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    What's Inside:

    Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
    • 5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
    • 5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
    • 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
    • 5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
    • Sourced from the Betty Boards, transfered by Plangent Processes
    • Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    • Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
    • The unreleased book Cornell ‘77: The Music, The Myth And The Magnificence Of The Grateful Dead’s Concert At Barton Hall by Peter Conners, published by Cornell University Press
    • In-depth essay by noted Dead scholar Nicholas Meriwether
    • Producer's Note by David Lemieux
    • Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
    • Release Date: May 5, 2017

    WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

    NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
    "Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

    BOSTON 5/7/77
    “The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

    CORNELL 5/8/77
    “...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

    “There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

    "This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

    BUFFALO 5/9/77
    "...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

    If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

    Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

    The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Boards were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

    Due May 5th, we anticipate that this revelatory boxed set will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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  • icecrmcnkd
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    At some point in the future...When we will have a Fully Normanized anniversary show almost every day of the year. Is that asking too much? March through May are already stacking up pretty good with Eur '72, May '77, and Spring '90. Guess it's time for that Fall '91 Box. Spun 5-6-81 this past weekend. Dick got it right with that one. Edit: notice that I didn't infringe on the patented 4-dots.... Oh, wait....
  • JimInMD
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    Re: The Jam After Alligator, Just Mind Blowing Stuff..
    Ha.. You had me at Alligator, but created quite the visual with the mind blowing jam beyond. Thanks Sixtus. Oh.. and JeffSmith, the KF May 77 and DSAD lead was not lost on me.. Back when we collectively decided to break into the vault and pull together a gang of thugs to steal back the hostaged Betty Boards.. we were going to release our own shows and buy an Island to live out our days in bliss. If my memory serves, KeithFan was going to be curator of the vault and make the picks. Now that we have all the Betty's.. where did we leave off on that project? There were some real wrenches tossed into the equation I recall.. most notably from jrf who insisted it be an island with world class skiing. That basically leaves New Zealand as the obvious choice. Perhaps a coup would be easier than buying that island outright.. details, oh bother.
  • Sixtus_
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    I'd like to offer to steer any able-and-enthusiastic minds to a particular show I unearthed over the weekend. For some reason I was delving back into 1970. I found the following show, which includes one of the most fantastic jams I have ever heard them pull off, which is probably saying a lot. Have a listen to what happens for pretty much the full-14 minutes of the jam after Alligator. Just totally mind blowing stuff: https://archive.org/details/gd1970-06-06.sbd.miller.86951.sbeok.flac16/… The Dancin' in the Street is very good too, with a bit of a 'tighten up' jam in there. The Lovelight is also quite unique, straying from the main riff for a lot of the jamming (which I haven't heard them do too often). It is a worthy show. For those looking for a slight diversion, I IMPLORE a listen to this one little segment, if nothing else. Sixtus
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    Seems like several incarnations ago we were discussing “Dark-Star-A-Day” and Keithfan was threatening to re-listen to the May ’77 box and everyone was chiming in with their perceptions/conceptions of the cosmos (IceCream’s take rang familiar for me). Then Get Shown the Light dropped and, well, you know . . . glad EVERYBODY can now get all four shows. Since weeks prior to the GSTL tumult, I’ve been chained in the studio seven daze a week, so took Keithfan’s suggestion and have been giving the May ’77 box a thorough, listen. Like Keithfan, it had been a while. The amazing music in that box have me jonesing for GSTL. I hit replay more than a few times when forgotten gems tumbled out during the re-listen. Like the amazing Space out of Uncle John’s Band on 5/7, St. Paul. Or from Terrapin thru the end on 5/12, Chicago. The TOO from Chicago 5/13. Or St. Stephen into Iko in St. Louis on 5/15. And, of course, the Quacking Duck at 1:35 in Fire in Tuscaloosa on 5/17. There’s lots more on these great sounding recordings. But listening to these shows in their entirety took them/me to a level that hugely surpasses a mere sum of their parts. If you haven’t tried May ‘77 recently, now’s a perfect time. Magical May indeed! These brothers and sisters make a perfect appetizer for the Betty Boards in Get Shown the Light. Can’t say enough about this rediscovered treasure, but I’ll leave it to others to (hopefully) add their analysis and commentary. Now maybe I’ll rewind to 1976 and do it all over again. . .
