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    Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.

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  • JackstrawfromC…
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    Re-seed thread
    You have my vote! "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
  • Exploratory Da…
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    There needs to be some
    There needs to be some organization. Wipe the slate clean. Do something. I agree. It's too much of a pain to go through every page. I'm too lazy to do it. I wonder if a filter can be set up to dump inactive vines (last post over a month or 2) into a separate folder. That would eliminate all those dang pages. The request for re-seeds is fine with me.
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    Sounds good to me .
  • cosmicbadger
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    Let's just ask Marye to set up a Vine Reseed Request Forum and see how it goes. Can't do any harm. Can I suggest we try to keep it free of general chit chat and such so that the requests are easy to find? Someone posts a request. If someone can help they post to say so and also post on the relevant vine page and off we go again.
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    Thank you Badger .. all those are mia vines ? crap man thats too much .. pomo1, I agree with you . it would be much easier that way . It is kinda a pain in the ass to go through every page and every posting on a vine to send mass pm`s to people requesting re-seeds . As far as re-seeding vines , I would be more then happy to re-seed however I don`t have a external dvd burner for my XP right now and lack of funds also makes it a little hard for me to re-seed anything ..not to mention the whole vista-xp thing .. But I will try to do what i can .. Thank you everybody for seeding and re-seeding !! This is a magical place for music !!
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    this will be the last time I propose a new topic for requests for re-seeds. Frankly, I don't understand why the idea has been shot down in the past, but it seems clear (to me at least) that a single spot where requests can be made and filled is necessary. Anybody who wants to have a vine revived can post and someone likely will re-seed. If there is no interest then no one will request a re-seed. This would also obviate the need to constantly go through single vines to see what needs to be re-seeded. Thanks again to everyone in the Vineyard. "Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence." Albert Einstein
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    Wow. Thank you.
    Wow. Thank you.
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    I will update the Vindex again in September some time. With the arrival of so many new megavines its going to get a lot bigger for sure. I was thinking of marking on the Vindex which Vines are dead, but as we know, pronouncing the death of a vine can be an unreliable business. MITD and others had done a lot of work to identify the status of all the vines but I am not sure where we are on that now. I really do not fancy going through every single vine in the vineyard to check its status. However a 'quick and dirty' way to do this is to go to the index for the Vineyard. Home » Forums » Dead Heads » Tapers>The Vineyard. This lists all the vines in order of the most recent post. If you go to the last pages of that you can see which vines have been inactive for a long time. This does not mean the vines are dead, they may just have reached the end of the line. And of course vines with more recent posts may actually be dead; someone might have just been asking recently where it is! But it does give you a very rough idea. Based on this, here are the 45 out of around 295 vines with no activity (MIA) since the end of May (3 months ago). 