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  • Kate_C.
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    Pig - endings

    It's late on a Sunday and that means bed soon, but since my quick reply to TD's inquiry below, I've been further thinking about the tragedy of Pig - and I certainly think of it that way despite the manifest personal responsibility for the consequences of near incessant alcohol abuse from a young age. It's a spiraling decline that seems particularly pathos-laden given the picture of a gentle, genial man that emerges from all the familiar documentary sources.

    I take notes or attempt to catalogue page references by subject from my little library of the Dead, but realize I've done a poor job on this particular subject - and certainly during the general time frame implied by TD's question. So, I wanted to share a couple relevant - and heartbreakingly poignant - passages from Jackson's "Garcia/American Life" that I've revisited since:

    First, McIntire speaking: "I remember one day Garcia coming into my office and saying, 'Look, I'm really worried about Pig. I think his life is in danger, and I want to do whatever we can. The band'll pay for everything. Let's find out if there's anything we can do.' So I researched it and I found out the most famous place in the world for liver problems was Sheila Sherlock's clinic in London. But my doctor, Sandor Bernstein, said there was a guy at UCSF [University of California and San Francisco] who was as good. So we slotted Pig with him. And Pig jumped in and did, too. He stopped drinking and he learned all the things about nutrition that he could. He really tried, but it was too late."

    And second: "[On the tour] he rode on the hard bus, this Danish bus, which was sort of like the crew bus," Annette Flowers said. "It was the quieter of the two buses usually. Pigpen lived on the back bench of that bus. ... I think that trip sort of sunk it for him; put him over. It was really grueling in a lot of ways." "He got knocked off that bench five or six times," Rock Scully recalled. "He rolled off that bench and a couple of times he really hurt himself I could see it; he really hurt his kidneys and bruised himself. I'd have to help him off the bus."

    "He really tried, but it was too late." A short, simple statement, but one that can put fault lines in even a strong foundation. I recall reading that Pig sent Veronica away as his condition became increasingly acute, which, in light of other information, clearly underscores what a lonely and frankly terrifying period those final 12-18 months must have been for that kindhearted soul./K

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    I posted this in the taper forum, but thought this may be the better spot (also, patience is not a virtue of mine). I am sure this exists in written form somewhere, I just can't seem to find it.

    What is the official band policy for trading in shows that have been officially released? Specifically, I am wondering about the ones that were released officially but are out of print. Seems to me that if they are not for sale currently, we would not be costing the band money by trading those shows. In fact, the only folks it would cost are those selling the out of print releases at a profit on the secondary market. Just curious what the official policy is on this considering the volume of official releases these days.

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    Yes. I suspect Pig was resting from his short reunion tour with the band in December '71 and fortifying his commitment to sobriety in what had to have been an unfathomably difficult lifestyle change (if not in terms of medical necessity, then certainly in practice).

    "Ace" was recorded from January - March '72, but recall that Pig's alcohol-related health problems forced a touring hiatus in August '71 that culminated with hospitalization in September for bleeding ulcers, hepatitis, and spleen problems. He was only able to rejoin the Dead beginning early December in Boston, at which time I recall Phil describing Ron as shockingly frail in his book. Not surprisingly, Pig's contributions are limited, and while progressively more energetic throughout the month (at least to my ears), they are still anemic by historical standards; though by NYE he sounds beat.

    In retrospect, it's a miracle that the Dead community (once and future) got Pig back in functional form for the brilliantly recorded European tour, especially given how quickly he dropped off radar for related health problems afterward.

    EDIT: And yes, "sabbatical" serves as a neat and entirely appropriate bit of shorthand in conversation among those who know....

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    essentially it was a dead album with everyone on board contributing except for Micky who was on a sabbatical, (as i see it) and Pig, why wasnt Pig contributing? was he too sick at the time?

