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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • JimInMD
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    That sounds like a worth endeavor, Ziffle.. I think I am going to consolidate what I have and rebuild in the same order myself. I do seem to have lossless versions of the NRPS material.

    Good thinking.

    One other thing about the Road Trips.. perhaps it's just me, but I think somewhere in the middle of this series, Mr. Norman figured it all out.. I think it's when he mastered his game.

    PM me if you want the missing parts.

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    You know what's underrated?....

    .... anything that's not 70's Dead.
    Good to hear from you Ziffle.

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    Jim's Road Trips eval + comment on 5/15/70

    Entirely agree with Jim's remarks on the Road Trips series. Very much underrated.

    Some additional comment on 5/15/70 - the HDCD encoding is superior, opening up the dynamic range considerably. What is especially neat, is to find (preferably lossless) copies of the two New Riders sets, which feature Jerry on pedal steel and Mickey on drums. One highlight, Bobby joins in for a country style version of Me & My Uncle in the late NRPS set, harmonizing the lead vocal with Marmaduke. The Dead's sets are just missing a few songs, but it is great to fill in the missing material, put it in the right sequence with the NRPS in the right place, and enjoy one of the few complete "Evening with the Grateful Dead" circulating. Works out to 3 hours (early show) plus 4 hours (late show). Incidentally if you do this (ripping the CDs), the HDCD encoding will be preserved so long as you make no modifications whatsoever to the audio (e.g. equalizing).

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    All this recent talk of the DaP 24 overbass....

    ....made me plop it in. Didn't hear it when it first came out, and I don't hear it now. I'm only 51, and my hearing is fine. Maybe I need to upgrade my speakers to hear it. Oh well. Along with the rush of the drivers it is.
    Speaking of drivers. Don't text and drive keithfan. We can wait.

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    Casey Jane's Addiction, you're damn right it was hot. Best D&C show I've attended so far. Last year's closer didn't have the mojo. Friday night, despite the irony of shutting down for an hour long rain and hail deluge during Cold Rain And Snow, wasn't stellar either. But Saturday night had a spark. We got hammed on Shakedown Street, my friend bought an overpriced if cool earring, then meandered up to about ten rows back, floor, on Bob's side.

    Everyone around us was so cool... really a great crowd vibe that night. I never moved during the entire set, not to pee, not to get a drink, or anything else. This is highly unusual. I could feel the magic, and wouldn't have missed a minute for anything. This music is alive and well, and Bob, Billy and Mickey are killing it. Mayer is amazing. He doesn't come on strong, he eases himself into these songs and they fit him like a glove. Oteil had that Amazonian warrior facepaint on again, and he was on a whole 'nother level. I'm sure Bill and Mickey would say they prefer playing with him to Phil. That's not a knock on Phil, it just is what it is.

    Buy the cd or download or whatever off nugs.net It's outstanding. And, fingers crossed, let's hope they do it again and again and again next year and for years after. There's a nice feature in this month's Guitar World on Bob and his new D'Angelico. He says it will take "years" for him to get everything out of it. Bless him.

    Saw Rose Hill Drive play a stellar Led Zeppelin set at the Fox Theater in Boulder last night. Those kids got talent.

    \m/

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    Keithfan2112, dig your posts, but I can't be the only one thinking it would be a shame if you careened into a guardrail, or oncoming traffic, just to provide us with another cool post.

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    Nice write up on Road Trips Jimbo.

    Still a mystery why there was no 1972.

    Austin 11/15/71 is my favorite. Complete show, Immaculate recording, immaculate performance, cool album art, has dark star, opens with a trucking with such awesome Reverb and volume to Jerry's guitar it sounds like he plugged in in my living room. I think there's a Brokedown Palace on there too. It's like a greatest hits record. Bonus disc totally awesome, especially the China cat which was missing from the main set.

    1974 wall of sound is my second favorite. Awesome recording for 1974, perhaps the best audio representation in my humble opinion.

    I would like 1973 more if it weren't for this buzz that I hear throughout a large bit of it.

    1978 is a must-have in my book because it has some of the only 70s Godchaux era Shakedown Street material. Lookout Stagger Lee! Also has that renowned Stella Blue which I'm still saving my Virgin listen for. I also really dig the Scarlet fire with the delay pedal that either Jerry or Bobby uses I forget.

    Oh cool. My car has Supernatural properties. I should have just sideswiped a very long concrete guardrail as I was texting, but I looked up and turned out of it I guess just in time. I say out of it because I really was halfway in to the concrete. Like my car can pass through concrete. Maybe it occurred while I was saying the word Godchaux and Keith didn't want me to go the way he went. That was crazy. I got to go contemplate what just happened.

