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    What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    ...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net

    Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit

    I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube

    We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.

    Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

    *2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    I like to think I am open minded...but I draw the line at opera.

  • That Mike
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    DaveRock - I agree, you have to give everything a chance. I even gave opera a chance - twice! - and it was ok. Just not my thing, but either is death metal or Broadway music, but I don’t put it down. Punk had its place, and some truly great artists emerged from it (Iggy, Ramones, Patti Smith), but I was deeply into the Dead et al long before the Pistols etc played a note. In fact, the guy that really introduced me to the Dead and the Byrds was a huge New York Dolls fan. Funny how that works.

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    ....going with Jimi Hendrix The BBC Sessions for the Eagles/Niners game.

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    ....hallowed ground. I wish I could've visited.

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    ThatMike - yes, I have always liked music across supposedly conflicting genre's. The year of punk - 1976 - was also the year I started getting into The Dead. "Steal Your Face" - a but perplexing, but hey. Johnny Rotten had a Pink Floyd tee shirt, on which he scrawled "I Hate" in front of the bands name. It was designed to annoy people - Pink Floyd were like rock royalty at that time, so expressing an opinion like that was like heresy. It was drawing a line - that was then - this is now. It wouldn't surprise me to hear that he actually liked them, and had been to see them a few times. It seemed very important to distance yourself from the older generation when I was a teenager. it was quite unusual to have it pointed out that The Stones, Led Zep, Yes, Pink Floyd etc and their fans now WERE the older generation.
    Nick Mason included a reproduction of the offending tee shirt in the big Pink Floyd exhibition a few years ago. He saw it as a compliment!

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    Fast Fact: ON THIS DAY, JANUARY 29, 1961, BOB DYLAN, 19 YEARS OLD, TOOK A BUS TO MORRIS PLAINS, NEW JERSEY, WHERE HE MET FOR THE FIRST TIME HIS IDOL AND INSPIRATION WOODY GUTHRIE..

    As for Punk, or New Wave, by the time the first wave ramped up, I was pretty entrenched in Dylan, the Dead, the Byrds etc, all the bands and performers that seemed to piss the hardcore punks off, which I never understood. I always felt there is room for all music; I don’t care for Pink Floyd, for example, which seemed to be a target for the punks, but I just figured if I didn’t like them, I didn’t have to, I didn’t need to put down them or their audience. Just play, man.

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    R.I.P. Tom Verlaine

    A truly original and exceptional guitarist. As Crow said, he used different scales to the ones practised by other guitarists at that time. Incredible tone too. It was pointed out at the time that he sounded more in the realm of Barry Melton and John Cippollina than the prog and heavy rock players of the time. "Marquee Moon " is the classic, but the follow up, "Adventure" is almost as good.

    The American bands from the mid 70's grouped together as punk seemed to be ones that played regularly at CBGB's in New York. They were a refreshing antidote to stadium rock. As Joey Ramone once said, not country rock, blues, rock, jazz rock, prog rock or heavy rock....but rock rock. They seemed to take their lead from the so called garage bands of the mid 60's, commemorated on Lenny Kaye's brilliant "Nuggets" collection. The 13th Floor Elevators, The Standells, The Chocolate Watchband etc. Plus The Stooges and the MC5.
    In England in 1976, punk was great at first. The first Ramones album, released that summer, I think, was the blue touch paper. I used to go to a dump called The Electric Circus in the backstreets of Manchester - very different from The Free Trade Hall-home of The Halle Orchestra, where I saw the likes of Genesis. I felt at home there for about 6 months. Not many people attended and it seemed to attract a motley collection of misfits like me. By mid 1977 it was jammed to the rafters with identikit "punks" who had jumped on to the band wagon. Short of hair and short of temper. Gangs of spitting, punching hooligans. The musical style was reduced to three chord blasts ripped off from The Ramones, but without their style or humour. Time for me to move on.

    English punk hasn't aged well with me at all. Most bands I liked in the 70's, I still like - but not that. Apart from the first 4 Sex Pistols singles. Television, on the other hand, still sound great.

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    That’s what some people used to call Television. Because they knew more than three chords, played songs that lasted longer than two minutes, and didn’t wear safety pins through their cheeks, I guess. But they got called ‘punk’ in the mid-70s, along with Patti Smith, Pere Ubu, Talking Heads, and a lot of other great bands who didn’t fit the stereotype. Because the stereotype hadn’t been invented yet.

