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Hi Brookvale Records just announced the release of the Dick's Picks Series on VINYL for the first time. These releases are an official release between Brookvale Records and The Dead. You can read the whole story at: http://brookvalerecords.com/the-grateful-dead-dicks-picks-vol-1-vol-2-n… Please help spread the word. Thanks! karl

What I don't get is why they don't advertise this on Dead.net. Oh, and I also don't get why they'd leave one side of the record blank for Dick's Picks 2. Seems like a cool concept to put these out on vinyl.

I am starting to get very curious about what Dave's Picks Volume 4 will bring us. Volume 1 was 77, Volume 2 was 74, volume 3 was 71....so if volume 4 follows the "3 years earlier" pattern then it could possibly be an amazing show from 1968. Also, the first 3 volumes are from the 70's, so could volume 4 be one more amazing show from that decade? Whatever show it will be, I have no doubt that it will be a nice treat.

David Lemieux had said that each volume in a given year will be from a different line up of the band. So, the Vol. 4 has to be pre-Keith or post Keith. I have been thinking along the lines of an early 80's release, but 68 would be great...

Oh yeah, thats right. I forgot about the different line up thing. Something from 68 would be great. I really like the high energy valentines day road trips from 68. Whatever show vol 4 is, I'm sure it will be great. To me, each one has been better than the last.

Although, it could be a Keith and Pigpen show.

Could be, but unlikely on the heels of the Europe 72 box...Still guessing early 80's though...

William & Mary Keith show. You can bitch but you're gonna love it!

1974 and 1976 differ not on the keyboards, but with the number of drummers!! David does it again with a great Pick.

Does not Dap 1 and Dap 4 have the same band lineup? Ah, the art of bullshit strikes again.

i have a recommendation for david & jeff concerning the indexing of the tracks on the vault releases. when enjoying shuffle on my various devices & a live dead tune comes up it will start right at the beginning of the tune & then include the between song tuning up to the beginning of the next tune (this is mostly a first set occurrence). i think it would be nice to have the indexing start with the tuning for the appropriate song & end before the tuning for the next song. it is an aural observation made from many years of listening. after all the wonderful releases it is my only "complaint" though i hesitate to consider it such. i mainly listen to whole shows, usually on or around their original show date-which provides for year round listening without playing new year's shows in july-due to the large amount of material out there for our listening pleasure. i do enjoy the shuffle option & that is when the indexing issue presents itself...just a thought...

i have a recommendation for david & jeff concerning the indexing of the tracks on the vault releases. when enjoying shuffle on my various devices & a live dead tune comes up it will start right at the beginning of the tune & then include the between song tuning up to the beginning of the next tune (this is mostly a first set occurrence). i think it would be nice to have the indexing start with the tuning for the appropriate song & end before the tuning for the next song. it is an aural observation made from many years of listening. after all the wonderful releases it is my only "complaint" though i hesitate to consider it such. i mainly listen to whole shows, usually on or around their original show date-which provides for year round listening without playing new year's shows in july-due to the large amount of material out there for our listening pleasure. i do enjoy the shuffle option & that is when the indexing issue presents itself...just a thought...

I originally posted this under the thread for the cut down version of Spring 1990 but this may be a better place Taken from soundstagedirect web site Friday Music is pleased to announce the exclusive 180 Gram Audiophile 4 LP Box Set of the Grateful Dead's "Spring 1990- So Glad You Made It." This ltd. ed. set is a treasure trove of highlights from 6 of their finest shows from their legendary Spring 1990 tour. Filled with 20 unreleased gems, Dead classics & rarities abound in this lengthy audiophile dream box. Tracks include "Loser", "Scarlet Begonias," "Estimated Prophet," "Playing In The Band" & The Rolling Stones "The Last Time."The LP box & labels also feature the artwork of Wes Lang, including a LP art insert suitable for framing. Presumably they will use the same tapes to master the LPs.

