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    August 27 - September 2, 2007

    I undertook the Taper's Section last November with a pretty simple vision: to have fun providing folks a regular opportunity to hear vault material that kept their interest in Grateful Dead music fresh.

    Recently, I and others that work on dead.net became aware that certain fans had been regularly downloading the tracks offered in the Taper Section. From the very beginning, this program has always been intended to be a "for streaming only" service. Downloading was never announced, described or promoted in any manner. The situation that developed over the past months is very different than my original plan.

    Where we’re at today requires us to step back, gather some information, do some thinking and get back to you. In the meantime, we ask that you all realize that dead.net's and GDP's commitment to the Dead Head community is unchanged. We’re very excited to be hard at work with Rhino on a number of very cool releases and programs that you’ll be hearing about soon. Please bear with us until then.

    See you next week,
    David

    This week, we’re going to explore some cool moments from the Family Dog in 1969, as well as some great material from 1980 and a taste of 1972.

    Although most shows in the Bay Area in the late 1960s were BGP-produced concerts, there was a very hip alternative promoter, namely Chet Helms and his Family Dog at the Great Highway. At the end of the summer of ’69 (no Bryan Adams jokes, please), the Grateful Dead played a few shows at Chet’s cool venue, and from those shows we have some interesting material. From 8/29/69, we have a nice Easy Wind, Me and My Uncle>High Time, as well as the show-closing Lovelight, and from the next night, 8/30/69, we have a very good Morning Dew from early in the show. Be sure to check back next week for another rare track from the Family Dog in 1969.

    One thing we always get excited about is a great tour with consistently great performances, with highlights too numerous to list. The mid-August to early-September 1980 tour is one such stretch of shows, and we have a few examples of great material from this tour this week. Unfortunately, two of the best shows from the tour are not in the vault (9/6 at Lewiston and 9/2/80 at Rochester), but what does live in the vault is exceptional. From 8/27/80 at Pine Knob in Michigan, the second set opening trio of China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider>C.C. Rider (or China>Rider>Rider, if you will) is as high energy as they come. From three nights later in Philadelphia we have the ending sequence of the show on 8/30/80, featuring Space>Not Fade Away>Black Peter>Sugar Magnolia, One More Saturday Night. A classic 1980 sequence if there ever was one. Unfortunately, the first set of this show is not in the vault. Finally from this tour, we have the show opener on 8/31/80 at the Capital Center in Landover, MD, with a rocking duo of Alabama Getaway>Promised Land. As the flipside to the Philly show above, the second set from this Cap Center show is not in the vault.

    Lastly this week, we have a couple of tracks from the first night of the Europe 72 tour, the first two songs played on the tour, in fact. Both of these songs from 4/7/72 in London have a little extra something, as the band was clearly happy to be playing in Europe, a feeling that would evidently continue through the final show on 5/26/72 in London. Oh, yes, the songs: Greatest Story Ever Told and Sugaree. Enjoy.

    Be sure to check back in next week when we’ll have some music from 1969, 1972, 1973 and 1985. It’s going to be a busy week. Feel free to write anytime with questions or comments.