    It wasn’t till the late ‘70s/early '80s that “punk” came to mean three chords and a mohawk. When it first started, it basically meant you could do whatever you wanted. And it meant you wanted to reject the tired old bullshit that most arena rock bands were peddling and do something new. But when it started to become a “movement,” and people wanted to jump on the bandwagon, they found that it was fucking hard to come up with anything as original as Patti Smith or Television. That took talent. But it was really easy to get a buzz cut, buy a leather jacket, learn three chords, and imitate the Ramones. And eventually everybody sounded like the Ramones (who I love, btw) and the punk scene became even more rigidly conformist than mainstream rock.

    Anyway … sad news about Tom Verlaine. He was a HUGE influence on so many, including me personally: back when I was learning guitar, two guys I copied the most were Garcia and Verlaine, precisely because they were different from everybody else, played scales most rock guys didn’t play, had a sense of time that was different than 99.9% of rock guitarists. Go listen to Verlaine’s solo on “Marquee Moon” and tell me Jerry wouldn’t have approved.

    Don’t fret the relatively slow sell out of DaP 45. If the series was sustainable financially back when they were doing 12,000 copies, you can be sure that it’s still sustainable when they’re doing 25,000, even if it takes a few weeks, or even a few months to sell them all. Having a run of 25,000 that doesn’t sell out in a day just means more copies are going to people who actually love the music, at list price, as opposed to paying double or triple or quadruple or quintuple or sextuple that to the scalpers who’ve been leaching off everybody for years.

    My prediction? The GD archival release program will go into warp speed overdrive for the next 5-10 years, trying to sell as much of the vault as they can before all of us dinosaurs who still buy physical media hit the boneyard. It’s going to be glorious. The releases, that is. The boneyard, not as much.

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    The one good reason I can think of to be concerned about a Dave's Picks not selling out is our long term release prognosis. There was a time when we waited a relatively long time between releases. I don't want to go back to those days. Regardless of why they're not sold out in a day, it's always better for us if the Grateful Dead release program is doing well. Who wants to see fewer releases per year? Not me.

    I think the Dave's Picks sales have been impacted because they manufacture the 25K as already mentioned. This is a double whammy against them. I know that a large number of subscriptions were purchased by eBay resellers. Resellers are not doing as well for 2 reasons.
    - The 25K saturates the eBay market, so the resellers don't make as much per unit, and they can't flip the product as quickly. This is usually a second business for people. Now resellers buy fewer subscriptions.
    - The government passed laws that require eBay sellers to charge sales tax to buyers, as well as pay income tax on their sales. It was always a requirement to report eBay sales, but small pedlars were not doing this. Now eBay is required to report Seller income to the the IRS, so pedlars have no choice but to pay close to 50% of their profit to the IRS, eBay, and PayPal. And the cost of shipping has gone up.

    This means pedlars are screwed. They need to charge 3x as much as they did a couple of years ago, and inflation is through the roof. The average Deadhead isn't go to pay $100+ for the new Dave's Picks.

    Eventually the pain will trickle down to us. It won't be this year or next, but we've all been in this over the long haul, so when you add in the fact that there are lots of officially released shows from many years already, demand is on the down.

    Dead and Co is also going away. Their touring helped drive sales. I'm not saying the Vault release program is going away, but maybe I am. I don't know anything about their contract with the Dead or their budget for new releases. What we all need to do is buy 2 subscriptions each year and will a set to our children. One day they will be true collectors items.

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What a setlist!... Made me jealous of those who saw this era live. Great sound… like ‘77 was yesterday. @derekb192 on 10/1/77, YouTube

Wow! Just as when you think eyes is gonna go to drums out of the bliss comes dancing! One of my all time fave moments! Not just classic 77 but classic ever dead! - @emrysdavies1215 on 10/1/77, YouTube

...this show was off the hook from the very get go. The Casey Jones is the best I've heard... beginning a jam that goes through each member going off on an instrumental solo. The end has them jamming so hard you can no longer hear them singing through it. Now you know you're in trouble (The Good Kind) when a show starts like that... Weirtheir on 10/2/77, Dead.net

Holy hell, the 10/2/77 Betty Board sounds incredible... I just wanted to pay homage to this unreleased gem, which features the lovely, tight playing you'd expect of a 77 show with some of the highest audio quality I've ever heard ... What a treat. u/monsteroftheweek13 on 10/2/77, Reddit

I told my mother I was going into Portland with friends. I never told her where I went... @jamesmoore3694 on 10/1/77, YouTube

We know where you've been and we're taking you back with the twice as nice DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 45: PARAMOUNT THEATRE, PORTLAND, OR - 10/1/77 & 10/2/77. Back-to-back complete previously unreleased shows on 4CDs? You betcha! Why? Because we couldn't pick one over the other of these two nights that have been described as "fire," "mind-frying," and "crispy" (bit of a theme here) too many times to count. Witness it for yourself when you dig into the inventive medleys and pristine sound, not to mention the first "Dupree's Diamond Blues" since '69 and the first live "Casey Jones" since '74.