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    Where was I? Oh yes.. Listening to music performed 44 years ago (minus a few hours). Not quite as spectacular as the last two releases from this tour.. but who's counting. I love these embryonic versions of Eyes of the World. They must have given some serious thought to the initial arrangement, its nearly flawless and contains perhaps the quintessential GD elastic groove. It has the ability to speed up and slow down time. Anyway, the actions from Truckin' though Stella. 02/21/73 Assembly Hall (University Of Illinois) - Champaign-Urbana, IL Set 1: Wave That Flag Me And My Uncle Brown-Eyed Women Beat It On Down The Line Loser Looks Like Rain Row Jimmy You Ain't Woman Enough Box Of Rain Big Railroad Blues Sugaree Around And Around Set 2: China Cat Sunflower I Know You Rider Jack Straw Mississippi Half-Step Truckin' Eyes Of The World Stella Blue Sugar Magnolia Casey Jones Encore: Johnny B. Goode https://archive.org/details/gd1973-02-21.sbd.miller.111120.flac16/gd73-…
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    I agree, 100%
  • KeithFan2112
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    Are there any great ones? I really only love the Ladies and Gentlemen version. The Bobby throat shredder from 5/15/70 is just okay. The slow one from Rocking The Cradle : Egypt 1978 is interesting. All of the rest sound the same to me, but I'm looking for some magic. P.S. - I'm up to Tuscaloosa, May 1977 (5th Show). Love the Mississippi Half-Step, along with the 5/12 version, and my all time favorite, 5/25. Also looking forward to the Quacking Duck Scarlet / Fire.
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    Limited Box and All Music Edition both good ideas
    I agree, no different then a first edition book vs mass market paperback. I am glad they did it on E72 since i missed the box set, I would love to have the box but the music is nice to have. It also does not diminish the value of the box, also look at E72, they go for 700+ on ebay. I felt the same way when I saw the all music edition released yesterday. Let everyone who wants the physical CDs get them, just no bells and whistles. MP3s are nice to have, that is what I did on spring '90 but i feel CDs/physical media have a more permanent feel to them. Just my thoughts on the matter.
  • alvarhanso
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    Limited Box and All Music Edition both good ideas
    I remember getting the announcement for Europe '72 and for Dave's Picks 1. I got paid and had what I thought was insane amount of money for an insanely brilliant box set of 73 cds! I didn't think it would be sold out in 4 days. I don't think anyone did. Didn't Fillmore West '69 take a fairly long time to sell out of 10,000? Winterland '73 is still available at Mill Valley for the original retail price, brand new, sealed. That's one of the greatest 3 night runs in Dead history, still for sale 9 years later, and it was apparently a large number made, unlimited almost. May '77 took something like 9 months to sell out at 15,000, then who knows how many downloads were sold, which people also complained about. I missed out on Spring '90 which was 9,000. It took a couple months at least to sell out, right? Spring '90 TOO took until last fall to sell out, I grabbed mine when I ordered 30 Trips. July '78 has yet to sell out, and it has rave reviews from those that purchased and post here. They were a first attempt with the Bettys, and they haven't sold out yet, they're for sale on this very page. Should they have expected a quicker than usual sell out? Yes. Could they have had a better ordering process, less stressful? Yes. But 3.5 days on sale and gone. 15,000 units. And so the All Music Edition comes and those that missed out, largely due to the incredibly arduous ordering fiasco have a rightful complaint about not getting the box. They have a rightful gripe. Some that got the box were talking of canceling since they felt screwed by Rhino into getting a limited product, only to find they could have gotten the shows, so why not make more boxes? That's the nature of limited, to make it more sought after. I really want a steamer trunk. I like that they came out with the All Music Edition, but I want that book and other goodies. I'm going to have to one day get one. I think everybody's absolutely correct that an All Music Edition of Fillmore West 69 would be fantastic, and if they let Norman take another crack at those reels going through Plangent, that would be fine, too. I think it's also fair that the prices are the same. The book is available by Cornell University Press for $15 on amazon for preorder, so you can get all of the shows in a physical format with nice artwork. Rhino is doing the right thing here, and an awesome thing in making an unlimited run of these shows together. It turns out whether or not 5/8/77 is considered the greatest show, or whether 5/7 or 5/9 is actually better, they sold out in record time. The Dave's Picks series really ought to sell out at $100 and free shipping, and yet it never has sold out in subscription form, and they haven't raised the number since 2015, so this box selling out in 3.5 days I think has to have shocked them. They made a perfect response to that with the music being made available to all who want to Get Shown the Light. That title grows on me more and more, probably in direct correlation to the repeated listenings of the Scarlet single. This is the run of Grateful Dead you could play to your girlfriend, wife, co-worker, , roommates, in-laws, younger siblings, whoever is able to hear it, and you can say it's the Grateful Dead, and they'll at least somewhat better appreciate the depths of your insanity about this band from the 60s. As much as they were of their time, they were ahead of their time. Sorry for the long post, I read a lot today about the pros and cons of the selling out and the "selling out". Sorry for sounding so ray of sunshiny, but let's enjoy the fact that these tapes that have been the most requested shows for years and decades are being made available to all for a long, long time. This will turn a lot of people on. There's some great, Dead weirdness, but there's just incredibly tight playing and jamming going on through all these nights. I was floored by the Boston Friend of the Devil, which I always used to skip, because I hate slow FotDs (make mine bluegrass), but last night it blew me away, they went powerful instead of plaintive and miserable. Rant finished.
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    is give Jeffrey a chance. I love it! T-Shirt or Bumper Sticker quality.
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CLICK HERE FOR THE
ALL MUSIC EDITION

