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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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    After all the comments on the bass enhancement for DaP 24 I decided to revisit that one - I have to say that while the bass is certainly prominent at points, I don't really find it distracting and it is really a good show. I am running a straight 2 channel set up with some large floorstanding speakers and no sub-woofer, which may be a factor. There is generally something about a sub-woofer that is uncomfortable to my ears and the large floorstanding speakers have plenty of bass.

    JiminMD, nice summary of the road trips stuff. Have to say that the 12/28/79 show is one of my favorite releases from '79, and that 11/15/71 Austin show is also a highlight. Also dig the 3/31-4/1/88 release as I was at both of those shows, so that adds an extra element for me.

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    The series was ok.. but had some spectacular must haves.. As daverock mentioned. I bet Mr. Jack Straw has them ranked..

    Some really do kick some serious ass though, off the top of my head:

    - Valentines Day 68. A stunner. Don't forget to pick your lower jaw off the ground when the final chords of Midnight Hour dissipate or you will have a mouthful of dirt and/or gravel when the spell finally wears off.

    - 5/15/70 (on sale now). The best sounding 1970 acoustic stuff released thus far, and if that wasn't enough to seal the deal a couple awesome electric sets for good measure. (Well.. there are a few acoustic songs on Bears Choice, but these sound every bit as good).

    - 12/28/79 (the other Betty recorded 79 release that escaped the rapid fire synapse exchanges of the famed HendrixFreak)

    - 5/23&24/69 Big Rock Pow Wow. Wow is right! With every listen I like it more.

    - 6/16&18/74. As Daverock mentioned.. not to be missed. A jazz masterpiece and a Grateful Dead classic. Contains my personal favorite Eyes of the World (or at least the last one I listened to).

    - 11/21/73. Goodness! What a great show.. has a little 11/20 just because..

    - A summer and fall from '71. Not sure which I like the best.. Summer has a Dark Star>Bird Song and Fall has the Dark Star > El Paso > Dark Star.. a real Bobby Dazzler to be sure.

    - 6/9/76 (and a little from 6/12). I think it has Sixtus' fav. Eyes of the World and the only official release (so far) with Mission in the Rain.

    - Bonus discs.. some of these are to die for.

    Honorable Mentions include From Egypt with Love, Spectrum 82, Fall 77, well.. all the rest I guess.

    They did go overboard on the recycled packaging concept. Enclosing them in apparently rough-cut recycled brown grocery bags so dark brown on some the artwork could barely be seen. Not to fear though.. they also sourced and mixed in some barely used sandpaper to stiffen up the covers and retain that scratchy, fine grit freshness that delicate CD's just love! And apparently when they were shredding up the paper bags a few of the master reels cut all chopped up too. What else would explain chopping up some of the shows the way they did (thinking 74, summer 71, 79 and a few others).

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    (sorry for the long post, for those under time restraints skip the jib/jab above and go directly to the executive summary below)
    ________

    I guess in summary.. under-rated.

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    Give it just a minute....

    https://youtu.be/yXbpxNghcCw
    ....and it will blow away.
    Give it just a little minute, give it just a little minute, give it just little minute now!
    Love Phil's dolphin dye.

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    Kenny.. check your PM / EMail.

  • Charlie3
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    Thanks for the feedback on Road Trips Fillmore release. Before I ordered I had sent an email to Real Gone asking if the release was currently available, and the response stated: "We finally got it in. Retail release date remains unclear as a large portion of our stock is still missing. But you can order from our site now." Just in case anyone was interested.

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    I'm still banking on....

    those two dead horses: '79 for DaP 31 and fall '72 for the box.

    A '79 for DaP 31 would seem to be the first since DiP 5 from 1996 (???!!!), at least according to my shelves. (Perhaps I have missed a release or two?)

    A fall '72 box would fly off the shelves while July 78 and PNW are still in stock.

    In 5 daze, we'll know about DaP 31 and in 23 daze we'll know the box.

    Yowzer! I sure hope I haven't jinxed anything...