    David Lemieux
    vault [at] dead.net

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  • Hal R
    16 years 10 months ago
    What a long strange Grateful River trip its been
    In the summer of Jerry 65, Rhino Expeditions sent out a call to Deadheads far and wide and near and narrow saying “Come and join us on another voyage on the Grateful River.”Well the Deadheads climbed aboard the shiny new Rhino raft to float on Grateful River. More and more joined; friends who hadn’t seen each other in years and newcomers who had never even ever been on the Grateful River. And they all started talking to each other, bringing up memories of other trips on Grateful River and all the shows along the way and telling each other all about themselves. Everyone was bringing up the magic golden times and the old Deadheads smiled in reminiscing and the young ones basked in the afterglow. The sun was shining, the fish were jumping, the birds were singing and the flowers were blooming along the banks of the Grateful River. The raft was huge with all sorts of conversations taking place. As the voyage progressed people started noticing that the Rhino raft filled with golden nuggets every Monday and Wednesday. They picked up the nuggets and put them up to their ears and they heard the songs of the magic golden times. And the Deadheads started filling their pockets with the golden nuggets and put them up to their ears and listened again and again to the songs of the magic golden times. And nobody told them they couldn’t fill their pockets with the golden nuggets and listen to them over and over. The golden nuggets kept appearing in the raft every Monday and Wednesday and the pockets filled and the smiles got bigger and bigger and bigger. The Deadheads were all beaming on the Rhino raft and thought that it was one of the best things to ever happen in the land of the Dead on the Grateful River since the magic golden times. The Rhino raft was so clean and shiny and filled with golden nuggets. But then one Monday morning the golden nuggets appeared and lots of the Deadheads couldn’t even pick them off the floor of the raft and some that could get them off the floor of the raft lifted the golden nuggets to their ears and couldn’t hear a thing. And none of the Deadheads could stick the new golden nuggets of songs of the magic golden times in their old pockets. And then the Rhino raft started shaking and rolling and then WHOOSH it went over a waterfall and into a whirlpool. The Deadheads all started saying “What happened to the golden nuggets, some of us can’t hear them and none of us can keep them, what’s up?” They sent out a loud collective call to Rhino Expeditions but didn’t hear a thing back. And then some of the Deadheads started to get so mad that they were no longer being given magic golden nuggets to keep and weren’t told why by Rhino Expeditions that they started jumping out of the raft even as it kept going round and round in the whirlpool below the waterfall. Then worst of all, some of the Deadheads started calling each other names and upsetting other Deadheads and causing them to have hairballs! Well let me tell you the sight of Deadheads having hairballs is something that I wish I had never seen or heard. Then some Deadheads said that maybe some of you aren’t really Deadheads because of your behavior and then lots of the Deadheads started to question if they were really Deadheads after all. Yikes, confused yelling Deadheads having hairballs en masse on the Rhino raft. But still Rhino Expeditions did not reply. And I was there that week and I said “How many Deadheads does it take to give a silent Rhino a hairball?” But still Rhino expeditions didn’t answer. Well the raft kept swirling around in the whirlpool for over a week with more and more Deadheads jumping out of the Rhino raft. But many stayed aboard and started to relax and stopped calling each other names and some realized that they could listen to the golden nuggets of the magic golden times and others just said “This doesn’t work for me”, but they still stayed on board too. Speculation and much talk circulated about what was in store for the next Monday. The next Monday the golden nuggets appeared again but the Deadheads couldn’t keep these either. Along with the golden nuggets the Deadheads found a note from Rhino Expeditions written by a fellow Deadhead saying “We never meant for you all to keep the golden nuggets.” Most of the Deadheads were stunned and amazed at this since no one had ever told them not to keep the golden nuggets. Who wouldn’t have picked up free golden nuggets and put them in their pockets? So now the Rhino raft is still on the Grateful River but the Deadheads that are left can’t yet tell if it is still in a whirlpool or starting to float down the river again. They do have some great new friends they have met on the raft and have listened to some amazing golden nuggets. And I got the answer to my question; it takes 544 Deadheads to give a silent Rhino a hairball. Gotta go, time to check on some cats. Do I contradict myself? Very well then I contradict myself, (I am large, I contain multitudes.) Walt Whitman-Song of Myself
  • itsburnsy
    16 years 10 months ago
    Maybe we do, and maybe we don't
    Over the years I've drifted in and out of my Dead craze. For some years after Jerry died, I didn't really listen at all, got into other bands. Then Dick's Pix came along and sucked me right back in, started buying those and trading boots. Then came Rhino, and I drifted again, lost interest, nothing new worth listening too. But alas, Taper's section, cool, and I was right back into it. All the while I was thinking, what a genius marketing strategy, give me a little taste, I get the addiction back. I think a lot of this has to do with lawsuits pending by Coons too, which is unfortunate, because I do believe this will alienate a lot of otherwise loyal customers. Anyway, what to do, there's a ton of good music out there these days, and without my interest being peaked so often anymore, I will spend more money elsewhere.
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    fenario80
    16 years 10 months ago
    After Promising myself no more comments ....
    I stumbled across this tidbit on Yahoo! News: Satellite radio adds Grateful Dead Maybe the situation IS more complicated than it looks. Maybe Sirius wanted other official sources plugged up: they are promising exclusive content. Maybe I need to subscribe to @#$%^ satellite radio now ... Cut, paste, and remove the space between _de and ad; to use this link. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070829/ap_en_mu/radio_de ad;_ylt=AoZG06Er2eA3smZ7iaSswmus0NUE
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I undertook the Taper's Section last November with a pretty simple vision: to have fun providing folks a regular opportunity to hear vault material that kept their interest in Grateful Dead music fresh.