Limited to 25,000 numbered copies, this release was recorded by Betty Cantor-Jackson (with a boost from Bob Menke, more about that in David's video) and has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. Grab a copy while you can.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Only Dave's picks I've seen last a week, which is a bit of a shock to be honest. I've gotten them all from 30 on and this is probably my most anticipated show to be released. No doubt there have been some good ones since then but I thought this one would be gone quickly

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Marx Brothers classic.
Groucho - I wouldn't want to be a member of any club that would have me as a member.
Cheers
RT Vol. 1 No. 1, 1979 - Interesting sound on this. Very dynamic and heavy on the midrange? Vocals not so much. Brent's electric piano (synth?) so bright and loud it hurts. Phil sounds good though.

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Glad to hear that folks are getting their Dave's Picks 45 in the mail. I got a shipping notification 5 days ago, but if I click on the tracking number USPS still says they are waiting for the package. This has happened before and I've come home and found the package waiting for me, so who knows.

Thanks to all who've weighed in on why this Pick isn't sold out. Anecdotally I've often found that people wax lyrical about Spring '77 but don't seem to have the same affinity for Fall, so maybe that's a factor. IDK. I just know that I was enjoying the heck out of Dave's Vol 25 yesterday. Pulling out 23 today just to listen to it while it's still January...

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When you get your copy, pay attention to the time when the audience tape fades into the soundboard on track 2. :)

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Istshow - great quote by Groucho Marx. Filched by The Cramps for the opening line of their classic " No Club Lone Wolf".

Paste that tracking number into the UPS system.
Mine tracked all the way with UPS until it was handed off to USPS.
At that point the USPS system tracked it until it was put in my mailbox today.

Started with 10-2 set 2 since I had a pretty good cassette copy of that show and know it well.

Sounds grate!
And waaaaaay better than the opera.

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Thanks ICECRMCNKD -- you were spot on, UPS has my package. Looks like they only took possession today but as it's already in California I should have it fairly quickly now. Good tip, thank you!

And wow small world- I was also figuring I'd start with 10/2, and for the same reason. Cheers

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UPS tells me "A delivery date will be provided as soon as possible", the same message since 1/25/23. USPS just says Status not available. If I hadn't had three prior bouts with Dave's Picks being lost in transit and taking months to get resolved, I'd be less anxious about it. Not too encouraged seeing the shipping address is missing my apartment number, which my billing info definitely has as it's listed twice on the order status page at deadnet. Oh well, plenty of Dead to listen to...

Last five as best as I can recall:
GOGD 5/17/77 and 5/15/77
Jazz is Dead 4/14/99
Peter Gabriel Secret World Live I suppose watching a concert film counts
And GOGD DaP 45 Listening Party followed by my own Listening Party to 9/9/72 The Other One, which was a relisten as I listened to it when it was announced, curious at a 34 min Other One a week after the 9/3/72 Folsom one that is filler on DiP 36 9/21/72. It more than delivered, but this time I let the Stella Blue play, and I normally don't care much for '72 Stellas, as they just haven't yet found it, and it's almost exactly perfect in '73; but this one was fantastic. Phil is all over it. Far better than the one 2 weeks before on DaP 24 8/25/72 where Jerry is still searching for the vocal and the guitar voicing (another 30+ Other One on that one, too), but I also believe Jerry was completely wasted at that point. But anyway, I know some like to go in with virgin listens to the Normanized, I just get excited and want to hear some of the highlights of what I will hear in better quality. I also listened to Bird Song and Playing on this venture on 9/9. Saving the rest for May, I suppose.

Hope to hear more good things about DaP 45. I liked the Listening Party, except Jack Straw. Way too fast a tempo. Doesn't need to be funereal slow like Dead & Co, but I like a good loping pace to Jack Straw that builds to a fiery peak, not the double time, frenzied pace of this one. DaP 25 11/6/77 shows how by the end of the tour, they learned how to burn the place down with Jack Straw and keep it about the same tempo, just throw in more and more of the power chords.