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    All the 1978 talk brought me out of the weeds. I have never been a completist with the Grateful Dead releases-- I have skipped plenty of releases over the years (box sets, Dicks Picks, Road Trips and skipped 4 Dave's Picks before doing subscription in year 3 and subsequent years). I have surely skipped some good ones-- especially some Dicks Picks that I should have in my collection, but hindsight.... If given the choice, I will almost always skip 1976 shows, the 1974 compilation releases, anything post-Brent, and most box sets because of cost and familial responsibilities.

    That said, a couple months back someone on here did a listing of releases by year. I am missing releases from almost all eras/years. I almost never skip a Pigpen release (kick myself for not getting the Kings Beach Bowl 1968 release). For every year sans Pig with a significant # of releases, I skipped some-- except for 1978. I found that I have every 1978 release they have put out.

    So, 1978 must be one of my favorite years. I think it goes back to my tape trading days. One of my first tapes was Winterland 10/22/78 and I soon got 7/8/78 (my 8th birthday) set 1 and encore. Both stellar shows and I can say that the Scarlet/Fire through Going Down the Road Feeling Bad on 10/22/78 is some of my very favorite Grateful Dead. I absolutely love the From Egypt With Love release. Not much to say about 7/8/78 that hasn't been said (I got KISS stuff at my 8th birthday party) other than I never had the second set and WOW.

    Dick's Picks 18 February 1978 is seared in my mind. Another top notch Scarlet/Fire, a long Samson (broken string extends the intro jam), top of the line Truckin' and a rockin' Other One with a screaming Jerry jam in the middle.

    I could go on and on (the Lazy Lightning/Supplication from DiP 25), but why 1978 for me? The sets are more predictable than 1977, many times the band seems to run out of steam after Drums even on official releases and Bobby was doing his experiments with slide guitar in front of 10,000 people nightly. Well, I think that I overlook the valleys and feel that the peaks are so significant that they truly elevate the rest of the show. I have skipped every box because of cost-- except July 1978. I couldn't pass that one up. And I love it-- and agree that the 'hidden' gem of the box is 7/1/78. They had to have melted some country and western faces that day. Just a blistering set in front of what was surely an interesting crowd.

    That said, there have been some weaker 1978 releases-- DaP 7 and the MacArthur Court come to mind. Both are overrated, in my opinion, but am happy to have them in the collection.

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    will be announced on July 16th at 10 am.

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    I wonder... if they announce the new box during MUATM, does that mean there will be a pre-order email the following day? Like others mentioned, it seems odd that they would announce it first there...

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    I too pre-ordered that Road Trips (5-5-70) from Real Gone and got the e-mail around the original release date that it would be delayed. Mine showed up at the house (Chicago) this past Tuesday.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Right on, Oro..

This won't come out right no matter how I say it, so here it is. I get the feeling they stretch the three show Monty into four and six (or 30 show) box sets to slip in the occasional filler show that might otherwise not be fit for prime time.

I am not immediately against this, as some of these lesser tiered offerings have their moments and their cost per disc model (defects aside) works, sort of.

Just saying.. I do like the quick hit, three or four and done. My favorite size.

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Mabey betty and barney hill were listening to Dap 30s Dark star when they saw that ufo? I'm just saying..

I don't smell smoke very often at gigs these days. . Everywhere else I go, but not the gigs...

I'm not so sure about the new idea of developing youtube as a resource. I suppose its okay if you are set up for it-but I tend to just look at 3 minute clips with my laptop balanced on my knee. I can't imagine sitting here watching anything more substantial than that really. I hope this doesn't reduce the resources available for producing high quality cds and vinyl.

