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    One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

    First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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  • Vguy72
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    ....the OG "power band".
    "His reason was spent" - damn Oroboros. I never thought of that lyric that way.
    And 1stShow with the Men Without Hats nod. Love it.
    I tried a heart emoji there. Are those not permitted either?

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    Didn't I see a version of that on PBS? Broken up by the usual begging?
    The band was all legends.

    Do it Dave. It's just not Our House without two cats in the yard.
    Cheers

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    Dennis - it seems to be available in all sorts of configurations. The one I have is called The Black and White show and has "30" embossed on the cover. It's got a cd and a dvd, with a "secret" bonus post show selection of songs on the dvd and available for download - just 5 alternative versions of songs from the main show. The main show has 19 songs, with Pretty Woman played twice.
    I've just played it again to see if it's as good as I remember it. It's not...it's better!

    I'm beginning to wonder if I should get a pet, reading some of the posts on here. The last one died about 45 years ago.

  • 1stshow70878
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    A lot on the last few Tapers. Not one I would think of for a box though. Sometimes you just gotta poke around.
    Oro, thanks for sharing. Brought back hilarious scenes of my Japanese Bobtail who ruled the dogs. She was likely dumped in our trailer park and knew the whole place. Saw her a couple times by the dumpster and the wife tried to feed her. Eventually she figured out we had cats and did fence top traverses to get on our roof and look in the yard. The rotted overhanging rafter 2x4 broke under her weight and we found her lounging on the homemade cat condo. Decided we were OK I guess. This gorgeous beast had rear legs the size of a large rabbit and would harass the yippy little dogs a few houses away. You could tell she enjoyed it. She'd hear them yipping and jump over the 6 ft. wooden fence and then go and just sit in the middle on the drive right next to their house and stare at them until they went away. Total badass!
    Cheers

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    Hopefully something I dont reeeeeally want or need

    Anything after 85 meets my definition of that

  • Dennis
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    Ok Dave, you made me buy.

    I appear to have the original cd. I just bought the re-release of the original cd, which is supposed to be re-editted, re-mastered and redone in general. Has all the songs from the tv show, put back in the order in which the audience heard them.

    Hell, it was 14 bucks for a 2 cd set,,,, what the hell.

    It was Dave recommended!

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    Didn’t want to go here, but so many have shared such personal stories, and got me all choked up, which then makes me think of my dog Iko, which gets me more choked up! He was crazy as a youngin, but eventually turned into a really good, well trained dog.

