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    I enjoyed reading your heartfelt comments. I tend to agree with you in most aspects except BK's unfortunate comment and JK's playing. In the first three shows in Oakland JK did some jamming that blew my mind. Then it was like a few gigs and a lot of rehearsal to put a collar on him. In other words, Phil & Bob want the spotlight and they're not giving much to JK as much as a lot of us would love it. Respect for Jerry? Nahh, that would not be the way Jerry would want to be honored. Chimeti, Russo & Lane are a bit more than adequate and the back-up singers add a spritz but nobody ever said this was the Grateful Dead. The Dead 09 had the Rhythm Devils and a stellar lead guitar and they sucked big time while we paid double. Maybe the drummers are just tired of playing Dead music. Lastly, if you never had the chance to see a Grateful Dead show, here you can have a taste of what it used to be like. Maybe that hit wouldn't be big enough for you. Certainly not for me. But as I get older and I can see the music and whats left of the original characters slowly fade away -- sort of like NFA to end a show then the band and the crowd letting that fade bleed out, I appreciate something more about the evolution of musicians and how times have changed. Take what is for what it is and go with it or don't go. ~Believe it if you need it or leave it if you dare ~
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    But the Mnt View cops have destroyed the once fabled and hallowed Shoreline parking lot. Their presence was obnoxious - driving around, walking around, under cover, circling the perimerters with binoculars, completely shutting down vending, sniffing cups for alcohol - SHEESH!! I have never seen anything like it ANYWHERE. What a shame. What the hell happened?? Thank god for an upcoming Red Rocks run where we won't get hassled by the man. Rant over. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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    For me, stuck as i am in London as present, though soon Yokohama bound (nope, they probably won't play there either), it's only footage of Furthur online that allows me to witness their music in a live context. Some good ones too; see here - http://www.vimeo.com/user4180524Difficult to really gauge music when not feeling the air being pushed; that beautiful loop of participatory energy between audience and artist; that tactile quality of sound as it travels in waves through the ether. Completely different medium to the computer screen, high-end speakers or not. But until my wife and i's visit to that mad Head in Oakland, it will have to suffice. The result? Jury's out...... Some moments do shine brightly, no doubt; the sheer enjoyment of their faces can carry you through; some exquisite jams certainly and it's still early days (hopefully). Their commitment to improvisation unquestionable. And yet, so far, that feeling of slight indifference; an unconnectedness that draws me (kicking and screaming) out of the "zone", seems to permeate every experience thus far. And i wonder, just why is that? What breaks the spell at that moment when you are about to enter deep space? What slowly envelopes the Soul, like an encroaching blanket of feather-like fog? What is that voice that gently breaks you out of a cushion of bliss, to bring you back to the material world with a lingering feeling of disappointment and mild disillusionment? I read a review this morning on Jambase of Furthur's June 3rd show at Shoreline; there was a quote of Phil, upon acknowledgment of the audience, saying "without whom, the music couldn't get this weird". True, i wasn't at the show; i haven't seen any video, or heard any audio. But i wonder just how "weird" was it? So far, none of the music or footage i've experienced has paid a visit to those shores. Some inspired moments certainly, but really? Weird? Reading the February/March 2006 issue of Relix, Bob Weir, annoyed at the reception a "jazz diversion" in a Ratdog show was received by the audience, the "Deadheads who went limp", said "I hate those guys, they only like it when it's an old Dead song". Now truly stretching out into a more experimental, more "out" territory may well not be Furthur's basic modus operandi. Fair enough, absolutely. Personally, i only want the musicians, ANY artist to fulfill THEIR creative urges, EVERY SINGLE TIME. I don't want to be pandered too; I want them to take THEIR music in any direction that their muse requires, no, DEMANDS. As long as it's from the heart, then complete respect is deserved every time. And i give it to them always. But, for me? I'm left a little wanting. This could well change in the future, of course. I've always found different locations, different hours of the day or night, different