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I've also had delivery issues in the past.. this was not one of those times. Shipped notification email arrived Jan 25; package showed up today via US Mail (Jan 31). Tracking the package online was useless and seldom updated. Love the liner notes and pictures.. can't wait to spin it.

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....yeah Alvarhanso, Jack Straw is known for those.
The Go To Nassau '80 release has a version that is as close to metal that I have heard them play.

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...that you are the song that the morning sings.

My kind of Grateful Dead. New to me 10-1-77. Really liking this pick, Dave! Well done...

Enjoy all, Stay Grateful!

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I never received a shipping notice yet. What's up guys. Is this normal?

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I always thought "Passenger" had a Stonesy type swagger, and I notice that's played on the first night of this set. They did seem more heavy rock to me in the second half of 1977 compared to the first.

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the time is right for that quote

got #110 (so close to #102) yesterday

listened to the first 4 tracks or so

yummy

still in a GD69 mood

God bless the Grateful Dead

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the time is right for that quote

got #110 (so close to #102) yesterday

listened to the first 4 tracks or so

yummy

still in a GD69 mood

God bless the Grateful Dead

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Hi Everybody. For what it's worth, I never received a shipping notification. I just noticed yesterday that USPS was bringing a package to my house, which was delivered with my regular mail. If I didn't look at the USPS Informed Delivery e-mail, I would not have know it was coming.

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This just popped up. Dave's 23 on 5 LPs.
I always buy the vinyl but I just listened to this and it is good but...
I better decide fast only 5000 copies.
That's what I thought about Light Into Ashes.
And I think it is still available. (Yes, and it was a 7200 copy release)
Could justify Dave's 1 on vinyl because I don't have the CD.
I'm waffling. Where is Dennis' wife's credit card?
Cheers

So I guess the Dave's Vinyl model isn't doing them all in numerical order starting with No.1. More of a pick and choose by them.

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Garcia Family Provisions album of the month.
Garcia Live No. 5, NYE 1975 at The Keystone for 20% off.
Don't have that one yet and it's got Nicky Hopkins.
Tough choice, $124.95 or $13.59. Hmmm.
$13.59 it is! Where is my wife's credit card?
Cheers

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Well that was unexpected. Seems a bit of an odd choice for a release to me on the back of Daves 45, featuring shows played only two months before it. I played the cds last month and while I do think it's a great show - both sets - I can't remember thinking there was anything wrong with the sound quality that could be improved by listening to it on vinyl.
I guess buying it would be insurance if the cds become unplayable in a few years, as some of them seem to have become..but otherwise, I'm not so sure.

Ordered. Sorry 1st but that sucking sound was my wife's card being spanked to death. I would have asked her permission but she's been on a conference call. If I wait it may sell out!!!

45 is close, but Dallas is shut down for the second day since we got a 1/2 inch of snow!!! Post Office didn't even come yesterday. Looked like snow, but I guess it isn't,,,, right? Rain, hail, sleet or snow, must have be something else :-)

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None of my GD CDs have what has been discussed here as "disc rot".
Most of them have never been played (or stored) in the car.
Just lucky? They have been in the dry high desert W. Colo. environment.
Hard to say. Maybe just bad pressings (are CDs pressings?) or production issues for the rotten ones?
Cheers

Edit: Thanks Dennis, I'm good. Gonna pass I'm afraid. Your DFW area looks like they drivin' in the funny papers (to quote Hoke in Driving Miss Daisy) on that ice. Just one after another piling up. Got a CO buddy who is in Ft.W and he always remarks at the lack of bad weather driving skills down there. No practice I guess! And likely no snow tires either.

Edit 2: Oro is famous! He is cited in Community Bits in the Feb. GD Bulletin currently in my inbox. Way to go Oro! And they mention it is Dave L's anniv. of 1st day working for the GD. PIc of him in his bold ski outfit and some cool looking rockered skis with bolts on them. Seen lots of different GD skis but don't know who made that newer model. Anybody know? The pic with his cat is cool too. Big ole long hair. Of course it's a longhair! Dang hippies, get off my lawn!

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Got mine today. Haven't listened to it yet, but I'm very pleased that it contains both shows. Wasn't expecting them to both be complete shows. Thank you Dave.

The 10/2 post-drums section is one of my favorites of all time. Especially Wheel>Truckin>Other One - the transitions are exceptional. Yes, The Other One is brief, but that whole trifecta with the transitions is picture perfect. I can't wait to listen to it.

