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    "When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

    Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

    Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

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  • Gary Farseer
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    Oro be safe. Hate the west gets so many fires. Hoping for rain your way!

  • That Mike
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    Hey Oro - How are efforts going to contain that wild fire just beyond your property? How many acres is it now, and are you near an evacuation situation? Stay safe, my friend!

    AJS - Two good choices to build a team around. When Seattle comes in next season, like Vegas before them, they should have some premium guys to pick from for Season 1. When I head over to Vancouver to see my son who lives there, I’ll definitely coordinate it so I can make the trek down to Seattle to see the Kraken.

    Do or die for the Isles tonight. Tampa Bay is a powerhouse, but the Isles are the proverbial flies at a picnic - pesky, and always in your face. Tomorrow, Vegas has the same challenge, but I keep thinking they are the far superior team, I feel like they just let the Habs get in their head.
    Man, I love playoffs.

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    Deadbase shows they Played 1970/05/25 in London with Fleetwood Mac. I think that is enlickely. I think they planned to go back to London for a couple of days. You know, make the long trip, might as well see the historical sights while there. I mean history of England, and history of the other psychedelic scene. Hunter says on the documentary (which I am going to watch again as I have it on my dvr) that the rest of the entourage went out for the day and left him with a case of wine in his room alone. While looking out on the bustling streets of London he felt a peaceful wave (my words) overcome him and the muse directed him to pen the lyrics to those three songs.

    Therefore, I am guessing a promoter at the Hollywood Festival started talking to Jerry (or another) where it was explained they would be in London for some period. It might have only been 2-3 days tops. No one knows for sure. So I think this promoter was trying to set up an impromptu gig for the next day after Hollywood. Maybe it was too much work to get down and get announced and get ticket sales, so it fell through. My guess is the fellas were leaving next day on the 26th, so another date would not work. Workingman's was released within a few days of the Festival, in May.

    Deadbase shows the first To Lay Me Down was on 1970/07/30. It only shows an accoustic set so I am assuming an electric set is lost. This show was at the Fillmore West (Avalon Ballroom???, cant remember if that was the previous name) with NRPS. The first Ripple and Brokedown were on 1970/08/18 with NRPS. This occurred at the Matrix, wow what a small venue for that show. Even better, accoustic Ripple into Brokedown.

    I have never heard any of these shows. I think when Writing the Book of the Deadheads (Grushkin Basset, Grushken), they along withthe guys at Deadbase began going back to research shows. Who knows. As they went thru the archives of material they put together a lot of the non documented things. So I think these were the folks that probably stumbled on things that didnt have the right documentation. So Stand Lyceum London almost certainly did not happen. You say yourself, you would have made it for sure!!!

    Hope that helps from the little bit of knowledge I have. Two England shows before E72. There is still so much to uncover with this band. Sometimes it makes my head swim.

    G

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    Gary, I always refer to the festival as Hollywood, Newcastle under Lyme, but all of your additions (aka) are also correct, they simply locate the space more specifically...(and Space is the place!)
    But did the Dead play London directly afterwards? My understanding is that prior to72 they only played twice in Europe, the Chateaux in France and later Hollywood. I have read that they played in London, but I have always thought this to be incorrect ( wild horses wouldnt have kept me away if they were to play in my Hood!)
    Did they actually play or was this a hastily cobbled together plan which fell through? An urban myth....? We know that the Lyceum shows in 72 were added as the tour progressed, and shows planned for the Rainbow/Finsbury Park Astoria fell through...perhaps Simonrob knows more?

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    Interesting to me that all ( well, lets say most, to be on the safe side) of Robert Hunter's songs were definitively interpreted by other people, not himself. His own records always felt more like fringe benefits to me, rather than A1 records.
    And of those that sang his songs, Jerry Garcia was surely the one who seemed most in tune with the words he was singing. In fact when he was singing them-at his peak - it seemed he was expressing his own world view in song, rather than someone else's. I guess that is the mark of all great interpretive singers.

  • proudfoot
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    Oroborous....

    ouch.

    (I depart for the airport at noon)

  • Angry Jack Straw
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    So when I start my next hockey team

    My first two picks after Price are going to be Gallagher and Suzuki. They are not marquee names, but those guys are grinders who do the little things that win games.

  • Gary Farseer
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    He is the man.