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The biggest gap in my collection is the Europe 72 box (mainly because i couldn't afford it at the time). I do have about 10 of the individual shows but I couldn't tell you one from the next. Don't get me wrong, that's one of my favorite eras...They were absolutely at the top of their game and its great hearing pigpen on keys mixed with Keith's jazzy piano, but there just wasn't that much variety.
That being said, I think there is a pretty big difference between the Europe 72 box and the 30 Trips Box. I hope that I'm pointing out the obvious here...but i think that most people who purchased the 30 Trips Box probably have the ability to almost guess what year the show took place, because they were constantly changing year after year...The variety of songs, sound, personnel, etc...is like no other box ever released by one band. Definitely one of my most prized possessions, in my opinion and I'm extremely grateful...but I'm anxiously waiting for 30 Trips volume 2. {~};-}

P.S. --- Thank's LEEDESJ for clearing up my Black Peter confusion...your explanation makes more sense and logical.

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I was at the concert at MSG. Roger explained to the crowd that he is drastically allergic to smoke. It wrecks his singing voice. He has had vocal cord surgery in the past few years. It's not as though he's been complaining for 50 years about pot smokers in the front row. Can we cut the guy a break? He did not chastise until after his request went ignored. I smoke at the Garden all the time, but I go to the bathroom. There's nothing difficult about that. The real who has been dead since 1978, but Pete and Roger still put on a rock and roll show that is better then most of the rock acts touring these days. I mean come on, if smoke irritated your throat enough that you cannot physically tolerate to be in a room of smokers, where you had been comfortable for 50 years prior, let's say at a party, and you ask those people to smoke outside, and they blow you off, wouldn't you be a little bit annoyed too? Especially if it was cancer it was removed from your throat? I've been reading about Roger for years, and you can be sure that his greatest concern is that he won't be able she seemed well for the crowd. That's what's important to him. He has vaporizers and shit backstage and on stage to keep vocal cords in top shape. You can bet that shity David Lee Roth doesn't make any kind of effort to make himself actually capable of singing his own songs well in concert. And for shit sake, more and more Rock shows are being exposed for having lead vocal track tapes and lip-syncing. He puts it all out on the line. He has a right 2 can plain after the request goes unheeded.

Also, the who ticket prices at Citizens Bank Park are like $37. At least the last time I checked few days ago. The band has no control over a ticket that has been scalped for more than the face value. What I am saying is that the who is way more ticket price friendly then even The Grateful Dead 50th anniversary and the recent dead and Company ticket prices. And a portion of every ticket sale goes to teenage cancer relief charity. Lastly, the Rock community is a better place with them. It's difficult to call them a hack when Garcia was falling asleep on stage, 20 years younger than Daltrey.

Edit: I rechecked the ticket prices and took a screenshot that I now have as my avatar. They are as low as $11 to get in, I call that a bargain, the best I ever had; Long live rock I need it every night; it's the singer not the song that makes the music move along; inside outside leave me alone, inside outside know where is home; it's only teenage wasteland; the sun shines and people forget; listening to you I get the music, gazing at you I get the heat, following you, I climb the mountain, I get excitement at your feet; they decide and the shotgun sings the song; accepting one note, pure and easy, playing so free like a breath rippling by; let's see action, let's see people, let's see who cares; imagine a man, not a child of any revolt, but a plain man tied up in life; I spill out like a sewer hole, yet still receive your kiss, how can I measure up to anyone now after such a love as this?; meet the new boss same as the old boss.

Jimmy, I JUST watched the Seinfeld raincoat episode last night. And of course we were totally cracking up. It was probably, literally, as you were posting that link. Is there a better duo in comedy than Frank and Estella Costanza???
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Excellent rebuttal of criticism regarding Daltrey and smoke. Nothing against weed, but if the man feels it diminishes his performance, be polite and stop or go somewhere to toke up. I missed Keith Moon but I've seen them with Entwistle, the finest bassist I ever saw perform live.

Today's Who is outstanding, actually... Ringo's son, Zak Starkey flies around the kit like Moon and Pino Palladino capably fills Entwistle's shoes. After all these years Pete has become a fine rock guitarist. They're trying to sneak in a new song or two but the set list generally kills.

After the Stones come through town, I'm taking my 8 year old son to see The Who. He's seeing The Who and The Rolling Stones in the same summer. Lucky kid.