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    Apologize in advance for my comment 11/20/78 set II Cleveland

    I can't think of 1978 without this show! I have posted many times before about this show and it's unique Second Set.. Nothing else like it from 78 due to Mr. Weir being a little "tardy" for the second set. Probably will never be released due to the patching that goes on. After a long Jam to open up the set we get the first Jack-A-Roe of the year. Also a Shakedown into If I had the World to Give... That is all, until i bring it up again next year.... sorry again bob t

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    Just now checking out the recorded live stream of this show...through the first set and it’s hot...a little elevated from the first night IMO

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    Road Trips re-evaluation

    After reading Jim's post I feel I was a little hasty in dismissing this series. I agree, all releases mentioned are superb - 2/14/68, and all the bonus tracks included in that release in particular-but lots of great music tucked away in there. I suppose I have overlooked them due to the box sets, Daves Picks, 30 Trips etc that have come out since the Road Trips disappeared.
    To state the obvious, it's incredible how many great releases we have had over the last 27 years or so. I never dreamed I would have access to all this when I first read of the tapes back around 1983 in the Blair Jackson book "The Music Never Stopped." I wondered then if I would ever get to hear any of the live music he recommended at the back of the book. Yes...and how!

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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Thanks Oroborous. That one's always bugged me. I thought wow, I thought I did too much partying in my time, but these guys just recycled an album title. And not some obscure live release, but a major studio LP. Psssst guys......you already got one called that....

I can't even fathom an entire museum devoted to the Dead. Actually I could. Sigh.....when I hit the lottery.....

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There's a good film clip of Abbie Hoffman being interviewed by David Frost on British television, from about 1970. It was a current affairs programme, and Frost had various luminaries from the underground in the interviewing seats. Ed Sanders was another one, I think. It all comes to a halt when Hoffman lights up a joint and invites the audience to leave their seats and join him in the spotlight. A motley collection of British hippies some of whom were writers for the Oz magazine-including Felix Denis and probably Mick Farren - do just that, and chaos momentarily rules. Then it goes off the air. Great stuff.

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45 years old today and over 45 minutes long....my brother bought me this on RSD, unwrapped today and spinning now.....I can tell your future, just look what’s in your hand!

See ya after while,

KCJ

Wait...you say I have to flip it half way through? So it’s interactive and it sounds better? Sign me up!!!

Edit: Last 5:

Greta Van Fleet - Anthem of the Peaceful Army
-this is a fairly new band here in the USA and this was my first listen to them. Lead singers voice reminds me of the late Shannon Hoon from Blind Melon (another phenomenal band). After I listened to this album I went ahead and made an eBay purchase of their most recent RSD release.

WideSpreadPanic -Till the Medicine Takes
Awesome new reissue of this came out the day before the most recent RSD...I stumbled across it at my local store this past weekend.....as LMG would say...it’s Primo!

Robert Johnson-King of the Delta Blues - Vinyl
Watched a recent documentary on the original Crossroads man on Netflix or Prime....inspired me to pick this one up...check it out!

Daves 30 - still loving it!

Europe 72 Vol 14 Amsterdam...still plugging along on the suitcase...trying to keep pace. May 77 and Pacific NW are taking a back seat on the magic carpet.....next year for sure!

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Hey when you win the lottery, Jim can stop tunneling and we can build that kiosk so anyone, can get any show they want, when ever they want it! 😉

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Jim’s been working on this for so long...I’d hate to see all of that work go for not....maybe let him keep going and tunnel his way up to the kiosk?

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I forgot about Pacific Northwest (6th Show). I once proclaimed, under severe face meltage conditions, that this show might contain one of the best Weather Report Suites ever. I ran it back a couple of days ago and it was still pretty damn good. I'm going with Eyes of the World and Wharf rat at the moment from that show. And U.S. Blues. I love the way Billy makes this song Swing in '74. And if you get one with the guitar turned up loud, it's extra good. One of the ones in this box set has some loud U.S. Blues guitar. Might be this one. Road Trips '74 definitely. It's still a marvel to me that they managed to get 1974 sounding as good as they have for the past several releases. Go Norman.

