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    What's Inside:

    Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
    • 5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
    • 5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
    • 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
    • 5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
    • Sourced from the Betty Boards, transfered by Plangent Processes
    • Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    • Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
    • The unreleased book Cornell ‘77: The Music, The Myth And The Magnificence Of The Grateful Dead’s Concert At Barton Hall by Peter Conners, published by Cornell University Press
    • In-depth essay by noted Dead scholar Nicholas Meriwether
    • Producer's Note by David Lemieux
    • Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
    • Release Date: May 5, 2017

    WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

    NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
    "Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

    BOSTON 5/7/77
    “The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

    CORNELL 5/8/77
    “...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

    “There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

    "This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

    BUFFALO 5/9/77
    "...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

    If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

    Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

    The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Boards were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

    Due May 5th, we anticipate that this revelatory boxed set will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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  • icecrmcnkd
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    At some point in the future...When we will have a Fully Normanized anniversary show almost every day of the year. Is that asking too much? March through May are already stacking up pretty good with Eur '72, May '77, and Spring '90. Guess it's time for that Fall '91 Box. Spun 5-6-81 this past weekend. Dick got it right with that one. Edit: notice that I didn't infringe on the patented 4-dots.... Oh, wait....
  • JimInMD
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    Re: The Jam After Alligator, Just Mind Blowing Stuff..
    Ha.. You had me at Alligator, but created quite the visual with the mind blowing jam beyond. Thanks Sixtus. Oh.. and JeffSmith, the KF May 77 and DSAD lead was not lost on me.. Back when we collectively decided to break into the vault and pull together a gang of thugs to steal back the hostaged Betty Boards.. we were going to release our own shows and buy an Island to live out our days in bliss. If my memory serves, KeithFan was going to be curator of the vault and make the picks. Now that we have all the Betty's.. where did we leave off on that project? There were some real wrenches tossed into the equation I recall.. most notably from jrf who insisted it be an island with world class skiing. That basically leaves New Zealand as the obvious choice. Perhaps a coup would be easier than buying that island outright.. details, oh bother.
  • Sixtus_
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    I'd like to offer to steer any able-and-enthusiastic minds to a particular show I unearthed over the weekend. For some reason I was delving back into 1970. I found the following show, which includes one of the most fantastic jams I have ever heard them pull off, which is probably saying a lot. Have a listen to what happens for pretty much the full-14 minutes of the jam after Alligator. Just totally mind blowing stuff: https://archive.org/details/gd1970-06-06.sbd.miller.86951.sbeok.flac16/… The Dancin' in the Street is very good too, with a bit of a 'tighten up' jam in there. The Lovelight is also quite unique, straying from the main riff for a lot of the jamming (which I haven't heard them do too often). It is a worthy show. For those looking for a slight diversion, I IMPLORE a listen to this one little segment, if nothing else. Sixtus
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    Seems like several incarnations ago we were discussing “Dark-Star-A-Day” and Keithfan was threatening to re-listen to the May ’77 box and everyone was chiming in with their perceptions/conceptions of the cosmos (IceCream’s take rang familiar for me). Then Get Shown the Light dropped and, well, you know . . . glad EVERYBODY can now get all four shows. Since weeks prior to the GSTL tumult, I’ve been chained in the studio seven daze a week, so took Keithfan’s suggestion and have been giving the May ’77 box a thorough, listen. Like Keithfan, it had been a while. The amazing music in that box have me jonesing for GSTL. I hit replay more than a few times when forgotten gems tumbled out during the re-listen. Like the amazing Space out of Uncle John’s Band on 5/7, St. Paul. Or from Terrapin thru the end on 5/12, Chicago. The TOO from Chicago 5/13. Or St. Stephen into Iko in St. Louis on 5/15. And, of course, the Quacking Duck at 1:35 in Fire in Tuscaloosa on 5/17. There’s lots more on these great sounding recordings. But listening to these shows in their entirety took them/me to a level that hugely surpasses a mere sum of their parts. If you haven’t tried May ‘77 recently, now’s a perfect time. Magical May indeed! These brothers and sisters make a perfect appetizer for the Betty Boards in Get Shown the Light. Can’t say enough about this rediscovered treasure, but I’ll leave it to others to (hopefully) add their analysis and commentary. Now maybe I’ll rewind to 1976 and do it all over again. . .
  • JimInMD
