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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    The bank that Rip broke into looked a lot like a regular house.

  • carlo13
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    I heard about the bank incident. Funny as hell.

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    Damn, hadn't heard that til I saw Carlo's post. Guy was hilarious on the Larry Sanders Show. Another reason he's a legend is a drunken binge he went on several years ago had him outdoing Lee Marvin. Marvin was a notorious drunk, and one night, plastered, as usual, he drove himself home and found his keys wouldn't open the door, so he broke in, only to find out he had moved several years before, and the current owner was pretty pissed. Well, how does Rip top that? By doing the same thing, only he had stopped at a bank, and broken into the bank in the middle of the night thinking it was his house. Also, he was armed at the time, because, of course he was. How he got just probation is a sad tale for the American legal system, but I hope the old Salty Dog rests in peace.

    https://youtu.be/4uWXcuu5MY0

    Also, my favorite Artie line from Larry Sanders may be from what became the first episode, The Garden Weasel when he says to a new female network executive, "Don't take this as a threat, but I killed a man like you in Korea. Hand to hand."

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    Did I make it first . Could use it. Thanks let me know.

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    Need your address

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    Just sent!

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    A "burned"copy of Fillmore West 1969: The Complete Recordings + Bonus. I made it for someone who no longer needs it. First to PM me. I have an extra book for it as well.

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    Tales from The Gorge, Part 2: Shakedown

    As mentioned in Part 1 of the story, BIL (Brother In Law), and I had just gotten off the bus which had dropped us off all the way at the back of the lot. This was approximately ¼ - ½ mile from the entrance to the venue, which wasn’t so bad except for we were carrying a 12 pack (minus the 2 beers we drank on the bus) in a large bucket filled with ice. The lot looked to be almost completely full at this point with more cars cramming in. The atmosphere reminded me a lot of the tailgates we have here in KC at Arrowhead, except for folks were decked out in Dead gear, Tie Dye, and other various costumes & hippie wear. We trudged along, checking out the scene while I tried to call a friend of mine named Chuck who I had met the past year on Dead.net. Chuck is a KC native who has spent the last few decades living in the Seattle area and started sporadically touring with the band last year. Chuck and his crew of 7 tour buds were camping in the main public camping area at the Gorge which was visible to BIL and I from where we stood, but way up on a hill and very far away. I’m not sure how far it was, but it looked like a mile or more, up-hill, and with the heavy bucket weighing us down, we didn’t think it was worth the walk as by the time we got up there and found Chuck , we would have to start walking back or risk not getting into the show on time, which would have been entirely unacceptable. So, we opted not to take this particular trip. This turned out to be a catch 22 as we later found out that the camping area is where Shakedown was located at The Gorge which would mean no Shakedown for us this weekend, and also the logistics made it so I wasn’t ever able to meet up with Chuck  (next time my friend)……..but we ended up being correct about getting into the show on time, as many folks were still in line and missed some of the first set even after arriving at the entrance at least an hour before start time.

    When we arrive near the entrance, the place was a zoo. There were long lines already formed at will call and at the VIP/media entrance. We already had our tickets so this was not a problem for us. We did not have VIP entrance passes or wristbands for the VIP drink area inside, and being that Shakedown was no where in site, we decided to post up and take a seat on these large boulders that separate the parking from the entrance to the venue. As it turns out, this was a very fortuitous decision. There was already an old Deadhead biker dude who had done the same, so we cracked some beers and started shooting the shit with him. Turns out he was at Woodstock and saw the entire show including the Dead and the closing Jimmy Hendrix act. Wow, this was the first person I had ever met who could make this claim! About this time, another dude came around selling Stealie stickers for $1, so we checked those out, but nah we don’t want one, and as the dude walked off I said….”hold on a second wait! Would you be interested in trading one of your stickers for one of my buttons?” After checking out the buttons he was quick to agree, and so my button adventure had officially begun!!! I turned to Woodstock biker guy and said would you like one too? “Yeah, I’ll take one” he said with a big smile, and pinned it to his jacket. Holy shit….that was cool! I felt really good at that moment and started looking for others whom I could give away a button!

