious way with the right deck?
February 18, 2017 - 9:32am

#776

mbarilla

Joined:
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Schwing to the Swing

Vault lacks 2 shows from 1977 , 6.4.77 and ? I think its the night after Swing Auditorium , in Santa Barbara , 2.27.77 ?
February 18, 2017 - 9:24am

#777

mbarilla

Joined:
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Mr. Jack Straw, 30 trips selections

for some years they went with the A plus banger, for others they went with B+ bangers, there was a strategy with all factors considered. Song selection was a major, as well as performance. SQ took third. And taking into account what they wanted to do with other series/box sets was major in selection process. One example is 1977, 4.25.77 or 5.26.77 ? could have went with either, but I was always under the impression 5.26.77 will be selected as a stand alone release. Both excellent shows but is either A+ ? Example from 1967, 11.10.67 or 10.22.67 ? both killer but i am under the impression the 10.22.67 will be released as studio remaster bonus disc, similar to new ly released 7.29.66 with GD debut album. Its only one disc compared to the two from 11.10.67. No doubt that 11.10.67 is one of the finest to be ever released and near the top of 30 trips selections with all factors considered for 70's shows they could have filled the set with all A+ bangers and used some of these betty boards. I am pretty sure they have had access to these for a good amount of time, like before even before May 2015. I also mentioned recently that the 2016 Dave's Picks selections could have been in the 30 trips - 1974, 1976, 1970, 1981 other selection factor, some shows build off each other because of song selection. "Viola Lee Blues" is the first example 1966-67, but it really picks up in the 80's some of these similarities were stand out moments from each show, but its really all good to me 80-81 "Feel Like A Stranger" 81-82 "Truckin" 82-83 "Scarlet Fire" "UJB" 83-84 "Playin"->"UJB" 84-85 Couldnt really find much similarity with the shows 85-86 "They Love Each Other" 86-87 "They Love Each Other" "Man Smart Woman Smarter" 87-88 "Hell in a Bucket"-> "Sugaree" "Walkin Blues" "Bird Song" "Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad" to be fair a lot of the shows from the 70's had just as many SQ issues as 80's , the big difference and reason 70s era does not stick out like sore thumb in some of the cases is the method and materials to how they were recorded. I said at the time if some of these were stand alone releases no matter which year or era, some fans would be complaining, because they have cuts, patches, dropouts, but since it was lumped together its almost an afterthought for some shows. But the 80s shows took a lot of the hits , as usual also some of these shows would not have been released in my opinion without this 30 show set. And I am not strictly talking about 80s / 90s either way Rhinos keep the Grateful Dead releases coming, I can find something to like from any show
February 18, 2017 - 9:19am

#778

claney

Joined:
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Why 15,000

hey Mr7171551, I hear ya about getting older. If they release these for 20 years (I sure hope physical media will still be around that long), I'll be 67 when they're done. And then lots to listen to in retirement :) As for why only 15,000 copies - my 2 cents is that it makes perfect sense. It's fairly hardcore Deadheads who want the other three shows in the box, even though I think most of us agree they're all on par with Cornell (and my favorite of all four shows is actually 5/9/77 not least because of that Help>Slip>Franklin's). Anyway, the 50,000 worldwide will be true for Cornell because, right or wrong, even casual fans, not to mention fans of "jambands" - have heard of Cornell. Not so much New Haven, alas. Having said that, I surely was alarmed that the box could sell out before I got my order past the electronic bugbears. PS - Keithfan, I like "May 1977 TOO (The Old One)" - nice.
February 18, 2017 - 8:31am

#779

UncleBill'sBand

Joined:
January 4, 2014

Future releases

Well, now I just need to stay alive for the next,how did Dave put it?-5/10/20 years!!!! Ha, bloody, Ha. Need to move those Betty boards a bit faster before us older Deadheads just up and become members of The Grateful Dead ourselves. Just saying.P.s the Berkeley Theater 1972 box set- Can I pre-order it now? I'm getting too old for another Thursday debacle. I live in the UK and ended up getting up at 5am Friday(our time) to try and complete the bloody order. Now that Warner Elektra are taking my money, you'd a thought a big company like that would have been able to handle the release. Also, why limit the box set to 15,000? I'm certain you could easily sell 50,000 around the world.
February 18, 2017 - 8:12am