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    RE: NYE '69

    CC, your post invites a bit of confusion by suggesting that you saw both the Dead and TSOC on the same NYE bill at Winterland in '69; though 50 years is an understandably long time. It's hard to imagine, but the Dead were not playing on a West Coast home field that December 31st, and were rather in the midst of an odd eastbound triptik that took them to Dallas on 12/26, Hollywood (FL) on 12/28, and the Boston Tea Party on 12/29-30, while closing out at the Fillmore East on 1/2-3/70.

    Indeed, the '69 NYE playbill on the poster you linked does not name the Dead. So TSOC and the GoGD were on opposite coasts at the decade's close. In any event, here's a link to a CM SBD for the Dead's '69 NYE show:
    https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1969/12/31?source=87994

    Incidentally, I couldn't find a poster for Boston NYE, but here's one from the night before (it would appear the promo dept. missed the spirit of the "grateful" dead; you'd think an impossibly early incarnation of Maiden was playing that night!):
    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_YQBsfGwVEeo/TUSkqEWWy3I/AAAAAAAARQs/qRvbGdWK_…

    However, you are correct that the Dead played NYE '70 at Winterland, but, consistent with the playbill cited in Deadbase50, the following promo poster does not show TSOC on the same stage, but rather NRPS, "assorted friends" (apparently Hot Tuna), and Stoneground (note also, "lights by Little Princess 109").
    https://img0.etsystatic.com/030/0/8448089/il_570xN.542921874_q4nc.jpg

    Checking Deadbase, here's a link to what seems the complete NYE '70 show; however, it appears to be mix of AUD and FM broadcast that provides poor sound quality through Cumberland (even so, the Truckin' opener is well worth a listen), but thankfully improves in time for the set's highlights at Cryptical and China>Rider through close at UJB.
    https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1970/12/31?source=88719

    Regardless of which show you attended, either would've been a great way to kick off your own personal attendance record! Got a story?/K

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    Thanks for sharing this post i really like this post

  • DaveStrang
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    You may want to post this on the Dave's Picks 31 thread so more people see it. Most folks are there.

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    I can not find the 1st GD…

    I can not find the 1st GD show I attended anywhere in GD archives. No GD archive lists the same bands that I saw that night, as confirmed by the Sons archive which has the poster from that night:

    <<Wednesday, December 31, 1969: '1969 New Years Eve 1970', Winterland 2000 Post Street at Steiner Street, San Francisco, California
    The band was billed only as 'The Sons' on the poster printed for this show. Also on the bill: Quicksilver Messenger Service, Jefferson Airplane, Hot Tuna. Lights by Brotherhood of Light. This show, from 8:00pm to 8:00am, was promoted by Bill Graham Presents In San Francisco.>>
    http://brunoceriotti.weebly.com/the-sons-of-champlin.html

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    How do I update my address…

    How do I update my address for my Dave's subscription? Want to make sure #31 gets safely home!

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    limited releases logic explained

    Could you please explain the logic of "limited releases" as it applies to an "alternative" business model, such as the grateful dead" The "limited release" model is a concept taken from the good old music biznezz, in order to promote sales, keep prices high, and maintain collector value of limited products.
    I "missed" the window for daves pick's 30, a rare release from the year 1970, the first show that I recorded 1/3/70. I was disappointed, but managed to get one on a record/cd selling site. I paid double, but I still saved $$$, as I do not want to purchase a "subscription" to the daves picks yearly releases, as I am primarily interested in obtaining music from the 1966-1970 period, and not many releases are from these years. I guess I could always buy a subscription, and then sell off the unwanted items on another site for a profit, which is what this concept does, encourages a "black market". I do not consider this to be "progressive" in the least. I would rather purchase through GDCORP, as I have in the past, but if GDCORP wants to encourage this type of atmosphere, I am forced to participate in order to get what I want, and I am grateful to the sellers who have made it possible to get what I want. But it sure seems contrary to what Jerry's idea of business was.