    As the song says, Once in a while you can get shown the light….and while the reason that I came was most certainly the music, followed by the communion with 20,000+ like-minded folks & freaks, giving away the buttons was without question my strangest of places if you look at it right. I made a few trades with them; a little bar of homemade soap shaped like a dancing bear, and a couple of stickers, but mostly I just gave them away. I only had 100 per night, so I was somewhat selective in who I gave them to. I chose people who had on Grate outfits, really cool Tie Dyes, or who showed a lot of spirit through good dancing, good deeds or just general happy nature and good vibe that I could feel. This was so much fun, and felt so good, I can’t even begin to describe it. Tears me up a little right now just thinking back to some of the moments. The smiles after giving these buttons were big, full and truly grateful for such a tiny trinket. I can’t tell you the number of people that would hold it up to their hearts, smile huge and then look me in the eye and thank me with all sincerity, after which some of them would give me a big hug like we were long lost friends or family and had known each other for years. Word was getting out a little, and some folks were starting to come up to me and either offer me trades and or ask outright if they could have a button. I didn’t once turn anyone down who asked for either. One filthy looking hippie dude came up to me and asked me if I would like to trade him for a used tube of CBD infused chap-stick, and I answered yes after hearing the word trade! “What, wait hold on a second…..no way man, I said laughing, after realizing what I had just agreed to. Keep your chap-stick and just take a button for free dude”! He then took the button, smiled that big smile I was getting used to, then like a true head, dead pan asked, “Do you want to hit my joint”?, as he held up a half-smoked fired up spliff. “Fuck yeah”, I say, taking the joint for a couple of puffs while we all laugh our asses off at the hilarity of the moment. Only at a Dead show, ha, ha….laughing now just thinking about it!

    Much has already been said about the line at The Gorge, and I have to agree the situation at the gate was in true Dead fashion, a complete clusterfuck. As early as 3 hours before (but probably significantly longer), the official start time of the show, we noticed that lines to the normal entrance were already started to form. We were not far from the entrance sitting on our boulders and it just so happened that the line formed almost directly into our spot, so without even having to move from our little party spot, we found ourselves already in line and maybe only a half of a city block from the entrance. Aside from tiny movements in the line we basically were able to stay in this spot until they started letting people in, which was maybe 1.5 hours before show time. BIL and I made friends with some of the folks around us in line, drank on our IPA’s, smoked a few joints along with our oil pipes, and I gave away buttons. Before we knew it, the line started to slowly move forward, and our party moved with it.

    As we inched our way slowly toward the entrance, I started to get the munchies, so I figured now was just as good time as any to have the first serving of veggies. I pulled out the Wild Willie’s Reserve Joint tube where I had stored them and split them up equal, 2 parts for me and 1 part for BIL. I ate mine and then handed BIL his share which he happily gobbled down. I had asked some folks in line earlier about security, and specifically marijuana being that it is legal in Washington. Due to legality, no one seemed to think it would be an issue and so I took no security precautions whatsoever as we approached security, and left all of my pre-rolled joints (3 or 4 left at this point) in the plastic tubes that they came in. Boy were they wrong, and was I stupid!!! We were getting really close now and I still had a few unopened beers in the bucket (BIL is not much of a beer drinker). I gave away a couple of “miracle” beers, popped a top and guzzled one myself, paying little attention to what was going on in front of me at security. When we finally got to the metal detectors, my idiot plan was just to openly put all of my shit into the tubs they offer to pass around the metal detectors and so that’s exactly what I did. My lighter, plastic tubes full of pre-rolled joints, tube of veggies, wallet, phone, basically everything went into that fucking plastic tub. The next thing I know the dude is rifling through my shit in the plastic tub while stating “you can’t take this in”. One by one he reads each tube and says sorry this isn’t allowed, and then he yells “BLACK BAG, BLACK BAG”…..this chick then walks up with an already full trash bag and the dude drops all of my shit while she calmly smiles at me….”No, you can’t…..but that’s my….” I start to say, but it was too late. FUCK, FUCK, FUCK!
    BIL has a similar experience, as did a lot of other folks in line. They were going through everything; blankets, bags, jackets etc….even dumping out full boxes of cigarettes to find the hidden joints inside. The one thing they were not doing is full pat downs, so everything left in the pockets was fine. Luckily, I had forgotten to put my oil pen in the plastic tub and BIL had purposefully omitted his so those got through. Since the tube with the last helping of veggies was not sealed, the guy slid the tube open, I guess he must of looked at the empty side or just didn’t notice because he politely handed that tube back to me. Tragedy narrowly averted there.