Recently, I and others that work on dead.net became aware that certain fans had been regularly downloading the tracks offered in the Taper Section. From the very beginning, this program has always been intended to be a "for streaming only" service. Downloading was never announced, described or promoted in any manner. The situation that developed over the past months is very different than my original plan.

Where we’re at today requires us to step back, gather some information, do some thinking and get back to you. In the meantime, we ask that you all realize that dead.net's and GDP's commitment to the Dead Head community is unchanged. We’re very excited to be hard at work with Rhino on a number of very cool releases and programs that you’ll be hearing about soon. Please bear with us until then.

See you next week,
David

This week, we’re going to explore some cool moments from the Family Dog in 1969, as well as some great material from 1980 and a taste of 1972.

Although most shows in the Bay Area in the late 1960s were BGP-produced concerts, there was a very hip alternative promoter, namely Chet Helms and his Family Dog at the Great Highway. At the end of the summer of ’69 (no Bryan Adams jokes, please), the Grateful Dead played a few shows at Chet’s cool venue, and from those shows we have some interesting material. From 8/29/69, we have a nice Easy Wind, Me and My Uncle>High Time, as well as the show-closing Lovelight, and from the next night, 8/30/69, we have a very good Morning Dew from early in the show. Be sure to check back next week for another rare track from the Family Dog in 1969.

One thing we always get excited about is a great tour with consistently great performances, with highlights too numerous to list. The mid-August to early-September 1980 tour is one such stretch of shows, and we have a few examples of great material from this tour this week. Unfortunately, two of the best shows from the tour are not in the vault (9/6 at Lewiston and 9/2/80 at Rochester), but what does live in the vault is exceptional. From 8/27/80 at Pine Knob in Michigan, the second set opening trio of China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider>C.C. Rider (or China>Rider>Rider, if you will) is as high energy as they come. From three nights later in Philadelphia we have the ending sequence of the show on 8/30/80, featuring Space>Not Fade Away>Black Peter>Sugar Magnolia, One More Saturday Night. A classic 1980 sequence if there ever was one. Unfortunately, the first set of this show is not in the vault. Finally from this tour, we have the show opener on 8/31/80 at the Capital Center in Landover, MD, with a rocking duo of Alabama Getaway>Promised Land. As the flipside to the Philly show above, the second set from this Cap Center show is not in the vault.

Lastly this week, we have a couple of tracks from the first night of the Europe 72 tour, the first two songs played on the tour, in fact. Both of these songs from 4/7/72 in London have a little extra something, as the band was clearly happy to be playing in Europe, a feeling that would evidently continue through the final show on 5/26/72 in London. Oh, yes, the songs: Greatest Story Ever Told and Sugaree. Enjoy.

Be sure to check back in next week when we’ll have some music from 1969, 1972, 1973 and 1985. It’s going to be a busy week. Feel free to write anytime with questions or comments.