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What's Inside:

Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
• 5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
• 5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
• 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
• 5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
• Sourced from the Betty Boards, transfered by Plangent Processes
• Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
• Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
• The unreleased book Cornell ‘77: The Music, The Myth And The Magnificence Of The Grateful Dead’s Concert At Barton Hall by Peter Conners, published by Cornell University Press
• In-depth essay by noted Dead scholar Nicholas Meriwether
• Producer's Note by David Lemieux
• Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000
• Release Date: May 5, 2017

WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
"Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

BOSTON 5/7/77
“The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

CORNELL 5/8/77
“...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

“There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

"This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

BUFFALO 5/9/77
"...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

Limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies, MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Boards were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

Due May 5th, we anticipate that this revelatory boxed set will sell out. Your best bet is to pre-order it now, then sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day.

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I know it's off topic but if there are any Son Volt fans out there...New album that just dropped on Friday is Awesome.
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I like Son Volt thanks for the heads up, one of my favorite songs:Tear Stained Eye
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Great run of shows in 76 The Beacon and Capital theatre run is great with the best Mission in the rain on the 18th would make an awesome box set
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So I saw the opera "Salome" last night in Los Angeles. It was my first time seeing it and I loved it. Salome is one of the first operas I listened to when I first started listening to opera some 30 years ago. This was the first chance I've had to see it live. Its about 90 minutes and there's not a dull moment. A pretty lurid story. It's got nearly everything: lust (check), jealousy(check), religion (check), incest (check), necrophilia (check). The final scene is chilling. This production had full nudity for Salome's dance of the seven veils. Sweet! The audience gasped at the nudity. Come on folks, it's 2017, not 1917. As for the upcoming box, I'm really excited. I'm one of the lucky few Deadheads who has never really heard 5/8/77 or any of the other shows. Sure, I've had a great copy of 5/8/77 for more than 30 years, but I never really listened to it. Maybe I listened to Scarlet Fire a couple of times only to decide "phooey- it's overrated". I'm looking forward to a deep dive into these shows! The "Morning Dew" seems to rank up there with the Europe 72 versions- something I never thought possible for anything post-hiatus. Great to have FloridaBob back with his old avatar! Dantian too!
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stand alone release also, but who on earth came up with that ? 20.000 blu-ray set and 20.000 dvd set of the fare thee well. the second the FTW show ended both sound and audio was online being shared like crazy. even during the show it was. phish heads arent buying that. they got it for free bump up the LIMITED EDITION units for these CLASSIC GRATEFUL DEAD releases Rhinos. anybody have info for 1969 performance Feb 19, 1969 from San Francisco ?
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If by February 19th, 1969 you mean the tape the circulates as 06/16/1968 that is supposedly misdated, the real date 2/19/69.. I have it and have listened to it. Its interesting. I'd have to fire up the lawn mower to settle the misdating issue though, and would you believe it.. the Psilocy-flux Capacitor is malfunctioning. Some Phish fan tried to run it on dried chanterelle dust :D
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Gollum, Excuse my English, I'm French. I heard hundreds of times the concert of May 8, 1977. Scarlet> Fire that you found "overrated" is certainly the version I prefer. The jam starts very, very gently. You have to listen. In fact, one must really make the effort to listen, otherwise it seems to be the inconsistent work of an orchestra under Valium. It's quite the opposite ! It is a musical lace of extreme delicacy. It is both light as air and deep as the whole history of music. In a state of grace, each member of the Grateful Dead unfolds a thread, and the group weaves a multicolored, magical fabric. Without hurrying, each turn, each musician will gradually transform the design of the stuff, and suddenly the listener realizes that he is elsewhere - yes but since when? It was so subtle, we did not see anything coming ... And before and after the jam, everything is so well played, everything is so well built. One feels such a presence among musicians that night, throughout the concert, with rare prowess and summits! And I who loves above all the European tour of 1972, the version of Morning Dew of this May 8, 1977 is the most beautiful I know.