    Now being robbed of our goods we regrouped, quickly took inventory of what we had left which was very little and congratulated each other on not being arrested. As my good friend Jeff would say who designed the buttons, Onward!!!

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    $90 out the door including tax from a local brick and mortar.

    Morning Dew sounds great so far. Going to spin side 1, then go outside for a while with the dog. Once the sun has set I’ll be back on the couch to spin the rest of the show and watch TDF on mute.

    Let’s stick with the 80’s as the third release and go with 3-9-81. We know there are good sounding recordings of that show.

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    I just read the Earthquake article in the New York times and these foreshocks as they say could be a warning. You live in this area? What is it like in the public? Are people still on eggshells? What are you thoughts. Be safe.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Right on, Oro..

This won't come out right no matter how I say it, so here it is. I get the feeling they stretch the three show Monty into four and six (or 30 show) box sets to slip in the occasional filler show that might otherwise not be fit for prime time.

I am not immediately against this, as some of these lesser tiered offerings have their moments and their cost per disc model (defects aside) works, sort of.

Just saying.. I do like the quick hit, three or four and done. My favorite size.

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Mabey betty and barney hill were listening to Dap 30s Dark star when they saw that ufo? I'm just saying..

I don't smell smoke very often at gigs these days. . Everywhere else I go, but not the gigs...

I'm not so sure about the new idea of developing youtube as a resource. I suppose its okay if you are set up for it-but I tend to just look at 3 minute clips with my laptop balanced on my knee. I can't imagine sitting here watching anything more substantial than that really. I hope this doesn't reduce the resources available for producing high quality cds and vinyl.

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The biggest gap in my collection is the Europe 72 box (mainly because i couldn't afford it at the time). I do have about 10 of the individual shows but I couldn't tell you one from the next. Don't get me wrong, that's one of my favorite eras...They were absolutely at the top of their game and its great hearing pigpen on keys mixed with Keith's jazzy piano, but there just wasn't that much variety.
That being said, I think there is a pretty big difference between the Europe 72 box and the 30 Trips Box. I hope that I'm pointing out the obvious here...but i think that most people who purchased the 30 Trips Box probably have the ability to almost guess what year the show took place, because they were constantly changing year after year...The variety of songs, sound, personnel, etc...is like no other box ever released by one band. Definitely one of my most prized possessions, in my opinion and I'm extremely grateful...but I'm anxiously waiting for 30 Trips volume 2. {~};-}

P.S. --- Thank's LEEDESJ for clearing up my Black Peter confusion...your explanation makes more sense and logical.

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I was at the concert at MSG. Roger explained to the crowd that he is drastically allergic to smoke. It wrecks his singing voice. He has had vocal cord surgery in the past few years. It's not as though he's been complaining for 50 years about pot smokers in the front row. Can we cut the guy a break? He did not chastise until after his request went ignored. I smoke at the Garden all the time, but I go to the bathroom. There's nothing difficult about that. The real who has been dead since 1978, but Pete and Roger still put on a rock and roll show that is better then most of the rock acts touring these days. I mean come on, if smoke irritated your throat enough that you cannot physically tolerate to be in a room of smokers, where you had been comfortable for 50 years prior, let's say at a party, and you ask those people to smoke outside, and they blow you off, wouldn't you be a little bit annoyed too? Especially if it was cancer it was removed from your throat? I've been reading about Roger for years, and you can be sure that his greatest concern is that he won't be able she seemed well for the crowd. That's what's important to him. He has vaporizers and shit backstage and on stage to keep vocal cords in top shape. You can bet that shity David Lee Roth doesn't make any kind of effort to make himself actually capable of singing his own songs well in concert. And for shit sake, more and more Rock shows are being exposed for having lead vocal track tapes and lip-syncing. He puts it all out on the line. He has a right 2 can plain after the request goes unheeded.

Also, the who ticket prices at Citizens Bank Park are like $37. At least the last time I checked few days ago. The band has no control over a ticket that has been scalped for more than the face value. What I am saying is that the who is way more ticket price friendly then even The Grateful Dead 50th anniversary and the recent dead and Company ticket prices. And a portion of every ticket sale goes to teenage cancer relief charity. Lastly, the Rock community is a better place with them. It's difficult to call them a hack when Garcia was falling asleep on stage, 20 years younger than Daltrey.