15-20% attrition in 2 years ain't too bad. Jerry Solo Acoustic 4-10-82 Capitol Theater, Passaic NJ Last Post May 29 2009 UK SOL Party Vine Last Post May 27 2009 Little Bit of Jerry Vine Last Post May 24 2009 Dead Heads for Obama 2/4/08 Vine Last Post May 23 2009 Basement Tapes #1 Vine Last Post May 23 2009 Eurovine #3 - US Branch Last Post May 21 2009 Field Trip '72 Vine Last Post May 14 2009 Warfield 10/9/80 Vine Last Post May 14 2009 ABB 9/28/04 Vine Last Post May 13 2009 Rochester, NY 9/2/80 Vine Last Post May 11 2009 - 8:34am Early Stuff Volume 1 Vine Last Post May 6 2009 Bobby & The Midnites Vine Last Post May 6 2009 Keith's First Few Months (KFFM) Vine Last Post May 6 2009 Carousel Ballroom 3/3/68 Vine Last Post May 5 2009 Winterland 12/27/77 Vine Last Post May 4 2009 Flac Me, Flac You Vine Last Post May 3 2009 Three from 1975 Vine Last Post Apr 29 2009 Tivoli '72 TV Vine Last Post Apr 29 2009 Progressive Rock Vine Last Post Apr 27 2009 Boise, ID 9/23/83 Vine Last Post Apr 27 2009 Orpheum Theater 7-12-76 Vine Last Post Apr 22 2009 Felt Forum 1971 Vine Last Post Apr 21 2009 Bigger Bit of Talking Heads Vine Last Post Apr 20 2009 The Sublime Vine Last Post Apr 18 2009 PKPotter Vine Last Post Apr 9 2009 Cleveland Convention Center 12/6/73 Vine Last Post Apr 5 2009 Phil Lesh Christmas 2007 Vine Last Post Mar 27 2009 Neil & Crazy Horse 2001 Eurotour Compilation Vine Last Post Mar 20 2009 Cream Filling #1 1973 Vine Last Post Mar 11 2009 Winterland 10/22/67 Vine Last Post Feb 23 2009 Phil Warfield Plus Eurovine Last Post Feb 20 2009 Gruga Halle 3/28/81 Vine Last Post Feb 18 2009 Eurovine #5 U.S. Branch Last Post Feb 18 2009 Warfield 2/17/82 Vine Last Post Feb 14 2009 Baton Rouge, LA Vine Last Post Feb 8 2009 Jerry Garcia/Greg Harrington Interview Vine Last Post Jan 15 2009 Merl Saunders Keep On Keepin' On Vine Last Post Jan 11 2009 Fall 79 Part One Vine Last Post Dec 27 2008 Eurovine #2 - US Branch Last post Dec 17 2008 Crazy Quilt, AKA Crazy Guilt, Vine Last post Nov 30 2008 Phil Eurovine #1 Last post Nov 12 2007 Winterland October 1978 Vine (From Egypt With Love) Suspended due to official release Egypt 1978 Vine Suspended due to official release Nassau Coliseum 1990 Vine Inactive because it is a duplicate Winterland '72-'73 Vine Suspended when Winterland 73 box set released 10/8-9/89 - Hampton Coliseum Vine Suspended when updated I will try to post this list every 3 months with the Vindex. It only takes 15 minutes to make and should become more reliable as time goes by. I have never been to the middle parts of the USA, but I think the landscapes have a lot in common with Central Asia; hot dry summers and hard cold winters. Deserts, mountains and steppe.
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    If the problems were straight up vista/xp incompatibility wouldn't it be more widespread, it seems more random in the vineyard unless the majority of us are using vista. I will try your suggestion oh yeah the next time I burn a DVD for a vine (which will be soon!!) :-) "I've stayed in every blue-light cheap hotel. Can't win for tryin. Dust off those rusty strings just one more time. Gonna make em shine."
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    1. Insert a disc into your computer's CD or DVD drive. 2. In the dialog box that appears, click "Burn files to disc." 3. In the "Burn a disc" dialog box, type a name for your new disc. 4. Also in the "Burn a disc" dialog box, click "Change version." This will open the "Select a Live File System Version" dialog box, where you can choose a different formatting version for compatibility with different kinds of computers. Select Live File System version 1.5 or 1.02. Either one will work with Mac OS X Tiger (my computer), but earlier Macs and PCs may need version 1.02; it's pretty much universal. It's versions 2.01 and 2.5 that are the least compatible, and unfortunately Vista is set at 2.5 until you change it. 5. Click Next to prepare the disc. The "Mastered" workaround that stuman mentioned works too, as does switching to XP, which is what a lot of people have done (generally speaking; I don't know if anyone in the vineyard has switched). For Mac owners, I believe Mac OS X 10.5 (Leopard) and the new Mac OS X 10.6 (Snow Leopard), the latter of which ships this Friday, both accept the Live File System 2.5 DVDs (ie, the default version in Vista). But without upgrading my OS I have to fire up my PC laptop (XP, but it sees the Vista-created DVDs) and move the files over to a flash drive, which I then open on my Mac. Ain't technology grand?? :-) ~~~~~~~ "They say Cain caught Abel rolling loaded dice"
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I`ll start putting something together .
