Grateful Dead

I think the connection Jerry had with Brent really had a lot to do with his perhaps giving up a bit....Just watch the 89/90 videos and it’s like they have a bromance going on. The looks and smiles back and forth, which coincidentally are during some of the bands best work EVER! (Go ahead and hate 70s only crew!) He did it sometimes with Bruce, but not so much with Vince. Eventually it seemed like Jerry mostly turned his back completely on Vince, body language doesn’t lie.... I think they should of taken time off after Brent died, like they did in 74-76. I realize about the corporation etc, but when he died most everyone lost their job anyway, so that didn’t work out so well did it? Yeah Brent and Jer had this great bond and not only did he lose his Keyboardist, he lost yet another Brother, and perhaps how he died etc being such a waste, maybe that really bummed JG out too.... Many here bash on Brentski, but more and more the band etc say what a great singer and player he was. Yes, just like ALL THE OTHERS he too had some quirks and when he was bad, well....but you name any show, from any era, and I can find stuff that is ruff, or poorly sang/played!

"It’s a shame so many of you seem imho, closed minded" It's really annoying when people call other people close minded when they disagree with their tastes.

How much should I start putting aside?

Indeed, Mr Stoltzfus, Tao, tap, tap, is thing turned on.....”WE NEED MORE DARK STARS”TOO is great and all, but it’s not Dark Star! The one, the only, the omnipotent GD at its best!

Wow, you all been busy here the last few days. Unfortunately I’ve only had time to peak in from time to time.....Schlepping books & furniture; Packing/moving/emptying house so as to be able to show/sell.....also was partying hard at our little town 4th annual Bonfire Brewing block party... (sorry, you tube offline? So no link....) zxtttxz; Shoreline; love it but I think I liked the layout and vibe at Cal Expo better? How bout a 6/8-10 and 15-18/90 box, sans 16th as that was released.... Jim et el; like many, I was starting to move on by the time it ended. Hell I always tried to catch as many shows “as reasonably possible” but that meant having to balance regular life/work/money etc so my numbers were never huge.... As the music started to suffer, and the scene was often too big and too lame, and I was returning to collage in my thirties, I had began a natural progression that was basically I didn’t go unless it was easy/close and/or it was at a place I really dug. So really stopped traveling etc by 93....only saw 6 shows between 93 and the end.... When JG died it was hard, but it was almost a relief, like “ok, that’s over, now I can move on....” Which it sounds like you did also? I Actually worked merch on 96 Furthur Fest and would check in at easy/local other ones, dead, P&F etc.....but generally I switched gears big time, especially with my listening habits....so really was only interested in getting/hearing shows I was at....was kinda burnt on the dead for a while.... But due to my merch connections, I’ve been fortunate to see many great P&F, Futhur, the dead etc shows over the years at these awesome CO venues that I unfortunately did not see the GD at. ....will see D&C again in Boulder because it’s only a couple hours away, I have free lodging, and don’t have to drive etc. it’s also been (so far) a super chill vibe....though it is tough having to purchase tix after so many years of VIP etc, don’t think the actual tix are too outrageous compared to mainstream acts (same as they always were), but th3 service charges are a f#&*4$ joke! So although “it’s not the same”, I’ve actually seen some music on occasion that was as good as or better than some of the dead’s lackluster outings. Some of the late 90s P&F shows at the Philmore were amazing; Viola Lee, St Stephen, Dark Star etc, stuff we didn’t get to see live much, or at all! and I always thought Warren did a great job with the old blused based stuff, pigpen and even some Brent tunes. So why go? Jim said it all nicely; of course it’s not the same, was it ever? So what, it’s still fun and great to hang with all y’all and the music still kicks ass, PERIOD! It always has been worth the effort, and usually what ever they give us is still way better then most of the other crap out there, that costs even more, in shitty venues, with obnoxious, clueless crowds! I don’t see how people can dig phish so much but diss D&C? It’s a shame so many of you seem imho, closed minded about bands/eras etc,....it’s all been great some way or another! Even the FTW cash grab.... Same thing logistically with that; was not going to by tix, planes, hotels etc to go to Chicago (no offense) and stand in the back of a stadium etc. and Trey.....nothing against the dude, and he did a great job of trying to do an impossible job with no practice etc, but they could of done so much better.... I think they should of had a cast of guitar players; Warren for a bit, perhaps Trey for a couple, Campbell, Jimmy, helll they should of let Kimock up there too. I really think if you look at all the guys that have played the Guitar over the ensuing years, Trey was perhaps the least choice. Again, nothing against him! I really think they should of had junior Jerry. Imho, I think the Furthur lineup was one of the best, and that’s saying something because all the various groups were good.... I think Bill dissing John K.was so lame and rude...what, Trey wasn’t a “fake Jerry” in a cover band, how ironic! Let’s face it, they were worried they weren’t going to fill that giant stadium 3 nights, so they thought bringing in Trey, and Hornsby would help fill seats.....of course who knew there’d be such demand. But as I think icecrmcnkd said, just the tip etc. unfortunately they were not prepared enough, and a “tour” or perhaps a location or 2 of more blocks of shows would of perhaps been better all the way around? But again, it was still great, and lots of fun gathering with the crew and watching, I remember really enjoying the whole process and vide leading up too etc., THAT part was just as fun as the old days. I personally really like the SC “60s” show even if it was more sloppy than Chi town... One of these days there will be little or nothing to go see/hear and then all y’all will really have something to bitch about. ICECRMCNKD et el; I liked your comment about it did not matter as much about the rest of the band, but if one of the three guys with guitars in hand left there would be no GD. I think that’s really the crux of the thing....and as far as the band without Jerry....I think Phil said they were all like spokes on a wheel, but Jerry was the center frame that held it all together.... DAVEROCK; agree with...artists, hell many creative people, even just shrubs like some of us, no matter how well we do our jobs or whatever, there can be the feeling that we could of done better...... I build/design/install custom AV systems and Racks for the rich and sometimes famous, and no matter how well I do, I can always point out ways it could have been better! You often hear musicians, even the dead, say that it just kills them when they know they sucked, but people go nuts anyway......when I played people would do that after shows, and it was sometimes hard to be nice etc, like “what, are you kidding me? Did you actually hear any of that dog shit?” But of course as a musician you should never lose sight of the fact that if these nice people did not support your band, you’d have no gig! SETH BOX; “unlike anything we’ve done before....” that is very interesting isn’t it? How about making whole tours available, but letting us say pick seven shows of our choice? Could market it like different levels of product at different price points, depending on how much someone is into it etc..... Ok, back to work.

Yes, a box set will be released this year. Thank you.

I would bet they do it soon too. Perhaps around the 4th of July, if not before. They have already made the selection.. It's either being Normanized or slated to be Normanized.. they are deciding on the packaging and layout. Why wait?

They'll announce the box much sooner than MUATM ... MUATM will have one of those 2-minute promos showing some guy opening the box and showcasing what's inside.

why are the women (in my family) SO SLOW to get out the door in the morning? movie quote: "inconceivable!"

nice box set there although I don't think there is a Dark Star more Dark Stars, please