Edit: I rechecked the ticket prices and took a screenshot that I now have as my avatar. They are as low as $11 to get in, I call that a bargain, the best I ever had; Long live rock I need it every night; it's the singer not the song that makes the music move along; inside outside leave me alone, inside outside know where is home; it's only teenage wasteland; the sun shines and people forget; listening to you I get the music, gazing at you I get the heat, following you, I climb the mountain, I get excitement at your feet; they decide and the shotgun sings the song; accepting one note, pure and easy, playing so free like a breath rippling by; let's see action, let's see people, let's see who cares; imagine a man, not a child of any revolt, but a plain man tied up in life; I spill out like a sewer hole, yet still receive your kiss, how can I measure up to anyone now after such a love as this?; meet the new boss same as the old boss.

Jimmy, I JUST watched the Seinfeld raincoat episode last night. And of course we were totally cracking up. It was probably, literally, as you were posting that link. Is there a better duo in comedy than Frank and Estella Costanza???
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Excellent rebuttal of criticism regarding Daltrey and smoke. Nothing against weed, but if the man feels it diminishes his performance, be polite and stop or go somewhere to toke up. I missed Keith Moon but I've seen them with Entwistle, the finest bassist I ever saw perform live.

Today's Who is outstanding, actually... Ringo's son, Zak Starkey flies around the kit like Moon and Pino Palladino capably fills Entwistle's shoes. After all these years Pete has become a fine rock guitarist. They're trying to sneak in a new song or two but the set list generally kills.

After the Stones come through town, I'm taking my 8 year old son to see The Who. He's seeing The Who and The Rolling Stones in the same summer. Lucky kid.

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Good morning and happy Friday Heads! May is truly a glorious time for deadheads! There are so many excellent shows played in May over the years...It has been hard for me to stay on top of the listening to May shows in chronological order. Right now I'm enjoying a show from last years box set played in Vancouver on this day in 1974. While I eagerly amount the announcement for the upcoming box set, I would be lying to say I am not in over my head. What are your thoughts on the PNW 73/74 box? There was never much discussion on these shows. Enjoy the day and weekend ahead.

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Good catch on the Casey Jones played on Billions. But the truly insane part of that episode that would have made KeithFan2112's head explode was when they played the intro to 2112 during the spin class. I feel quite confident that is the first time that has ever happened and am also quite sure Rush never thought that particular piece of music would ever hit a popular tv show. Tom Sawyer, maybe, but 2112? Madness!!!

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After years of being told it was a great show, I finally started watching it this spring. Paul Giamatti is fantastic. I got through about four episodes and gave up. A little too unrealistic for me and I just had a hard time buying into the plot line. I prefer Silicon Valley. To me it is far more realistic and cutting edge. Very sarcastic and funny as hell. At least until T.J. Miller left the show. A ton of quick barbs. "Our platform does exactly what it says it does. It's not like we're fucking lying, like Theranos."

The Who is still touring? Can't be. I saw them on their farewell tour back in 1982. Two days after my first Dead show. That was a good weekend.

I'll give a nod to a Carrier Dome release. At least we could finally hear the AJS from 84 in its full glory. Given a choice though, I would take the summer 85. 6/27 - 7/1. More varied set lists and some rare songs. Down at the Bottom, Superstitious, Keep on Growin, Cryptical, etc. I'm doing this from memory, so I am sure there are more.

Oro is correct. Saratoga was always a blast. We were at 84 and it rained like hell. The rain continued straight through to the 85 show. It rained in 88 too. Something about that place attracts bad weather. We were fortunate enough to get inside the pavilion. 6/30 gets all the love, but 6/27 was my favorite of the tour. High energy, a long first set and a unique second set. Double encore too if I recall.

A long, long drive through the night to Hershey. Rain, construction and more rain. Why is it that the highways in PA are perpetually under repair? It has been that way my whole life. Another soaker in Hershey. I know a lot of folks like this show. I don't, but will take it as part of a box. The skies finally parted in MD. Two great shows to end our tour. The more I look back upon it, in my opinion, it was the last great summer tour.

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Buenos Dias Rockeros! Happy Friday.