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Good morning and happy Friday Heads! May is truly a glorious time for deadheads! There are so many excellent shows played in May over the years...It has been hard for me to stay on top of the listening to May shows in chronological order. Right now I'm enjoying a show from last years box set played in Vancouver on this day in 1974. While I eagerly amount the announcement for the upcoming box set, I would be lying to say I am not in over my head. What are your thoughts on the PNW 73/74 box? There was never much discussion on these shows. Enjoy the day and weekend ahead.

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Good catch on the Casey Jones played on Billions. But the truly insane part of that episode that would have made KeithFan2112's head explode was when they played the intro to 2112 during the spin class. I feel quite confident that is the first time that has ever happened and am also quite sure Rush never thought that particular piece of music would ever hit a popular tv show. Tom Sawyer, maybe, but 2112? Madness!!!

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After years of being told it was a great show, I finally started watching it this spring. Paul Giamatti is fantastic. I got through about four episodes and gave up. A little too unrealistic for me and I just had a hard time buying into the plot line. I prefer Silicon Valley. To me it is far more realistic and cutting edge. Very sarcastic and funny as hell. At least until T.J. Miller left the show. A ton of quick barbs. "Our platform does exactly what it says it does. It's not like we're fucking lying, like Theranos."

The Who is still touring? Can't be. I saw them on their farewell tour back in 1982. Two days after my first Dead show. That was a good weekend.

I'll give a nod to a Carrier Dome release. At least we could finally hear the AJS from 84 in its full glory. Given a choice though, I would take the summer 85. 6/27 - 7/1. More varied set lists and some rare songs. Down at the Bottom, Superstitious, Keep on Growin, Cryptical, etc. I'm doing this from memory, so I am sure there are more.

Oro is correct. Saratoga was always a blast. We were at 84 and it rained like hell. The rain continued straight through to the 85 show. It rained in 88 too. Something about that place attracts bad weather. We were fortunate enough to get inside the pavilion. 6/30 gets all the love, but 6/27 was my favorite of the tour. High energy, a long first set and a unique second set. Double encore too if I recall.

A long, long drive through the night to Hershey. Rain, construction and more rain. Why is it that the highways in PA are perpetually under repair? It has been that way my whole life. Another soaker in Hershey. I know a lot of folks like this show. I don't, but will take it as part of a box. The skies finally parted in MD. Two great shows to end our tour. The more I look back upon it, in my opinion, it was the last great summer tour.

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Buenos Dias Rockeros! Happy Friday.

MUSTIN321; I can relate to your feelings on E72. When that came out my thoughts were “that’s a lot of scratch for much of the same thing”. I had sorta taken a step back from the comprehensive Dead scene, so spending large chunks on yet more Dead didn’t make sense then......but then I turned into a total Dark Star Freak. Yea, the longer, bigger, and weirder the better! So like you I started to buy the E72 shows ala carte, but unfortunately they sold out. So now I’ve been pissed at my self for not grabbing them all while I could.......not trying to contradict you, just throwing out the idea that those Dark Stars, and Other ones etc, are all very unique and you may want to check them out. I can totally understand not worrying 100% about the rest....so much Dead, so little tile etc.....but you oughta try and check out those monster Jams....”Primo” as our amigo Love My Girl would say! Hopefully this isn’t offensive or didn’t come out wrong, just hoping I can spare others the same grief, and personally, nothing transports me these days like getting my space suit on and firing up a monster DS!

The Who. Like the Stones, always had sort of a love/hate thing going on...love the amazing music they produced, live sort of hit or miss, but both could be sorta douchey sometimes. The Who particularly turned me off with all their retirement/comeback cash ins, and Pete can be a pompous ass. But fortunately I try and appreciate artists, professionals, even politicians somewhat for what they do at work and not their personal BS. You know “judge yee not....” etc. So that being said, they are still pretty dam good, especially by today’s standards. Too me it’s worth checking them out just for Zac if nothing else. Dude is awesome and can total bring that Moon shit like no other, amazing! And of course Pino’s pedigree speaks for itself. Pete’s Pete, and Daltry’s hanging in there considering his physical issues. If he asked nice, and someone was a douche, then yea, he should tell em to “bugger off mate”
Besides, if your going through all the motions to go see someone you really dig, wouldn’t you want to get the best performance possible?