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    Where was I? Oh yes.. Listening to music performed 44 years ago (minus a few hours). Not quite as spectacular as the last two releases from this tour.. but who's counting. I love these embryonic versions of Eyes of the World. They must have given some serious thought to the initial arrangement, its nearly flawless and contains perhaps the quintessential GD elastic groove. It has the ability to speed up and slow down time. Anyway, the actions from Truckin' though Stella. 02/21/73 Assembly Hall (University Of Illinois) - Champaign-Urbana, IL Set 1: Wave That Flag Me And My Uncle Brown-Eyed Women Beat It On Down The Line Loser Looks Like Rain Row Jimmy You Ain't Woman Enough Box Of Rain Big Railroad Blues Sugaree Around And Around Set 2: China Cat Sunflower I Know You Rider Jack Straw Mississippi Half-Step Truckin' Eyes Of The World Stella Blue Sugar Magnolia Casey Jones Encore: Johnny B. Goode https://archive.org/details/gd1973-02-21.sbd.miller.111120.flac16/gd73-…
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    I agree, 100%
  • KeithFan2112
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    Are there any great ones? I really only love the Ladies and Gentlemen version. The Bobby throat shredder from 5/15/70 is just okay. The slow one from Rocking The Cradle : Egypt 1978 is interesting. All of the rest sound the same to me, but I'm looking for some magic. P.S. - I'm up to Tuscaloosa, May 1977 (5th Show). Love the Mississippi Half-Step, along with the 5/12 version, and my all time favorite, 5/25. Also looking forward to the Quacking Duck Scarlet / Fire.
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    Limited Box and All Music Edition both good ideas
    I agree, no different then a first edition book vs mass market paperback. I am glad they did it on E72 since i missed the box set, I would love to have the box but the music is nice to have. It also does not diminish the value of the box, also look at E72, they go for 700+ on ebay. I felt the same way when I saw the all music edition released yesterday. Let everyone who wants the physical CDs get them, just no bells and whistles. MP3s are nice to have, that is what I did on spring '90 but i feel CDs/physical media have a more permanent feel to them. Just my thoughts on the matter.
  • alvarhanso
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    Limited Box and All Music Edition both good ideas
    I remember getting the announcement for Europe '72 and for Dave's Picks 1. I got paid and had what I thought was insane amount of money for an insanely brilliant box set of 73 cds! I didn't think it would be sold out in 4 days. I don't think anyone did. Didn't Fillmore West '69 take a fairly long time to sell out of 10,000? Winterland '73 is still available at Mill Valley for the original retail price, brand new, sealed. That's one of the greatest 3 night runs in Dead history, still for sale 9 years later, and it was apparently a large number made, unlimited almost. May '77 took something like 9 months to sell out at 15,000, then who knows how many downloads were sold, which people also complained about. I missed out on Spring '90 which was 9,000. It took a couple months at least to sell out, right? Spring '90 TOO took until last fall to sell out, I grabbed mine when I ordered 30 Trips. July '78 has yet to sell out, and it has rave reviews from those that purchased and post here. They were a first attempt with the Bettys, and they haven't sold out yet, they're for sale on this very page. Should they have expected a quicker than usual sell out? Yes. Could they have had a better ordering process, less stressful? Yes. But 3.5 days on sale and gone. 15,000 units. And so the All Music Edition comes and those that missed out, largely due to the incredibly arduous ordering fiasco have a rightful complaint about not getting the box. They have a rightful gripe. Some that got the box were talking of canceling since they felt screwed by Rhino into getting a limited product, only to find they could have gotten the shows, so why not make more boxes? That's the nature of limited, to make it more sought after. I really want a steamer trunk. I like that they came out with the All Music Edition, but I want that book and other goodies. I'm going to have to one day get one. I think everybody's absolutely correct that an All Music Edition of Fillmore West 69 would be fantastic, and if they let Norman take another crack at those reels going through Plangent, that would be fine, too. I think it's also fair that the prices are the same. The book is available by Cornell University Press for $15 on amazon for preorder, so you can get all of the shows in a physical format with nice artwork. Rhino is doing the right thing here, and an awesome thing in making an unlimited run of these shows together. It turns out whether or not 5/8/77 is considered the greatest show, or whether 5/7 or 5/9 is actually better, they sold out in record time. The Dave's Picks series really ought to sell out at $100 and free shipping, and yet it never has sold out in subscription form, and they haven't raised the number since 2015, so this box selling out in 3.5 days I think has to have shocked them. They made a perfect response to that with the music being made available to all who want to Get Shown the Light. That title grows on me more and more, probably in direct correlation to the repeated listenings of the Scarlet single. This is the run of Grateful Dead you could play to your girlfriend, wife, co-worker, , roommates, in-laws, younger siblings, whoever is able to hear it, and you can say it's the Grateful Dead, and they'll at least somewhat better appreciate the depths of your insanity about this band from the 60s. As much as they were of their time, they were ahead of their time. Sorry for the long post, I read a lot today about the pros and cons of the selling out and the "selling out". Sorry for sounding so ray of sunshiny, but let's enjoy the fact that these tapes that have been the most requested shows for years and decades are being made available to all for a long, long time. This will turn a lot of people on. There's some great, Dead weirdness, but there's just incredibly tight playing and jamming going on through all these nights. I was floored by the Boston Friend of the Devil, which I always used to skip, because I hate slow FotDs (make mine bluegrass), but last night it blew me away, they went powerful instead of plaintive and miserable. Rant finished.
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    is give Jeffrey a chance. I love it! T-Shirt or Bumper Sticker quality.
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What's Inside:

Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
• 5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
• 5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
• 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
• 5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
• Sourced from the Betty Boards, transfered by Plangent Processes
• Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
• Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
• The unreleased book Cornell ‘77: The Music, The Myth And The Magnificence Of The Grateful Dead’s Concert At Barton Hall by Peter Conners, published by Cornell University Press
• In-depth essay by noted Dead scholar Nicholas Meriwether
• Producer's Note by David Lemieux
• Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
• Release Date: May 5, 2017

WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
"Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

BOSTON 5/7/77
“The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

CORNELL 5/8/77
“...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

“There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

"This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

BUFFALO 5/9/77
"...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Boards were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

Due May 5th, we anticipate that this revelatory boxed set will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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I was a high school kid when I scored a copy of Cornell University 77 --thanks to really cool people out there in the tape trading community. I hit my first show in 81 and by then this was already four years old, but old enough for me to really have an appreciation for this particular year. So when this was announced I pounced on it. I got all jammed up in the Barton Hall Website Order Release Debacle of 2017, but luckily was able to get my order through. So I am going to be a happy head in May when this and the Felt Forum show arrive. Oh and I just dug up my original copy of this tape on a TDK SA90. I wish I knew who the original taper is, but let me just send a hearty thank you to all the tapers. You are a wonderful tribe! and you have my undying respect and gratitude.
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I think single 1 show CD release is the best way to go for 80s & 90s. That way Dave's Picks doesn't get watered down with mediocre poor sounding shows like Colorado, but the 80s fans still get their taste. Pretty safe to assume if the DaP series only had 2 shows from the 60s & 70s, it would have died out after season 2. I wouldn't want to see another box set from the 80s or 90s at all (I already spent $750 to get 17 shows that sit on my shelf next to the 13 good ones, with the exception of 1979 and few Feel Like A Strangers). As far as im concerned, Rhino already has my contribution to that period. If it HAS to happen (80s /90s box), I hope it's not until well after the bulk of '71 - '76 is released, as well as 1978 (up though April). Otherwise, it's just wasted time for me. But I doubt we'll see a box set from those years anyway, based on the length of time it took Spring '90 TOO, and Formerly Warlocks to sell out (and perhaps July 1978). Rhinos vault release marketing program is all about the quick flip. Anything that takes more than a year is a brick in the road to no more vault releases, at least on CD.
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I wonder if the Thirty Trips set accelerated the urgency to obtain these Betty reels. While there are certainly some all-time great releases in that box (11/10/67, 2/22/69, 9/24/72, 9/18/74, 9/28/75, 10/27/79, 9/18/87, 9/10/91), there were so many SQ issues (early eighties) or cuts/splices that needed to be corrected (11/14/73, 4/15/70, 5/16/81). Also, some of the years had some puzzling choices that could have been corrected by the presence of the Bettys. I know some may like Cobo '76, but what if 6/11, 6/14, or 6/29 had been there in it's place? 4/25/77 is likewise a great show, but now Swing '77, 10/2 and 10/29 are available! 3/18/71 over Felt, Ann Arbor or Capitol Theater '71? I dunno. 11/14/73 is a candidate for best show in the set, but it contains so many patches, that I wonder if TBTB would have selected 3/16, 3/24, 4/2, 5/26, or 6/22 if they had the option. It's a moot point now, and we can look forward to a stacked Dave's series over the next 5 years, in addition to a Berkeley '72 and Capitol '71 box.
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I'm with you on the boxes. Now that they're available, Berkeley '72, Boston '76, and Winterland '77 should take precedence before anything else (except Ark '69).