MUSTIN321; I can relate to your feelings on E72. When that came out my thoughts were “that’s a lot of scratch for much of the same thing”. I had sorta taken a step back from the comprehensive Dead scene, so spending large chunks on yet more Dead didn’t make sense then......but then I turned into a total Dark Star Freak. Yea, the longer, bigger, and weirder the better! So like you I started to buy the E72 shows ala carte, but unfortunately they sold out. So now I’ve been pissed at my self for not grabbing them all while I could.......not trying to contradict you, just throwing out the idea that those Dark Stars, and Other ones etc, are all very unique and you may want to check them out. I can totally understand not worrying 100% about the rest....so much Dead, so little tile etc.....but you oughta try and check out those monster Jams....”Primo” as our amigo Love My Girl would say! Hopefully this isn’t offensive or didn’t come out wrong, just hoping I can spare others the same grief, and personally, nothing transports me these days like getting my space suit on and firing up a monster DS!

The Who. Like the Stones, always had sort of a love/hate thing going on...love the amazing music they produced, live sort of hit or miss, but both could be sorta douchey sometimes. The Who particularly turned me off with all their retirement/comeback cash ins, and Pete can be a pompous ass. But fortunately I try and appreciate artists, professionals, even politicians somewhat for what they do at work and not their personal BS. You know “judge yee not....” etc. So that being said, they are still pretty dam good, especially by today’s standards. Too me it’s worth checking them out just for Zac if nothing else. Dude is awesome and can total bring that Moon shit like no other, amazing! And of course Pino’s pedigree speaks for itself. Pete’s Pete, and Daltry’s hanging in there considering his physical issues. If he asked nice, and someone was a douche, then yea, he should tell em to “bugger off mate”
Besides, if your going through all the motions to go see someone you really dig, wouldn’t you want to get the best performance possible?

BOX SIZES; you would think at this point they would mostly hit that 3-6 show mark, because besides those Fall 80s shows what else could they really gather enough quality material for a large box. As Jim said you have to wonder if there adding, well not filler, as we appreciate all the shows in some way or another,...like little blessings from the Tape Gods...but some folks even spoke of this with the PNW box last year i.e., that perhaps some of the shows were not equal to others in the box....of course we picky Heads always want the best and have high standards, but it has to be somewhat challenging to overcome all the different variables to produce the actual final product. So to produce a great box with a different theme ala PNW, yea, they might have to slip a B+ or A- show in there sometimes....how many tours were totally A+ consistent throughout? E72, spring 90, Fall/Winter 73, spring/summer 77 and ??
Like it or not, we do live in a capitalist society, and Rhino isn’t doing all that work just to feed our Jones. So marketability has to factor in too. That’s why I don’t see the whole enchilada happening with the Fall 80 stuff....perhaps a 2 or 3 part over time like they did with spring 90? (If the tapes exist?)
So it does seem like when you consider all that, that the 3-6 show sweet spot is probably best, and more affordable, especially if/when they get into the later stuff as that was their touring MO.; i.e., 3 show runs. Can you imagine say releasing only two of a three or four night run. For sure some folks would be bummed because the one show they skipped was their personal...(fill in the blank)....hell just consider how some of us felt about which late 71 shows, or the Berkeley 72 shows were picked or not for Dave’s? The bottom line is we’re spolied rotten and though the process may not be perfect, the stuff we get is all pretty dam sweet! I just wish they’d stop the limited addition stuff so folks who can’t pull the trigger for what ever reason can perhaps score stuff later, wether still retail/new or on the secondary market. The PTB don’t seem to have any problems with the pre-sale methodology like the 50th anniversary stuff. So don’t see why they couldn’t do that with boxes. You would think after all these years they have a pretty good idea of how certain things will sell. So set a target number, roll out the pre-sales, then redial in your actual production runs accordingly? Sorry to ramble, just a thought....

Be well Dead people and have a great weekend!

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Also in this episode was a take on Sing Me Back Home...not sure who was singing it but it was not a GD version. Merle Haggard would be the best guess, I suppose!

Roger that Mr. Daltrey but will definitely keep this head out of the front row 😊 won’t get fooled again...edibles don’t cut it for me unless they are fungal in nature.

You tube channel - Dave mentioned subscribing which I did but he also mentioned getting notifications? Does anyone know how to do that?

Looking forward to the box set...think it will be 80s!

Make it a Grate weekend Dead People!