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I agree. I also nuke several hundred spammer accounts per day, fwiw.
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There doesn't seem to be a Grateful Dead Hour posted this week. gdh1014 from 02-17-2010 is the latest I find.lethedoom
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Marye, that is supposed to be the current one, but the link you put up doesn't work and it says last week still on this end too!_____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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now it's doing it. Weird!
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or aliens, mebbe
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I can't get it to happen consistently, but it did just disappear when I logged out. Came back eventually, but it's weird. I've reported this to the tech folks.
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Must be the Jerry Magic! _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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I'm curious about how to record shows by Phil & Friends, Furthur, and who ever. You used to need a ticket for the "Tapers Section" but how is that all handled now? do you just show up at a show with your gear and they just let you in ? Check Out My Orignal Music at myspace.com/salaversano
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My son is 5 and has been jonesing to join me at a show, I decided the next outdoor show I would let him join in! SO we are going to 6.26 @ MCU in Brooklyn. My question is, Are there any age allowances like children under 3 dont need to have a ticket or anything...I got him a ticket already, just curious...Thanks
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If one had a unique idea and is looking to license grateful dead trademarks for these unique products... where would I look or who could I speak to?
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and I'll put you in touch with licensing.
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when we post a picture in fan photos, why only our avatars appear and not a user name?
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but I agree it's odd.
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Is there a way to find a post I made without "manually" looking for it? Thanks, Henry
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not really. If you can remember a distinctive phrase in the post, put it in quotes and use the search tool on the upper left. That's about it.
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Thanks, I think I know the answer to this one, but is there a way to get email notification on replies to one's posts? Too much to ask?? H
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it's not wired that way.
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I think Mr. David Gans is on the Road playing somewhere today ;-) That's my guess._____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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but then you'd get everything in which that username appeared. You can't search for posts BY someone, but you can search for their name. If you can remember a distinctive phrase in the search you're probably going to have better luck searching for that.
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I see that RARE CUTS AND ODDITIES is available from the GD store again. That's "grate" for everyone who would still like to have a copy at the reasonable issue price rather than going on eBay or Amazon and paying a premium to get the CD but it would be nice if when a CD goes out of print there was a notation in the store listings that it is scheduled to be re-issued or has been discontinued. Would it be that difficult to have a list of "out of print" discs that are not scheduled for a re-issue?I, for one, would like to know if several of the Dick's Picks volumes, which are currently unavailable, will be re-issued.
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I don't know, but good thought and I'll pass it on.
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This site is becoming a popular destination for spammers. They are now making posts in an effort to hock their wares. See page 23 of the Philly '89 Now Available release pages and the post by jerrym. You can tell they are spammers because they are always new members for less than a day. Is there any way to prevent this?
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Marye's job to clean them up since there is no way to boot them preemptively...
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I'm sure there are ways around it but at least they'd have to work harder. I can see the drawback being those legit users that just don't know the answers. Nonetheless, you are on to something. Good thinking, kudos.
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This is a great idea, I too, have noticed the increased spammer presience and a question to answer would be ideal, there are so many to choose from, it could be changed every 3 to 6 months, multiple choice:strangers stopping strangers just to________ a. say hello b. smoke a bowl c. dance and twirl d. shake hands the list is endless:) what a great idea.
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Our new friend Ric-Paris wishes to know where it might be possible to find a version of that tune, from the Terrapin Station album. Any help with his quest would be greatly appreciated.Merci! ********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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Is there any way to edits one's posts for embarassing mistakes, AFTER they have been posted.PLEASE & THANK YOU! JimmieJi
