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    Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
    Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
    Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
    Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
    Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
    Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
    Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
    Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
    Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
    Artwork by Dave Van Patten
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500

    “Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke

    They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.

    Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”

    IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”

    Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

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  • JimInMD
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    Thanks Jeff,

    I was sort of meh on the cover art from what I initially saw in the early dead.net reveals. I didn't give it much thought.. but it did little for me.

    When I opened it I immediately got it and I think it's great. The colors, context, the swirling carnival atmosphere.. add in a touch of benevolent weirdos and what have here is what it feels and looks like when you are walking through the crowd dosed out of your mind.

    I immediately saw and liked it for what it is.

    HBob, all I did was turn what Jeff wrote into a lin k (sorry, they won't even let you write that word here). Remove the spaces, etc. and paste it into your browswer. It worked for me..

  • hbob1995
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    Hi Res covers

    Can someone please help me on how to access these covers?
    Rock on

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Thanks Jeff

    That artwork is screaming to be made into a black light poster.

    Rhino store 2022 stocking stuffer, 6-foot wide black light poster.
    3-foot version also available.

  • wilfredtjones
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    GRATE job on the box art scans! Twill be fun for staring at :-) Jeff

  • JeffSmith
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    MSG Cover Art

    Finally caught up with my MSG box and had a chance to scan and work on Dave Van Patten’s cover art. It’s definitely a trip. Way more out there than the first image we kept seeing on the website showing a hand reaching down for shrooms. . . First, I combined the art from all four sides of the box (front, back, flap & spine) into a long horizontal panorama. Be careful – it’s a face-melter. It’s also a big file, so there’s a HI-res and MED-res version.

    The official artwork for the six individual shows was derived from the box’s cover, but they simplified it. The full-tilt art on the box is so insane, I couldn’t resist making alternate covers for each show that include more of the crazy, complex context that was edited out (they’re listed in Dropbox as “BOX Art”). For any purists who may prefer the simpler, but official artwork that’s actually on the CD’s, they’re included too (“CD Art”). Check ‘em out and share ‘em around while listening to some well-recorded and potent Dead from the early 80s!

    Try this: dropbox dot com/scl/fo/dxzr09qeqy5er7xlnoq64/h?dl=0&rlkey=5uz42d6yp5i7eby44rcg0ln9u

    or PM me with an email address and I'll send you the linque.

    AND glad to hear many of you are patiently facing down serious health issues with a healthy dose of humor. An inspiration to us all. Onward!

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Splices/patches/fixes

    I think that the patch in 3-9-81 Estimated is on copies I’ve had in the past, which would suggest that Healy did it years ago. But I didn’t check other copies to confirm yet.

  • PT Barnum
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    Thanks

    Oro, good review, will check these out when I get some real time to listen. Agree also about more releases, we will all be gone long before they release everything in the vault.

  • Oroborous
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    First pass/next year

    Yep limped through the box in fits and starts and finally finished last night. First shows are kinda a blur at this point but I think I thought each one seemed to get better, but haven’t been able to properly listen yet.
    More splices than normal which doesn’t bother me, I guess they/he really wanted these particular shows?
    Perhaps that’s the rub with doing the venue theme, though I generally like the venue theme concept.
    Great Dane, Greek, Rochester, Spectrum, Frost, Ventura, Cal Ex, Hampton, the list goes on so with the way their only trickling them out many will not get released!
    I like the art, except it keeps triggering these damn flashbacks lol.
    Yes it’s a unique shape, but I like that their all different.
    The book was ok. Wide angle photos were awesome, text was ok. Other stuff not really my thing but hey I buy em for the music, especially when they get the full treatment!
    I think the music in this box is mostly good, an occasional off moment, but with some truly fantastic songs too. So like most GD music…
    Same with the audio. Considering the source: some occasionally less than stellar interludes but mostly good and often sounds amazing especially considering the source. Gives hope that they can fix up more shows from the second half of their career.
    So far so good, I think I’m only going to like this more as I get a better chance to get to know it!

