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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Oroborous
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    It was a separate CD. I have but I don’t have all my gear unpacked and running yet or I’d gladly burn you a copy.
    If your still looking in say a month, send me a PM and I’ll send you one.....or when I get set up I’ll try to remember and see if your still in need.

  • Oroborous
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    No, no mi amigo, I was agreeing with you....not too fast or slow, just find the groove........just enough anticipation to keep em wanting more, but no so long that they lose interest lol
    Your doing fine! As always enjoy good tour stories from any era!
    And as far as marathon drinking, I mean literally days, like once we went on for almost four days without sleeping, and only minimal enhancements. Just enough going on to keep the fun level high enough and just enough beer to keep the buzz going but without getting wasted etc.....as I say “don’t try this at home kids!” We were young and invincible then, but mostly we were professionals, and had one of the greatest tutors of all times, Klondike Keek and his Mediterranean mad men, aka The Booze Brothers! Ironically he died at 42 right after he quit drinking....
    Staying up for several days on its own can be very interesting, but I don’t recommend any of this!

    Seasonal Beer; definetly different brews are perfect for specific seasons. If you really get in that flow with nature it’s pretty cool as your body will start to inform you “hey, it’s barelywine time” etc...certain heavy stuff around the holidays, other hardy brews for the long haul of winter....Barelywine around February when there is at least a glimmer of the longer sunny days and a promise of spring, but still cold enough for the heaviness. Then a little later it’s time for Bock, then some nice strong ipas, like a new one for us Freemont Mountain Daisy, yum, then the nice light refreshing stuff for the dog days of summer. Fall we start to swing back to the fuller stuff, Porters, Stouts, and your Oktoberfest etc, and as the weather turns and starts getting colder our bodies like the heavy stuff to fatten us up for winter, which means time for Anchor Xmas beer, my all time favorite! We drink that pretty much all year except when it’s real hot, which is when I like the Anchor Liberties but can’t get here anymore, bastards!
    Speaking of Hot and beer, it is best in an ice chest! The fridge just doesn’t seem to get it cold enough, so there nothing like a cold frosty out of the ice chest.
    Conekid will like this....the only kind of swill beer we’ll still drink is PBR, the official beer of the aforementioned Boozebrothers back in the day!......but it’s only good for like a week or 2 during the peak of summer, and it MUST be outta the ice chest! Careful, not too many though as it’ll eventually rot your gut, No Bueno!

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    Seems to be many formats running around. Looks like you can get the 4cd set. Looks like you can get a one dvd copy of the show (in 5.1 sound :-)) I see ebay has a sealed copy, seems to be a two dvd set.

    Who bought this when offered? Was the "bonus" disc a cd or were the bonus tracks on the dvd.

    Out here and searching.

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    the old saying.... " when a man is ashamed of what he is doing, he claims it's his duty"

  • carlo13
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    Hey now on that line stuff. They were doing that crap towards the end (94'-95). What do you think they do with that stuff? Of coarse they jumped inside the bag as soon as it was out of sight. They probably used the same excuse as the nazis. Just following orders.

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    The Vinyl Fillmore 69 saga and...

    I too ordered a copy from Amazon, time went by and seemed to be no movement. Got worried I was gonna get stiffed so I searched out other sources. Barnes and Noble had it for a few bucks less, so I ordered and was gonna wait to see who shipped first and cancel the other. This morning amazon acted like "oh almost here, almost, we can see it", further down in mail there's Barnes & Noble saying we shipped and should have Wednesday. Still haven't canceled Amazon. I gonna gleam thru these emails closely and check tracking numbers. Hope I don't end up with two.