    Got him in fall 82 when he was 6 weeks and just barely old enough to be taken from his mother. I picked him out of the big liter because even at like 3 weeks old, while the others wouldn’t leave momma, he was already wandering off and getting into trouble, hence the name.
    Beautiful black lab/husky with white collar, white tips on tail and feet, with cute white nose.
    Used to take him everywhere when he was little. Had a nap sack I wore backwards inside my jacket so I could shove him inside when I needed to go into stores etc since I didn’t have a car. On top of all his other wonderful qualities, he was a total chick magnet!
    Mom wouldn’t let him in the house, or even look at him because she didn’t want to go through getting attached and then having to endure losing him etc. Eventually she couldn’t help herself, he was allowed in, and they became inseparable!
    Anyway, I was constantly moving in and out and increasingly just plain gone a lot. When I moved out west years later he was so used to being there with the folks to give him regular care etc, that we decided it was best for him to stay there. It was hard for me, but best for him.
    The sad part was as he approached the end. He had been going downhill fast when I came home for Xmass in 97.
    My father said it was like he knew and was waiting for me. The vet had said he wouldn’t make it that long. After I got home, we took him to the vet again and they said that due to various reasons his temperature was so high he was burning up inside, his brain was boiling and his reason was spent.
    Said the humane thing to do was put him down, so we made an appointment and did the difficult but right thing.
    If only we could show such mercy on our peeps, but I digress.
    It was one of the hardest things I’ve ever had to do, but so glad he waited for me to come home and to be with him.
    The thing that made me realize it was time, was that he barely touched his dog biscuit/bone. He lived for those milk bone treats, but the last one I gave him he barely touched so I took that as a sign. I still have that milk bone 25+ years later. Sits in my special cabinet with my box sets and other most personal items, including a picture of him and the beer I saluted him with after his passing.
    Before, as we waited in the car, I held him and told him what a good boy he was and how much we all loved him, and how sorry I was that I had to leave him when I moved. When it was time, I held him and looked in his eyes while they gave the injection etc. Agonizingly hard, but so glad I was able to be there with/for him, especially since I didn’t get the chance to say goodbye to my childhood dog. Pops took that guy while I was away because he thought it’d be easier. I was so pissed and wasn’t going to let that happen again.
    Ok, I’m crying now at a construction site getting funny looks, so what. Perhaps the deepest connection with anyone I’ve ever had!
    Like the David Bromberg version of Mr Bojangles, after all these years I still grieve. I try not to think about it too much because for whatever reason it still just crushes me, more than all the other peeps and pets I’ve lost?
    There was just something about him. But since you all brought me back to all that, figured I’d share.
    Sorry for the Debbie downer.
    So on a funnier note: lived with a cat at a friends house, actually several over the year’s. He had one black cat named Sable that was generally not a very nice cat. She used to go around the neighborhood and routinely kick the crap outta all the small dogs, forget about cats!
    She and I got along ok because I left her alone, we had an understanding lol. She used to like to hang in my room so she could be left alone. If I went in there, she’d usually just get all hissy and leave, but she never attached me like some folks. People would come over to watch football or whatever, and of course try the usual “hey kitty kitty” and try and pet her etc. She’d have none of that, especially from interlopers, her housemates she tolerated because she had to lol. So after she’d spit and hiss, and tell ‘em to fuck off and leave her be, many folks would shit talk her and call her names etc. well she didn’t appreciate that and was so smart, and vengeful, she’d sit and wait and stew until the offender was probably half in the bag and long since forgotten the cat. So just at the right time, as the clueless offenders hand was dangling beside the chair, she’d strike and boy she could do some damage if you had really pissed her off! We used to warn people, “don’t try to pet, and don’t shit talk the cat” but they usually didn’t listen. After the retribution, we’d have to say, sorry, but we tried to warn ya!
    Her favorite thing in life was racing cars. She’d wait on the side of the sorta busy street we were on, and try to run in front of cars at the last second. Pretty crazy but she loved it and was very good until Halloween night one year when she just wasn’t quick enough. Poor guy brought her to the house half dead and all upset. We told him not to worry as hardly anyone would miss her, but it was still sad, even a mean cat is still part of the family, and I never thought she was mean, just wanted to be left alone so we got along fine. In fact I liked her because she was so different!
    Ok, sorry, back to your Drumz/space!

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    Lands in the maritimes in record time, on a day off to boot. Bonus disc lead to an enjoyable time (as possible) cleaning the fridge. Digging so far.

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    Yes, Roy Orbison. There's a great live cd/dvd of him in concert in 1987, called The Black&WhiteNight. 19 incredible songs sung to perfection - and with a stellar band. Not least of which is James Burton on guitar. Highly recommended to music lovers everywhere.

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One more Saturday night at Winterland! Yes, we're back to home base for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 42, the complete show from Winterland, San Francisco, 2/23/74. The one that featured the earliest amalgamation of what would soon become the Wall of Sound, the one that is so "loud, clear, and defined," it's been ripe for release for quite some time and we're glad it's finally getting its due.

First set or second, there are no wrong answers here. From the unique show opener of Chuck Berry's "Around And Around" and an incredible "Here Comes Sunshine" that would then disappear for 18 years, to a medley of WAKE OF THE FLOOD tracks - "Row Jimmy," "Weather Report Suite," and "Stella Blue" - cementing their status in the canon and an unstoppable hour through the classic 1973-1974 Dead that is “He’s Gone”>“Truckin’”>“Drums”>“The Other One”>“Eyes Of The World,” it's all exceptionally hot.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 42: WINTERLAND, SAN FRANCISCO, 2/23/74 was recorded by Kidd Candelario and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