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I've read a few comments about frantic fans having trouble buying the Cornell show. I know the web site had its customary issues when they announced these releases (have they EVER handled volume well????), but I was under the impression that Cornell would always be available individually and just the box and the vinyl were limited. True?
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I hope the start of the Cornell show on the CDs includes the missing start. That's they way that show has always started and always will start. Just sayin.
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After that proverbial turd in the punch-bowl thursday,i pre-ordered from that place named after a famous river.I can only be so loyal.Thanx to everyone that helped me with the down-load yesterday.Don't forget it's yoko ono's birthday today.Happy Listening!
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Yeah, good point Mr. Jack Straw, about the Bettys. Did they ever say how many shows were recovered? I'm with you guys on the box sets - it's not so much that I care if they release 80s, I just don't want it to be at the expense of having to wait for the good stuff, like the '76 tapes, Port Chester, Fillmore East, Summer / Fall '72, mid-1973, Winterland '74, etc. But I don't believe Rhino is about to go experimenting at this point. I think they released the runs of 80s / 90s shows they thought were marketable, and are focused on the best stuff left in the Vault now. If there were to be a later era box, I think the Vince years are preferable, with no MIDI, if that was even going on during his tenure. I just dig his keyboard style more, and I'm back into enjoying the harmony vocals again. Syracuse 78 - lol, you said it man, exactly what I was thinking when I had my own ordering issues - when have they ever handled volume well. And part of it, no doubt, is what someone else mentioned already - the problem was exacerbated by all of the double / triple / quadruple clicking. Well at least it was cleared up and everyone who wants one can get one.
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I'd mentioned that I began listening to this last week in order. I've had a difficult time getting long sessions in with it, but I have been listening to it and I'm up to Chicago night two. I've always liked this Scarlet Begonias / Fire On The Mountain, despite two flaws that only a Deadhead would pick up on: the short performance of Scarlet, and a conspicuous transition into Fire On The Mountain. Otherwise, it's top 5 material in my head. Jerry's guitar is super-prominent, like DP 29, Billy is a driving force that rocks up the tempo (I believe it's Billy), and Donna puts forth some of her best kitty-cat cooing on record - so beautiful. Vocals are perfect, thanks Jerry, guitar soloing is inventive and melodic, piano is piano-ing just right (and of note is the fact that we're hitting that spot in May where Keith stops with the Polymoog). It's in the band's legendary history that he didn't like playing it, and I agree - piano better.
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Was listening to the digital single at work a few times yesterday, and it brought smiles to my face for 25 minutes at a time. The only sad part is now having to wait to listen to the rest. I cannot wait to be siting there reading the Cornell book as New Haven, Boston, Cornell, and Buffalo are screaming out of my speakers. If Dave's 23 is an 80s show, that's cool. If 24 is another one, cool beans, just make sure Althea is on at least one, and Foolish Heart and Blow Away make one, too. The riches we're going to be receiving for years to come will definitely be worth it. Though considering I'm thinking about adding the vinyl as well, I'm not sure my bank account is as happy as I am...
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Well, now I just need to stay alive for the next,how did Dave put it?-5/10/20 years!!!! Ha, bloody, Ha. Need to move those Betty boards a bit faster before us older Deadheads just up and become members of The Grateful Dead ourselves. Just saying.P.s the Berkeley Theater 1972 box set- Can I pre-order it now? I'm getting too old for another Thursday debacle. I live in the UK and ended up getting up at 5am Friday(our time) to try and complete the bloody order. Now that Warner Elektra are taking my money, you'd a thought a big company like that would have been able to handle the release. Also, why limit the box set to 15,000? I'm certain you could easily sell 50,000 around the world.
