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    Holy S#%*! It’s the COMPLETE Europe ’72 Box! On Over 60 Discs!

    $450.00
    Europe '72:
    The Complete Recordings


    Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

    After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


    - David Lemieux


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    Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

    Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

    This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

    Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

    Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

    The packaging is, as you might expect, first rate. Each show is its own Digipak, with its own liner notes by top Dead scholars (including David Gans, Steve Silberman, and Nicholas Meriwether) and attendees of some of the concerts, and many never-before-seen photos. Additionally, there is an enormous book worthy of coffee table treatment featuring hundreds more photos and a comprehensive essay by yours truly (Blair Jackson). The box will also contain other memorabilia and ephemera from the tour.

    A rough sketch of the potential packaging.
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    At $450, this clearly will not be a box for everyone. In fact, this individually numbered boxed set will be limited to orders placed with a maximum of 7,200 boxes produced. As a special bonus, the first 3,000 orders will receive a personalized copy. Due to the huge manufacturing costs (wait 'til you see it! We're doing something unlike any other boxed set release ever! It's exceptional!!), we need to hit 3,000 sales before we even go into production. If we don't reach 3,000 by April 1st, the boxed set won't be able to happen. This isn't a gun-to-your-head sales pitch. Rather, we want to be open with you about the realities of this release's massive scope and ambition.

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    So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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    chriss
    12 years 11 months ago
    Still waiting......
    3 months in and I still do not have my set. Keep getting BS e-mails from GD. AND! I have been told my package in in Maryland, about 20 miutes from where I lived until a week ago. Bunch a jokers...and NOT in a good way.
  • unkle sam
    12 years 11 months ago
    Great advice Anna
    except, you do not have to return defective merchandise, let rhino eat this charge, you normally have 60 days to dispute the charge, if you are one of the many that got crap and was promised gold, dispute, let rhino know that we, as the best customers in the world, will not stand for broken promises and crappy product and shitty customer service. It' a real shame when you have to ask the moderator on a web site to fix your order, hats off to Marye, I hope you ask for and receive a large raise for what you do. You are the only ray of light on this website in these dark times. "One way or another, one way or another, one way or another, this darkness' got to give"
  • Anna rRxia
    12 years 11 months ago
    Response to last poster's question:
    While I couldn't afford to buy the E72 set, my heart certainly goes out to those poor deadheads who went ahead anyway and threw it on the credit card ("Put it on the plastic and I wonder where we'll be when the bills hit.") based on that unbelievable three pages of hype written by Blair Jackson. You just knew there was going to be a lot of Fubar. Well, this one set the all-time record for Fubar with nary a word of apology to the faithful who plunked down their hard-earned cash. Rhino grossed millions of dollars from sales, whole and partial of this "limited" edition. They could have done more press runs of those digi thingies and devoted one person to inspecting incoming defectives and replacing them. Inside of this replacement package would be two more things -- another piece of ephemera. The second? A letter of apology with a peel off at the bottom with your number and personalization. Doing all of that, they still would have made millions. Instead, there was no uniform policy on anything and nobody devoted to correcting the endless errors. If you truly want your money back, mail the set back postage due and dispute the charge on your credit card. It's a shame it has to come to this.
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$450.00
Europe '72:
The Complete Recordings


Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


- David Lemieux


Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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After reading some of the posts above, I didn't believe it, but I checked and it's true - there are already sets on ebay!!! I am not going to put into print what I am thinking. Peace
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I just did a search of completed sales on EBay: One sold for $1250 one for $900!From an investment standpoint, this is amazing, no wonder they sold out so fast!
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They may be selling to scum in a bucket, babeBut at least they're enjoying the profits.
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so.... after six days with no bite, i went to ebay and paid exactly double the price for a personalized copy (there was some haggling involved). if it were just for me, i'd have bagged the deal but it's for my boyfriend for next christmas. ironically, less than an hour after we sealed the deal, i got the email from dead.net confirming my reservation for the *music only* copy. this was a debt-enducing venture but for the look on his face when he sees it, worth its weight in gold! i'm conflicted about also purchasing the music only version... from an ethical (not commercial) standpoint, it should be cheaper... all the same, should i buy it as a back-up plan?
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A Lost Kid Name....you didn't address the case that if this hadn't been limited, the sales of this set would have taken ALOT more time to reach 7200 units sold as most people would've waited until whenever they wanted to or could afford the $450.00. Making limited edition or time limited runs ensures immediate purchasing and instant cash generation while having non-limited products will see slower purchasing as consumers shop for better deals and/or purchasing way down the line. Also,a product this huge requires alot of continual resources (re: $$$) to keep this in print in perpetuity.
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Not sure how this happened or who was involved, but like others I received an email a short while ago to purchase Europe '72. Guess we all just had to take a step back, and like someone said earlier, they are trying to get it just exactly perfect. Process hasn't been fun but seems to be working. However, I do suggest Rhino/Dead come clean with us regarding whether they increased the limited editions (7200 or 3000 or whatever). Really neither here nor there to me, but given how poorly they handled this along the way, I think it's best to let us know how they fixed this so that there's full transparency, from a customer relations standpoint. But if not, I'll just enjoy the music and hope in the future they pre-plan better and in the event there's an issue, have better damage control measures in place. Thanks again to anyone behind the scenes who help mitigate this unfortunate situation.
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Ironman88 writes: Hey, even if there were 72,000 copies of this out there, I could almost guarantee that I would be the only kid on my particular block that had one and no one else on my block would even give a rats arse and, I'm only too sure that my wife (in whose opinion I don't need another single CD yet alone another 60 Grateful Dead CDs) would rather I just shove it up my own And he is oh so right. My wife can't believe there are really 7,200 Deadhead willing to drop $450 on this. I have all Dead discs listen to the Sirius GD station constantly She thoguht I was the only one. HA!!!!. I will be the only kid on my block with one of the E72 box sets. My favorite era, I'd pay whatever it takes. You ain't gonna learn, what you don't wanna know......
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stargazer: "It is still amazing to me that so many people would buy these releases when the music is already out there unless its an investment to sell later" My take on this is that the music is on the (allegedly forthcoming) CDs is not "already out there" in a practical sense. Yes, I can stream certain performances from 1972 in MP3 format from the Internet Archive for free (how long is that going to last?). Yes, I still have a bunch of cassette tapes of my favorite shows. Yes, I have some copies of CDs of shows from the tour that were ripped from the archive when you could still download lossless. Yes, I have the CDs that were already released. But there's still stuff I have never heard in decent sound quality and there's way more stuff that I don't have at all in a semi-permanent format (and that I would like to have). At this point the only way to ensure that I do reliable easy access to the music in its best available sound quality is to (1) buy this frigging set; (2) scrounge the Internet for the best copies available (I don't have time) or (3) wait until the set is released and then dub all the stuff I want from someone else (again, don't have time). Of course, we could flash forward to some point in the not-too-distant future when it will take an hour or less to copy a file comprising the entire contents of these CDs from one small portable device to another. Then my complaints about time will seem very silly indeed.
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dilbert "you didn't address the case that if this hadn't been limited," You're right. That's because it's beside the point, which I made quite clear in my original comment. "Making limited edition or time limited runs ensures immediate purchasing and instant cash generation while having non-limited products will see slower purchasing as consumers shop for better deals and/or purchasing way down the line." Thank you. I took Economics 101 in college. You think the Dead/Rhino did this because they were in some sort of cash crisis? C'mon. "a product this huge requires alot of continual resources (re: $$$) to keep this in print in perpetuity." Nobody is asking anyone to keep the box set or any other release in print for perpetuity. See my original comment and note above about unlimited releases being "beside the point."