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for Oro. Maybe already mentioned under the solo smooth background category.
George Winston - my personal favorite is his Linus & Lucy, The Music of Vince Guaraldi (a S.F. guy) who we all probably know subconsciously as he wrote Charlie Brown TV specials music.
- also his Forest release.
- any duet with Gary Burton (vibes) and Chick Corea.
Cheers

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I have been listening to this podcast from it's first season. Currently it is covering the Europe 72 tour, show by show, venue by venue, days off adventures, with marvelous interviews with those of the 42 person entourage who were literally 'on the bus'. Wonderful stories abound, including great backstories of the new songs that made it to the official Europe 72 LP. Today I heard a great breakdown of all the characters referred to in Ramble on Rose, and the history of Morning Dew.

This podcast is making me consider going through the trunk again, this time just enjoying all the long jams.

PS Really enjoy all the discussion of Jazz masters. McCoy Tyner is one of my faves-seen him several times at Yoshies in Oakland. He used to play two week stands there right around my birthday. I would have a small birthday gathering of friends there, eating sushi, then we'd all go see the show. One time my friend passed him a note, and McCoy announced my name and it was my birthday! Sweet memories!

Someone on this forum mentioned Charles Mingus at Carnegie Hall a few months ago. I picked it up, nice mellow jazz, with a great pianist, Don Pullen. I really enjoy this and now I'm considering some of the other recommendations from you jazzy folk! Thanks for the great conversation.

Try The Giovanni Guidi Trio for some fine Italian piano based jazz. The City of Broken Dreams and This is the Day are well worth listening to...enjoying all the jazz talk!

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....be right back. Gotta listen to more of this guy. Has he been mentioned here before? If not, that's a damn shame.
Piano players you say? That Page McConnell guy from that band from Vermont is pretty good. ✌️

It occurred to me last night just how many new songs they played on this tour - and how few off "American Beauty", which was their last studio album at the time. Strange in a way, considering how good it is. Only "Truckin" and "Sugar Magnolia" were regulars-with just the one performance of "Brokedown Palace" as an encore for one show ( I think). Just goes to show how prolific they were at that time, I guess.

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Hey VGUY72. I heard them on JamOn on Sirius and downloaded a couple of shows off Nugs. They are an awesome band. Jam band for sure. My favorite so far is 4-9-21. Take a listen. I've wanted to see them but I really curtailed my concert going since covid.

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Goose was just brought to my attention 2 days ago, although I haven’t actually listened yet. Was going to check for video on utoob.

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Another band you guys need to check out is Umphrey's Mcgee. They are a little heavier than Goose but in my opinion the best band there is today. I've seen them about 25 times before covid, mostly on the rail, and for sure the best times I've had since seeing the Dead in the late 70's early 80's. You really need to check them out live to get the full effect but download a show or two. 10-20-17 from the Capitol in Port Chester is one I would recommend. I saw a private show in Garcia's bar next door right before this show. They played right under a picture of Jerry. A great night!!!

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11 28 80 and 11 30 80 have been released. Would 11 29 80 be released? Too close to the others? Not in the vault? No decent-enough copy?

Dave....let me take you out for a drink or 40 so I can take advantage of you....r knowledge of what's in the vault.

I'm sure Marye has a Deadphone connection straight to Dave; please tell him about my offer, Marye.

TIME IS EVAPORATING HERE, PEOPLE. LET'S GO!!!!

So we're maybe 17, possibly 18, and we head into NYC to catch The Thad Jones-Mel Lewis Big Band at the Vanguard, which is barely big enough for the band and triangle-shaped room of the classic tiny bar tables. T-shirts, jeans, long hair, natch. Maybe three or four of us. My buddy's dad had drummed for the Newark-based Savoy label and turned us on to real music beyond rock 'n roll. So we were on a mission.

We catch the first set and blow our money on several drinks apiece. Second set starts, waiter stops by, 'What'll you have?' 'Oh, nothing, we're good.' (We're now broke except train fare home.) 'I'm sorry boys, there's a one-drink minimum required.' 'We bought several in the first set, doesn't that count?' 'No. No it doesn't.' Maitre de comes over. 'Gentlemen, you'll have to buy a drink or leave.' A light goes on in my head.