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hey Mr7171551, I hear ya about getting older. If they release these for 20 years (I sure hope physical media will still be around that long), I'll be 67 when they're done. And then lots to listen to in retirement :) As for why only 15,000 copies - my 2 cents is that it makes perfect sense. It's fairly hardcore Deadheads who want the other three shows in the box, even though I think most of us agree they're all on par with Cornell (and my favorite of all four shows is actually 5/9/77 not least because of that Help>Slip>Franklin's). Anyway, the 50,000 worldwide will be true for Cornell because, right or wrong, even casual fans, not to mention fans of "jambands" - have heard of Cornell. Not so much New Haven, alas. Having said that, I surely was alarmed that the box could sell out before I got my order past the electronic bugbears. PS - Keithfan, I like "May 1977 TOO (The Old One)" - nice.
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for some years they went with the A plus banger, for others they went with B+ bangers, there was a strategy with all factors considered. Song selection was a major, as well as performance. SQ took third. And taking into account what they wanted to do with other series/box sets was major in selection process. One example is 1977, 4.25.77 or 5.26.77 ? could have went with either, but I was always under the impression 5.26.77 will be selected as a stand alone release. Both excellent shows but is either A+ ? Example from 1967, 11.10.67 or 10.22.67 ? both killer but i am under the impression the 10.22.67 will be released as studio remaster bonus disc, similar to new ly released 7.29.66 with GD debut album. Its only one disc compared to the two from 11.10.67. No doubt that 11.10.67 is one of the finest to be ever released and near the top of 30 trips selections with all factors considered for 70's shows they could have filled the set with all A+ bangers and used some of these betty boards. I am pretty sure they have had access to these for a good amount of time, like before even before May 2015. I also mentioned recently that the 2016 Dave's Picks selections could have been in the 30 trips - 1974, 1976, 1970, 1981 other selection factor, some shows build off each other because of song selection. "Viola Lee Blues" is the first example 1966-67, but it really picks up in the 80's some of these similarities were stand out moments from each show, but its really all good to me 80-81 "Feel Like A Stranger" 81-82 "Truckin" 82-83 "Scarlet Fire" "UJB" 83-84 "Playin"->"UJB" 84-85 Couldnt really find much similarity with the shows 85-86 "They Love Each Other" 86-87 "They Love Each Other" "Man Smart Woman Smarter" 87-88 "Hell in a Bucket"-> "Sugaree" "Walkin Blues" "Bird Song" "Goin' Down the Road Feeling Bad" to be fair a lot of the shows from the 70's had just as many SQ issues as 80's , the big difference and reason 70s era does not stick out like sore thumb in some of the cases is the method and materials to how they were recorded. I said at the time if some of these were stand alone releases no matter which year or era, some fans would be complaining, because they have cuts, patches, dropouts, but since it was lumped together its almost an afterthought for some shows. But the 80s shows took a lot of the hits , as usual also some of these shows would not have been released in my opinion without this 30 show set. And I am not strictly talking about 80s / 90s either way Rhinos keep the Grateful Dead releases coming, I can find something to like from any show
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Vault lacks 2 shows from 1977 , 6.4.77 and ? I think its the night after Swing Auditorium , in Santa Barbara , 2.27.77 ?
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Has anyone here done A/B tests of Dead HDCDs between decks that decode HDCD and decks that just play them as CDs? I'm pretty happy playing Dead HDCDs on a Onkyo C-7030 deck, but it doesn't claim to know anything about HDCD decoding. The decks that do claim to do HDCD, by the likes of Oppo and Emotiva, are priced at $500 and up. From reading up on it, HDCD provides a menu of options for the sound engineer, not all of which are always used. Seems like the main loss in playing them as CDs would be in flattened peaks. And that they should have increased resolution in quieter passages no matter what they're played on. The Dead have a lot of quieter passages, and they do sound good on my current system. On the loud passages, am I missing something? I generally hate the compression of, say FM radio, but I'm not feeling like the reported compression artifact of playing HDCD as CD is in that range of obvious annoyance. Still, would the sound just open up in an obvious way with the right deck?