    I think it is own the documentary "From Anthem to Beauty" that Mr. Hunter talks about writing Ripple, To Lay Me Down, and Brokedown Palace in one day while in London with the fellas. I think he said 1970. So is this a on May 25, 1970 when the dead were getting ready to play the The Stand Lyceum in London? Of course this is the day after playing Newcastle-Under-Lyme or Hollywood Festival or Lower Finney Green Farm, Leycett.

    Maybe Dogon could help with what the actual title of this venue and festival is. I assume it is just some minor dispute based on land allotment., or something to that effect.

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    I never saw Joni in concert, but in 2013 she was invited to speak at a New York Times Talks with host Jon Pareles, just prior to a 70th Tribute Concert being held for her by Herbie Hancock et al at Massey Hall. I couldn’t get tix for the musical part (house band had Bill Frisell in it, a favourite), but I got tix for the NY Times talk, held at a small concert hall at the University of Toronto. She appeared with drummer Brian Blade (who I saw a few years later play with Wayne Shorter - WOW!), and it was about a 90 minute talk, and she was quite fascinating. She spoke in depth of her career, how she played coffee houses a block or two away in the 60s, her breakout career in California, her love of jazz, and the art of Emily Carr. She is a fascinating individual, a good songwriter and a very good visual artist. It was a really enjoyable evening, and I got a lot out of it, quite different than a concert. Her health is bad now (she smokes incessantly), but I wish her well, and she was yet another color in the palette that is music.

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    Correction: The Grateful Dead could not have been who they became if it wasn't for Robert Hunter. He was the thought man, the wordsmith, who made them great. Without him? Nothing to catalyze around and nothing for the listeners to truly sink their teeth into, nothing to sing , future uncertain, at best.

    Edit: I'm gettin' antsy, wanting to know whether the box announcement will be a pass or fail in my book.

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"When it came to 1973 Dead, I was always drawn to the big second-set jams, 'Dark Star' or 'The Other One,' and all of the places those songs could go that year. One week during my initial stint with the Dead, Dick was spending a lot of time listening to 9/8/73, and he could not stop raving about it. He was very intent on pointing out that despite the absence of the 'Big Two' from 1973, every song, every solo, every moment was out-of-this-world excellent. He played me the first set, giving a play-by-play of each song and what made it special. In those listening sessions, Dick taught me a lot about how to listen critically and objectively. Of course, the subjective self always creeps in, those moments when you whoop and holler at how good a performance is, but that objective listening is critical. After many days of listening, Dick moved to other eras, as was his wont, since he carried the responsibility of selecting the best Dead shows from all eras to represent the Dead’s recorded legacy. But he made it clear and inarguable that he felt 9/8/73 was one of the best-played shows from one of the Dead’s best years." - David Lemieux

Despite the gloriously blustering artwork above, the forecast for DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 is blazing hot! With a double endorsement from archivists Dick Latvala and David Lemieux, you know it's a MUST HAVE. This one's got inspired playing from start to finish, with soon-to-be-minted Wake Of The Flood classics, a first-ever "Weather Report Suite," Keith polishing his chops on "Let Me Sing Your Blues Away," Jerry tapping into era-defining sound with his Wolf guitar, and we'd be remiss if we didn't mention Bob's exquisite playing too.

Among our 2021 Dave's Picks subscribers? The subscribers-only bonus disc featuring nearly an hour and a half from 9/7/73 is coming your way too. (P.S. there's 35 minutes of 9/7/73 on Dave's Picks Vol. 38, to boot)

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 38: NASSAU VETERANS MEMORIAL COLISEUM, UNIONDALE, NY, 9/8/73 was recorded by Kidd Candelaro and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

Didn't subscribe? You'll want to jump on this one now as it is guaranteed to sell out.

 *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Sadly I never got to see them live. I don't think they ever made it to Europe but I may be wrong. I did get to see the esteemed Mr. Lindley twice, once with the excellent El Rayo-X at The Venue in London and once at a strange gig with four solo guitarists, namely David Lindley, Richard Thompson, Rory Gallagher and Juan Martin. That was at the Dominion Theatre in London in 1984. It was a weird gig that almost worked.

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Got my copy #11488 today, bonus disc comes with sticker.

@simonrob
Also saw David Lindley two times in the 90th - Hamburg and Kiel
and taped both shows. Hamburg with Wally Ingram and Kiel with Hani Naser,
the tape from Kiel is excellent audience.
And I still have 2x C90 tapes from the acoustic concert at the Dominian Theatre in
London with Gallagher, Lindley, Martin ant Thompson.
As fas as I remember it's a lousy recording. Got it in a trade years ago.
Stay safe and healthy
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Perhaps it's the alarmist in me.. but I took my sticker out of the sleeve with the bonus disc and put it in the sleeve with the liner notes. The last thing I want to see in ten years is opening up the bonus disc and noticing that some of the glue degraded and seeped onto the CD.