    TAPE STATIC: seem to recall tapes from whenever (can’t recall) mid eighties, 87?, when Healy started to broadcast them over FM he transmitted over small area in and around shows to help keep overflow crowds away. I believe some folks used to tape that way so occasionally you’d get some static from that too…

    NEXT YEAR: what they should do: Big RFK, Watkins Glen etc unlimited mass distribution release in conjunction with ABB like Conekid said, with another deadnet only best10 remaining 73 shows (there are way more left) with 9/17 or 9/15 as the Wake 50th bonus. (They have the most songs off of the album at 6).
    9/11/73 couid/should be a DaP. But will they, nooooooooooo, probably come out with a line of pet products: steal your poop doggie scooper anyone? And socks, need more socks…

  • Oroborous
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    Hey I’m down (just teasing)

    for 2 boxes a year. I mean WTF are they waiting for?
    This dribbling out a lousy 5 or 6 show boxes and only 4-6 shows from Dave, FFS!

    At the rate their dribbling then out, according to Dave’s 20 year plan (9 left), that means only 36-54 Dave’s shows and 45 to 54 Box shows, plus hopefully a few 50 bonus shows. So a little over a hundred…
    Now that may sound like a lot but when you start looking at all the good stuff that hasn’t been released it’s obvious a lot of really good shows are not going to get the treatment, bummer!

    So again, why? Why don’t they release more? Sure it will take longer to sell out somethings if more are available, but eventually most will, and even if not, overall they’ll still make more money!
    Do they think a bunch of kids who generally don’t buy a lot of “things” are going to pick up the slack when we croak or lose interest? WTF?

  • icecrmcnkd
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    First pass completed

    Listened to every CD in the Box and they all played great.

    Thanks for confirmation from others about the static. I figured that it was on the source tape because it sounded like the static that’s on so many summer ‘85 recordings (I read before, think it may have been in Skeleton Key, that the summer ‘85 static was traced to a loose cable in Phil’s system).

    Yesterday got all the CD’s imported to computer, converted to ALAC, and loaded onto a micro SDXC card for use in a music player. Currently playing 3-9-81 and it sounds great. Definitely a sound upgrade compared to what I had.

    Wow Dennis, bouncing back quickly.
    That’s good, the kids at the store need you for elderly guidance.

    Proudfoot calling for a new Box already?
    This one hasn’t lost its new car smell yet.
    It will probably be a while before another early/mid-80’s Box comes out, unless Dave/Rhino get on board with my idea of 2 Boxes per year. Summer ‘84 and ‘85 need the cassette Plangent treatment for sure.

    But I’m hoping that the next Box is a Summer ‘73 GD/ABB combined Box, not limited edition, available at all retail locations. I figure that may be the best way to get the ABB organization to agree to a release, don’t put a limit on the number of units for sale and don’t restrict it to the Rhino store.

    That should also then still make a limited edition Box from the Rhino store a possibility for 2023. So bring on the Ark Box in all its Plangentized and Normanized glory.

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WHAT'S INSIDE:
Madison Square Garden 3/9/81
Madison Square Garden 3/10/81
Madison Square Garden 9/20/82
Madison Square Garden 9/21/82
Madison Square Garden 10/11/83
Madison Square Garden 10/12/83
Newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes
Mastered by Jeffrey Norman
Liners by award-winning music journalist David Fricke
Artwork by Dave Van Patten
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition Of 12,500

“Welcome to the unique, enduring phenomenon of the Grateful Dead in New York City, a mutual devotion, forged in concert, that ran for nearly as long as the band itself—from June 1, 1967, a free show in Tompkins Square Park on the Lower East Side (ahead of the band’s official, local bow at the Cafe Au Go Go), to the Dead’s last Garden run, six nights in October 1994…the Dead’s affinity for New York City…was instant and arguably their most profound with any city aside from San Francisco.” - David Fricke

They got on the bus to the Port Authority, rode in on the Long Island Railroad and the New Jersey Transit line. They traveled North, South, and West on the 1, 2, and 3 subway lines, their numbers growing as they descended upon Penn Station. Some rolled up in those iconic New York yellows. Some walked excitedly through the bright lights of Broadway and Times Square, meeting up with old friends on the way and picking up a few new ones too as they ascended The Garden's stairs. Maybe you were among them - lightly buzzed on the way in, fully aglow on the way home. New York City was in its prime and damn if the Grateful Dead wasn't going to rise up to meet it! If you were there, we call on you to join us as we recapture that MSG magic and if you weren't, we invite you along on the epic journey that is IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN: MADISON SQUARE GARDEN '81 '82 '83.