#780

KeithFan2112

Joined:
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Box Sets

Yeah, good point Mr. Jack Straw, about the Bettys. Did they ever say how many shows were recovered? I'm with you guys on the box sets - it's not so much that I care if they release 80s, I just don't want it to be at the expense of having to wait for the good stuff, like the '76 tapes, Port Chester, Fillmore East, Summer / Fall '72, mid-1973, Winterland '74, etc. But I don't believe Rhino is about to go experimenting at this point. I think they released the runs of 80s / 90s shows they thought were marketable, and are focused on the best stuff left in the Vault now. If there were to be a later era box, I think the Vince years are preferable, with no MIDI, if that was even going on during his tenure. I just dig his keyboard style more, and I'm back into enjoying the harmony vocals again. Syracuse 78 - lol, you said it man, exactly what I was thinking when I had my own ordering issues - when have they ever handled volume well. And part of it, no doubt, is what someone else mentioned already - the problem was exacerbated by all of the double / triple / quadruple clicking. Well at least it was cleared up and everyone who wants one can get one.

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CLICK HERE FOR THE
ALL MUSIC EDITION

SOLD OUT

What's Inside:

Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
• 5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
• 5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
• 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
• 5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
• Sourced from the Betty Boards, transfered by Plangent Processes
• Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
• Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
• The unreleased book Cornell ‘77: The Music, The Myth And The Magnificence Of The Grateful Dead’s Concert At Barton Hall by Peter Conners, published by Cornell University Press
• In-depth essay by noted Dead scholar Nicholas Meriwether
• Producer's Note by David Lemieux
• Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
• Release Date: May 5, 2017

WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
"Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

BOSTON 5/7/77
“The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

CORNELL 5/8/77
“...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

“There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

"This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

BUFFALO 5/9/77
"...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Boards were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

Due May 5th, we anticipate that this revelatory boxed set will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

Guess We'll Have To Wait and See

Born Cross Eyed: Curious about the box details too. Cool if it matches the size of the first May ’77 box. According to Cornell Press, the 200 page hardback book that comes with (in?) the new box is 5.5” by 8.3”. My May ’77 box measures 5.95” x 7.75” x 2.05” so, if the book's “in” the box. . . Guess we’ll have to wait and see. Maybe a Dr. Rhino “Box Opening” video? Onward!

Good Old Dick Latvala

Fluffua 01: "I know it's been posted before but didn't Dick say even if he had the tapes he wouldn't release Cornell because of taper tapes being traded?" Yeah he said it, but never underestimate Dick's propensity for hyperbole. He contradicted himself through the years, but only in the name of extreme enthusiasm which I always found to be endearing. When old Dick started I think one of his primary goals was to get stuff released that was unknown to the trading community at large. Dick's 1-3 were exactly that. You have to consider the context of the times. Pristine SBDs were rare and much less accessible. Most of them that turned up commonly in collections were sourced from the Bettys leaked through the storage locker auction. The internet fundamentally altered those circumstances greatly. Dick's thinking was "everyone has it" but now everyone really has everything; at least access to all that circulates. There is unknown stuff out there but of what quality (performance and sonic) compared to these landmark shows that "everyone has". God rest his soul, but Dick said a lot of stuff that just no longer holds water or perhaps never did.

slow clap

This is excellent, my friend. You made my day! (this comment was in response to the looks like rain song posted below)

I ordered May 1977 via phone but ...

.. their system crashed while they entering my info - after Rhino's system crashed twice while I was trying to place the order online early this morning. I got the order number via email - but I won't believe it until I get the CD set. On a side note - the name & address on my account was completely messed up. When Rhino took over order fulfillment they had my name down as my sister's name because she ordered the Dick's Picks 2017 subscription for me. That explains why I was getting emails addressed to her, but she was getting the merchandise. Good thing we live nearby. I never had this problem in the past when she ordered some Dead gift for me. The C/S rep also gave me the name and phone of Rhino's C/S manager - but I called him so I could get the correct info on my account, but I got a voice mail. I tried to get the info on my account corrected three times in the past - heck - I was given "Escalation Numbers" which Rhino/Warner Bros says is a big deal - but it obviously isn't. They really need to hire someone that doesn't frack everything up - like the previous order fulfillment company they used.