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It think it was KGB operatives posing as a Phish heads.Because all Phish heads are just posers anyway, right? Hah, funny. This shit just writes itself. :) No offense, Senator. We thank you for your service.
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It happened the same day as the Bolo abduction, but there's no reason to think the two incidents are related.
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I will blow this quote.. but I think its in McNally's book. That of David Crosby who referred to Grateful Dead improvisation as mid-air, real time sculptures. Works of art. As for Cornell being over-rated? There's so much hype around the show its hard to say it is not deserved. I always interpreted comments of hype vs. hyperbole to mean not that Cornell is over-rated, but more this is what they did night after night.. Perhaps there are many shows that are as good as Cornell. In other words, the hype, legend and lore is deserved.. its a great show, but there are a lot of great shows and arguably many that are as good, perhaps better. Fair statement? Anyway.. great post, I had to chime in and support it. That Scarlet Fire is one of the great ones.. and I've never met a Morning Dew I did not like. If anyone out there has not heard Bonnie Dobson's original, its worth knowing at least where this song originally came from.
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It's on the pedestal where it belongs.But it's a big pedestal and there is room for other shows too. Like many people posted a few weeks back, it was the best sounding cassette tape in the collection and the show was smokin'! Eventually other good sounding cassettes came along, and eventually I was getting metal cassettes that were 1st or 2nd gen from DAT, but some were shows where the band sounded like an orchestra on Valium (great analogy Alain). I'm ready for this Box.....but May 5 is a long way away. Heinz ketchup song: "anticipation, it's making me wait" Deadbase 50: I thought it was sold out but it's on this site for $89.99.
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I totally agree with you, JimInMD. Many Dead concerts are "the best". Cornell is one of those (and not the least). When I listen on December 31, 1972, it is the best concert I know. When I listen on August 27, 1972, May 19, 1974, or the first concert I attended (May 4, 1972), it is always the best concert. And there are so many others ... Thank you for the original Morning Dew!
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Excluding the initial ordering fiasco, this is the first REALLY GOOD NEWS of 2017! Many thanks to everyone involved in the process, and I look forward to TAKIN' A STEP BACK come May!
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Bertha from Buffalo gets a lot of attention on Heady Version. Never heard it. Like Gollum, I've had these dhows, but don't lite to them. I did check out Scarlet / Fire, and it sounded hot, no doubt; I just didn't find it to be leaps and bounds above others - bu that could change once I hear the Full Norman a binch of times. There was also a time when I listened to the 3 Morning Dews from Spring '77 in order a few times (5/8, 5/22, and 6/7). They were all great, I recall, and I believe the closing flutter of guitar strumming went on a bit longer at Cornell; however I don't remember feeling like it was that much better than the other two. But that being said, I've still yet to give Cornell an extended study, and I know shows grow on us with repeated listening. I'm hoping that Cornell ends up having the best version of every song played there, by the time I'm into it full boar. Will Brown-Eyed Women really top DP 29, DaP 1, and DaP 12? Tall order, but I'm hoping. Will I find something exceptional about Estimated Prophet that holds a candle to the 1978 versions, which IMHO are much better on a good night than their '77 counterparts. Will I enjoy St. Stephen? I've never really enjoyed the post-hiatus versions as much as '69-'71. They're mostly throwaways in my mind, neither transformative nor exciting. If I listen to the Ladies and Gentlemen's version side by side with any other post-hiatus vesion, I'm always floored by '71, and bored by post-hiatus...but I'm hopeful for Cornell. I have a feeling the magic will be similar to DaP 1, which is how 5/5 was described: sum is better than the parts of the whole. Not sure if my comments came off as critical of Cornell, but if so, what I'm really trying to say is that I sm really looking forward to it, and that hope it delivers in spades! I'm really looking foreward to Buffalo. Help / Slip! / Franklin is such a kick-ass opener, and the rest of the 1St set is full of my songs. The 2ND set Cones A Time im interested in, and even the Sugar Mag / UJB is supposedly much better than other '77 renditions. I think I'm going to enjoy Boston a whole lot too (I hear the Mississippi Half-Step is one of the all time best, and I think we get a rare '77 Wheel, which is one of my favorite post-hiatus performed tunes). Jimbo - I also love DaP 18. It truly realizes the full potential of that year. I would say it's in my top 5 Dave's Picks. I find the shows hit or miss in '76. I felt 30 Trips missed, for me at least. Very flat sound and I guess flat performnce up until end of disc 2 / and parts of disc 3, where I recall some cool jamming.
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....all Phish heads are posers? Lol. Some maybe, but not this guy. Slept in this morning. Going to see Ween tonight at the Brooklyn Bowl. Had to rest up. Big fan of Gene and Dean and I have never seen them. That ends tonight....