    On another note. Someone here talked about Reckoning and the "expanded" addition and the tracks that were on there. So I went, hmmmmm. Checked my copy and found I didn't have the "remastered and expanded" copy. I was like shit and went in search of. Found a copy and order. Should be here today. A day later (+/-), someone mention the extra tracks on the closing of winterland. Something like NYE Winterland. So I went in search of. I don't think I have the bonus disc tracks. I swore I had the disc. So into the closet and I start pulling out the my many boxes of cd's (luckily the dead get their own boxes). First box I open and what do find,,,,,, an unopen copy of Reckoning Remaster & Expanded!!! DAMN! I did find the closing of winterland. My buddy must have bought it. I have the disc and the dvd's,,, I don't seem to have the bonus tracks. Now I need to go in search of them. Anyone out there got a copy of the bonus stuff?

    What I need to do is start of list of ALL official releases and check off what I have so I don't have to search the closet anymore. Also what I found is I need another stack of banker boxes! I think I have about 2 boxes worth of cd's sitting on the sink waiting to be filed(?), stored(?), stuck in a fuckin box?

    The Gorge always sounded and looked so beautiful but that line Nazi stuff is for the birds. I'd bet a dollar a doughnut that black bag was empty and divided up among the security assholes!

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    Oroborous - point taken on not going too slow...reminds me of this song I know - Long distance runner, what you standing there for? and then something about Dead to the Core...how does that song go? Anyways, I will try to step on the gas....

    Did someone say 69? Believe it or not, I am currently rolling not west, but south down 69 highway in KS, heading to the lake. No, KF, I’m not texting and driving. Mrs Casey gets carsick so this guy almost always has a DD! More on her motionsickness later...a little foreshadowing for ya!!!

    Berry Beer - I am normally an IPA guy, and in fact kinda like my GD listening habits, that’s pretty much all I drink, however, as my self consuming friend says, summer time is different, especially when it’s a hot day on the lake. IPA can start to feel a little yucky on the tummy if ya know what I mean and that can lead to other problems...I digress....I do have 6 (or maybe 8) of those tasty bastards in my cooler though and contrary to this other tune that I know, they will not survive! Don’t worry folks, i don’t plan to do any Marathon drinking, at least probably not: and I have also packed a whole buncha water so I plan to hydrate between beers. My daughter and I are hooked on the bubbly stuff that we buy in bulk from Costco. No not Champagne people, get your minds outta the gutter. I’m still talking about water!!!

    Back to 69...I have digital copies and vinyl. Been a while since I’ve listened to the digital copies, so I will have to do that and give a comparison of the vinyl up to his point, however from my recollection the digital copy was damn good. The vinyl is also damn good, so AGS, I don’t think you can wrong with either, or as Jim says the last one you listen to is probably the best.

    Well I should probably get back to Truckin down 69, but wanted to check in cuz my reception is generally bad in the parts of the universe where we’ll be floatin this weekend. I do have The Complete Roadtrips downloaded on my Spotify account on my phone so if all goes well then I’ll be catchin up on some GOGD this weekend!

    Summer tours over, but summers still here folks....Play it loud and proud!

    KCJ

    Almost forgot...with risk of hurting some feelings, I will say that if you like IPA, I’m convinced that the best in the country is from a little brewery in Iowa called Toppling Goliath...they specialize in IPAs and although I’ve not been there, I’ve had the opportunity to try several of their IPAs. They are super tasty...and yes in my cooler. My favorite is probably the Psuedo Sue....give it a try if you get a chance! Now back to your regularly scheduled slow roasted coffee and 69 FIllmore West!

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    ...the answer to how many screamless PITB's there are is not nearly enough...

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    JiminMD,

    That is exactly why I asked. I don't have a turntable either.

  • JimInMD
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    Certainly 4/16/72 Aarhus comes to mind.. I bet there are more.

    AJS.. I will let you know when I finally get my turntable set up. I wouldn't wait up though.. I probably need a bigger house, but have no intention on moving.. I guess Dennis and I have this in common.. I used to have Vinyl night in my old house, but this one is a few sq. feet smaller.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

I avoid alcohol as much as possible.

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ugh

I thought your story would end up as a clusterbunch worthy of Penthouse Forum.

I was seasick as a kid, crossing on a ferry from Norway to England. An experience I DO NOT want to ever repeat.