Oborious, Caseyjanes - oh no - Jim will continue to tunnel. Except he's going to have his own customized John Deere riding tractor drill bit attached to the front of that thing. We won't tell him where the funding came from, so that when he finally breaks through, he'll find us waiting there surprise party style. Then finished, it's going to be adorned with memorabilia and shall serve as the entrance way to the museum. There's going to be gold records and guitars and placards - not to mention all of the Deadnet Board Heads' avitar names and profile pictures; and on opening day, Jim's going to come out like Willy Wonka, wearing that red white and blue Uncle Sam hat that Jerry had on the first album cover . It will be called the JimInMD Honorary Walkway. Jim's Picks will play on overhead speakers 24x7, whether the place is open or not. I envision this to be a very long walk way, so there should probably be at least one bong hit station on the way, or at a minimum, maybe we'll just keep a weed fire burning somewhere, and force the smoke through some tunnel vents every 15 minutes. Stoltzy, 80sFan, and Sixtus will chair the 80s Committee,
Vguy and Icecrmcnkd will oversee the Hall Of Sound, where there's going to be a concert every night of a different Dead show on a state-of-the-art sound system and three dimensional Grateful Dead band up on stage. It'll look so real you'll think you're actually seeing the band . Everyone will be overpaid and underworked. We're going to do this like Disney World, where the walk through the line is an event in itself.......

to do but smile, smile, smile.....well, and win that lottery of course!
KF, Sounds even better than the bands plan!
Thanks guys for making me laugh/smile, had a shit day and really needed that.
EDIT: yeah that 5/21/74 is a real beaut eh! As I posted recently the first 2 74s were, well they weren’t 5/21 right!

Hi Dave interesting story about Hoffman. I like most of us followed him back in the day. More importantly I closely followed Ed Sanders. Big fan of the Fugs. As unpc as they are today they were as important as Lennie Bruce Mort Saul and lord Buckley ( with special shout out to FZ). The point I wish to make is Sanders as much as I disagree with his politics was the real deal. Hoffman on the other hand was a self promoting blowhard who had no real beliefs as his later choices proved. Listen to Tenderness Junction it will be interesting at least and way better rock than their ESP recordings

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The person who came up with the test must be in their 20's. To much joy of some I'm sure I rarely post because it is so hard to see the images on my phone. Thanks

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I'd rather finish the tunnel then rest our hopes on winning the lottery (or winning in Vegas).

Our odds are better, but we need to act quick.. with the release of the Swing and Jan 70 FE, if we don't finish the digging within the next 18 months there won't be enough great shows left to buy an island big enough to hold and keep us all.

We need a sizable island with ample clean water.. having priced several out.. All we have to do is tunnel another block and a half, under three houses and the big intersection at Warner Blvd (which is causing great distress). It's doable, and I feel we must continue in honor of all those people that were working on the tunnel and who's posts we no longer see... Let's do it for them. #FreeTheReels

I can't get off the last two releases.. I spent the last four days doing mandatory spring landscaping, but on the once every five years detail.. really pulling out the weeks, cutting down all the dead trees, four yards of mulch (and going strong) moving shit, planting much more shit.. and listening to lots of loud GD.. did another run of DaP30, plus another full run of #29. The more I listen to these two, the more I like them. I might be persuaded that the PITB sequence from 29 might just be the best part of the show. Then again it's the last part I listened to.

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Yes, at the end of the day, between about 1966 and 1972 being anti establishment was the fashion. Many people adopted the look, talked the talk and appeared to walk the walk....until something else came along. Not everyone who made psychedelic records took psychedelic drugs. I hold no great claims for authenticity myself-I always had a bridge back to the straight world.

For example, I can remember being busted in the mid 70s for a minuscule amount of hash. There were a few of us in court that day-we had been swept up outside the Glastonbury Festival-this was 1978 before it became what it is now- a bastion of the British entertainment business. Anyway, the man in the dock before me gave a speech about how cannabis should be legalised, and the hypocrisy of British society. I agreed with every word he said. He got sent to prison for two weeks. Gulp. When it was my turn to get up there, I didn't say a word. I got off with a £40.00 fine.

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...6/26/73 ‘Seattle Center Arena’ - Seattle, WA
From the box... it’s making me smile smile smile!
Love How Donna sings the song ‘You Ain’t Woman Enough’! Even the crowd gives her a grateful applaud & shout- out!...🙏❤️😎

....Keithfan where do I sign up? I lol'd at the "smoke tunnel" - that's just friggin GENIUS.
Keep on digging, Jimmy.

whoever mentioned trying to keep up with the '72 suitcase....that's me as well. It's a tough climb but someone's gotta do it. I think I am about half way through 5/11 - Rotterdam - and my recollection is that Dark Star is pretty good. Gonna keep chipping away...