settings and different emotional states can produce vastly different results. And trust me, i'm in it for the long haul, i assure you. Now this next bit might be more appropriate in a different post; kinda new here (not to the Dead or this site), but recently felt the urge to dip one's toe in this black muddy river. Could my nagging emotional response to Furthur be down to the drums and guitar? Honestly? I think it is. From the bottom of my heart; not an ounce, a drip, a molecule, an amoeba (nothing against amoebas), a speck or a fleck of disrespect against Joe Russo or John Kadlecik, but this is where the contribution to "beigeness" lies. I just don't get an emotional payoff with these two. Could happen of course, as i said, but so far? Sad to say, no. And i don't even know why this is so. But once that suspicion creeps in, maybe analysis is pointless and a fool's errand. It presented itself and i have to acknowledge it. Drums: In other contexts, Joe has impressed. But i just don't know. Something is missing. It's all there and yet it isn't; the limbs moving but the journey tethered to the point of departure. My own wish to see.... Glenn Kotche? (Tony Williams? bless his SOUL). Hamid Drake? Chris Corsano? Jean-Paul Gaster? (in that pocket but jam to spare....) Claude Coleman Jr.? Tatsuya Yoshida? Gerry Hemmingway? Guillermo E. Brown? prime time Jack DeJohnette? Junzo Tateiwa? Steve Gorman? Gerald Cleaver? Guitar?....whoa......... I have to say i'm with Bill Kreutzmann on this regarding Furthur's approach and veiled reference to John. Although, his comments, that still show up in a google search of Jambands as headers, was wildly and shamefully taken out of context/exaggerated; he has said on many an occasion the respect he has for Furthur. I have read it. Lets hope others take the time to do the same. True, true, he might grow (and i truly hope so) into demonstrating a more personal form of expression, taking greater artistic control (and license) with the Dead material. Who knows what's in store? But can years and years of recreating Jerry's playing really be broken? Can his own inner voice really shine through? Does he have one? Will it be allowed to flower even if he does? What is the greater need for the Furthur followers (and the members themselves)? More of the same with occasional tangents, or real musical liberation within the framework of the Dead's gorgeous material? I know that he must feel an amazing amount of weight on his shoulders; i did think twice before contributing to any additional burden but it's only an opinion. Keep doing what you do John, whatever the outcome (let your life proceed by it's own design). As for an alternative? Well damn, i'll admit that i'm at a loss, still. The balance of down-home grit; earthy resonance and deep emotion to the very core, balanced with abstraction, dark space to the very edge of all that we hold secure; the frightening realm that berates as it inspires; that shatters all our notions of comfort, yet propels us into beauty and blissful uncertainty, strangely ripe with reassurance. The home at the edge of the world; the sunset after the end of the world. A six string equivalent of late period Coltrane. Full of soul, inquisitiveness, spirit and warmth. Brown earth and space dust on the tongue; a honey throat coat in a shimmering void. Maple and Ash. No negativity intended; no mean-spiritedness drifting from my heart. Just a gentle outpouring. Something for my fellow travelers to contemplate, i hope. What say you? A pleasure to swim in this beautiful sea we call DEAD. Responses and private messages/contact welcome. Everyone welcome. All the time. Keep safe everybody.
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    west U.S. tour announced
    Furthur will be doing a tour of the west starting with 3 nights in Eugene, OR. Sept. 23,24,&25, and ending at the Monterrey Co. Fairgrounds Oct. 7 & 8. Hmm...
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    simply put
    One of the best shows I have ever seen! what rain? the band was smoking all night long
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    Great setlist last night! Who was there? Some of us east coasters are eager to live vicariously through your experiences!We're looking forward to Mansfield in July, and a Bob Weir solo show in Portland ME in August. Oh, and I'm going to my first Phish show on 6/7 - should be fun :)
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    the weather is weird. We have had a good downpour yesterday and today, although neither one lasted long. This is not normal for this time of year at all.
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    looks like rain....
    in mountain view this weekend
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    everybody ready for the next installment?