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If there is interest I can start a vine. I have offered in the past with no takers. I have almost all of 1995 shows. I have listed the ones that I have already converted from tape to CD. These shows are Digital clones of Gen 1 DAT or 2nd Gen Tape. Yes I still have DAT. They are rotting away a slow death. I went DECK to CD Burner. I use a Sony RCD-W500C Burner. I love it and can copy a vine in 20 -30 minutes. Anyway the list below I have already transfered. I will be checking the reponses I see. PM if interested and I will start a vine. All SBD>C except 03-19. If there is a huge response I can vine all of the shows below in 3 waves.02-20 02-21 03-17 03-18 03-19 Af:DAT>C 03-23 03-26 03-27 04-02 04-07 06-02 06-25 07-06 07-09 Let the music flow.... Deadtaper
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Yes. I want as much '95 as possible. Yes, I'll take them in a vine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! '94 and '95 are my favorite 90s years. Jerry's voice sounded clearer.
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Im going to Chicago next week for the Furthur shows and will be up there for a week or so. I shouldent hold up any vines for very long but I just wanted to let everyone know. Peace and Love, Trevor "You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."
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Hey Trevor, I think you will enjoy the shows. I went last night to Radio City. It was the first time I was back there since I saw three shows from the 1980 run. Brought back a lot of memories. Last night was a fine show. Pretty tight and they actually sounded like the Grateful Dead at times. I got to see Viola Lee Blues and Mason's Children live. Phil is still amazing. Of course, it ain't the same without the Fat Man, but I really enjoyed the night. "That path is for, your steps alone."
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Anyone notice that they changed the cassette card (j card) picture on deadlists.com? It was 9/23/72 forever.
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By a conservative count, I have 130 GD and JG shows in my possession that I have not listened to, most I haven't even converted yet. Thus, the acquisitions MUST desist. I'm gonna take a break from signing up for vines until I catch up (unless something I really want presents itself, such as the Feb 80 JGB vine Stuman is working on). I've removed myself from the vines that I was signed up for. Listening to a show a day, which is what I normally do, if not more, and I should return to full vining status in 4 months, haha. Of course, I will get out what I have and what I mistakenly receive. Don't worry, I'm not a quitter, I'm just on hiatus.
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"Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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I was wondering if you lose any quality or integrity by moving or I should say copying your flac/shn files from one external hard drive to another one?? I'd like to organize my music files across my various HD's but won't do it if it compromises quality. Thanks in adance for any advice!! "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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they will all copy 100% faithfully. Don't forget to make back ups as well...I know to my cost that it's worth the trouble
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I have transfered files between 3 diferent hard drives and I hav`nt noticed any loss of quality.
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Enjoy the "hiatus."Just don't disappear from Dead.net completely. "That path is for, your steps alone."
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who helped me add to my Joe Walsh collection. I don't suppose anyone has some good Three Dog Night shows do they? If you know of any PM me, I have lots to trade. Thanks
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I am like Derek. I have a lot of unconverted flac files. I have at least 200 converted shows plus another....um....30+ of unconverted. When I get a flac vine, I just burn a copy of the DVD and pass it on and convert the stuff later..or maybe not at all. I am not dropping out but I am slowing down. :-) I am posed and ready to pounce on deadtaper's '95 vine when it comes out!
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Don't we have a whole lifetime to listen to the music we get from these vines? All I need are external hard drives, good organization and a good system for converting and listening. I say keep on vining no matter what! "And I love the life I live And I'm gonna live the life I love"
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I keep a good rotation, around 5 new cd's a week. Of course I always have room for my favorites. Hearing Garcia count everyone through an early version of Loser on the Perro tapes is classic!