David Lemieux
vault [at] dead.net

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You will never be "satisfied". Moments of momentary bliss will only drive the urge to hunt down more. Like many things, now that I think about it...
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I really enjoyed the downloads but I also enjoy the streaming....thanks a million for all your hard work and providing some really fantastic music....
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If I could click one time and stream all the selections sequentially, I might still listen to them. That way I could listen through the headphones while performing other tasks on my computer. But if I have stop what I'm doing each time a selection ends, flip through several windows, find my place in the list, then click on the next selection - well it's just too much trouble. Listening becomes a chore rather than a pleasure. For what it's worth, Richard
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Open up a second browser window, like I do. That way, I can still surf the net, and still go back to the TS page, as I need to.
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In IE7 and firefox you can just open it in a new tab. Another good tool is "Rocket FM" an FM transmitter that connects to your computer via a USB port. You can set it to any FM frequency, to take advantage of the best in your area. I can listen to the streaming, as well as files on my computer, in any room of my house with no problem. However, I too would like a link to listen to the whole enchilada without having to load each one individually.
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Will we have new selections tomorrow? What did DL do on Memorial Day?
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Seems like the powers that be never learn. Why do you continue to alienate the very people that support you? I really enjoyed the Tapers Section but I run Linux and Opera and I cannot stream from this site (apparently others can't either). I also listen to most music in my car or on my ipod so streaming does not excite me. The main problem you all have is you give something then take it away and wonder why people are upset. In spite of what you all might believe, most Deadheads do not believe we are entitled to this music - we realize this is a great gift the band has given us and we try to do the right thing. We support the band members by purchasing official merchandise and buying tickets to shows for P&F Ratdog etc. I have purchased many official cd's and downloads (including the entire Three From The Vault") even though I have many of the shows already. We also support the community - I have given away extra tickets to shows. I donate to the various download sites. I have purchased official CD's and DVD's for friends that can't afford them and given them as gifts I have downloaded shows for friends (and in some cases people I do not even know) because they cannot do it themselves. I am not writing this to brag (I know a lot of other people that do the same) but to illustrate how the community works- you help a brother or sister when you can and believe that kindness is re-payed in some form or another. You would get much greater support from the community if you took the time to understand it. In business terms, it's called market research. As many others have stated, the answer is not to take away access to the Tapers Section but to make it as accessible to as many as possible. I would pay a monthly fee to be able to download and I would be glad to donate a little more to keep the Tapers Section open to all so someone that can't afford it will still have access. Let people download and share - these are mp3's so they won't end up on torrent sites. This is a good way to introduce new people to the music and expand your market. Stop focusing on the fact that a few people may be downloading music without paying and instead come up with creative ways to bring the best product to the most people. You may be surprised that you can actually make more money by not focusing on making money.
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My earlier message/method also works with the GD Radio Hour if it matters. The idea for streaming would make far more sense if a GD station was (again) established via iTunes. That lil' Phish band had it too before they officially went their own ways. Luckily Rhino has nothing to do with their back catalog.
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The mp3's were reason enough for me to come by every Monday, or if I forgot one week it was extra exciting for two weeks worth of taper's section. The streaming requires that I gotta stick around rather than listen when I please. I'm the type who bought many of the downloads when it was second Tues. every month or whatever that was. I purchase EVERY release. I don't mind paying money but streaming is a big yawn for me. Just for what it's worth, put stuff up often, even if I have to pony up $$, and make it downloadable so I can listen when and where I want, I'll keep coming around. Weekly streaming just won't keep me excited enough to check every week. One more thing, I much prefer the flac format so if you are going to have some kind of pay download thingy, please include flac, not just mp3.
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......take another step back...and another step back........
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i don't get it. the band would let us bring a tape deck in and record the whole show,BUT you won't let us have a couple of songs a week
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David.Please understand that certainly a few songs that we could download and listen to whenever we like, makes us enjoy the dead even more. Hearing a great song from a great show makes us more keen to do just that. What you guys seem to be doing now is turning people off, rather that turning people on with some juicy little nuggets. The downloads make us buy more man... isn't that what its all about??????? Peace