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I got on the bus about 5 years ago and I am a Dead Head. I spend way too much time reading about them or making lists of my favorite cuts to make a "Best of Brent" era show, best of Keith era etc. Lately it is the Wall of Sound shows that is my new obsession. I post here a lot and feel that this group of people are truly friends. The Further show Feb 4th changed my life. The vibe was strong even my wife and daughter spoke about it. The band was so tight. I was close to the stage-- my heroes Phil and Bob were less than 30 feet away and they were rockin. I danced and sang and felt connected with everyone there. I couldn't believe I could dance for 2 hours but I did and laughed and talked with so many great people. It was a very unique feeling. When the first chords of Terrapin Station were played my wife and I looked at each other smiled and hugged- she was so happy they were playing our song. The guy playing lead and singing Jerry is the best . I left there with such a feeling of happiness that I finally know what the Grateful Dead are all about. Thanks Phil and Bobby! And the road goes on forever.... BobbaLee
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Thank you Mary E! I've been looking for some Furthur discussion, not limited only to news announcements - the talk tends to get a bit fractured and forgotten that way. There are several threads at Phil Zone, & Ratdog.com, no discussions on furthur.net, but it seems natural for there to be a forum here. Caught my only Furthur show at Cornell. What a beauty. Mellow like the town of Ithaca. The love vibe was ripe that night for v-day. They Love Each Other and Unbroken Chain were my highlights. John was great... still enjoyed the Dead with Warren @ MSG more cuz it was such a killer show. So, who's going on Summer Tour? Guess you Mountain Aire folks will have lots to talk about first. It's Highland Bowl and ArtPark for me =) See you on the road!
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Also hittin' Highland bowl and Artpark... welcome Deadheads from near and far!! We are so lucky to be still able to chase the magic after all these years!!
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Which is where I saw several killer Grateful Dead shows. The show was the best I've attended in years. Got to go with both my sons and it was a great experience. Really loved the "We Bid you Goodnight" encore. First time I've heard it live! I love this band. Hope to see some of you in Philadelphia on 7/11.
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Thanks Marye, I love it. I saw the band grow all this year. First with the 2 shows at the Hammerstein in New York....I hadn't felt that good about a post Jerry band since the older Phil and Friends LIneUps. I remember the amazing feeling of the "It" factor in the music at those shows and every show they've had since the band just grew tighter and tighter. I was supposed to go to the NYE shows, but due to Mom's sickness, I was unable to go, and boy did I miss a doozy. The best part about it, is I rode the "Couch Tour" and listened over the internet. Every show it seemed the band was melding into what they are now....A really tight and amazingly powerful musical entity. As for the neigh sayers of John Kadlecik from DSO, something about a "fake Jerry", are now silent because they understand that he really is a true musician and is channeling Jerry (not being a fake one). No matter who you put in that slot there will always be someone who will say something negative, which is understandable, because we can't replace ((((Jerry)))) ever. SO basically after riding the "Couch Tour" and listening to the band grow, I was able to experience one of the best performances I've seen since 1993 Grateful Dead regarding our family. Chicago March 2nd, and 3rd blew my mind, it was an absolutely epic time. Not only did the band smoke the shows musically, the vibe, the feeling, the energy, and the feeling of being back with the family again was intensely pure. The difference between CHI/NY is astronomical in terms of tightness, which is to be expected with a newly formed band. All I can say is, I haven't felt this way about a band in a long time. And from here they can only get better! Great job Furthur! I can't wait to see yo again @ Mountain Aire! _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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We were fortunate enough to see Furthur in Manchester, Amherst, and at Mohegan Sun, and we love this band! John K is a great addition - he brings a lot of energy and enthusiasm along with his talent. I'm sorry we're losing Jay Lane, but I think the band will still go on strong. Looking forward to seeing them again in Lowell this summer!