Numbered and limited-edition to 12,500, this 17CD set celebrates the band’s rich history at “the world’s most famous arena,” introducing six previously unreleased shows recorded at MSG between 1981 and 1983. It offers a front-row seat to the Dead in the early 1980s, an overlooked and underestimated era of rebirth for the band. At the time of the recordings, the group featured Brent Mydland. Mydland’s vocal power and colorful keyboard palette energized the band, invigorating older material like “The Wheel,” “Truckin’” and “Eyes of The World.” He also gave the band more musical flexibility, which encouraged them to dust off rarely aired treasures like “Dupree’s Diamond Blues” and “Crazy Fingers.”

IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN touches on the three-year period after 1980’s GO TO HEAVEN was released, a time when the Dead were constantly on the road, playing more than 200 dates. While they were in no rush to return to the studio during this time, they continued to write new music. In 1982 and ’83, the band performed most of the songs that would appear on 1987’s IN THE DARK. The new collection includes performances of four songs from that album – “Touch Of Grey,” “Hell In A Bucket,” “Throwing Stones,” and “West L.A. Fadeaway” – plus the B-side, “My Brother Esau.”

Due September 23rd, IN AND OUT OF THE GARDEN comes in a custom box featuring new artwork by Dave Van Patten celebrating the band’s eclectic fanbase, with a cavalcade of illustrated Dead Heads. The collection also includes detailed liner notes by award-winning music journalist David Fricke, who explores the band’s connection to the Big Apple. It features newly restored and speed-corrected audio by Plangent Processes, mastered by Jeffrey Norman.

Hey August I've been spinning 9/20/82. The very beginning of Shakedown sounds like they're all tuning up and getting the mix, but then it settles in very nicely and the Shakedown has all players well balanced. Hot Shakedown>Mingle one-two. I just listened to the Scarlet>Fire last night and it is excellent also. I'm liking this box more and more.

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Anyone still on the fence on this I would jump on this. If you like early 80's Dead, this will not disappoint. I love it. Such great variety and the sound quality to my ears is 5 dancing bears! Just fantastic. Revisited 3/9/81 and this show smokes. The first set Deep Elem Blues, Birdsong! So good. Second set China Rider and the Estimatesd UJB is what this band is all about. So glad they put this one out.
Only complaint, they didn't include the 79 MSG shows.

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Just ordered the vinyl copy of 3/9/81 from Experience Vinyl (125 bucks).

I'm guessing the Dead never released this on vinyl,,,, I don't have a copy in stock.!?

I lost a chunk of emails,,,, this order (in cd's) would have been in that chunk. I would have thought if it was available on vinyl I would have bought when I ordered the cd's.

But I can find NOTHING to show this has ever been released on vinyl.

Am I nuts or did I just spend more of my wife's hard earned money!

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Spinning 9/20/82 today and it's really hitting the spot! So much magic in this MSG box. It's been in reagular rotation since the day I recieved it. I really like how they switch things up with the multi night, muti year run from a particular venue.

Also, if you've been hesitant about getting this because of reading post about sound quality, era, or performance quality, don't listen!!! If you like early 80's Dead, wait no more!

I get not liking an era but it seems a lot of posters (not all) come out in immediate protest of anything post 78.

Anyway, if you like this era, I promise this box won't disappoint! and no, I don't know DL or work for Rhino.

Rock on, gang!

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In the past few weeks I've given the '82 and '83 shows a relisten and with each I had the same thought, "Oh geez, I forgot how much fun this one is! I've got to get on dead net and spread the word......"

But I'm a bit biased with towards post 70s GD. The ritualistic approach they kept with from '79 onward simply works and one I'll never tire of. Although, does fall into the whole, 'for those that understand no explanation is needed; for those that don't, none is possible'. Seems the majority of the people that really dig 80s and 90s Grateful Dead are those that saw them in that period. Makes sense.

Of the four shows, I'd say 10/12/83 stood out the most for me this time around. Because of the Help>Slip>Franklins. Has to be one of the better post '77 versions out there. Certainly one of the longest Slipknots from the 80s and 90s. Which is the part that counts most ; -)

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