'May we have a word in the kitchen?' I say... 'Sure,' says the maitre de, uncertain of my motives. So we go into the tiny kitchen, a cook is looking on, and I said, 'We'd like to stay for the second set, would this help?' And I pull out a fat bindle of blow and dump some on the steel steam table. (The maitre de's eyes are getting wider...) Then I pull out a bag of killer Columbian and place a few buds on the table. The maitre de smiles. 'Feel free to order whatever you like, it's on the house,' my new best friend says. Ah, New York City in 1975! Where there's a will there's a way... even for veritable kids on the loose.

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Hot Damn!

You people.

The outpouring of feedback and offerings of various artists in the pie-aner jazz genre is outstanding!
I have two pages of notes I've taken down to document the various artists/groups/albums to sift through. I've already been jumping in. Downright amazing.

We've said it before - I'll shout it once more - nothing tops this group in terms of on-the-spot musical offerings.
The swath of knowledge touches all corners and shades and it is so incredibly appreciated.

Enlightened,
Sixtus

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Heard through the grapevine that during Deadco webcast the President of rhino said new box will be a multi year box and announced in mid July. Also meet up at movies returning. I’m guessing Foxboro 87, 89 & 90. Any thoughts?

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Mid-July. Hmm... right before we realize how much we spent on the end of July deliveries and before we have them in hand so we'll be jonesing. Brilliant! As to a multi year guess, uh OK, I truly have no clue. But does multi year imply one venue as we have seen before?
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Trying not to get carried away, catching up. HF: fine stories from back in the day. In central Maine through mid 70s, our code name was CKR, for Columbian Killer Reefer, a huge step up from Mexican weed and standard grade Columbo. My how things have changed, local farmers gearing up, October 1st, retail sales begin in Vermont. Maine is way ahead of any other NE state in terms of retail, quality and value.

Forgot to mention Roosevelt Sykes for blues/barrelhouse piano. Saw Gary Burton and band play at a college chapel around 1971, outstanding. My second fave vibe after Hutcherson.

JJ Cale, indeed. A while back here, tagged a nicely done cover of Cale's "Same Old Blues Again" by the Terrapin Family Band with Neal Casal on location at TS, with that sweet Tulsa chug. Video can be found on the tube. Story goes, Cale was "discovered" after Clapton picked off "After Midnight" some fifty years ago. JJ's original remains the best, imho. He released several albums in the 70s that are well worth checking out.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, the 60s box must be about to be announced, fingers crossed there's several versions of Viola Lee Blues therein.

Ha.. too funny. I'll have to try that the next time I'm in NYC.

Word on the street is Sixtus is selling off his GD Box sets so he can pay for all the Blue Note box sets he just ordered. P.S. goes without saying, but don't breath a word of this to Mrs. Sixtus.

One of the next two Dave's Picks has got to be from 68 or 69. Just sayin'. Dave, hockey season is over, get cracking..

I also have it on good authority that a flock of Russian man-eating starlings has escaped, they are heading South and are expected to make it as far as Vancouver by the weekend. Much like fish are attracted to flash lures, these mutant starlings are attracted to jittery, tall, distracted people with a remote controls. I suggest filming the next reveal before the weekend.

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then my wallet will stay in my pocket

Unless it's Eugene...

Just sayin
No hate

Just that I personally have very little ongoing active interest in that era of GD

I have tried.

Mid July, huh?

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Cal Expo '89 - '90: The Complete Recordings

August 4-6, 1989
June 8-10, 1990

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I don't think the MUATM will be foxboro 89, they used that show already for a MUATM. And a great show by the way.

Alright, multi year box, cue Alpine Valley 87-89

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Chances are (nice song) if it is multi year, it’s going to cover different eras. That way they can have a mix of reels and cassettes/dats etc. I’m not sure they’d go full cassette/dat for a box yet as they still have many reels and then there’s the whole ABCD situation?
But if I’m correct about the above, there are just too many venues etc to try and guess, though my Great Dane Bix would fit the bill!
2/15/73
10/25/73
2/4/79
12/3/81
6/24/83

All good shows, just depends on tapes?