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Couldn't care less about story, dialogue, character development, plot points. Just give me the classic four behemoths battling it out for two hours and my inner child will smile, smile, smile.

And I love that they've made Mothra into an absolute badass, dive-bombing through the sky ninja-style.

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With the Seinfeld raincoat reference, I was reminded of the lone Grateful Dead reference in a Seinfeld episode. It is tough to make out, but visible to a discerning eye. In the airport pickup episode (George has to pick up Jerry and Elaine at the airport and gets rerouted twice between JFK and La Guardia), Kramer drives and there is a brief shot where the hood is slightly visible and there is clearly a Steal Your Face painted across the hood of Kramer's car. My theory is that Kramer likely wasn't a Deadhead, but picked up the car on the cheap...

I don't think you sound offensive at all...I know what you are saying about each Dark Star/Other One being unique...it'd be more difficult for a 20-30 minute, basically free-form song to sound the same each time...and I've heard the entire tour multiple times and there's no way I could listen to a random Dark Star from that tour and say, "oh, thats the one from Lille..." or something like that. But I might be able to tell the difference between a 72 Dark Star and 73 Dark Star...on a good day.

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Glad you understood and more so glad you’ve had the pleasure of all those awesome DSs....
Dont feel bad, I don’t know them all yet well enough to discern one from another either.
Frankly, I don’t know how all these guys have time 😉 I can usually tell what year something is, possibly even which tour, but unless I’ve spent a lot of time with a individual show, or there’s some obvious tell, I can’t id them like that.

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I love the Grateful Dead guessing game. Give me 5 minutes of any E72 Dark Star, and I'll nail it.....maybe :D

I go to my cousin's for 4th of July and NYE and there's always a mix that includes the Sirious Radio Dead. I am about 15 / 16 on getting the correct song version for anything before 1979. The only one I missed was Scarlet / Fire. I mixed up the two from the July 1978 Box Set. I guessed 7/7 Red Rocks but they were playing 7/3 St. Paul. I knew it was St. Paul too, but I started second guessing myself. I started thinking, well what would Dave play? He'd go with Red Rocks....grrrrrr.

Of course I'm like a circus clown to half the crowd there. "Thanks, yes, quite a talent? oh well, believe it or not it's kind of easy - there are a lot of context clues to listen fo.....what? yes, yes, I have a job. See, if I don't hear Pigpen, but I do hear two drummers, I know it's somewh....huh? yes it's a real job, it pays the mortgage, puts food on the table......"

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I also caught The Who Monday night at MSG, and let me say, anyone who thinks they are "hacks" or "over the hill" is wrong. They were spot on! Since Roger had his throat surgery, and continues to have that situation monitored closely, he sounds very strong. Hard to believe he is 75 years old.
This time around they have a full orchestra with them, and Tommy & Quadraphenia never sounded better! After all, these tunes were written for an orchestra and they were absolutely moving. And when they finished off with Baba O'Riley, the young lady in the first violinist's chair was able to do justice to that manic, gypsy fiddle part!
As far as the pot issue, Roger had asked nicely early on for the folks to desist, or to take it elsewhere, less they threaten his voice and therefore the show. So cut him some slack for that. He is just trying to give the best performance possible for the crowd. There has to be something said for that.
Rock on

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. . . 30 of the 31 Dark Stars from '72 are at https://archive.org/details/DarkStar_1972. They've been joined into a single, chronological recording (10/23 was omitted due to poor sound quality). Total length: 11 hours, 42 minutes, 37 seconds. The 11 Dark Stars from Europe '72 take up a little over 4 hours. The list of Dark Stars now includes timestamps to help locate each performance. SonicWallpaper, who deftly cobbled this together, apparently is close to uploading a similar treatment of all 1973 DarkStars. To paraphrase Oroborous: get your space suit on and fire up some monster DSs from '72!

Kramer NOT a Deadhead? What!?

Padawan? . . . oh, as in Jedi Padawan. Lot nicer than wannabe. (prescient, huh?)