First Row Buffalo

Me and a couple of friends had been following the band on this tour since the Spectrum shows in Philadelphia. Barton Hall way basically a glorified gymnasium. About the size of an indoor basketball court. No seating. After the show we went back to the rear entrance and waited for them to come out. A light snowfall was swirling around, big billowing flakes blazed like white fireflies as they caught the parking lot lights. Two black stretch limos were idling by the door. There weren't any other fans around, just some crew and university officials.The door swung open and they all tumbled out. Each one of them was carrying a black attaché case. The band had been running their own label for awhile by now and we'd bought most of our tickets for this tour mail-order through the Grateful Dead office in San Francisco. None of us were speaking up so I did: “We've got first row for Buffalo tomorrow night!" I blurted out to none of them in particular as I held them up. “Oh yeah? Lemme see them" Phil said. I handed all four to him. Bill, Keith and Donna had gotten into one of the stretches and left. Looking them over, he asked: “Did you get these from our office?" “Yeah, we did. Mail order" I responded. Phil had handed a couple of them around to Jerry and Bob. Commenting to the others, Jerry remarked: “Well at least something's working" They all chuckled. I told them what a great show this night was and, for some reason repeated that the tickets that they were holding are for the first row in Buffalo. Bobby said: “Let me see all those" and gathered them up. Jerry and Phil said goodbye and piled into the limo. Bobby slid in behind them, closed the door and they started to speed off, with our tickets! We ran after them yelling for them to stop. After a few yards, the limo stopped and the rear window dropped down as we caught up. We could hear them laughing riotously as Bobby's arm emerged holding the tickets, splayed out like a hand of cards. “See you tomorrow" he said though his laughter. Edit Reply

@ Terry Tolkin

Great story!

Happiness! to ALAIN

ALAIN+1 I GOT IT TO ... AND A DELIVERY FOR THE SAME CLOSE DATE THAN YOUR... ;) JEAN PIERRE

To buy or not to buy

wondering if anyone listened to the morning dew and compared it to your own copies? Is it just me or is jerry's guitar slightly undervolumed in the new mix? I have recordings of cornell and the night before and after. I think I have a crappy copy of New Haven somewhere. On the fence if they changed the mix too much

Salut, Jean-Pierre !

I'm glad to see you here, Jean-Pierre ! Do you know these 4 concerts? I only know that of Ithaca. I am impatient, feverish and excited. The next three months will be long ...

Got Yours

After last year's '78 box, this one was assured, the easiest prediction of any release they've ever made. Still nice to see it in three dimensions...well, two at the moment. Dave said 100 shows, from the years '71, '72, '73, '76, '77 and '78. They're not limiting the 'Betty' tapes to these big special releases and boxes, the Boston '73 and Felt Forum '71 Dave's Picks are both 'Betty' tapes too. This is all as I understood it from watching the video. Would love to see any and all of the May 1973 shows released, but beyond that...? I could easily do with what we already have of the '80s and '90s and limit releases to '60s and '70s shows. Especially this year's Dave's Picks...

If in Doubt, Buy One, I Say.......

I think this will sell out sooner rather than later. Book sounds cool, and I imagine prices for this will rise quickly on the cursed Ebay down the road. (Still want my Dave's Picks 5 and 9, but too pricey for this Head.) I did just buy a second box for my older bro' who saw a lot of shows in the early-mid 80's with his wife. He's going through some rough times too, and I always feel the Dead add a healthy perspective to living life in general. (Topic for another time.) We are a blessed community to have all these reels returned. Enough of the "vault is running low" talk and "Dick got all the good picks first" chatter that have been present on these boards from time to time. How much things can change so quickly. Life is very good for Deadheads right now! Dave's 21 was the first of the released prodigal son reels. It's my favorite DaP yet, and that's saying a lot. (Of course, the most recent release is often my favorite, but this time I believe it's the real deal.) Peace out! Thanks to all involved! Jerry, we still miss you, but the fans and communities you left behind still cherish the music and love you! Be kind, all! Peace and out!

I Knew I Forgot Something

I want a Window Pain(sorry I know its wrong.) 2.0 That's what made vol. 1 so special as a small boxset in my opinion. Please make these great books of music marry up.

July 78

Just got my July 78 box in the mail (#14265) the day after I ordered the 77 box :)

Re: Sans Souci

I have a kayak paddle named Sans Souci. It was custom made and you typically put your name and the name of the paddle on them. Its absolutely beautiful with woodwork like one of Jerry's custom guitars. So pretty I almost never use it..., don't want to bang it up rocks. Edit: wow.. the post I replied to is like 20 down now, its a reply to VGuy and Gullum re: article attached showing Garcia's old house in Stinson Beach is for sale.. This thread is active for some reason.