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I love the fact you're in Paris digging the Dead.I wish I was watching the old guys play boules in the Luxembourg Gardens today, and then over to the Place de Contrescarpe for a beverage or two. Maybe down to join the young folks by the river later..........
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That was a really good and interesting description of the Cornell Scarlett/Fire. I should take some English lessons from you. Those Scar/Fires and Morning Dews from Cornell are my favorites too, and are mostly what makes Barton Hall unusually good for me. Like Keith said also, I find the post '71 St. Stephens to be a bit ponderous, and just lacking the crackling edge of the earlier ones, though still plenty worthy on 5/8. I find that there are certain and a limited number of Dead tune versions that transcend what is normally just music to me, and become what seems to me more like a journey, or a place they take you along to, which can vary from listening to listening. Not really in a trippy way, but this place is rare and built inside the mind, and goes beyond the normal listening experience. I think the first time I experienced this was the Dark Star sequence on one side of my early LP of Live/Dead way back when. It doesn't happen every time I listen to those type of tunes' versions, but when it does, it's what makes this band different than any other to me. As much as I like a lot of different versions of Scarlett/Fire, when I listen to every note and phrase, and loudly with earphones locking out other distractions, the Barton Hall version is the one that brings this to me most uniquely. Of course, for others on this board, your mileage may vary.
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A Parisian Deadhead greets you. You seem to know Paris. When I attended my first Dead concert (at L'Olympia in Paris), I was an 18-year-old boy. I am now an old man who sometimes walks in the Jardin du Luxembroug. At my next walk along the banks of the Seine, I will think of you.
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I find your post very interesting. There are certain interpretations of songs that, for me, go beyond music, which are not only very good music, but awaken something rare in my mind - but not systematically. A bit like a mystical experience. For me, the pieces of Cornell that we talked about are sometimes open doors to these magical moments. As for my English, I use Google's translation tool!
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I'm very surprised that this five show box set is not sold out by now. I am sure it will be worth the money and time it took me/you to finally purchase it. I find it interesting reading all your comments. At 70 I have learned, to certain degree, to sit back and smell the pot...I mean...roses! Anyway, I am sure that when we all receiver our box sets we will savor every note. Also, It is nice seeing people, from all over the world, commenting about purchasing/listening to the dead. Is Cornell the "best" dead show ever? Who really knows. When I put on a dead show I just sit back and "enjoy" it with a good bowl of pipe tobacco, in one of my dead hand carved meerschaum pipes, and a good glass of beer/scotch. It lets me forget about the last election and all the "other" stuff going on which I have NO control over. Music is a good way for me to clam my aging body down and look forward to The Dead playing at Saratoga this summer. Mr. Pete---------> aging hippie
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Looks like the people who come up with the numbers actually do a pretty good job. One of the most desired shows on sale for 21/2 days and not sold out. Doubtful there are many serious collectors that don't know about it. In addition the actual show isn't limited. Maybe OMG there's not as many I must have everything fanatics as we fanatics thought
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A small sidebar with a misleading title. First.. great posts all day, I must say inspiring, educational fun reads and a common vibe between that cant help but bring a hopeful smile to the faces of all that read. I had a big, probably 150 year old Maple tree go in my front yard and I just got done dismantling it via chainsaw (always a little scary). Tragedy narrowly averted. I come in to read several great posts on a couple of these threads.. a few of you missing from some time. Then I turn on the TV to take a break and without changing the channel there is my alma matter, the Terrapin's playing the Badgers on the only real sport I care about, college basketball. Back to the riding mower Phish fan controversy.. agree, Senator.. Phish is a great band. The poser comment and the Phish reference was just a rouse to see if there were any Phish fans that overslept this morning. Clearly the riding mower tampering occurred late last night and we were looking for clues.. evidence of people out late last night and sleeping in today. I think we have the psysilo-flux capacitor just about fixed now.. so long as we don't use substandard fuel (seems to run best on liberty caps), time travel should be within our grasp.. I see by the post below (BMI Bullshit) that the Russian Hacking on this site is back. Stay away, Vlado.. we will not let you take back our Betty Boards! This is a fair warning.. Hands off our Betty's. And please don't click on that stupid link. Edit: Damned Badgers made sport of the peaceful turtles.