Also let's not forget the anniversary today of One Famed 'Dick's Picks 3' from 5/22/77. I absolutely LOVE this one and it blew me out of the water when I first got it (as a VERY surprised twenty-something at Christmas time, my mom pulled a fast one on me and actually got ahead of my own knowledge of releases that year - I had no idea this was even released so it made it that much sweeter). I actually listened to this full show off the archive last week, and it's shame Dick/the GD weren't really doing the full gambit on all shows yet so they chopped this one up a bit. The full show is such a powerhouse but I have zero complaints on the actual release. Probably one of the best (if not THE best) Sugarees they played (I trust someone will contend this!). It turns into a mad-pickn' hoe-down in there. Then all the other awesome stuff that gets rolled up ...LL > Supplication; Disco Dancin', Help>Slip>Franklin's, Estimated>Eyes, Wharf Rat>Terrapin>Dew>Sugar Mag???? I mean, c'mon. The only thing missing is a Scarlet>Fire!

https://archive.org/details/gd1977-05-22.140278.sbd.miller.flac2496

How long til the Hall of Sound opens? I enjoy the idea of overpaid and underworked.

Sixtus

Elon Musk is also boring tunnels under LA, and the only vehicle that he really plans to send speeding down the tunnel is a Tesla semi truck filled with the reels that he got from the vault. He then plans to load the reels on a Falcon Heavy and send them to Mars where he has already built a Terrapin Station Theme Park. Few earthbound DeadHeads will ever make it to Mars to listen to those reels.
Where’s Zuckfun when you really need his absconding skills?

Why yes, I am a robot.

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This one must have blown your minds when it came out. First release from 1977 right? Donna sounds so good on The Music Never Stopped. I can't think of a song that showcases her voice any better than this. And this particular version is perfect for her parts.

P.S. - I meant to add - when Jim finally pushes through and we're there for the unexpected party, he emerges from his tunnel-boring John Deere tractor like Bill Murray coming off the plane at the end of Stripes - (beautiful girl on his arm; champagne glass in hand, half in the bag, as if there was going to be a celebration whether we were there or not) - " a surprise party??? For me? Whose idea was this, I'll kill ya, everyone's coming back to my place......"

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Someone commented past day or so about Brown-Eyed off Dicks 29. Threw it on, suppose to be 15 minutes according to time indicator. Was only 5.5 minutes with 10 minutes of silence. Never noticed, assume this is the way it was released. Getting ready to edit out the 10 minutes. Any words from the troops about this gap?

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Yep, same gap, same edit made.

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Thanks

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After that long gap in Dick's Picks 29, after Estimated on Disc 2 and after Brown Eyed Women on Disc 5, bonus tracks from 10/11/77 should kick in. I remember being confused about that back when it was first released. But, after waiting patiently, all of a sudden more music appeared.

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Ahhh, the sneaky hidden tracks on some of the older Dick's Picks. I recall there was one with like a 30 minute+ Scarlet>Fire.... maybe that was Dicks Picks 13?

...ask myself, and myself (and ye All) shall receive:

https://www.whitegum.com/introjs.htm?/hidden.htm

Dennis and KeithFan....methinks you may need to now go "undo" what you "undid"...ha

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That's pretty funny that music kicks in after some of these blank spots. Somehow though, I have the October '77 tracks, because I thought I put them officially on Road Trips October '77.

Drive home. I'm thinking I either complete Dick's Picks 3, which by the way close the sound Boards of the missing tracks from that May 22nd show; all right listen to The Dark Star from 5/18/72 one last time and then move on to 5/23/72 AKA Good Evening and Welcome to Here - immortal words from Bob Weir. Heck I don't even need to drive. I could just sit in this parking lot all night, crank up the Dead and not go home to deal with the crisis of the day at home. That sure just worked for Help on the Way and Slipknot!.

Dicks Picks 3 did blow my mind when it came out.. I had to pinch myself. I guess you could say the same when Cornell started circulating.. my how spoiled we have become.

VGuy, that video you shared is incredible. I would have kept the little crystal. :D

Bolo.. I always liked that show, especially the Shakedown Street and Althea.. not sure why.. It could be as simple as this was one of the tapes that circulated pretty freely early on.

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I've always liked that one Jim, but I think I need to listen a little more closely, going by your evaluation. In general I've never been into the post hiatus playing in the bands from the 70s. But I like Cow Palace New Year's Eve a whole lot and I like the one from the Orpheum that got released as Dave's Picks 18 a whole lot. In fact that one has so much great piano in it.