Sans Souci

Yeah Jim, who are all these new folks and where did they come from? A few days ago there was just a handful of us kicking it around here. The more the merrier. :)

Imagine coming on here and not ordering this box set!

I am eager for this to sell out because I am not going to be able to resist buying another for much longer. this is almost too good to be true!

I just bought Jerry's house....

....party time!! The more the merrier.

Sans Souci

Remember the Old and In the Way release where Peter Rowan tells about how Jerry met him at the door of Sans Souci picking a banjo? Just imagine Jerry and Peter picking and grinning with those ocean views! Dang.

VGuy72

Hey I'll play some tunes at your house party if you like?

Happy Friday Folks

Happy friday folks. Well I'm satisfied. I vented a wee bit after spending what seemed like an eternity to place my order. Got through. Order placed. TPTB acted quickly and have sent out at least two email updates that I know of. All good things. Very much looking forward to the long weekend and this box.

I'm planning on making one of the walls lickable....

....it's everyone's guess which wall it is. Happy hunting!....

Floodwaker, Terrapin Limited

Somewhere around the end of the 90's San Francisco denied the request for a permit to build the Terrapin Museum/Theme Park.At least that's what I heard/read back then. And yes, you can still buy Terrapin Limited but I don't know if they pressed more copies or if these are still part of the original 50,000 run.

Pay Pal Option

I'm wondering why you can't use the option of pay pal credit to order this item??

SO excited !!!

Yes! Yes!! Yes!!!We all had a feeling this was coming. It's just so right, with just exactly perfect timing. This feels like some great pinnacle of collecting, does it not? ... Brothers and Sisters ... Betty's Barton is Back !!! Yes, I am excited, can you tell? Such a killer trio of shows, with 5/5/77 to boot. I can't wait to hear how these sound! I don't usually bite on the big boxes. But this one, how could you say no?

Re: Sans Souci

I've got to say as I looked through those pictures, read the creative descriptors and envisioned all of the happenings and things that unfolded in that house. I just kept hearing this cackle. This Cackling laugh and fast talker. I got to say my heart swelled not only at the views but envisioning being a fly on the wall back in the day. What an amazing property. Thanks for sharing. Sixtus P.S. I always wondered what became of the Terapin Limited project. I similarly recall purchasing that one back in the day and being enthused about some kind of permanent living GD Experience in the works. It's current status and whereabouts as reported saddens me

Vguy 2,100,000

Your figure assumes everyone from the artists to the guy working in the mailing room to the manufacturers the producers worked for free. Add to that the typical numbers the major entertainment industry wants from a project and what all the Dave's, box sets etc actually generate and we should be thanking Warners Rhino for even bothering

Yeah, but....

....that's still a lot of grilled cheese sandwiches.

What a grateful day

ordered the may 77 box and DaP 21 knocked on my door! I'm in Italy and friday the 17th is like friday the 13th in the US, for me today is rainbows and unicorns Rock on Deadland

Freedom

1st I'm happy we both live in a country that unlike any other country in the world guarantees us through the 1st amendment the righ to disagree freely on this or any other issue. 2nd I'm equally happy we live under a system that likethankfully numerous others in the world are able to get those grilled cheeses without some individual deciding I make too many sandwiches or that a certain item is frivolous and the economy should make only socially responsible items for example Mozart is much more responsible therefore that's what those who know what's best for us decide should be available aka a command economy

Not sure what we're disagreeing on snafu....

....personally, grilled cheese sandwiches and a beer were always on my radar after a show. If there are tomatoes in the sandwich, even better. Multi grain flaxseed bread please....

bastards

http://www.sfgate.com/art/article/Parks-commission-gives-Summer-of-Love… Park Commission says no to Summer of Love anniversary concert A City Hall rally followed by two hours of impassioned testimony that included a man on his knees begging and a sing-along to “Give Peace a Chance” failed to convince the San Francisco Recreation and Park Commission that it should allow a free 50th anniversary Summer of Love concert in Golden Gate Park. By a unanimous vote Thursday, the commission upheld a staff decision to deny promoter Boots Hughston a permit for his planned June 4 event at the Polo Field in Golden Gate Park. Because of concerns over public safety, traffic, lack of organization and a wildly fluctuating crowd-size estimate, Hughston was advised to find a partner with more concert promotion experience and submit a new application. This almost certainly means a free concert will not happen during the 50th anniversary of the Summer of Love, he said. ..... The whole world is watching us. How can we not have a Summer of Love concert?” said Trina Robbins, 78. “The worst thing that might happen is that a bunch of senior citizens get stoned on pot.” The thought of this reduced Ann Cohen, one of the founders of the San Francisco Oracle underground newspaper, to tears. “We are all in our 60s and 70s,” she pleaded, “and we want to do it again one more time.” But even tears could not stop Boots from getting the boot. Which is rare, because of the 55,000 Rec and Park permits sought each year, less than 1 percent are denied.