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I have absolutely no problem paying $450 for the box set but I can't see paying the same price without all the goodies. I put in my email to be reminded when to purchase and I NEVER received an email telling me it was time and I lost out. If you are going to release just the cd's, lower the cost....Come on!!!
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A Lost Kid NameDo a bit of research on torrents. Then do some research on sites that have live music torrents. Then search them for GD or whatever else you are looking for and you will be AMAZED! I found my first concert ever (AC/DC from 1979) as well as the concert I met my wife (GD Autzen 1993) plus hundreds of hours of juicy amazing diverse live music. Check these sites every so often and you WILL find every GD show with sometimes like 6 different mixes or sources for a single show! Including surround sound, aud/sbd matrixes, 24 bit, 16 bit everything! Pass on this GIFT of information because there are recordings of hundreds of different bands that would NEVER be heard otherwise! Dig it!
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I think this really goes without saying but here goes anyways. Be careful about purchasing these from ebay. My gut tells me that anyone who ordered beyond what they reserved is going to have the extras deleted from their order. At this point they will not be able to honor your purchase and already have your money and most likely spent it. Good luck getting it back. I would definately wait until September if you must have the whole box. Personally, I would just purchase the Music Only version. It has what you really want anyways.
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A Lost Kid Name... Rhino needing $$ you ask, it appears the answer is yes: Warner Music Group Corp.'s Rhino Entertainment Company Plans Layoffs 09/7/2010 Another sweeping round of layoffs is planned at Warner Music Group's Rhino Entertainment division this month. Rhino - whose name was once synonymous with high-end reissue packages and imaginative cross-licensed releases - is plotting a course to move further into the digital realm. The cuts will strike most deeply in departments dedicated to the production and marketing of physical product, said sources with knowledge of the plans. While the extent of the new cuts is not known, it is expected to be a substantial number of the division's remaining 100 employees. If you know anything about Rhino you know that they specialize in Limited Edition products, so this being limited should be expected.
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I'm smiling because they are starting to do the RIGHT thing as witnessed by people receiving e-mails now that state: "In fairness to your fellow Dead Heads, we cannot accept orders for additional copies in excess of the number you previously reserved. Any copies in excess of what you have already reserved will be deleted from your order." This is how it should have been from the beginning. You reserve one copy, you can only order one copy. I have to assume, the reason people are starting to get e-mails with codes again is because people who got codes earlier, where they seemingly could order as many boxes as they wanted, are getting their orders shaved (assuming there were people who selfishly did go ahead and order more than the reserved). I know this still doesn't make things 100% in the eyes of the people who got totally shut out, but it is a step in the right direction. Here's hoping everyone who reserved a copy of the box set (legitimately reserved a copy) get what they are looking for. Let's also hope that any A$$@!les who ordered extra just to sell on ebay get their orders cut back to one copy. To Marye, Dead.net, etc. - thank you for finally seeing the light and attempting to do the right thing. I now wait for September when the ONE copy I reserved and ordered is shipped.
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After having despaired and put in a reserve for the strip downed model 24hrs ago +and not having heard back anything I was ready to post "what do I have to do?" At 3:20pst an email arrived with my special code. The address has "personalization-page" Does this mean I'm getting one of the first 3000?
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I did not receive an email confirmation when I reserved a copy this past weekend. Called CS this afternoon and was told the codes were all gone. I can't tell you how bummed out I've felt over the last few days about this box set. Somehow this afternoon I received an email with the code for my 1 copy. Just placed my order. I have no idea of who I should be thanking for this, but someone came through for me and I just want to say thanks. Now I can listen to the Dead with a smile on my face again. I hope everyone here is as lucky as I am right now. Thank you!!!
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The Dead.net folks tell me they're sending the purchase codes for the standard edition of Europe '72 as we speak! All the codes for those that made the purchase list will be sent over the next 24 hours (they are spacing out the emails to avoid a rush on the vendor's cart and stalling it). I'm also informed that they've set up a standby list for the very few whose reservation requests didn't get in on time for the standard edition. The Dead.net folks are going to do everything in their power to get the people on the standby list on the bus to get a copy of the standard edition, and will pull people off the standby list and onto the purchase list in the order that we received their reservation request, first come, first served. Those on the standby who don't make it onto the purchase list are on the list to buy a Just the Music edition if they wish. Hope this helps clarify things, sorry for all the trouble, and thank you!
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Hey everyone....looks like things are back on track.....hopefully everyone enjoy the music. I was getting frustrated and finally got my code. I guess some things just take time. And be careful of the Ebayers. Because they can only get one copy sent to one address. Good luck to all.