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I'm reaching my saturation point too. I have more than I can listen to in a lifetime in shn/flac format. My wife has kindly pointed that out to me several times ;-) Lopezz, good idea to use R/W CDs. I tend to playback the shn/flacs using Foobar, and when I find a really good show I'll burn to CDs. My goal is to be able to set up a set of hard drives and throw a wireless signal from the PC to my stereo so I can use the PC as my jukebox. No more CD player at all and no need to burn CDs except for road trips. I have Foobar and TLH at work too, so I really don't need CDs. I spend most of my time on trying to organize and catalog what I have. The more I add, the further (!) behind I get on that side, so it is time to slooooooow down. "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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Whenever I reach the saturation point, it always becomes a matter of quality over quantity.For example, mp3 improves to Shn/Flac and the next groove will be 24-bit. I'd sure like to hear a show or two of those Apr.'71, Fillmore shows el TejonCosmico was trying to sell earlier, wouldn't you? Where does the time go? "
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Hey all - Yesterday I jumped on the bus in Broomfield and am riding it the rest of the tour to the Bill Grahm Civic Auditorium for Phils Birthday. I may get a little back-logged on a couple of vines but will certainly get caught up when I return. As far as slowing down - I just bought a couple of new HD's from Sam's Club. So I am pushing on - keep those vines coming :-) "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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Lopezz...a JW vine or add it to a FWGV vine perhaps? I'm a big JW fan. JackStraw - I'm jealous - following them across the country - awesome to be able to do that. If I wasn't busy, I'd come down to BG Civic Auditorium and meet you there for a beer at least ;-) "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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Keep a song in your heart. some Joe Walsh please. Greg
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I've got a beauty from Oroboros, 11-11-81 pre FM King Biscuit Flower Hour. Also another good one from Stuman, James Gang 9-8-06 AudMatrix. I have a very quiet audience recording from 8-19-97, a SBD from 11-24-73 University of Texas, a live compilation from 81-91, and then some Eagles concerts, 4 I think.
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Hey all.... been AWOL awhile.... and have some vines to get out this week.... mea culpa and my apolgies.... BUT!!! What is the best way to burn 24 bit to DVD or to CD for playback purposes! I have no knowledge... but the few 24 bit shows I do have sound considerably better even through the computer add on speakers I use.... so I want to get them onto my DVD surround sound system but have failed to do so so far. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. Raymond
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Cosmic Badger wrote a nice piece on this.Page 10 about 1/2 way down. Quote" 24 Bit avatar On February 7th, 2010 cosmicbadger said: can sound fantastic Witness the mindboggling 24 Bit versions of the of the fabulous April 71 shows that are appearing these days (the latest is 4-26-71). The main drawbacks are that the files are MUCH bigger and you cannot convert them to WAV (without losing all the audio benefits). And of course the audio source must be of good quality to be be able to make a difference. To listen you have two main choices Play through a 24 Sound Card or Digital Audio Converter. Your PC is unlikely to have such a thing internally. I have an external 24 Bit box that sits between my computer and my hi-fi. Its not the best you can get but it does the job. Burn to an Audio DVD or Video DVD and play through a suitable player. You can find out much more about entering the world of 24 bit by reading this http://24bit.turtleside.com/ and through this discussion http://www.shnflac.net/forum.php?action=viewtopic&topicid=10231 WOW as I write I see that a new 24 Bit Matrix of 74-6-23 Jai Alai Fronton has just appeared."
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Any interest in an 8 show SHN/FLAC Led Zeppelin vine? I should soon be receiving 8/31/69, 1/22/73, 5/13/73, 2/12/75, 2/28/75, 3/5/75, 5/25/75 and 6/1/77. Most are supposed to be of very good sound quality.