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JimmieJi, very good question. I've had a couple of posts where I wish I could have edited them. But, unfortunately there is no way to do it brother. I must say, that this always makes me think even harder about my posts, and what I've written. So I guess it does help in that sense...but once you press post comment it's set in dead.net stone. A few suggestions for when you post here though: 1. Always preview comment ~ to see how it's gonna post, this will help 2. Proofread your comments, although there is a built in spell checker reread what you write. 3. Sometimes on long posts I'll copy and paste into Notepad because there is nothing more frustrating than writing a big post and accidentally hitting forward or back in the browser and your post is gone. 4. Always have fun! Hope this helps! ~CC _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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You mean the extended version or 2004 reissue of the Terrapin Station album with the 16 minute Dancing at the end of the disc? Released - 1977 Original Label - Arista A re-mastered version was initially released as part of the box-set, Beyond Description on Oct. 26, 2004 on Rhino. Released individually March 2006 You can buy the extended version on the album, I just checked on itunes for $9.99 or I'm sure you can find it on Amazon or somewhere else. Hope this helps our new friend. ;-) _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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Has any decision been made to bring back the Download Series???I am still missing 3 of the shows and want to buy them... Hopefully they will get re-posted? Anyone?? Also, I purchased some '09 shows.. but cd artwork was never included. Is this ever going to be posted either? Woudl love to get the real artwork, since so many other downloads here have it, or have had it.
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Hello,I would like to know if, according to copyrights, I am allowed to do my own Shirt with using at least the Steal Your Face logo on its backside by uploading this logo to this website: www.spreadshirt.com I DO NOT WANT to make this Shirt on this website to sell it (even through a web t-shirt shop). I only would like to create and make only one personnal shirt for me. May you give me further information if such operation is illegal or not according to pending licences on this logo. Best Regards. (Sorry for my bad english written, I am French !)
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It's available on amazon.com apparently... but only in MP3 format... makes no sense why it's not here any more.Makes more sense to have people pay for it here, than download it from amazon, or leech it off a bit-torrent site....
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I would just like to say, don't worry about your written english, it is much better than many college graduates in the U.S.
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so true, and meanwhile I'm checking with the licensing folks as to the protocols here.
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how do I go about deleting my acct.I google my name and this showed up along with my email and some private info I created two years ago, forgot about now I'm trying to delete my acct. - ?
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send me a PM with the request and I'll delete the account. Sorry to see you go though.
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I would encourage the band to make all the rehearsal shows available for download. I and I think a lot of folks would love to get this music. The music this band is making is pleasing a lot of folks like shows haven't done at least for me since the 70's and a few good years in the 80's. The energy level is high and it shows in the music they are making. All downloads do not have to be 3 discs. May 28 fit on 2 discs with GDTRFB fitting at the end of dics 1. Mayeb they could package all the shows together. Thank you..Big Moe
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why is it when I come to this site (and I have an account) there is no music? Shouldn't there be some streaming of great dead music when I come here?! Its about the music after all! I have really considered buying the winterland 1973 (nov 10) cd package but how can I preview o make sure it is the cd of the tape I owned so long ago? Any suggestions? Archive dot org removes it when there is a commercial release (fair enough) but how can I have a quick listen before buying? Its not on iTunes... any suggestions? Also, Dead.net should consider a format like iTunes where you can have a quick preview of songs....(but not sell by the song!!! never go there!)
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Marye, thought you were gonna check on the Download series availability? Just looking to see if there's any plans. Would like to get the flacs, and I'm sure so many others would too. I can't see how it actually costs the company money to keep a link online... it's revenue generating. I can get the mp3's from amazon (no thanks) and so may forums have the bittorrents but that's just stealing. Why can't legit customers get the product? makes little sense to me.... Still would love to get the artwork for the cd's too.. not sure why that seems to be such a hard thing to acquire too.
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Just about the entire GD catalogue including the Download Series and Rare Cuts and Oddities can be purchased online in FLAC or MP3 or ALAC from: http://www.livedownloads.com/live-music/3,461/Grateful-Dead-mp3-flac-do… you can download the front cover from that site too. If you want all the artwork send me a pm and I will tell you where to find it Why you can buy there releaes from livedownlaods and not from here beats me..but at least they can be found somewhere!