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Well, I placed my order for a personalized edition but strange thing that it was going to allow me to purchase up to 15...and I probably could have kept going. I only ordered one and never intended to purchase more but just wanted to see...now I never took it to the stage to confirm but still very surprised it even allowed me to purchase more than one at this stage, and personalized ones for that matter. Either way, I'll really enjoy listening to these shows come Sept but again, hope they are properly handling this. Fine w/ me if they release more than 7200 but they really need to come clean on this debacle. They should leave no doubt, or as they say: LEAVE NO TRACE. Thanks again for coming through!
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"In fairness to your fellow Dead Heads, we cannot accept orders for additional copies in excess of the number you previously reserved. Any copies in excess of what you have already reserved will be deleted from your order." It's about time Rhino / Dead.Net are doing some damage control and thinking about the Dead Heads. Now it's time go after the eBay sellers and cut back their orders to 1 each.
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I've been reading this thread for days and am glad to see that folks are finally getting their confirmations, codes, etc., and are able to order their box sets. Hats of Marye for reaching out to the community to help solve some issues (page 105, wdovan et al). Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile.
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Thank you from the bottom of my heart for all you've done for us who felt like we were left out. This has been a great day.
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First off let me thank those people responsible for finally seeing the light. I received my code tonight but I'm not sure which set I'm getting. Is it the limited or just the music. Can anyone help me?
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Ok, got my code, placed my order, have a priceless set of music reserved. However, as others have noted, I'm not sure what I ordered. Since I was never given an option to "personalize" my order, I clearly was not one of the first 3000. Then I read a post above from "marye" which leads me to believe I am getting the "standard" version. BUT, what is standard? Lets make this prfectly clear for everyone. First 3000=personalized box set, next 4200=box set, next ????=music only set. Now, does standard =box set or music only set? Personally, I'm thrilled to get it at all but really want to know what to expect. I like all the extra goodies, fingers crossed! Peace & Love to allM7ickey
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I would love to see those selling them on ebay get screwed but in reality it will be people from this community who will get screwed in the end. DON'T BUY IT ON EBAY. Think with your head and not your heart on this one.
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anyone wanna trade a complete fillmore 69 box set for my personalized code for the europe 72 complete set? I aint used yet and its good til the feb. 1st
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Here's the quote I'm talking about from mayre (p.112) "The Dead.net folks tell me they're sending the purchase codes for the standard edition of Europe '72 as we speak! All the codes for those that made the purchase list will be sent over the next 24 hours" Again, please clarify. Thanks
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dilbert "Rhino needing $$ you ask, it appears the answer is yes:" No, I didn't ask if Rhino needed money. I asked if there was money *crisis* such that Rhino and/or Dead needed cash quickly (i.e., in two days rather than, say, a week or two weeks, or even a month). Of course there is absolutely no such cash crisis at Warner/Rhino. Their layoffs etc are simply an attempt to increase profits for shareholders by moving their business out of the meat realm and cutting back on employees, just like so many other US businesses. Buh-bye, employees, join the 10% unemployed! Tough luck. By the way, even if there were a cash crisis (and there certainly isn't), this particular product promotion would have to be the most ill-conceived attempt imagineable of addressing such a crisis. "If you know anything about Rhino you know that they specialize in Limited Edition products, so this being limited should be expected." I know a lot about Rhino and I never expressed any surprise whatsoever that this Europe 72 release should be limited. Again, the issue I was quite clearly addressing in my comments is the *degree* to which the product was limited and the manner in which it was presented for sale. When they issued their "handmade" edition of Judy Sill reissue CDs, they managed to press 2500 of those. 2500! That's 2500 CDs for an artist that 99.99% (at least) of Americans never even heard of. And guess what? They are out of print (but you can still pay for downloads ... blech). Did all 2500 copies actually sell? Who knows. Wouldn't surprise me if they chucked most of them in a trash compactor. A different company (Water) has the rights now and has reissued the original albums on vinyl and CD and they are still in print. Go figure. (By the way, if you haven't heard Judy Sill, you should -- she wrote some great songs and made two great LPs in the early 70s; she sings with a northern Cali accent not unlike some members of a certain band that we all know and love ....)
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How do I know which set I got a code for. Does the music only one say music only. My email does not specify.
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Trading your code in exchange for discs, or for "gifts" of Dick's Picks as someone said they did in an earlier post, is the same as selling the set on ebay. You are getting something for doing just about nothing, and you are profiting by taking advantage of this. If you have an extra code you should give it away for absolutely nothing, and refuse to accept anything in return. You shouldn't have signed up if you didn't want it or if you already ordered and you shouldn't have been able to sign up more than once.