Hey Gang,We are releasing Dicks Picks vol 3 and 4 on vinyl March 19th. You can pre order now at www.BrookvaleRecords.com These are from the original tapes and mastered for vinyl by Jeffrey Norman. See below for his comments. Thanks for your time. FROM THE ORIGINAL MASTER TAPES! Mr Norman talks about mastering vol 3 and 4. “I was excited to get the chance to remaster the early Dick’s Picks’ releases for vinyl…they were originally mastered for CD in 1995-96, and I was looking forward to hearing the 1/4″ source tapes once again, 17 years later. What I didn’t expect was the dramatic improvement the new mastering gives to these classic releases. The original CD resolution is 44.1KHz/16bit (as is any released CD), while the mastering I am now doing for the vinyl releases is 96KHz/24bit. I’m now using a state-of-the-art analog to digital converter (Pacific Microsonics Model 2)….and I’ve probably gotten better at doing this over the years! I used the original CDs as a guide for the new mastering, but when listening to the CDs I feel like I’m listening in black and white, while the new mastering feels like I’m listening in color. It’s very exciting! A few observations: the mixes for Dick’s Picks Vol. 3 and Vol. 4 couldn’t be more different. The Pembroke Pine show (Vol.3) is quite bass strong and powerful. The Fillmore East show (2/13-14/12) on the other hand is very bright and a little bass shy. Both represent the ears and interpretations of the mixers at the time (Betty Cantor Jackson at Pembroke Pines, and Bear at the Fillmore East), and both capture the quality and excitement of these shows. I did some equalization on both shows to enhance the presentation but kept true to what the original mixers intended. As typical of all Grateful Dead shows, both these two shows are very dynamic….there’s a wide range of volume from quiet to very loud. I tried to keep the dynamics intact, with very little limiting, using limiting mainly as protection against digital overs. In choosing the songs for each side of vinyl, the goal was to be true to the flow of the show and keep the fidelity as high as possible. There is a physical limitation to the length of a vinyl side….if it gets too long there is a loss of bass and level. Ideally the sides would be no longer than 20 minutes, and for the most part that was accomplished. However there are a few sides that are longer than ideal, but because of the way the music lays out there was no way around a few longer lengths. Also because of those side length constraints, there are some songs that had to be split in two (i.e. Vol.4 Dark Star, The Other One, and Lovelight)…sorry, you’re going to have to flip the record to get the entire “good stuff”. Considering that these tapes are 40 years old (in the case of Vol. 4, Fillmore East), they sound phenomenal! There are some issues on the original recording that can’t be fixed (i.e.. L/R movement side to side in Vol. 3 Eyes of the World), but that in no way takes away from this great music.”

I've always been a fan of the "Philo Stomp", which was basically a Phil freakout which occurred at a handful of shows at the end of the 1972 tour, usually towards the end of an "Other One". Can anybody tell me if a "Philo Stomp" has ever been officially released as either a Vault, DicksPicks, RoadTrips, or Dave's Pick's selection. Many thanks to all ; )

I might check DP 11, 23, or 36 for good candidates. Alas, I am not sure. I will listen for the stomp next time I have one of these shows in the player... Maybe DP 28? (that's an early '73 one) Great question...

Nothing official, but....I stumbled across a few shows with Phil providing some prominent bass notes: From 1972, check out the Dark Star's from St Louis, Milwaukee and Cleveland during October, as well as the KC show on 11/13/72. From the Taper's section 6 years ago, you will want to listen to this: http://www.dead.net/features/tapers-section/february-19-february-25-2007 Select the 2/24/73 tidbit from Iowa.

And I really wanted to listen to the sound quality of the tidbit you mention from 1974, listed in Taper's. Alas, I couldn't get it to play through the Windows player. If you'll recall, Lemieux went through all that flack because TPTB were upset people were saving the pieces of Taper's Section and that player has been changed. I am left wondering if these are blocked from being played or if you have to be just a little computer savvy to find the right program to play it with... Does anybody have success playing Taper's Section this far back, or could this be an irregularity to the individual clip? Were you advising through memory, GTed, or did you actually get it to play? I never did the Philo Stomp, but I sure did the Navarro & Casper Stomp! (Ahhh, memories of Mendocino high times). I do remember a 1981 show I attended at Nassau where Space became a full-stomp freakout by Phil and the boys out of space into a Nobody's jam (5/9/81). That is probably as close as I ever got to a "Philo Stomp".

You must have QuickTime installed for it to work. (At least on Windows) Is it just me or were the Dead on a hot streak in '80-'81? Thanks for the tip on the '81 show Anna, I'm going to check it out!*update* Yeah, I just checked out 5-9-81 Drums/Space. I don't hear any philo stomp (or anything resembling), nor Nobody's Fault. Just a tribal freakout on Drums and Space going right into Truckin'. I did notice several setlists on the archive have Nobody's Fault listed before Drums, including Deadbase and the Compendium - sounded pretty non-existent if ya ask me.

yeah, ahem, I agree on 5/9/81 --& no NOBODY'S JAM either thanks for QP tip.

Had their "Shining Stars", but we had lost the era of Jerry in his prime.

I wonder who should I talk to to try to get 10/28/72 Cleveland released as a Dave's Picks selection? Seems to be the ur-Philo Stomp! ; )

Does anyone know if these box sets have a limited production run? and how many produced?

Does anyone know the production run of this one ... I thought it had sold out(?), but is now available in store.