I have not been lurking here at all in recent months. I hope everyone is in good health and enjoying 2023 so far. Stay warm this weekend!

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It's not there. Go back 17 pages on this thread where Dennis has listed them.
Cheers

8-21-72 B.C.T. on GD Hour rerun this week. 1st of 4 that encompass the entire show. Interesting that David Gans can do complete shows just not all in one sitting. As I recall his earlier shows could not do whole sets either.

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That charmed mofo...if only the Seahawks had run the ball that second Super Bowl...TB would have one less championship.

The boneheaded shit will annoy me to my grave.

Grr.

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Hi all, I hope the crew is doing well. I got my copy yesterday and after hard jiu jitsu training session, I came home and gave it a listen. I got through CDs 1 and 2 which is the 10/1 show. As expected very much a classic 77 show. I really love that we are getting more of the fall of 77 being released simply because those shows still have 1977 Grateful Dead feel and flow (obviously), but they do differ (at least to my ears) from April and May of that year. Right now I am listening to 10/2 and I have to say there is quite the exceptional Casey Jones opener... In any case, 1977 is the year that keeps on giving.

Random things:
I have recently discovered Jethro Tull beyond the one commonly played song Aqualung that circulates through the local radio stations. Needless to say I am jumping head first down that rabbit hole.

Oro got the shoutout in the monthly Grateful Dead bulletin in the Community Bits section. Very cool!

I believe that today is the anniversary of Dave L coming on board with the Grateful Dead. All I can say to that is what I always do: Thank You Dave for everything! And when you can , how about a 1985 release pretty please?

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Monday afternoon 2/1/23
Being from PdxS and alive then (though only 2yrs) makes this release extra special.
Thanks Dave for the Portland Oregon consideration, also for Pick #44 in Eugene!

Picked up at the PO yesterday, previewed a few last night. Audio quality preliminary (*after auds) seems excellent. Busy with prep for the bitter cold weekend, will keep warm with this full listen soon. Nice to have more October to go with DaP Dekalb and RT 1.2 releases. Reminding folks Dicks 29 has hidden tracks from October 11 show on discs 2 & 5, including a grate Wharf Rat.

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Is it just me, or is the sound quality not great for the first couple of songs on Disc 1 of Dave's 45? About halfway through TLEO it gets better, but not great to start. Could be my Bose disc player acting up.

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The Groundhog popped up this morning, and predicts a quick delivery of DaP 45, rather than a further six weeks waiting on delivery.

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Howdy!

Depending on how rocked out you like your music, my recommendations are Thick as A Brick and Passion Play. Enjoy

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PF - only 46 days until Spring - tonight, in my area, they are expecting -30 C/22 F, so I sure hope so.
I will NOT be out with my binoculars in my backyard tonight trying to see The Green Comet (Comet C/2022 E3 on its birth certificate), not seen since Neanderthals roamed the earth. It can wait a night or two.

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My wife's been watching every night for a week.
Drags herself out of bed after the moon sets in bitter cold air.
She's over it now and not very impressed with Greenie.
At best it was a fuzzy blob, as comets are, but color was evasive.
That said she did not set up the little telescope, just 10x binos.
Amazed at her dedication. You go girl!
Cheers

Tull - Thick As a Brick, easily my favorite, Living In The Past comes in second. For more modern releases Rock Island and Roots And Branches weren't too bad. Oh, and Crest of a Knave was good.

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Kudos to your Mrs for her dedication. You’re right, though, most of the time - with the exception of Neowise - comet gazing is a dud. Neowise was a rock star.

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Just delivered. Will comment later. I listened to Dap 21 last night. Those east coast shows are hot.

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Have yet to listen to 45, but it did arrive yesterday. Everyone seems pretty pumped so far....

Hey PF, I have a junior in high school, and he just wrote an essay for his English class titled something like "Why the SB 49 call was not as bad as you thought." He makes some great points, including that there was an 80% chance that play call would result in a touchdown. He goes into this "the analytics say" stuff and I'm just like, I don't give an EFF what the analytics say, you got Beast Mode, hand.off.the.ball. Kids and their analytics these days, pfttt

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Jethro Tull - Benefit, Stand-up, Storm Watch, Living in the past.
Spinning 45 now, after the first two tunes, it evens out and becomes very pleasant. Mexicali with Jer shredding and the last Dire Wolf in the key of E. A Cassidy then Deal with Jerry again on top of it into a killer Passenger then back to Tennessee. Great first set here with a real pretty Peggy-O. Second set looks great too.

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