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Im lucky enough to have the summer tour roll right through my backyard this year!!! The boys are playing at the beautiful Lalaucher ballpark,(Where the triple A Red-Sox/Lowell Spinners) play -Right up the street from my house..WOO-HOO!!!Ive already designed some sweet Lowell Spinners/Dead themed stickers for the occasion...Hope to see you there...All General Admission...Ball-Park...Furthur....I'LL TAKE IT!!!! (~);} peace
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I've seen Bobby hit the stage 13 times (Phil 11x) in the last 10 months (5x The Dead, 2x Ratdog, 6x Furthur) and to me the most magical part of those 13 shows has been Furthur, maybe not necessarily the "best" line-up but certainly the most magical. Why? Well it has to be John. Then add in that Phil and Bob are sounding and looking grate, playing loose and happy and with purpose it feels like. Add Jeff who very well may be the best Dead piano/keyboardist and Joe Russo who I thought was just such a strong drummer in the shows I caught and last but not least the ladies background voices = a super tight band radiating energy, love and just a real good time. We'll miss you Jay - good luck man! Finally my favorite part about Furthur is that they are full of surprises, one after another. They are just so much fun to see live... Mountain AIre would be so much fun ... man ... hmm.. Really hope to be able to catch some shows this summer. Come on guys - still plenty of slots open for a late summer 2 night (at least) run at Red Rocks ( ~ ) : } "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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I just noticed your comment was right above mine...Thanx for turning me on to this,Sista!!!...See you at the Ballpark!!!
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Jack,Fingers crossed for Red Rocks for you! Twinz, See you in Lowell! (~);}
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But dude, Red Rocks would be awesome! Not to Mention a short stint at Alpine Valley, or even helping the folks out down south in Texas, or who knows maybe even a new outdoor venue. I'm hoping everyone gets to see this band. Especially those who have been deprived! _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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So Jay Lane is going to Primus (wohooo in my opinion I love that band) but we are going back to the days of a single drummer here....what do you all think. I really like the idea, but also think Molo would fit perfect here._____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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Interesting subject you bring up, Critter. When it comes to Furthur, everyone focuses on the change in guitarist, but few comment on the changes in the rhythm section. My partner and I were lamenting the thinner sound, like the rug had been pulled out from under many songs that really require the rhythmic power that only Billy & Mickey could provide. Even with Jay, the sound of the band seemed thin compared to two drummers. That sound is so unique and a major part of what I love about the Gdead. What it lacked in consistency they made up for in sheer power. Bobby & Mickey had something really special there. Just adding another drummer, great as Molo or Russo are, may not necessarily work. It takes time to get in synch and some guys are never gonna be able to share that role. It changes the way you approach drumming - you have to play less and intuit more. Tricky. Very few people can pull it off. And I, personally, like B&M's unconventional approach to drumming better than listening to a standard drummer. It just makes the music seem too ordinary to me which is a weird feeling! Also, I miss the Drums>Space part. I know this is no longer the Dead, but it's good to have room for free-form improvisation that is not just jamming out a tune, especially if they're digging up such tricky compositions. Just my opinion! (Though it is a musician's opinion =)
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planning to go to lowell:) looking forward indeed.......... hugs family:)
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Seems if they wanted to add another drummer that person should be more of a percussionist than what Molo would bring to the table. Not sure him and Russo would be the best pairing. One or the other sure but not together. I think Russo does great and Furthur is its own band not the Grateful Dead so in my opinion they don't always have to try to match the exact GD sound. "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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Well good, cuz I totally agree with you both that having one drummer will be special, and it's a different band and approach. I'm a percussionist as well, and I would love to see the Rythym Devils with Furthur, but I think with this band, the new "fresh" approach" really works. If you go back and listen to the single drummer approach with just Billy (I love Mickey!) it is really unique and powerful in it's own way. So in essence I'm torn between "just copying the GD sound" as jackstraw put it, which I do not at all think they are doing, with two drummers or just expanding that musical horizon with one. I mean if you listen to the Venetta shows....listen to how stretched out and jammy it is with only a single drummer....Awesome. http://www.archive.org/details/gd72-08-27.sbd.braverman.16582.sbefail.s… Also, I really miss drumz/space even if it's somewhat abbreviated...I was always the one who didn't go to the bathroom at this point at a GD show. SO I think one drummer will be awesome with Furthur! _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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Hey Critter - so you're a percussionist, eh? I think between you and me and JackStraw we could add some pretty great sounds in there. Furthur should definitely consider hiring us! P.S. I like Primus too. Go Jay!