Im Back Baby, Im Back!!!!!!!

Once Dantian got up here in heaven, I lost my green card and they booted me out!!!!!! Im Back in the Saddle AGAIN

Why buy 2 ? To make someone happy !

I bought two Dave's pics number 19 Honolulu Hawaii, gave it to my friend for his birthday, he was ecstatic him and I have been to dozens of shows together, Worse came to worse you could sell it and eBay for $150 just to burn the ass of the jerks selling them for $500 . I never sold anything on eBay before so I imagine they take their cut , and then you have to pay for shipping, so maybe $160 good luck making your decision .

I concur w/ the panel- it is

I concur w/ the panel- it is excellent news to finally get a proper Cornell '77 release.I was able to procure my copy early this am. Considering the vast amount of monies we fans have given to this band, over the years, it is unacceptable to have a non-operational web host/ web vendor system for these releases. Hope everyone get an opportunity to buy their copy prior to "sold out" status.

WOW

Just listened to the Scarlet>Fire download and I absolutely love this mix. It sounds, dare I say, JUST EXACTLY PERFECT! Nicely done Betty!

FloridaBabaloo

Welcome back, FloridaBobaloo! Missed your sunset avatar and "enroached" never seemed quite right!

Duryea

If it doesn't work out, maybe they can just make it a part of Hardly Strictly.

Scarlet>Fire download

Could some kind soul help a brother out?I downloaded the file and windows media player won't let me play it.something to do with Codec.Thanx

Thanks Gollum

I agree. Encroached never felt right. Kind alike a pair of jeans that wear too tight.I pulled out Cornell today, gave it a listen. I can see why some say it's over rated. I can see why some say it's the pinnacle. And I am glad this is happening. We have all tossed in thoughts about this over the years, but now it's actually in the pike. Seems strange in a way. The box with the other shows however has got to be antipated like a childhood Christmas morning. I have not heard any of the others, so that's got me very curious. The 78 box is still giving me the grins. Great energy in that collection to my ears. Now can 6.10.73 be in the works I wonder?

The Cornell Morning Dew....

....GOAT? I'll throw my ballot in that hat. Haven't heard it in a long, long time. Shame on me. Three Jerry peaks in the final jam, every one different, just like Lemieux pointed out. Stunningly beautiful. I know everyone has different tastes in music, but if one doesn't like, or appreciate the audio art going on here, you're lost friend.....chumdead, unfortunately I cannot offer any help. Try a different player maybe? Tight jeans bobaloo? That's my problem lately. Didn't think it would pertain to you. Congrats on shedding the weight brother....

Oh and one more thing

This pic was from a beautiful sunset on Captiva Island. It was the one and only time I saw the Green Flash happen. I was very happy that day as a lot of folks never see it with their own eyes. It was exhilarating!

Discussion with Vguy

I could be completely wrong but I read the 1st post about WB/Rhino making $2,100,0000 as a slap at them for making a profit on this release as a number of people like to do. As I 1st mentioned that figure was the total gross without taking into account any costs. My 2nd response was to you saying they still made a lot of let's be honest money on this. As I said in the land of the free we can disagree and when on occasion happens here someone opines that too much money is being made whether by the Dead/Rhino or on that fantastic site for collectors ebay the libertarian in me sometimes not all the time feels the need to point out that transactions freely arrived at between 2 parties are what the US is all about.I resist strongly calling a non coercive agreement evil and it's not my right to tell you or anyone what value you should place on your property. I just paid $150 for a near mint German version of Zappa's Freak Out due to my obsession with collecting all versions of Verve Zappa. Was I ripped off? I don't think so though many would think me nuts for paying 20 times the original cost of a used record. I thanked the owner he had what I wanted Freak Out and I had what he wanted ...money.An agreement freely arrived at. If as is possible I misinterpreted your meaning I apologize and leave my comments for those who do believe free transactions are evil Peace

TPTB making $2,100,000....