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Absolutley Perfect answer. So the waiting begins. I hope a "pin" is one of the goodies. I have the stuffed Jerry doll with a really cool dead hat on his head (made locally, not a dead release). I've put a bunch of pins in the hat from various sources including all the pins I've got inside Dead releases. I'd post a picture if I could. His perch is my Djembe.
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The hysteria of the last five days reminds me of Cornell: Bobby: Alright, now we're going to play everybody's favorite fun game: move back. Now when I tell you to take a step back, everybody take step back. Right? Right. Okay, take a step back. And take another step back. And take yet another step back. And another, take a step back. Everybody feel better? What do mean no? Jerry: See all these people in front are getting horribly smashed here. That means you people in the back, have to move back... Bobby: Or feel real guilty. Jerry: ....or move back some. Bobby: Then your friends up front won't be real bug-eyed.
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I have no inside knowledge but it seems that right now they are progressing slowly and carefully through the boxed set orders. So my guess is that anyone getting confirmation emails right now are getting the 3001-7200 boxed sets. Then, once those are all processed they will probably proceed to the music-only sets. As they are not actually collecting payment for any of these orders yet, and since apparently there will be no limit on the music-only release, there's seemingly no rush to process them. I do have a question for marye: I submitted 2 separate email address requests, 6 hours apart, because I thought the first one got lost in one of the snafus. Got the first one Sunday morning, made my order, got my confirmation email, cool! Later the same day, I received a 2nd code email. I was wondering which would expedite things more: just let the code expire, or reply to the email to put that box back in the available pool? Thanks!
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I've seen posts that say standard edition= non-personalized box set. I've seen posts that say they got an email for the music only. My email say neither. I'm not ordering until I know what I'm getting. Am I to assume that if my email was for personalized it would say so?. If it was for music only it would say so? I f it is just a code to order it is 3000-7200, box set no personalization? Thanks. I am happy to finally get an email. Woohoo
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450 for the box is fair - u get 22 complete concerts (each 3-4 discs, with a 2 cd here or there) ; a coffee table book that would cost about 30-50 alone at a bookstore, and a nice box to store it ALL in.....go to your local barnes and nobles and buy 22 cd's and see how much you'll pay...Quit bitching...if u dont want to pay for this, wait until someone loads it on lossless download torrents, or just look for the 2 track sbd's that are around.
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u get a copy of the box (with or without the non-music extras) or u don't - end of story.
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hell, i have the recent Bruce Springsteen "Making of Darkness" box set with 3 cd's and 3 dvd's and it was only about 120.......450 for OVER between 60-70 cd's and a nice big coffee table book is a deal
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Thanks for the quick reply! Will do. Best of luck to those still waiting.
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I will take your code if your covered Buster!!! I will send you lots of good vibes!
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To support what Dilbert said, if anyone read the article in the Wall Street Journal last week they mentioned that the Billboard 200 hit a low water mark for record music sales for two straight weeks with the releases by Cake and Taylor Swift which were number 1 on the list recently. They were somewhere in the range of 40,0000 of sales of CD's and downloads. The general music market is in a slump and the profits are pretty poor considering what the performers want and the production and retailer costs. These two artists appear to be on independent labels; Big Machine is Swift's Label out of Nashville. Not the big labels like Warner. In general I don't think a lot of money is being made in this business except for maybe Itunes and for the Dead to pull of a feat like is quite remarkable and profitable seeing that that the music was archived and didn't have the studio and production costs of a new recording. That speaks highly for the fan base that is out there for the GD. Hopefully these megabox releases are not going to be the trend because they will shut out the mainstream fans that can't afford them.
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do you want it?
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Here's my take from asking the same question. If you can personalize during the order process, you know what you got. If you can't and the e-mail makes no mention of music only, you are getting the full box. If your e-mail says something about music only, you know what you are getting. My e-mail did not say anything specific, but made no mention of "music only" And Mayre already posted that "standard" orders are receiving e-mails now = non-personalized full box set. Hope this helps.
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i still download (torrents, and itunes) and i still buy physical cd's / vinyl and dvds - nothing is more fun then pouring through the packaging and notes, plus they do all the work putting the set together , and u can't beat a good multi disc box set of your fav. artists or tv show(s)
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I see you have been here for a few years and I think you were just looking to get a rise out of someone and weren't actually serious! No thank you, my friend, I have my order placed. As an aside, I think the FW69 box is probably more available, especially since the music only version of this one has been announced.