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Started off on the drive in with the "quacking duck" Scarlet / Fire, which resides in this fine anniversary date of Tuscaloosa 5/17/77. After literally years of comparing, I've settled on this as my favorite Scarlet / Fire. It's long (25 minutes), and Garcia is on top of the solos. Donna's purring and moaning is good but not overdone 5/25 is overdone IMHO). Transition is great. Mutron ducks. Keith does play that psuedo organ that drives me nuts at Cornell. The '78 versions are almost all marred by a certain slide guitar padawan. Yeah, this is it. 5/11 is my 2nd fav, and 2/3/78 from DP18 is probably my 3rd. Believe it or not, I really like The Closing Of Winterland version. And I'm a sucker for Return To Normal, aka DaP 7 - Let It Burn Let It Burn Let It Burn. 5/13/77 would have me if the Scarlet wasn't castrated at 7 minutes.

Big Who fan here. I saw them as close as one could see the original band. I got into them at 10 yrs old, right after they broke up in '82. Finally got to see them in '89 as a 17 year old, and as cool as it was to see them live, Townshend was playing acoustic guitar only, and there was a whole orchestra and backup singers - not cool in hindsight, and doesn't sound cool on record - but it was better than nothing at the time. Next saw them play Quadrophenia which was my favorite album, and it was bonkers. Townshend still on acoustic guitar, but Zak had joined the band. Getting there. In 2000 I saw them from the 4th row. Townshend on electric guitar finally. Entwistle still alive, Daltrey sounding great, and Zak still on the drums - a little Keith Moon behind the kit - I mean it's unbelievable how much he drums like Moon, though make no mistake, Zak is a calculated time keeper, and Moon was the Tasmanian Devil. And Rabbit Bundrick was on keyboards, which is just fine, as any Who fan will attest. But the best part was the set list. The Who revisits their past in phases - first Tommy in '89, then Quadrophenia in '96. In 2000, they were very heavy on the Who's Next / Lifehouse material, so we're talking deep cuts. And Townshend looked more excited to be wielding those electric guitars more than the fans; it's like he finally said "fuck my hearing, I miss this too much". Sorry for the long post, but you have to check out this set list:

1) I Can't Explain
2) Substitute
3) Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere *
4) I Don't Even Know Myself *
5) My Wife
6) Baba O'Riley
7) Relay *
8) Bargain *
9) I'm One
10) Pinball Wizard
11) The Real Me
12) Who Are You
13) Magic Bus
14) Behind Blue Eyes
15) You Better You Bet
16) 5:15
17) Won't Get Fooled Again

Encore:

18) The Kids Are Alright *
19) Let's See Action *
20) My Generation

If there's an asterisk, it means there was no way in hell you would have thought they would have played these tunes - it had been THAT long since they went there.

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So My DaP30 came without the bonus disc (subscriber). I sent a nice email to Dead.net about the snafu, and today I got my bonus disc, attached to yet another copy of DaP30. Thanks Dead.net. My only miscue EVER by dead.net and they went above and beyond in correcting. Thanks y'all.

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I did forget to mention Zack. He is unbelievable! He has now been their drummer for over 20 years. With Ringo as his dad, and Keith Moon as his godfather, what do you expect? Keith gave him his first drum kit. Check our Amazing Journey / Sparks to see him at his best.
Pino left the band years ago.
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Keith fan I copied this a few years ago, look familiar?

QUACK....QUACK.....QUACK. QUACK, QUACK-QUACK-QUACK. What was that!? Oh..Quacking Duck Fire on the Mountain, Tuscaloosa, 5/17. That's right - the immortal Scarlet / Fire that was so good even Jerry regretted it. Recalling that performance years later, Jerry reflects....

"I was chilling out, taking it easy up there after the transition into Fire on the Mountain, and... a nice buzz started creeping in after a fan passed a joint our way...that happened all the time in those days, where they'd spark one up and hand it off to one of our security guys; and then Ramrod or Bear or one of those guys would get a hold of it for "testing" - their words, not mine - and it eventually made its way to us."

"After the intense Scarlet performance, I thought it would be a hoot to ease back and play to this great buzz I was feeling, which was really not an unusual thing for us...and you have to understand, I use the Mu-tron on tunes like Fire on the Mountain and Estimated Prophet, you know, to get a little bit more of a snarky sound than just a traditional wah wah pedal. On that particular night, in the light haze of a cool buzz, the Mu-Tron ended up sounding like a duck-call of sorts."