BOX SIZES; you would think at this point they would mostly hit that 3-6 show mark, because besides those Fall 80s shows what else could they really gather enough quality material for a large box. As Jim said you have to wonder if there adding, well not filler, as we appreciate all the shows in some way or another,...like little blessings from the Tape Gods...but some folks even spoke of this with the PNW box last year i.e., that perhaps some of the shows were not equal to others in the box....of course we picky Heads always want the best and have high standards, but it has to be somewhat challenging to overcome all the different variables to produce the actual final product. So to produce a great box with a different theme ala PNW, yea, they might have to slip a B+ or A- show in there sometimes....how many tours were totally A+ consistent throughout? E72, spring 90, Fall/Winter 73, spring/summer 77 and ??
Like it or not, we do live in a capitalist society, and Rhino isn’t doing all that work just to feed our Jones. So marketability has to factor in too. That’s why I don’t see the whole enchilada happening with the Fall 80 stuff....perhaps a 2 or 3 part over time like they did with spring 90? (If the tapes exist?)
So it does seem like when you consider all that, that the 3-6 show sweet spot is probably best, and more affordable, especially if/when they get into the later stuff as that was their touring MO.; i.e., 3 show runs. Can you imagine say releasing only two of a three or four night run. For sure some folks would be bummed because the one show they skipped was their personal...(fill in the blank)....hell just consider how some of us felt about which late 71 shows, or the Berkeley 72 shows were picked or not for Dave’s? The bottom line is we’re spolied rotten and though the process may not be perfect, the stuff we get is all pretty dam sweet! I just wish they’d stop the limited addition stuff so folks who can’t pull the trigger for what ever reason can perhaps score stuff later, wether still retail/new or on the secondary market. The PTB don’t seem to have any problems with the pre-sale methodology like the 50th anniversary stuff. So don’t see why they couldn’t do that with boxes. You would think after all these years they have a pretty good idea of how certain things will sell. So set a target number, roll out the pre-sales, then redial in your actual production runs accordingly? Sorry to ramble, just a thought....

Be well Dead people and have a great weekend!

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Also in this episode was a take on Sing Me Back Home...not sure who was singing it but it was not a GD version. Merle Haggard would be the best guess, I suppose!

Roger that Mr. Daltrey but will definitely keep this head out of the front row 😊 won’t get fooled again...edibles don’t cut it for me unless they are fungal in nature.

You tube channel - Dave mentioned subscribing which I did but he also mentioned getting notifications? Does anyone know how to do that?

Looking forward to the box set...think it will be 80s!

Make it a Grate weekend Dead People!

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Couldn't care less about story, dialogue, character development, plot points. Just give me the classic four behemoths battling it out for two hours and my inner child will smile, smile, smile.

And I love that they've made Mothra into an absolute badass, dive-bombing through the sky ninja-style.

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With the Seinfeld raincoat reference, I was reminded of the lone Grateful Dead reference in a Seinfeld episode. It is tough to make out, but visible to a discerning eye. In the airport pickup episode (George has to pick up Jerry and Elaine at the airport and gets rerouted twice between JFK and La Guardia), Kramer drives and there is a brief shot where the hood is slightly visible and there is clearly a Steal Your Face painted across the hood of Kramer's car. My theory is that Kramer likely wasn't a Deadhead, but picked up the car on the cheap...

I don't think you sound offensive at all...I know what you are saying about each Dark Star/Other One being unique...it'd be more difficult for a 20-30 minute, basically free-form song to sound the same each time...and I've heard the entire tour multiple times and there's no way I could listen to a random Dark Star from that tour and say, "oh, thats the one from Lille..." or something like that. But I might be able to tell the difference between a 72 Dark Star and 73 Dark Star...on a good day.