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mbarilla, ah, maybe it is 2/27 and not 5/4 as I feared (as the other missing show). In addition to the exciting Dead release possibilities this opens (the BCT 72 run!, Swing!, 10/29/77!) and on and on, does anyone know if the returned Betty's include non-Dead stuff? There's some mouthwatering JG shows with Nicky Hopkins that would be sweet. And some really odd stuff which I'd love to hear - this one jumped out at me: Jefferson Starship 11.24.74 Winterland, whole show (with entire Blows Against the Empire suite) Hell yeah to that one...
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I suppose it's too much to ask for you to make the Scarlet>Fire one big file so when it comes up on my bar's jukebox it will play without interruption?
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I'm ecstatic about the early May 77 box set and placed my order before they broke the internet the other day, but what I really yearn for these days are more releases with Brent and Jerry with his newly defined sound in the early 90s. I hope Dave finds a nice gem to release for DP 24 or beyond.
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Finally listened to the scarlet>fire download that came with the purchase. It sounds amazing and i'm so excited for the full release. One very pleasant surprise...on the tape i had all these years, there is a woman in the crowd who quickly screams for a sec just as Jerry finishes the line: As i picked up my matches, and was closing the door (1:41 mark). I'm happy to say that this mystery woman's scream of delight was not cleaned up or edited out of the official release. It's the little things...
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....there's a reason Bobby kept commenting "We need to get everything exactly perfect" so much in 1977, because they were. How awesome would it have been if he brought that back during the Spring 1990 tour, because that one is pretty perfect too. Spinning 4.2.90 Omni now. I mean, who can say no to a Stranger, Half Step, The Weight to open the show. Not me bub....
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I can't wait to get this release. My wife can't wait for me to shut up about this release.
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This box will cost me $14.06 per disc. $139.98 unit price. Shipping charge of $5.99 + my state's sales tax of 6% or $8.76 = $14.75 Total of $154.73 Disc 2 of the Buffalo show is sort of short-changing us, but still it's a good deal as I see it.
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Since these recordings are from cassettes, is there an advantage to the FLAC versions? I have heard the UNBELIEVABLE quality difference between the 90's FLAC and CD versions-the AB test of same recordings side by side leaves no doubt that FLAC is the way to go with multi track digital recordings. I am curious as to audio difference with cassette source material between the CDs and a FLAC version. Digital storage being as easy as it is these days, I wonder why we even use physical discs? Also, I am curious as to what Mr Lemuiex says about the so-called matrix recordings-board and audience recordings mixed together. One thing we are trying to do is to go back to those same venues and recreate the sonic experience right? Will we see any official matrix type releases?
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first verse:Can you put some more 80s in the release plans? chorus: No no no no! We want all 70s until there are no more! second verse: same as the first second chorus: No no no no! what WE want has to be finished first! bridge: release all the 70s first because we're gonna die soon! over fade-out: but we are gonna die soon too...
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that was f'in hilarious, thanx SH...how true & too funny... and the Maestro Charlie Miller said yesterday 5/4/77 was in the vault... sup mbarilla... i see u, holmes... hope alls well... ♤
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New Haven 77', first show would have loved to seen the weekend shows, don't even think we knew about them at the time. Did manage to make it back to VT and School the next day, Physics was a total trip. I did get to see one of the last shows of May as well, Hartford. Good job Rob in getting these back to the Vault.