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we DO have a Les Claypool topic that would benefit from your input...
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You would not I repeat would not want to hear ME play the drums! :-) "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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Nuf said - you just dance the chicken dance, k?
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as long as i get to be the dog!!
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"Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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enjoy your hometown show!(~);-}
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But both CO shows were off the charts. The Bertha, Brown-Eyed Women, Looks Like Rain, Estimated Prophet > Lady with a Fan > Terrapin on 3/5 and the Bird Song > Alligator > Bird Song > Dark Star > Time > Dark Star > Morning Dew on 3/6 were out of this world mind boggling good. However I still think nothing beats the 2 New years shows. "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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Rarf? Throws a giant cookie in the air ~~~~~~~~~~~~>>>>> _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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thanx!!!
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wagwagwagwagwagwag!
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Bertha at Mohegan Sun really blew me away! It's so hard to narrow down a favorites list - top three, five, twelve?? But whatever size the list, Bertha's always one of the top tops for me! I thought the whole show was amazing, with a great set list from start (The Other) to finish (US Blues).Hey, did any one else read the small Furthur article in Rolling Stone? I have to admit that I was a bit taken aback by Bobby's comments that he and Phil were "boldly pursuing new musical directions onstage, and some of the guys weren't picking up on it. Phil and I are way more current." This was said in reference to Bill & Mickey not being a part of Furthur. I thought that was kind of mean spirited, and not really true. It also seemed like such a slam, that I feel like there's little chance of them ever sharing the stage with Bill & Mickey again. Sigh. I think that these comments were better left unsaid to the media, even if that's what he was thinking.
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hey Rosa - do you have the link for that interview? Couldn't find it in Rolling Stone's search engine.
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For over 45 years. It is understandable that not everyone is on the same page all the time. Think of the people you work with - do you always agree with them? Do they annoy you here and there (or maybe all the time)? Especially after working with them for many years? They are just like us when it comes to the daily grind. It can't always be hugs and flowers there is bound to be disagreements and even hard feelings. Just becasue they are members of the Grateful Dead doesn't mean they are immune from being regular people. Heck really tight family members squabble here and there. It's a normal thing, they are all adults, I doubt Billy and Mickey are going to waste a lot of time sulking and thinking "Bob Weir hurt my feelings". "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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If we're going to compare what is more current in terms of bold, new musical direction... I would have to say that Mickey wins every time. Planet Drum, Mystery Box, sounds of the universe... please! And Bill and Mickey will be touring with Rhythm Devils this summer, which should be all new voodoo...
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Gonna be interesting thing when we go to Wanee....a bunch of us are gonna meet up and have SO much fun! The cool thing, guess whos playing besides ABB/Govt Mule???? 7 Walkers Featuring Bill Kreutzmann and Papa Mali then 5 hours later (Friday) Scaring the Children with Bob Weir, Rob Wasserman, & Jay Lane!!!....I think they will kiss and make up then. We are a family, we do have our squabbles amongst us, but the love is there. Plus, it's Rolling Stone, how many times have they taken things out of context? Bobby does tend to put his foot in his mouth sometimes, but hey like jstraw said, we are all human. Let's Go Furthur!!!! See you guys in week! Weeeeeeeeeeeee _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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BOB! When if ever, will you get the words to Truckin' right? just wondering.... didn't you help write it, for the love of Jerry?
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Anyone see the story about Furthur in the new issue of Rolling Stone? I did, and it really rubbed me the wrong way. Bob is quoted as saying he and Phil started Furthur because they are "way more current" than Mickey and Billy, and they were "going in directions that the other guys just couldn't follow onstage." Bob also said that Jerry would have wanted it this way--Bob and Phil ditching the boys that have been there for them for forty years, just to play with a fucking fake Jerry. Yeah, that's what Jerry would have wanted. Just goes to show you what Bob is really made of. Go fuck yourself, Weir.