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Happy Sunday folks. Was just curious, prompted on a post a few pages back, on how it is much to our benefit that the Dead recorded all these performances, and in such good quality. Got me thinking, I know the big 24-track recordings were an expenditure, especially back in the early days, but how about stuff like these Betty Boards? Was there a big additional cost for their effort to do that? As far as I know, she ran here own reel to reel rig tapped off the main board, and would mix it separately via headphones while also doing sound for the hall. I guess there's the cost of the media, which may have been the worst part, I'm guessing. I would think any popular band today, or those not even quite so popular yet, should be recording every show. Especially these digital releases (I haven't partook in many but I know Wilco, Pearl Jam, Springsteen, etc, offer alot of shows), you'll have money for some mastering but not alot of other overhead, besides again, the media/storage. Anyways, just kind of cool.
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I'm surprised this hasn't sold out yet, but thank god I got in before it did. Just got back from Mexico, and to some great news too. It's hard not to be giddy after watching another gripping version of Ahab's, err I mean Dave's seaside chat. And was that a rogue russian submarine over Dave's right shoulder? This 4-show box is going to be legendary. But almost more exciting is whats yet to come. 100s of reels back to the vault!!! There's so much good stuff coming out us completists can barely keep up. But boy do I like to try. I love following all of the discussion on the boards. I could talk about the dead for hours and its reassuring that there are other ones out there. Time to take the dog for a walk and spin 4-2-73. Til next time...
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Less than 500 left
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4.2.90 Omni5.30.92 Las Vegas Ween - Chocolate and Cheese Ween - Quebec Ween - Shinola Vol 1 . . One must prep
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Great to see Mr. Pete on this or any thread.I always look forward to scrolling down and seeing his name with the arrow and then "aging hippie". Probably my favorite sign off. Mr. Pete into aging hippie then back into Mr. Pete. The only poster to perform the rare aging hippie sandwich. Hbob has a great sign off too with the "rock on' Only saw one post from him that didn't have it. He was in an argument with someone and left it off. Probably didn't want that person to rock on at that moment. Doc has a great sign-in with the "mornin' rockers!" Greeting. That should be trademarked. Vguy has a cool style with the dot, dot, dot to end his subject line and then again to start his comment. That is SO vguy and should also be trademarked. Wissinoming has an awesome sign off. Happy Sunday, Deadland! Always brings a smile. Moses Quasar always signs off with "take care, folks!" Awesome. Other random thoughts and nuances: JiminMD's always positive vibe. Always a pleasure to read. Keithfan's naming of the picks based on artwork (example: "skeleton skater") David Duryea's awesome avatar FloridaBobaloo's original handle is back and that's a great thing.
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I can see that argument, especially as one of simple fatigue. Plus there were only so many people there that night, and so many people saw so many shows, including shows on that tour, but not Cornell, or saw shows that were released long before, and have Dick stating that they were far superior to Cornell. I think Dick was definitely in the fatigue category of fan, because he must've been plagued by that question from the start of his tenure. And that only got louder as the Bettys leaked out in the late 80s, where now everybody seemed to have a copy in pristine sound quality of a show that had been getting raves since it was played. For me, I got into the Dead just after high school, and the cd I got was Cornell set II. I had some Phish tapes and cds and some String Cheese, and some ABB. The only tape I had that sounded anywhere that good was the ABB opening set for 2/14/70, and that was because Bear taped it. Cornell blew me away with the extremely high quality recording. The mix is better than one finds on releases like At Fillmore East or Live at Leeds, and the playing was certainly at the same incredible level as The Who and Allmans at their respective peaks. I love how someone mentioned Cornell, and 77 overall, sounding dull and studio-like in its perfection. I get that the Dead most people by 1977 had seen were not anything like perfect, that their songs, while not really hot or miss, could have clunker versions from time to time. I find the near perfection of Cornell to be a stupendous feat. Especially now that I'm in a few bands, and knowing the challenge of nailing every part of every song as a unit, but also adding in the extreme improvisatory nature of the Dead, and you add in tightrope walking above sharks. There are still miscues in Cornell, even in Fire as Jerry forgets a line, and in St Stephen when Donna comes in a moment too soon, but in the grand scheme, this is a nearly perfect group-mind experiment. My favorite solo by Jerry ever is the Scarlet solo, he just nails every part of it with such gentle phrasing and fantastic dynamics, and it all culminates in the band hitting a crescendo perfectly together before he eases them back down into the Wind and the Willows play tea for two! If my first tape had been Veneta, I would probably say it's the greatest show they ever played and Cornell is second. As it is, I