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Hey Napadeadhead, DaP8 11/30/80 Atlanta is a matrix mix. With a good set up of speakers in all four corners of my room I can melt away at different venues when I close my eyes to a matrix mix. I used to be obsessed with them. Until my ears got whiff of high res / FLACs. I ordered the 2nd spring box, but after I downloaded the FLAC, I never opened that box. Bolt or box? Had to go with the bolt. TPTB said there would be a digital download available the day that the 78 box gets released....but didn't mention what resolution the download would be. I was tickled to death when I saw it was high res, but that only means that the 78cd box I ordered is still in it's packings. Oh, what a great time to be a head. Can't wait for the Cornell vinyl and a high res download. Cheers!
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Hey there rockers!!!! Well, it's seems the voluminous, glaring/blaring white noise chatter about the release of some possibly overrated mid 70s shows has awakened me from my hibernation........... Good thing, too, since it IS February 18. For those of you who want some Bakersfield with your Berthas, whose guilty pleasures are Bobby's Cowboy country & western tunes, for those who savor the newly minted Hunter/Garcia tunes in their original mid-tempo forms, consider this historic, ground-breaking, mind-boggling run: https://archive.org/details/gd1971-02-18.sbd.miller.111793.flac16/gd71-… http://www.dead.net/features/release-info/finally-three-vault-2-19-71-c… https://archive.org/details/gd1971-02-20.sbd.miller.116617.flac16/gd71-… https://archive.org/details/gd1971-02-21.sbd.miller.116618.flac16/gd71-… https://archive.org/details/gd1971-02-23.sbd.miller.110353.flac16/gd71-… https://archive.org/details/gd1971-02-24.121065.sbd.miller.digitalrbb.f… Clearly an historic run. Prior to the Bettys we had only been exposed to really bad audience recordings of these shows. When we got our copies of the Bettys, it was like dropping acid for the second time. Very very enlightening.......... All are super fine. Many prefer 2/18, although I think it's a little overrated. Wasn't too happy when 2/19 was released, but after repeated serious listenings I had my breakthrough and understood why. 2/20 is very fine and underrated, 2/21 has no big jams but has some really sweet playing, 2/23 is the elephant in the room, by 2/24 they're maybe a bit tired but it's all good. April may be the chocolate, but Port Chester is way buttery.......... In fact, the release of the Bettys was a real windfall for 1971 freaks----it included the entire Port Chester run, two of the Manhattan Center shows, both April Boston shows, and 12/14/71--one of the least talked about classic late 1971 shows. Thank you Betty! Back to hibernation. If anybody needs/wants the Port Chesters, you know where to find me........ Rock on rockers! Doc
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I had a second listen to DaP 18 over the last few nights. It kinda grows on me. Lots of slower versions of songs. When I saw them several nights during this run, one big impression I had was "They are so low key. What happened to the band I saw before the break?" I think Suguree on is excellent playing, and the second set Comes a Time medley is pretty killer, if you get used to the mellow groove. the filler from 7/16 is excellent too, especially the Music Never> Scarlet. I think they were finding their way after time off, and figuring out how to integrate Micky back into the band. Honestly, this is a very different band than most releases, IMHO. I was still in a '76 mood after that, so I put on diP18. Quite a difference a couple months makes! this band is much more centered and assertive. I love that "Orange Tango Jam" they leap into without warning out of the Eyes jam. Did they play that Tango thing very much? Other recent spins: Pure Jerry 1 9/1&2/89 Excellent two shows with different set lists. TTATS 82 and 85 Thanks for the recommendations! DiP18 when I got in a '78 mood I am so psyched for this new box!
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These tape, Betty Boards were all 2 Track Reel to Reel
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But of course. If their Betty's of course they're 2 tracks. I had the same question but forgot the caveat.Either way, she captured an amazing sound, so I'll be glad to listen to all 4 shows.
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But of course. If their Betty's of course they're 2 tracks. I had the same question but forgot the caveat.Either way, she captured an amazing sound, so I'll be glad to listen to all 4 shows.