I have purchased several of the individual Europe '72 shows. I don't plan to get all of them, but I do want to make sure to get the best of the bunch. Are there any others that are not to be missed? Paris on 5/4 maybe? Thanks! So far I have: 4/8 4/14 (a favorite) 4/24 4/26 5/3 5/7 (a favorite) 5/10 5/11 5/23 5/24 5/25 5/26 (a favorite)

Yeah man definitely Paris 5/4/72. Truly one of the greatest Dark Stars from this tour. Also, don't miss 4/11 for one of the best Other Ones.

Hey all. Recently listened to DP5 for the first time in a long while, and was wondering if the chop at the end of Alabama is there for everyone, or is it just a skip my CD has picked up? It plays for the full 6:58, but then 'transition' to Promised Land has a chop in it.

Never mind, Disc Doctor to the rescue!

This has got to be one of the most cobbled together releases ever but it smokes nonetheless. I'm thinking of getting it for my Dad. If I could only find another copy with the bonus disc for a little less than my left kidney...if I had the world to give... :-)

Relix on line has this article on the Betty Tapes. A great read. http://www.relix.com/articles/detail/whats_become_of_the_bettys

Again it happens. I received an email sometime on thursday about daves picks vol 10. Of course I just logged on a little bit ago and saw this soooo in just over 24 hrs all remaining copies had sold out. Why are these releases being limited to what is obviously an insufficient number of copies. Also, if the subscription had already sold out how are there more available? I am not upset that there were probably like 4 copies more that were found for sale. I am very, very bothered that these are being treated like they are a commodity to be manipulated so many folks are left out in the cold. I have not been able to acquire a single daves picks release, never mind the even rarer bonus releases, but when dicks picks was the name of the game I was able to acquire every release but two. What is the moral of making these so difficult to obtain? Ebay is full of people, whom should be flogged imo, gouging the prices on these recordings that have far too few copies. Maybe when they sell out it could be wise to have another pressing, less if necessary but why are these being treated as if they were tickets to a Grateful Dead NYE show and the band was playing a 600 seat venue? Is Grateful Dead Merchandise printing 14000 copies only selling 10000 and bleeding the other 4000 on ebay for prices at multiples of the original price? Feels like insider trading on wall street. I understand not wanting to be forced to wharehouse tons of copies like dicks picks 9, I think the one with king kong on the cover but was the worst show in the dicks picks catalog, but must the shelves remain empty? I used to hate heads that would buy a dicks picks release and copy it for everyone but I now think that is the only way to go since these are being handed out like oxygen on the moon. I know Jerry is gone as is the band and not everyone who ever called themselves a head would buy a copy but there are more than 14000 fans left willing to shell out money ,we might not always have, in order to get a copy. Maybe subscriptions should go on sale a full year in advance of release so we might actually determine the actual number of copies desired. I've said it before but selling the subscription right around the holidays is financially painful to some of us. Try a lay away plan , I don't know but I would love to see all of these releases to enjoy a second release. Didn't Jerry once say something like once we're done playing it the music is the audiences. I have no problem paying a fair price and I don't have a clue what his or any of the band members views are regarding this music but I find it hard to believe that anyone can defend limiting the music to so few. Maybe Dead merchandising would still be operating 24-7Iif there were more copies to sell since that would mean more cash flow. And atleast this way of making money for the band and family doesn't require a grueling non-stop touring beast that if even indirectly it led to Jerry's demise with all of the pressure. Yeah stores don't sell CD'S like they once did but maybe with the right exposure and promotion some of our millions of heads and fans might actually buy more music, especially if everyone were to know that shows can be purchased. I personally know of at least a couple of folks that don't even know about dead.net much less Daves picks. Maybe that is good cause then I stand a better chance of getting at least one release but lightning striking seems more likely at this point.

I agree that these releases should not go out of print and be made available as demand dictates. Check out King Crimson's site. They run out of stock of various live releases all the time and always indicate "more on the way" or something to that effect. Our tastes change...sometimes we're not looking for a particular Dead show but next month, next year, whenever, we may want it. I'd buy some of these Dave's Picks but I feel the same way. With the holidays approaching each November, I cannot buy myself a subscription for the following year and then not even know what is getting released. Some limited releases are understandable. But, in my opinion, the Dick's Picks, Road Trips and Dave's Picks should be available at any time in physical form. Then, we wouldn't see these selling on eBay for lots of $$$...

Hi, Will Dave's Picks ever make it to iTunes for those of us that are strictly digital and don't use CD's?

I still prefer a cd over a digital type of thing but if these releases are going to be so under released perhaps having something itunes like isn't so terrible. I like that the road trips are available for digital download and then capable of being burnt to discs but I am hesitant due to some bad experiences with archive.org. I still wish these would not sell out and imo I can't think of any appropriate reason for limited edition music releases. Artwork or posters yes, backstage passes and tickets but shows...no.

is there a 11/14/71 TCU recording out there...I was there...Thank you..