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Maybe the Lyceum vinyl box, momentous as it is, has cast a bit of a shadow over the next one of the year. For better or worse. Whatever is released next has that as company - and it may influence which year(s)are chosen. Or it may not.

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So I just dug through YouTube and Mark Pinkus guests on the Live Set II Preview from Wrigley Field 6/25/2022. Box will be announced mid-July and will be a multi year box. Same info I caught.

MUAM is a show they previously didn’t know existed.

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I'm so happy to hear that news is imminent on the box set front(and Dave's 43 also!!) Getting ready for fantastic discussions to come.

This is only relevant to anyone who had to wait a long time to receive a package(surely that's NEVER happened to anyone here) :)

Had a package shipped from TN, which is only 3 states away. It has travelled thus far, with 22 scans:

SE Tenn->NE Tenn->Central MD(where I live)->NE NJ->Wash D.C.->......

All of this has already taken the better part of 2 weeks. WHY??????

It's a good thing that Music is the Best!! Patience and understanding is the hardest part.

so far have tried first two discs of 3/20/92

meh

literally dozed off during Dark Star

92 aint their best year, true...

A while later...

I turned off 3/20/92 during Standing OTM. I guess you had to be there.

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7/29/88 is on Dave’s “list” of possibles that he’s been hitting hard and steady since he become the guy.
The China-Fingers-Rider is cool, but I think I recall the transitions weren’t spectacular, BUT, BUT, that PITB was pretty effin cool, sort old school psychedelic!

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Want 68, 69,70. Probably get 89, 90 ,91

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I don't text. What is MUATM or MUAM?
"previously didn't know existed" is intriguing.
The complete Cal Expo '89-'90 sounds good Nolan.
Can I afford 18 discs? No but WTF ( I know that one).
Cheers

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Meet up at the movies

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on disc three
3/20/92 is all a distant memory now...there, there Proudfoot...

movie/film only recently discovered?

something from the 60s...please...or 11/8/70

I'll put $5 on it being 5/24/70

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MUAM = Meet Up At Movies
MAMU= Me And My Uncle
MUATM=Meet Up At The Movies
BIODTL=Beat It On Down The Line

I’m assuming Mark Pinkus meant a show they didn’t realize they had on video.

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meet up with me and my uncle at the movies

Listening to 11/2/85
Some 85 (Summer 85 box!!!)
I loves me some GD85

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11/24/78
Box Set '22, 5 shows from the Spectrum, Philadelphia, Pa.

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Warfield October 1980.

The video was mixed in with audio reels of the Fall 80 tour that they thought had been recorded over but actually weren’t.

Don’t get too excited, I made that up.

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Excellent video on Paul Motian in NYC, at the end of his career, with undertone of valiant struggle with cancer that would take him out. One of the great contemporary jazz drummers, unique in many ways. Insights into a performing artist, great clips with brief appearances by Chick Corea, Bill Frisell and many others, locations include Village Vanguard and Birdland. It can be streamed by some services. Opening the door for further explorations with favorite jazz drummers, such as Jack DeJohnette, Antonio Sanchez, Bill Bruford, Brian Blade, Jeff Watts

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Hmm. Maybe youz prankin'.

Upon further research, Wissinoming appears to be part of greater Philadelphia.

11 24 78...that would be cool.

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Shakedown goat?
(watch, this will bring HF outta the woodwork ; )

....there is a very good copy of video from a tasty portion of this show on yootooob; it's black and white if I recall (Nay! it's in color, I just checked) but crispy picture and sound. Pretty sure it includes the entire second set and the heavy Estimated > Shakedown from this show, which was a highlight for me despite Jer having a bit of laryngitis.

I will check out the aforementioned Bakedown GOAT from today in '85.

Be Well People.
Sixtus

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Saw a photo posted of the Cup in it's shipping case at the wrong house.
Hmm.. That Mike and Oro in a brilliant plan to seize it?
Mike finished the engraving then surreptitiously FedEx to Oro's.
But seriously, why would it go to the house next door to one of the player's house
and not straight to safekeeping for the parade today?
Helluva punch bowl for the party though.
Cheers

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