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Glad you understood and more so glad you’ve had the pleasure of all those awesome DSs....
Dont feel bad, I don’t know them all yet well enough to discern one from another either.
Frankly, I don’t know how all these guys have time 😉 I can usually tell what year something is, possibly even which tour, but unless I’ve spent a lot of time with a individual show, or there’s some obvious tell, I can’t id them like that.

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I love the Grateful Dead guessing game. Give me 5 minutes of any E72 Dark Star, and I'll nail it.....maybe :D

I go to my cousin's for 4th of July and NYE and there's always a mix that includes the Sirious Radio Dead. I am about 15 / 16 on getting the correct song version for anything before 1979. The only one I missed was Scarlet / Fire. I mixed up the two from the July 1978 Box Set. I guessed 7/7 Red Rocks but they were playing 7/3 St. Paul. I knew it was St. Paul too, but I started second guessing myself. I started thinking, well what would Dave play? He'd go with Red Rocks....grrrrrr.

Of course I'm like a circus clown to half the crowd there. "Thanks, yes, quite a talent? oh well, believe it or not it's kind of easy - there are a lot of context clues to listen fo.....what? yes, yes, I have a job. See, if I don't hear Pigpen, but I do hear two drummers, I know it's somewh....huh? yes it's a real job, it pays the mortgage, puts food on the table......"

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I also caught The Who Monday night at MSG, and let me say, anyone who thinks they are "hacks" or "over the hill" is wrong. They were spot on! Since Roger had his throat surgery, and continues to have that situation monitored closely, he sounds very strong. Hard to believe he is 75 years old.
This time around they have a full orchestra with them, and Tommy & Quadraphenia never sounded better! After all, these tunes were written for an orchestra and they were absolutely moving. And when they finished off with Baba O'Riley, the young lady in the first violinist's chair was able to do justice to that manic, gypsy fiddle part!
As far as the pot issue, Roger had asked nicely early on for the folks to desist, or to take it elsewhere, less they threaten his voice and therefore the show. So cut him some slack for that. He is just trying to give the best performance possible for the crowd. There has to be something said for that.
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. . . 30 of the 31 Dark Stars from '72 are at https://archive.org/details/DarkStar_1972. They've been joined into a single, chronological recording (10/23 was omitted due to poor sound quality). Total length: 11 hours, 42 minutes, 37 seconds. The 11 Dark Stars from Europe '72 take up a little over 4 hours. The list of Dark Stars now includes timestamps to help locate each performance. SonicWallpaper, who deftly cobbled this together, apparently is close to uploading a similar treatment of all 1973 DarkStars. To paraphrase Oroborous: get your space suit on and fire up some monster DSs from '72!

Kramer NOT a Deadhead? What!?

Padawan? . . . oh, as in Jedi Padawan. Lot nicer than wannabe. (prescient, huh?)

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Started off on the drive in with the "quacking duck" Scarlet / Fire, which resides in this fine anniversary date of Tuscaloosa 5/17/77. After literally years of comparing, I've settled on this as my favorite Scarlet / Fire. It's long (25 minutes), and Garcia is on top of the solos. Donna's purring and moaning is good but not overdone 5/25 is overdone IMHO). Transition is great. Mutron ducks. Keith does play that psuedo organ that drives me nuts at Cornell. The '78 versions are almost all marred by a certain slide guitar padawan. Yeah, this is it. 5/11 is my 2nd fav, and 2/3/78 from DP18 is probably my 3rd. Believe it or not, I really like The Closing Of Winterland version. And I'm a sucker for Return To Normal, aka DaP 7 - Let It Burn Let It Burn Let It Burn. 5/13/77 would have me if the Scarlet wasn't castrated at 7 minutes.