favor Cornell, even though it doesn't go as far out there, and Veneta has all time versions of Dark Star, China-Rider, Playing, GSET, Sing Me Back Home, and there's now a great dvd (except for pole guy), something in me just says that Cornell show is justifiably ranked as the pinnacle. It's definitely more accessible for a newbie than 30 minutes of acid-infused Dark Star from 8/27/72. As to there being now less than 500, I think that proves the point of this release as July 78 is still available, May 77 the first one took about 9 months to sell out if memory serves, and Spring 90 TOO sold out last fall. Also, I've had Bettys of the other shows in this box since 2000 or so, and they never sounded nearly as good as far as straight mix goes as Cornell, so I'm hoping that the fully Normanized versions will allow me to enjoy them as deeply as Cornell. I don't mean to say they sound bad by any means or that the shows aren't in the same league, but whoever mastered the Cornell disc I initially got, found a stupendous mix. When I got the rest of the show, it was Rob Eaton's BERTHA mix and it didn't sound as loud or full, and that's what I had for Boston and Buffalo, so come on May! I wish I could nap for a couple months and just wake up when they arrive...
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....actually it's dot, dot, dot, dot. Four. My crazy reckoning behind that is that there is always something that comes prior and after my comments. A neverending thread....I'm a stranger to myself....
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... that's the way I always took your posts.Always open ended with room for discussion.
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Looks like this will be sold out within hours.
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Yes, I love your city. I've been many times and have strayed far offf the tourist paths. But I can linger in Montmartre or the Musee de Orsay for hours happily.I've got some videos on YouTube from my adventures, page is. Seminole24dude. I won't bore you but I am a huge lover of Paris. Enjoy the music and your strolls.
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Spoiler alert! Link to Boston 5/7/77 included, mixed by Rob Eaton, this might pique your interests too much for those abstaining prior to delivery. Proceed with Caution! Also, I love this review was written 1/3/17. Maybe by Bolo or someone with knowledge this was coming down the pike? Keithfan avoid the temptation to check out the massive Mississippi Half-Step from 5/7/77, for it will unseat your favorite from Dave's 1. https://archive.org/details/gd77-05-07.sbd.eaton.wizard.26085.sbeok.shn… Reviewer: Mind Wondrin - favoritefavoritefavoritefavoritefavorite - January 3, 2017 Subject: 1st show of trilogy, always compared to 2nd Where's those time machines they promised us by 2010 back in 1970? If they existed how many people do you think would be hoping for a miracle outside this show? What a show for which to have a Bertha source (let alone an Eaton AND a Miller!) - first night of The Holy Trilogy. Everybody already knows these are three-in-a row, often-ranked-Top-10 shows, top to bottom, and perhaps the most famous 3 back-to-back dates (admit it and go back to your 74s and your 72s), so I'll just point out a couple things that formed my opinion here. The trilogy is weighty due to the fame of the meat in the sandwich: Barton. But there are two other equal or better three-in-a-rows in '77: 12-27>12/30 5/19>5/22 This show is the one (of the three) with the equipment problems that causes large gaps between songs. This hurts the flow and therefore the energy compared to Barton and War/Buff. If that weren't the case, this might have been a better show overall than Barton. But it would have been too hot, spinning the planet onto a new plane of existence (so we're probably lucky in that respect). The streak from Peggy-O to MNS is one of the greatest in the giant history of the band. There is no equal to this MNS, it's just A+. There's no better Samson, though there are a dozen that tie. The trilogy: 5/7/77 - A- More highest points, if a little less consistent and flowing 5/8/77 - A- Most consistent show but with fewer highest points 5/9/77 - B+ Least consistent, still with big high points Not that ranking is a necessary exercise - you have all three, you listen to them annually and apply them as salve for life's ailments. You don't master them, you simply live in the same time/space as them. You cogitate alongside them, ruminate, live inside them, lay on their couches and occasionally dust in their corners. Sometimes you take them out to dinner and they do the same. When you're too baked, they drive. They remind you when it's 4:19 and are always up for a road trip. Same as you do with 5/21/77 and 5/22/77, the best two back-to-backs ever (both A+). 1st Set: A- 2nd Set: A- Overall = 5 stars Highlights: Peggy-O, Big River, Minglewood Blues, Half-step Mississippi, Music Never Stopped, Samson & Delilah, Friend of the Devil, Estimated Prophet, Eyes of the World, Wharf Rat, U.S. Blues SOURCES. The Bertha sounds perfect but also a bit processed. The Miller is probably truer-to-source but not as mastered (for balance, etc.) though it's too hot in the bottom end, making Phil thud a bunch (as is the SBD). The Eaton is only slightly rougher. They're all perfect but I use the eaton.wizard because Phil has truer note frequency compared to the boomier Bertha (though it's not near as boomy as those mastered-for-earbuds Download Series). It's nothing you can't correct for with your EQ. DustTizzle - cuz "Fennario" and "Peggy O'" are the lyrics. It's real name is The Bonnie Lass o'Fyvie.