....I didn't mean to say that they were lining their pockets. What I meant to say was that is a lot of scratch. That's all. Threw in TPTB as an afterthought. Maybe I should have said PITB instead. All good snafu....

Don't cut the banter , usually during equipment difficulty

Listening to Dave's Picks 21 and Winterland November 1973 both have comments from Bobby and Phil about spiders and snakes. Bobby sounds like a freak and Phil like a Mad Scientist haha Also some fun banter / announcement from Phil ~ Dave's Picks 16 that made the cut ~ informing the audience about a smoke fest in April Some of the most interesting banter from a show for me is from 4.3.70 From this new set, most excited to hear the Boston Garden show (song selection is primo) and Buffalo (had got this in the Jeebs Stash and haven't spun this one in a long time) also pumped for another May 77 "Sugaree" and "Scarlet ~> Fire" double dose This set is going to be hot, just as the other May 1977 box set

Playing the download...

Download VLC media player. This media player, plays just about anything, and will certainly play the scarlet>fire digital download mp3 file. For the person who asked for suggestions. Peace.

What a Crazy Day

After scoring a DP 34 for under $40.00 total cost I'm fired up for more '77 when BOOM! comes the email about the box. Damn if I wasn't on line for 7 hours (7 hours 7 minutes?) before getting through. Come this May, it will all be forgotten. Give me more Scarlet-->Fire!

Was just thinking....

Looking at disc two of Buffalo 5/9/77, 3 short songs.....it seems like an opportunity where they should have included the remainder of the Pembroke Pines 5/22/77 songs not included on Dicks Picks Vol. 3. Minus the last three shows of the Palladium run (of the 5 shows between 4/29-5/4/77), the only other shows of the month yet to be officially released by my reckoning are 5/18/77 Atlanta and 5/26/77 Baltimore to complete the entire month of shows (plus the Pembroke Pines outtakes). I imagine between the remainder of unreleased May and April 77 shows, they could easily put out another box or two from this Spring tour. ...ok....back to advocating for more '80's and '90's releases....DaP volumes 23 and/or 24....perhaps recently returned early Brent era Betty Boards...

5/4/77

Hey Spacebro - My guess is that the remaining May 77 shows will come out individually. By my reckoning, 5/4/77 is one of the two shows from 1977 they don't have in the Vault. In the video, Dave mentioned that 6/4/77 is not in the Vault (never will be as it was not recorded on SBD), then he cryptically said there is one more show missing. On the list of Betty Board shows, 5/4/77 is not among them, so my guess is that one won't show up as a release. (And as some of you know, that kills me because, contrary to Dave and most others, I hold the 5/4/77 Comes a Time as the pinnacle of that song). I do see though that shows like 10/2/77 (Casey Jones!!!) and 10/29/77 (makes a case for best of the year) are among the returned Betty's. (If anyone thinks it's a show other than 5/4 that's missing let me know, also sorry if that's been covered below, I have not been able to keep up). Last comment: I think the price is quite fair for this box - the Cornell book sounds like a cool extra, for one thing. But let's face it, if they charged 20 bucks more, most of us still would have bought it.

@SpaceBro

I missed that! What is the haul...? "perhaps recently returned early Brent era Betty Boards..." On the cost of this box, this is the first box I have purchased (there is so much good out there that is shared by really nice folks). I only subcribe to Dave's Picks and I do buy some individual shows, here at dead net, and also Amazon... But in this case, I really didn't think much at all about it, and just went for it! I was lucky, I guess, in that I missed the email, saw it Friday morning and only and a couple hiccups, but not too much of a problem, compared to the horror stories i have perused... I do hope the "book" is published on time, it indicates publication on April 11th, I know from my day job, publication dates are not a always a sure thing... and I don't see a separate ship if the book is delayed... anyway, spring-like weather in the philly burbs this weekend

Re: Cost of Box

I haven't read all the responses, but see that (not surprisingly) the subject of the cost of the box and whether it is "fair" has come up. My impression from what I've read in the past and from Dave's talk is that they had to buy the masters from whomever had them. If that is the case, and especially with all the hype, er interest in, the Cornell show, that price tag, with years of lawyers wrangling, could have been pretty substantial. I'm not sure if that has been mentioned here or even if it's true.

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