Big Who fan here. I saw them as close as one could see the original band. I got into them at 10 yrs old, right after they broke up in '82. Finally got to see them in '89 as a 17 year old, and as cool as it was to see them live, Townshend was playing acoustic guitar only, and there was a whole orchestra and backup singers - not cool in hindsight, and doesn't sound cool on record - but it was better than nothing at the time. Next saw them play Quadrophenia which was my favorite album, and it was bonkers. Townshend still on acoustic guitar, but Zak had joined the band. Getting there. In 2000 I saw them from the 4th row. Townshend on electric guitar finally. Entwistle still alive, Daltrey sounding great, and Zak still on the drums - a little Keith Moon behind the kit - I mean it's unbelievable how much he drums like Moon, though make no mistake, Zak is a calculated time keeper, and Moon was the Tasmanian Devil. And Rabbit Bundrick was on keyboards, which is just fine, as any Who fan will attest. But the best part was the set list. The Who revisits their past in phases - first Tommy in '89, then Quadrophenia in '96. In 2000, they were very heavy on the Who's Next / Lifehouse material, so we're talking deep cuts. And Townshend looked more excited to be wielding those electric guitars more than the fans; it's like he finally said "fuck my hearing, I miss this too much". Sorry for the long post, but you have to check out this set list:

1) I Can't Explain
2) Substitute
3) Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere *
4) I Don't Even Know Myself *
5) My Wife
6) Baba O'Riley
7) Relay *
8) Bargain *
9) I'm One
10) Pinball Wizard
11) The Real Me
12) Who Are You
13) Magic Bus
14) Behind Blue Eyes
15) You Better You Bet
16) 5:15
17) Won't Get Fooled Again

Encore:

18) The Kids Are Alright *
19) Let's See Action *
20) My Generation

If there's an asterisk, it means there was no way in hell you would have thought they would have played these tunes - it had been THAT long since they went there.

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So My DaP30 came without the bonus disc (subscriber). I sent a nice email to Dead.net about the snafu, and today I got my bonus disc, attached to yet another copy of DaP30. Thanks Dead.net. My only miscue EVER by dead.net and they went above and beyond in correcting. Thanks y'all.

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I did forget to mention Zack. He is unbelievable! He has now been their drummer for over 20 years. With Ringo as his dad, and Keith Moon as his godfather, what do you expect? Keith gave him his first drum kit. Check our Amazing Journey / Sparks to see him at his best.
Pino left the band years ago.
Rock on

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Keith fan I copied this a few years ago, look familiar?

QUACK....QUACK.....QUACK. QUACK, QUACK-QUACK-QUACK. What was that!? Oh..Quacking Duck Fire on the Mountain, Tuscaloosa, 5/17. That's right - the immortal Scarlet / Fire that was so good even Jerry regretted it. Recalling that performance years later, Jerry reflects....

"I was chilling out, taking it easy up there after the transition into Fire on the Mountain, and... a nice buzz started creeping in after a fan passed a joint our way...that happened all the time in those days, where they'd spark one up and hand it off to one of our security guys; and then Ramrod or Bear or one of those guys would get a hold of it for "testing" - their words, not mine - and it eventually made its way to us."

"After the intense Scarlet performance, I thought it would be a hoot to ease back and play to this great buzz I was feeling, which was really not an unusual thing for us...and you have to understand, I use the Mu-tron on tunes like Fire on the Mountain and Estimated Prophet, you know, to get a little bit more of a snarky sound than just a traditional wah wah pedal. On that particular night, in the light haze of a cool buzz, the Mu-Tron ended up sounding like a duck-call of sorts."

"I didn't think much of it at the time....but as it turned out, within the tape trading circles (which had blossomed into full swing that Spring), it simply came to be known as 'Quacking Duck' Mountain. After that show in Tuscaloosa, people would start hollering 'Duck! Duck!' every time we grooved our way into Fire on the Mountain...and it was really just...I mean what else can I do? Bring a monkey onstage? It came to be expected, like Townshend and the guitar smashing; and people got upset when I wouldn't do it. I know how he felt - 'Smash your guitar Pete, smash your guitar!' Well, what you have to realize, is that it's the spontaneity of a moment like that which makes it special; and you can't just REPRODUCE spontaneity man - it's a paradox, you dig? 'Play Quacking Duck Jerry, play Quacking Duck!' I'm sorry, I can't do it. It got to be a weight around our necks, but eventually we moved on."