"I didn't think much of it at the time....but as it turned out, within the tape trading circles (which had blossomed into full swing that Spring), it simply came to be known as 'Quacking Duck' Mountain. After that show in Tuscaloosa, people would start hollering 'Duck! Duck!' every time we grooved our way into Fire on the Mountain...and it was really just...I mean what else can I do? Bring a monkey onstage? It came to be expected, like Townshend and the guitar smashing; and people got upset when I wouldn't do it. I know how he felt - 'Smash your guitar Pete, smash your guitar!' Well, what you have to realize, is that it's the spontaneity of a moment like that which makes it special; and you can't just REPRODUCE spontaneity man - it's a paradox, you dig? 'Play Quacking Duck Jerry, play Quacking Duck!' I'm sorry, I can't do it. It got to be a weight around our necks, but eventually we moved on."

"Tuscaloosa was the only time I ever did it, and to be sure, I did see a line of fuzzy little yellow ducks marching across stage...It was weird man, really really weird...beyond the pale..."

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Since this release is a numbered limited edition and has sold-out this must mean that they sent you someone else's (non-subscribers) numbered Dave's Picks Vol. 30.

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....that the splattering ice cream on top of cone kids head on the E72 cover spells out LIVE? Check it out when you get a chance.

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...Jerry debuts the ‘Tiger’ !!! Two Primo Shows in the Summer Of 1979...

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8/4/79 Grateful Dead - Oakland Auditorium Arena, Oakland, CA
Set #1- Jack Straw, They Love Each Other, Mama Tried> Mexicali Blues, Peggy-O, Minglewood Blues, Tennessee Jed, El Paso, Althea, Lost Sailor> Deal

Set #2- Passenger, Friend Of The Devil, Samson & Delilah, Shakedown Street> Playin' In The Band> Drums> Space> Stella Blue> Sugar Magnolia
Encore- U.S. Blues
(first Althea, Lost Sailor; Jerry debuts his Doug Irwin "Tiger" guitar)

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8/5/79 Grateful Dead - Oakland Auditorium Arena, Oakland, CA
Set #1- Mississippi Half-Step> Franklin's Tower> Me & My Uncle> Big River, Candyman, It's All Over Now, Brown-Eyed Women, Lost Sailor> Althea> Promised Land

Set #2- Scarlet Begonias> Fire On The Mountain, Estimated Prophet> Eyes Of The World> Drums> Space> Ollin Arageed*> Not Fade Away> Wharf Rat> Around & Around
Encore- Bertha> Good Lovin', Johnny B. Goode
(*w/Hamza El-Din)
...Holy Toledo! 🙏❤️😎

....it wouldn't have taken 46 years to notice. But it's there.
I was gonna bet the Sharks would somehow score on a high stick goal that wasn't seen. Glad I was wrong.

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Anyone know of a free one that doesn't have any trial restrictions?

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Try XLD (x lossless decoder). I use it on Mac but I believe there’s a Windows version if that’s your flavor.

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I'm impressed by your ability to recognize the different Dark Stars...and anyone else who can.
You really have to love a band...actually it's probably more than love, it's a lifestyle.

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Thank you everybody!

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I’m behind but still plugging away...5/7/72 Bickershaw Festival today....right after Ramble On Rose, Bob says:

“I don’t know what y’all are burning out there but it smells awful”...damn potheads are everywhere it seems...get off my lawn!

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It would be a challenge on the dark stars for sure, with only a five-minute clip. But 10 minutes no doubt :D. But that's not saying much, I'm sure a lot of people could do a 10-minute clip.

I got in a good chunk of The Munich Invasion 5/18/72. Another top 7 for me.

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I finally had a chance to finish this release.

It is like two different bands on each night. I would be kinda pissed if back in the day I had gone on 1/2 and missed the next night. The bonus disk puts this one over the top. Probably the best bonus disc of the entire series. Love the Aligator jam.

If the full show is not available, Dave needs to somehow get 9/19/70 released on a bonus disc.

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I've been revisiting this box for the last week. What an awesome collection of shows. WOW. Cornell is amaaaazzzing, and that Help Slip Franklins to open the next night is incredible. All four shows are stellar!

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I got this Album two weeks ago. It is a fantastic concert with a good sound. The bonus disc, too.
But, but ... the vocals of the group members are nearly almost on the right channel. Why? Today the are modern technologies to mix it better.
David, can you do it better?
Thanks
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4 29 80 goes from terrapin into jam

The car in front of me as i approach has gold syf and a sticker reading DRUMS (lightning bolt) SPACE

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