I'm going to listen to the Swing version any minute now. And then I'm going to listen to Stoltzy's recommendation on that 1969 show, where you said don't look at the setlist just listen to it. Been meaning to do that. I just need to find the date again...Out walking in the cool air with my headphones, oh yeah bowmp bowmp. I have my brand new January 3rd 1970 t shirt on and I'm listening to Dave's Picks 30. This one isn't growing on me quite like I thought it would, with the exception of disc 3. More listens required. Sometimes you just need to have the bug for a certain year and I don't have the 1970 bug at the moment. I must need to turn it up. When in doubt turn it up.

Just re-listened to the Swing yesterday on headphones doing some landscaping. ..properly mood enhanced. I made it through Playing.. then today picked up from there today on the river through Around and Around, leaving the rest for tomorrow.

It seems to achieve liftoff. When I lose track of place and time because of what I am listening to.. well, that's what I like and the Swing seems to do this in three different places.. PITB>Wheel>PITB, H>S>F and Eyes>Dancin'.

Funny you mention this tonight, it's been since it was snowing that I last listened to it.

Edit: 2/24/68 Viola Lee Blues. Holy Cow!

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:)))

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...Play it Loud! ...

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I haven't seen any reference to this by any European record sellers, which is a bit worrying.

I played my vinyl copy of 2/27/69 yesterday to remind myself if it would be worth paying the asking price for a vinyl reissue of the 28th, should it be released on these shores. My conclusion--definitely! Everything about the earlier release is superb, and the run as a whole must represent the highest music from the highest band from the highest decade of the last century. In fact, unless the next box is from 1969 or 1972, I would be tempted to forego it in preference for the 28th on vinyl. Quality over quantity from now on.

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What a monster of a show.

David Gans was talking about this run at the Fillmore Sunday on Tales From The Golden Road.. as close to a quote as I can remember, "Jerry was playing so loud and aggressively. Raw and feral." Or something very close to that but better stated. I listen to 2/28 more than the other nights, but they are all extraordinary.

I would hop on 2/28 Vinyl if they decided to release it in this format.

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it's too hard to really say what my favorite show is (mostly depends on my mood), but whenever asked, 2/28/69 is usually the first thing out of my mouth...

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Lyceum run off to a good start with some classic Weir'dness. They kick it off with one of the tightest Promised Lands ever. IMHO I think this one, Luxembourg, and Veneta are in a class of their own, with the Spectrum and Berkeley not far off. I once complained to a deadhead that a particular sound board was missing the opening Promised Land. He said so what. I said so what. But I said it like what kind of asshole are you? Well maybe the word in my head was idiot. That's just a little morning dead humor for you all. True story. I guess my point is, I do believe there are some people out there guard this song throw away, and I think it was by the time Mickey rejoined the band. But in the Bill the Drummer days it was a hard rocker with a great distorted opening riff. Music's calling...

PS - thanks for reminding me of that 1969 show date Stolzie.

P.P.S.- ha, I don't recall ever hearing this stage banter before. After Sugaree, Bobby says "you all might want to light a match over there so the fire marshal can see his way around".

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Grateful Dead - Fillmore West, San Francisco, CA 2/28/69 (5-LP, 180-gram Black Vinyl, $99.98)
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I read the posts every day, and might post more if I had all the insights of you daily posters. I do get a lot of great music ideas to listen to from you so thank you.

80s Fan that is some show you picked! Sunshine Daydream is the one that got me hooked on the Grateful Dead. I would go with that one for me. What surprises me about your pick is that you went with the 28th and not the 27th. To be honest they all sound the same to me. I wish somebody could point out what is better about the 2/27 Dark Star medley. Or is it just familiar since it was the Live Dead pick?

Stoltzfus I listened to 10/24/71 cover to cover and I must first say the sound is great! Highlights for me are the opening Sugar Magnolia, I can't believe they opened with that one, Deal is really really good, China Rider also very good. Dark Star of course, and Saint Stephen, which I noticed doesn't have that section about stretching his bow until it won't stretch no further. I thought that section was on all of the old versions. I knew that they had removed it by the time they brought the song back in 77. Excellent recommendation thanks

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Never been a throw away in my book. Have always loved it throughout the years. Typically a opener, but I loved seeing it show up in late first sets in the as well. I think the last night of the Spring 77 tour comes to mind in Hartford. Don't forget about this one, and one of my favorite Sugarees!

When is that box announcement coming?

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