"Tuscaloosa was the only time I ever did it, and to be sure, I did see a line of fuzzy little yellow ducks marching across stage...It was weird man, really really weird...beyond the pale..."

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Since this release is a numbered limited edition and has sold-out this must mean that they sent you someone else's (non-subscribers) numbered Dave's Picks Vol. 30.

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....that the splattering ice cream on top of cone kids head on the E72 cover spells out LIVE? Check it out when you get a chance.

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...Jerry debuts the ‘Tiger’ !!! Two Primo Shows in the Summer Of 1979...

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8/4/79 Grateful Dead - Oakland Auditorium Arena, Oakland, CA
Set #1- Jack Straw, They Love Each Other, Mama Tried> Mexicali Blues, Peggy-O, Minglewood Blues, Tennessee Jed, El Paso, Althea, Lost Sailor> Deal

Set #2- Passenger, Friend Of The Devil, Samson & Delilah, Shakedown Street> Playin' In The Band> Drums> Space> Stella Blue> Sugar Magnolia
Encore- U.S. Blues
(first Althea, Lost Sailor; Jerry debuts his Doug Irwin "Tiger" guitar)

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8/5/79 Grateful Dead - Oakland Auditorium Arena, Oakland, CA
Set #1- Mississippi Half-Step> Franklin's Tower> Me & My Uncle> Big River, Candyman, It's All Over Now, Brown-Eyed Women, Lost Sailor> Althea> Promised Land

Set #2- Scarlet Begonias> Fire On The Mountain, Estimated Prophet> Eyes Of The World> Drums> Space> Ollin Arageed*> Not Fade Away> Wharf Rat> Around & Around
Encore- Bertha> Good Lovin', Johnny B. Goode
(*w/Hamza El-Din)
...Holy Toledo! 🙏❤️😎

....it wouldn't have taken 46 years to notice. But it's there.
I was gonna bet the Sharks would somehow score on a high stick goal that wasn't seen. Glad I was wrong.

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Anyone know of a free one that doesn't have any trial restrictions?

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Try XLD (x lossless decoder). I use it on Mac but I believe there’s a Windows version if that’s your flavor.

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I'm impressed by your ability to recognize the different Dark Stars...and anyone else who can.
You really have to love a band...actually it's probably more than love, it's a lifestyle.

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Thank you everybody!

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I’m behind but still plugging away...5/7/72 Bickershaw Festival today....right after Ramble On Rose, Bob says:

“I don’t know what y’all are burning out there but it smells awful”...damn potheads are everywhere it seems...get off my lawn!

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It would be a challenge on the dark stars for sure, with only a five-minute clip. But 10 minutes no doubt :D. But that's not saying much, I'm sure a lot of people could do a 10-minute clip.

I got in a good chunk of The Munich Invasion 5/18/72. Another top 7 for me.

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I finally had a chance to finish this release.

It is like two different bands on each night. I would be kinda pissed if back in the day I had gone on 1/2 and missed the next night. The bonus disk puts this one over the top. Probably the best bonus disc of the entire series. Love the Aligator jam.

If the full show is not available, Dave needs to somehow get 9/19/70 released on a bonus disc.

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I've been revisiting this box for the last week. What an awesome collection of shows. WOW. Cornell is amaaaazzzing, and that Help Slip Franklins to open the next night is incredible. All four shows are stellar!

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I got this Album two weeks ago. It is a fantastic concert with a good sound. The bonus disc, too.
But, but ... the vocals of the group members are nearly almost on the right channel. Why? Today the are modern technologies to mix it better.
David, can you do it better?
Thanks
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4 29 80 goes from terrapin into jam

The car in front of me as i approach has gold syf and a sticker reading DRUMS (lightning bolt) SPACE

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