A pretty harmless precaution.. if I'm wrong, no harm no foul.

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Ready to play in the coming days.

I only saw David Lindley one time, I think with Jackson Browne maybe, in the mid-70s, but I remember he was one of these guys - like Larry Campbell - who could play anything with a string on it, and play it amazingly well!

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Keithfan - in the sleeve notes for Dicks Picks 26, referring to the Chicago show on 4/26/69, Bear writes that " We generally did psychedelics on Saturday." Sounds like a plan!

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Thanks Daverock, very interesting.
That's less often than I assumed lol. I'm going to guess then, it was psychedelics on Saturdays and weed the rest of the days. I simply can't imagine they went up there completely unaltered. I've read that Pigpen wasn't into psychedelics, but (I've heard) a little weed after a drink or two (I've heard) makes for a nice all-over buzz, no paranoia. I wonder if that was his bag.....

I put my Bonus sticker right on the fridge. No harm but definitely a foul. Sometimes I just plain behave like a bachelor first and deal with the aftermath as needed.

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Nappy, I'm so jealous you saw Danny Kirwin and Christine Perfect in San Diego. I am so in awe of both of them. Any memories?

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From the original May 1977 Box Set, I went with today's anniversary show, St. Paul, MN. I'm up to Sugaree. I always listened to this one and 5/17 the most from this Box Set. The Scarlet / Fire is probably in my top 5 (as is 5/17). Whole show has a lot of cowbell. The SNL cowbell. But I'm sure Mickey has some literally cowbell in here somewhere. Looking forward to the whole Wharf/ Space / UJB / Brokedown Palace.

That Sugaree's a set closer, right? Listen for the pre-breakout (5/19) China Doll notes from Phil before Wharf Rat.

Lot's of stickers and magnets on mine. Sometimes it feels like I never quite graduated from college. Which is fine with me.

@daverock
very funny, pissing in the wind, in France we have a similar saying, "pissing in a violin"; meaning is you won't change any event, like the way the wind blows!!!

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Doc came, preached The April '71, and then disappeared. Poof - just like that he's gone. I suspect we won't hear musical tales of that magnificence again until October.

Sixtus, good to see you're always out there. Speaking of always out there, Icecrmcnkd hasn't been "as" around as usual. I think he's been sucked into the Bonus Disc vortex.

Daverock, I've been pondering the words of Freewheelin' Frank...I guess he means you don't feel the weed after several drinks. So.... (I've heard) the trick is to have only one or two drinks....which means Pigpen probably only smoked at breakfast :D God bless him, he was one of us.

Jim, I'm on the same page. I feel like I've been in suspended animation since college - not always a bad thing; youthful shenanigans make for a lot of household laughter. I was mildly surprised by the ruckus I caused with the fridge sticker. It's bringing home the sorority girls that usually raises the alarm.

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I believe what Frank is trying to teach is not to get drunk THEN get stoned as that can lead to bad things.
So make sure you get good and stoned boys and girls before you start drinking! 😀

NOTE: This service add was paid for by doggies against dumb drunks

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Arrived yesterday, finished the ripping process this morning.

Has Phil's bass EVER had anymore knobs on it??? A couple more knobs and the strings wouldn't have fit!!!

I like the sticker, thought about sticking it on my work locker, but, wasn't sure if set would "lose" value without the sticker!

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Got email from Real Gone today about a Bob Willis collection. Sounded great. If you like the Bob, check it out. Didn't know about volume 1 so had to buy 1 and 2. :-),,,, no rest for my wife's money.

....David Grisman is doing an AMA on the Grateful Dead subreddit on May 21st which is my birthday as well. Thanks Dawg!

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there are a couple of May 71 dates

5/29 "Acid Punch"
5/30

I gotta check out 5/29 again....I recall it being good-n-weird...it IS referred to as Acid Punch, after all

thennnnnnn

6/21/71

7/2
7/31

August........................................

RnR Hall of Fame

JayZ is not rock n roll
The GoGo's

THE GOGO'S??????????????????????????????????????

But no Motorhead????????

W
T
F

no X, no Joy Division, no Smiths, no Bad Brains, no NEW YORK FUCKING DOLLS, no Husker Du....