Well, this site does a pretty good job putting the official releases out there: http://www.whitegum.com/intro.htm Just go to the discographies section and the Live releases by year and it should give it to you. Looks like 11/14/71 TCU was partially released as the bonus disc for the Road Trips Volume 3, #2 release. Complete show for 11/15/71 is the main release, and 11/14/71 in part, on the bonus disc: China>Rider, Sugaree, Truckin' > Drumz > Other One > MAMU > Other One > Wharf Rat > Sugar Magnolia. It's got to be out there, in full. somewhere, but I don't have it personally. =============== In terms of Dave's Picks, Volume 12, does the Sunrise lose Donna's vocals at the beginning for everyone, or did I get a bad press?

You're not hearing things. My DaP 12 sounds the same. Btw, another good discography site is www.deaddisc.com

Both my hearing and my stereo have been ridden pretty hard over the years. They gotta go sometime, but well worth it. And I have gotten bad copies of discs before, glad to now that isn't the case here. Though I do love Sunrise.

Hello, new to the site but not new to the Dead. 18 shows attended (alas only 90s shows) and plenty of lost Maxell XL II's. As I write this I am LOVING the second show of Spring 1990 TOO. My question is this: I have some disposable "hobby" income to blow and am planning to grab some Dead discs that I don't usually have the funds for. I am wondering what you guys would choose. Keep in mind most of these choices are at Ebay and aftermarket prices. I have anywhere between $1000 -$1500 to spend. 1. Europe 72 All Music $450 on dead.net 2. Spring 1990 $600 on Ebay (love these shows anyone know where to get cheaper?) 3. May 77 $225 on EBay 4. Winter land 77 $600 on EBay (again crazy price) 5. Dicks Picks 1 - 36 (every one) $950 a local guy is selling on craigslist 6. Misc single shows, Dave's Picks, etc running around $40 - $60 each EBay I am leaning towards the Dick's Picks package and May 77 but really want to hear your thoughts. I am such a fan of great shows BUT I love high quality sound and my fear is the Dicks Picks won't live up to what I am hearing on Spring 1990 TOO in terms of sound quality. Thanks and so excited to hear your advice!

You have as #1 Europe '72. Go for it! All is what you want - sound, performance and the very fact it's available! Mind boggling. Comparing Dick's to Dave's sound-wise? Can't do it - Dave's are superior. But almost all the Dick's music-wise are going to satisfy. The Dick's and Europe would shoot your wad, but you'd be up to speed and able to cherry-pick Dave's as you go. Good luck - you'll make the right decision. Deadicated aka Kevin

Spring 1990 and May 77 are both available as digital downloads from dead.net so if you don't need the physical box set you can save a lot of money there.

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Hello, in honor of the 50th, Real Gone Music has put selected volumes of the Dick's Picks live concert series on sale at 20% off. The selection can be viewed on our web site through this Bitly link: http://bit.ly/1RdlVeU Thank you!

According to jerrygarcia.com, this exclusive disc is available with purchases of the main set. I thought this disc had been out of print, so I grabbed one fast! I'll let y'all know if it comes with my order later this week. I hope so! :-) http://jerrygarcia.shop.musictoday.com/Product.aspx?cp=640_62123&pc=JYC… P.S. The bonus discs issued with the 'Best of' Jerry set (Twisted Radio Waves & More of the Best) are available, too... http://jerrygarcia.shop.musictoday.com/Product.aspx?cp=640_62123&pc=JYC…

Does anyone know if there are plans to release to full 80-disc "30 Trips" collection will ever be released digitally?

Here's the update I promised when I initially brought it up last Thursday. The set arrived today, and it does in fact come with the bonus disc. It's a great deal as it is priced up quite a bit on eBay at the moment. Grab it if you need it with the bonus! (Or the Jerry 'Best of)...

Hi Everyone, Thank you for reading my question here. I recently placed an order to buy several shows from the Dick's Picks series. I only noticed after the fact that these were reissues, put out by Real Gone Music after the original Dick's Picks CDs & box sets etc. Sold out. My question is: How do these sound compared to the original Rhino & Grateful Dead issues? Is it known how exactly they reissue these albums? Do they acquire the masters? Or are they simply playing the Rhino CD's into a storage device, or some sort of direct transfer etc in order to press new CDs? Does anyone know if this done in conjunction with Rhino and the Grateful Dead organization? Thank you kindly for any informed answers, Mr Genie

Where can I find which show dates correspond to which Dick's Picks/ Dave's Picks?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Dick%27s_Picks_albums https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=Daves+picks&searchToken=c…