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"And I love the life I liveAnd I'm gonna live the life I love"
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"And I love the life I liveAnd I'm gonna live the life I love"
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I will be away all weekend. Can somebody sign me up for the '95 vine part 1 if it gets posted? I have been waiting since the middle of the week, and I bet it will get posted when I am not around to sign up. Thks
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Stu, I picked up this entire show tonight from LL. I'll send a copy over to you. "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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Unclejon, I also got it from LL but acording to the notes it is only set 2 and set 3 . I would love to have that entire show , I`ll go over to LL and look for it . save you the postage if i find it . Thank you Unclejon . *** Clean***Sober***Proud***
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I just looked into LL and Workingmans, the recent torrents uploaded there are only sets 2 & 3. this is the complete source gd66-11-29.sbd.ret.20448.sbeok.shn . But thanks for the kind offer Unclejon . And thank you Ltapilot ! If anyone has any 66 that is not on my 66 shn/flac vine please let me know . we could work a trade or something . Hope you all have a nice weekend !! *** Clean***Sober***Proud***
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Good catch Stu! Now I want that first set too! "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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Since at least one person wants it, I will vine it! I received the first 4 shows yday and am listening to a very hot 2/28/75 right now (google "rampaging cajun" and "led zeppelin" to find out info on it if you want). The No Quarter was awesome. Once I receive the other 4 shows (sometime next week in all likelihood) I will vine the whole thing.
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Oh I will bet big that more than one person is interested ;-) "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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I bought 2 From the Vault years ago, when it came out. I didn't pay much attention when the reissue appeared, but after hearing the 8/23 Alligator/Caution on the Taper's Section, I'd be willing to shell out again for 2 From the Vault if I knew that was what appears on the bonus disc. Can anyone confirm that's the date from which the bonus tracks are taken?Thanks for your time. Steve
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According to www.deaddisc.com/disc/Two_From_The_Vault.htm it is possible you have those additional tracks already... quote 'There was some confusion on the original release of this set as to the date of the recordings. Initially the music was thought to be from both August 23 and August 24 1968. It has since been determined though that the music on Two From The Vault is all from August 24, 1968. The additional tracks added as a third disc for the expanded edition are from August 23rd, 1968. The Alligator > Caution > Feedback sequence that forms the third CD in the expanded edition has previously been released on; * The Golden Road (1965-1973), Grateful Dead, 2001 * Anthem Of The Sun, Grateful Dead, 2003 (expanded edition) ' unquote
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Thanks for the information!
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hey I was not criticising you in any way about launching those April 71 vines....you can't be expected to read minds :-) what is important is that someone got those shows out because they are soooo good. Happy that it is you.
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I too have been unable to burn as of yet... but even just listening on my upgraded computer speakers.... these 24 bit are fantastic! Esp. this '71 run.... I also DL'ed an '85 show that was better but not quite as pronounced as the Fillmore shows of '71. Maybe this weekend I will actually figure out how to play them from the DVD player... Raymond
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As soon as I get Portland I'm going to seed the winter 2010 tour including phil's birthday. There will be a couple of shows in 24bit format too. "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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Hey viners!The Bus is posting his JGB 1981 project on bt.etree. I have d/l part 1 and am getting ready to d/l part 2. If any one out there wants to collaborate on this project PM me and we can start a joint vine. If not no worries I'll keep plugging away, parts 3 and 4 are up now and I think there will be more parts coming. Speaking of joint... (~) : } "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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Any one have this one and would be willing to Vine or trade? Thanks in advance, Marty
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Does anyone have any live YES from the '73 - '74 Tales from Topographic Oceans tour? Not sure if YES is trade friendly. I had some stuff years ago and was lost when the computer died.
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I have a show or 2 but not from that tour. I'd be up for some mid-70's Yes. BTW, I got the Led Zep shows in over the weekend. I'll have an 8 show SHN/FLAC vine posted later this week.
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I also have some Yes , but also not from The Topograghic tour . I`ll look into the HD`s and post what I have later . *** Clean***Sober***Proud***
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I saw some questions around 24 bit. I just figired this out myself so passing the info along. After downloading the flac files I drag them into an opensource program called dvd-audiofile version 0.60. I then hit the create ISO button. I then use Roxio to burn the ISO image onto dvd (note this is essentially burning a data disc onto dvd). This creates a DVD Audio disc which will play in DVD players that can decode that. I haven't found many sources worthy of this so far but at least I figured out how to do it. If you have questions let m eknow. Marty