As the Sex Pistols said, the RnR HoF "is a piss stain"

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Sheik Yerbones - also, in France a dandelion is known as pissenlit (translation, piss in bed).

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In Dutch a woodlouse is known as a pissebed.

You couldn't make this stuff up.

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Well, my copy did even more yo-yo-ing around the country than usual this time. Got it yesterday. Listening now, and well worth the wait!!!. . . Here’re links to my corrected scans of Helen Rebecchi Kennedy’s covers – hope some of you still need ‘em. Thanks to Jack Baller, PKB et al who posted art earlier! If you're interested, mine are probably a little higher res and maybe closer color-wise. Check 'em out. And be sure to pass around as needed.

Dave’s 38 & Bonus Covers: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yx2532a3jyvuh3n/AAAJbH8t4zC5bfmZRWC8xfa8a?dl…

All Dave’s & Bonus Covers: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/qx5j9ydoc7bzm8z/AAD8yK_vCv_kQ-oLkLJQVCEla?dl…

Onward

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I’m always lurking.
But with spring weather I’m outside more too, so less time surfing the internets.

Thanks for the scans Jeff.

Dave, your Box Set announcement is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy past due.
Load us up with some more Plangentized/Normanized ABCD scores.

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I'm not really keeping track but delivery less than 2 weeks after the shipping notice arrived, has to be a new record for me. I wonder if having Dave living around Victoria has anything to do with faster delivery to the PNW?

screw 'em...it should've been The Runaways not the Goo Goo Foo Foo Go Go's...anyways...Dennis are you spying on me? Just got my Bob Wills Tiffany Transcriptions Vol 2 in the mail a few days ago...Ahaaa!!! Nitecat, The Mac were one of my top five faves from the Peter Green days and even up to Bob Welch...they played a lot of LA gigs both as headliners and support...sad about Kirwan though...a few times he was incrediblely on fire...others he was too drunk to play or even give a damn which of course led to his being kicked out of the band...The "Kiln House" LP was a fave and Station Man and Tell Me All The Things You Do were always a gas to hear....some day I'll tell you my Jeremy Spencer story...SimonRob glad to hear you saw Lindley at that gig...His El Rayo-X gigs were always a blast...for one great weekend at Laguna Seca in Monterey it was El Rayo-X, Los Lobos & Grateful Dead...some stuff...

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Mucho thanks Jeff for the DaP covers...awesome

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might be also seen in the little town of Pissen in Saxony-Anhalt, Germany

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Anyone ever seen a woodcock in proximity to a pissenlit? I was fortunate to observe a woodcock strutting across the road near a forested area about a year or so back. It's lucky that it didn't get run over by a passing car. Because there's nothing sadder than a smushed woodcock. Have a Grateful Day all :-)

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Maybe just a close eye. You always mention these "older" people, I count on hearing about stuff here. Speaking of the older stuff,,,, we have a new kid at the store, worked with her for the first time last night. She told me Nat King Cole is a relative!!! Uncle? Related somehow. I was blown away, I know no one famous, certainly not related.

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Jeff - Thanks for the covers, your timing was propitious! (It was Word of the Day on an elevator screen!). Seriously, I was burning 38 & bonus yesterday, and could not find a good copy of the Bonus cover. Gracias¡

I had a girlfriend whose father called her "Crisco". ....... Fat in the Can. Great dad, huh? :-)

Jeff - interesting looking at all those covers of Dave's Picks., thanks for that. But it surprised me how unfamiliar I was with a lot of them. I have got them all ( fingers crossed about Dave's 38), but I wouldn't have known it from looking at that post. In fact I went up to check I had number 12, and I have - 4/11/77, but I've no idea what it's like. There must be quite a few up there, in the post 1974 era, I have only played the once.

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I'm sorry, this is possibly inappropriate, but three words must be said:

GRAND FUNK RAILROAD!!!!!!

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Now that Bluetooth joke IS funny! I’m ashamed to say I had to read it twice.

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If every band that ever had a hit or two gets into the R&R Hall of Fame it becomes irrelevant.

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I'm pretty sure it's always been irrelevant ;)

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I visited there two times over the years and liked it just fine (was visiting relatives in Pittsburgh and made the trek to Cleveland)

but I give up now. what a joke. what a travesty.

the GoGos....GOOD GRIEF.

Go listen to Motorhead "Overkill" album right now to understand true rock 'n roll

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