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I was so glad Dave released the May '77 set a few years ago because I was at the 5/13/77 show at the Auditorium Theatre, Chicago - 5 days after the infamous Cornell show. It is still my favorite show out of all the times and years that I saw the Dead. So glad to get some more from the previous shows, it will be a nice addition to the 1st set, and I love the double stealies lol. Betty Boards are awesome as evident by the July '78 renderings last year and of course all the years of actually trading and listening to them so many moons ago. This is so great. Love the Dave's Pick's series and can't wait for this set. Helps us keep Truckin' every day! By the way, someone was asking about HDCD and if it's worth it or not. Believe it or not, Windows Media Player decodes HDCD because Microsoft bought the technology. So make as good a connection as you can from your computer to your audio system and you might be able to compare the results from your current CD player. Hope that helps. Be Kind
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Bring it on with 6.19.76 smokin stuff in both sets 1976 !!!!!!!!!!!!! After I finish up this Winterland 1973 trip I got Dave's Picks 4 on deck
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Also on the first night of this as well
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Despite my stance on the Eras Conflict, I would love the next 3 boxes to be Cap Theatre 71, BCT 72, and Boston & NYC 76, with 5/26/73 (a 4disc show) getting a stand-alone release in 2017 or 2018, and 2/26/77, 11/6/77, and 4/22/79 appearing in the Dave's series before 2020. And that is just the Betty's I am familiar enough with to know I love them. ForensicDoc: you're description of '71 Dead's good points was perfect!
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God bless Betty and the other powers that brought this box and will bring other boxes to fruition!
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I'm planning on FTV3 for a Sunday breaky jam.......This announcement has got me craving All Dead All the Time.....
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....is the wife's favorite, so I usually tag along. Took some coaxing from her, but she relinquished. She didn't mention the year, just commented that she enjoys the bands "slow phase, with Donna in tune." That's '76 in a nutshell. Good enough for me.....hello theeamazingace, good to hear your still bustling around....
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I agree DaP 18 is one of the best imo. I'd like to see some more 76 releases, 6/3, 6/14,or 8/4 would be awesome DaPs. I also enjoy 9/24 and 27, so it's great to hear some 76 shows were returned also.
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I'm a big fan of DaP 18. My favorite part is that Playing in the Band sequence on the Bonus Disc. The Peggy-O's are great too.. I can find something I like in most shows from any year, although like most of us I do have my favorites. I like to listen to strings of shows in sequence when I can. Entire tours or entire years. You can hear the evolution and the band learning / growing. When you look at it that way.. 77 doesn't make sense without the 76 lead in. The beginning of the Travis Bean clean sound... I never understood 76 bashing, it makes perfect sense to me.
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Go flub yourself, cmovieboxapp. We don't appreciate your dirty links.
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The 4-night Auditorium Theater in Chicago from 6/26 thru 6/29 would make a nice Betty Boards boxset. The Wheel from 6/29 is on So Many Roads and High Time from 6/28 is on the Download Series 4.
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I am looking for a copy of 7/1/78 disc 1 and 3/14/90 disc 1. If you can help, please contact me. Can send blank CDs or other music, GD or not. Wear has made them useless. Many Thanks.
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manager and part-owner of the Chelsea Hotel. Thank you for recognizing a beautiful, talented, artistic woman and granting her one of your coveted, permanent residence spots in the hotel 25+ years ago...a woman who would later become my wife. Of course, I was only 2 blocks away at the time (and that's where we are still), but who knew then? Listening to Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, and the GOGD, in memory tonight. RIP, Stanley.
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I was there for the last two shows, 6/23 & 6/24 I loved 'em. I had auds of the 1st 3 shows and an FM of the 24th.I think this Tower run, 6/21-24/76 would make a good box. Just my 2 cents.
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Jim,I never understood it either. 6/23 & 6/24 Tower show were my up close intros to the Grateful Dead, where I really could see their faces and what they were wearing and how they were playing. 6th row, center.
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