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Bought this with a visa gift card I got for christmas, when I look at the balance it's already been charged (154 to Warner Music Group). Anyone else have a charge on their cards for this yet? I only worry because the balance available after this transaction is less than the cost of another box set and wouldn't want to have a clerical or banking error cause me to miss out on the box if they were to try to charge it again at the time of shipping. If any of that makes any sense. Looked through the customer service page on here- says they don't accept Visa Gift Cards. Should I be worried? It already took the amount off my gift card. Wish the customer service line was open today... Thoughts?
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....yeah, one could say those tunes are one of them, or you could focus your attention on the Half-Step, GSET, Loose Lucy, El Paso, Stella from DaP 21. I am humbled by those five....
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Listened to it on the drive back home today, and that show had stellar versions of a lot of great songs, Looks Like Rain was exceptionally good and fairly light on the histrionics. The exceptional sound quality of the tape helps for the quieter moments like the hauntingly beautiful China Doll after a blistering Eyes of the World. I skipped the weirdness jam after Here Comes Sunshine for the sake of my wife, having already subjected her to the entire show thus far, even the fairly out there Playing in the Band, but she loved the And We Bid You Goodnight. We followed up with some Jerry Band Live Vol 7 from 1976, she was not impressed by the Stir It Up, nor was I, a good indicator why it was so rarely played perhaps.
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I don't believe I've seen you post before, but clearly you've been a regular, judging by your post about several folks' characteristics. Would love to hear your Dead year preferences or just which releases you've been into lately. In case you missed it, the subtitle I came up with for DaP 21 is "Recommendations From The Dead", due to this Dickinson Latvala quote I read about the Boston Garden show: The version of "Eyes of the World" from 4/2/73 - Boston is one of the best, as are versions of "Greatest Story Ever Told", "Big River", "China Cat => Rider" and "Playing in the Band". But the highlight has to be the JAM segment following "Here Comes Sunshine" Seldom do the subtitles come as effortlessly, but this one felt perfect. Coincidentally, the other Dick Latvala title that also came effortlessly, was for his favorite Europe '72 show, Rotterdam, 5/11/72. I simply call it "Dick's Pick"
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Yep and looks like they got it right.The most asked for release over 25 years goes 3 day and still isn't sold out. Now it's up to the do I really want it all. Everyone who HAD to have it has their confirmation numbers
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Where is the best place either in this forum or anywhere on the internet to talk about the current dead shows your listening to? Just trying to listen and be constructive at the same time.
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I post once in a while but I definitely read everyone's input everyday.I actually decide what to listen to a lot of the time based on suggestions that I get from right here. My favorite era changes all the time.... (4 dots as an homage to vguy) I know that sounds wishy-washy but it's true. '69 - '78 and then skip to '89 - '91 - that's the bulk of my listening. I will go on a '77 binge and them for some weird reason, get totally hooked on Spring '90. It's one of the things that I love so much about the Dead. The eras can be so different. Right now, I'm still really stuck on DaP 21. Part of the allure of this one is the fact that it's WAY better than I thought it would be. Kind of like going to see a movie and not really knowing much about it, then being blown away when it's done. I'm not sure why either... I had a perfect soundboard for years but never really listened to it like I am now. The full Norman is real and it's spectacular.
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I am in for this release same as the first May 77. I had been thinking that the first May 77 release was still on sale at Christmas -- long after is release -- that this would sell as a faster but similar pace. Boy was I wrong! I was afraid that I would not get home in time yesterday to order it before it is gone. Wow this one is going fast.
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Digging DaP 21 more and more with each passing. I think it's the best Box of Rain I can recall, and something about that Eyes is just smoking.
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'grateful dead society' is a cool facebook group. has grown to 8000 or so members, rapidly! there's lots of kind sharing of fun stuff there...
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It's great, isn't it? I had a feeling we weren't getting a bum steer when Dave talked up the big ones, like Playing, HCS, and Eyes, but to also get something special in an everyday song like Casey Jones is a story in itself. Jerry plays it like it's the first and last time anyone's ever gonna hear it. So yeah, if the closer Casey Jones is that good, you know the rest has got to be special too. I'd like a day with just this show and DaP 16.
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