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Thomasrj! "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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Harsh words to Mr. Weir. Let's not get caught up in that. Kind of wish you read this whole thread first before making that statement. #1 No need to go off on Bobby for saying what he said, I don't think we know the whole story here, I'm sure it wasn't his intention to dis Billy and Mickey. Out of context IMHO. #2 Fake Jerry ~ Like I've mention before, John K. is the real deal and a great musician, highly talented player and singer. Sure he's not Jerry, in fact, like I said before NO ONE can replace him. I'm really glad this band didn't start until 2009 because I can't imagine what kind of crap would be slung if it were in the 90's when we were all still grieving . This band is NOT the Grateful Dead. It does have the spirit of the Dead and I truly believe Jerry would be smiling right now to know that they are taking this music Furthur. _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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Weir's proclivity for foot-in-mouth disease is not news at this point, and I'm sure Billy and Mickey have heard worse. And, of course, Rolling Stone lives to extract such statements and exploit them.
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We're (weir?...heehee) STILL grieving, but i do not think of John as a Jerry clone.....listen closley and you'll realize he is complimenting Jerry, and yet playing far different than him. By putting his own interpretation in the tunes he is continuing the journey.......and mebbe Bob's current foot in mouth affliction will help the shower will dissipate, not that the cookie duster isn't working, of course. Those capri's (clamdiggers?) might be making it easier to chew.
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Couldn't agree more that John is way more than a Jerry clone. He is bringing his own ideas to the music. The Rolling stone comments don't sound the greatest but I agree that they're probably taken somewhat out of context. Bob is entitled to his opinion regardless. He's done a hell of a lot to keep the music going over the years and we should cut him a little slack!
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I couldn't find the article online, sorry. I read it in the old-fashioned paper version of the magazine. It was just a one-pager, but I'm always excited on the rare occasions they print something about a band I actually care about!I guess one of the downsides of fame and fortune is that when you do have a squabble or harsh words, it becomes media fodder. When I do put my foot in my mouth, I get to do so in relative privacy :)
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I stopped purchasing that paper many years ago cuz of all the ad filler and same old tired coverage. But I also appreciate news of Furthur. Thanks for the tip. Sounds like an unfortunate interview! I am such a fan of the drummers, I can't help but feel sympathetic to their cause. I also love Phil and appreciate Bobby, so I'll keep on coming out as long as they keep playing. Boy do I wish the Rhythm Devils were playing anywhere near me, though! (Ontario, Canada) Peace, Kirsten
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I agree, it's most likely out of context, and Bobby does have the unfortunate foot-in-mouth gene...it just sets me off whenever I see tension like that between any of the boys. I guess after forty-plus years that's all you can really expect.
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Did you say you were going to Lowell?
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That was Scottishlass & GratefulTwinz going to Lowell. I'll be truckin up (or down, depending how you look at it) to Buffalo and Rochester. Gotta head south of the border to go FURTHUR>>>>> It'd be nice to dance with you though!
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Despite whatever context Bob said whatever about Bill/Mick, there has always been different currents among members of the band that have been, on the whole, healthy. My feeling these days is that the Rhythm Devils/7 are going to be more original, while Phil & Bob have chosen to go "Golden Oldies". Despite my labels here I just want to say I love it all and the fact we still have such a vibrant scene to choose from. It's nice to see all the boys playing such appropriate venues too. ~ meet you at the jubilee ~
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You summed it up very well. I love the music in all its forms. Just hope it keeps on in one form or another!
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what tphokie1 said
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Gosh I love what they are doing as well. I just saw both Bobby and Billy @ the Wanee Music Festival....they played very, very well. Both of them! I was more impressed with Billy's 7 Walkers feat. Papa Mali, they played flawlessly! Bobby was very, very good and relaxed (it almost seemed like someone dos-ed him b4 the show, hehehehehe) but the set was TOO short IMHO. As far as the Rythym Devils....Check this festival out where they are playing if you are coming down...

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