I have never hitchhiked.

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...I was correct, Dave just stated/ confirmed that the second 45 track concert was recorded from the same run of shows as this MUATMs filmed concert release in 2019...the second show recorded is the night before performance! Primo!
🙏❤️😎

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Not showing anywhere within a three hour drive of me. This is the second one in a row I'll be deprived.

That would be awesome if the next box is from Summer '91. Bring it!

So I never drank tequila again... until, literally, about five years ago. The 40-plus-year interval seemed, um, judicious.

As for the potential of three-guys-meet-two-women-in-a-waterbed alternative reality, basically, back then, we were actually sweet young people who wouldn't have dreamed of groping each other.

On the other hand, I have never been in a bed with four other people since then. I swear!!

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road trip!
road trip!
road trip!

people drive or fly for hours or days to get to shows.

this is a show that just happens to be on a screen.

road trip!
road trip!
road trip!

C'mon, man! it'll be Jerry's birthday!

ROAD TRIP!

make it special, my man!

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Bro, I have never been able to wrap my spelling mind around your 'tag,' and I knew I had it wrong, but was too lazy to go look it up before posting.

s-t-o-l-t-z-f-u-s ... It's not that difficult, if one tries.

And I was the one who wrote [use ridiculous, comic voice]: "And 47 years of consistent psychedelic use has been good for me."

Yet, evidence shows that the gears are getting a bit creaky!

So, I'm off in the morning to an extremely remote plateau in the high desert, reachable by 6 hrs on pavement, 2 hrs on very rough dirt track and 5 hrs via backpack, to spend three days and take a stem-and-cap refresher course.

By the time I'm back mid-week next week, I expect the box will have been announced. Magic!

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It's on Jambase.

https://www.jambase.com/article/grateful-dead-meet-up-at-the-movies-201…

Looks like this isn't being offered anywhere close to where I live either. I was afraid this would happen after last years offering, which most of us had on DVD anyway.. oh well, I saw that coming.

Hope everyone is looking forward to the weekend. I know I am. Where fore art thou Bolo with words of twisted box set wisdom?

Stem and cap.. mmmm…

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...Dave L. Posted it on his twitter account, I don’t have the link on hand but you should be able to find it without any problems my brother. Have a grateful day ! 🙏❤️💀
...hello Spacebrother, it’s grateful to see your still around, welcome back old friend...🙏

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Maybe it will be a collection of New Years shows over a decade.

12/31/71- Winterland Arena - San Francisco, CA
12/31/72- Winterland Arena - San Francisco, CA
12/31/77- Winterland Arena - San Francisco, CA
12/31/79- Oakland Auditorium Arena - Oakland, CA
12/31/80- Oakland Auditorium Arena - Oakland, CA
12/31/81- Oakland Auditorium Arena - Oakland, CA

How can you think and learn in that heat. We have that here too (no AC in schools), but jeeze.. the kids can't be learning when they are half asleep and dripping in sweat. 6/13 is pushing pretty far into the summer too, what's up with that? A travesty I say!

A tip of the hat to educators and the school system. Made a big difference in the lives of many including me. Give the kiddies a window unit or something. How much could that cost?

Fourwinds???? You left off 12/31/82! A bigger travesty I say!!!
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Set 3: (w/ Etta James and the Tower of Power Horn Section)

Turn On Your Love Light
Tell Mama
Baby What You Want Me To Do
Hard To Handle
In The Midnight Hour

Edit: HF.. (similar to Mexican weed) the Tequila of the 70's does not compare with what makes it into the country today. Some of the extra anejo I have had blows away the best bourbons and cognacs.. (in my humble opinion). "Tequila, it's not just for blowing chunks anymore.."

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The email announcement that I received today announcing the MUATM stated that the 6/17/91 show is one of only two in the GD archives recorded to 48 track analog tape. Didn't say what the other show was.

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Stoltzfus, my man, I didn't grasp until now that you're in public service. Thanks mon!

As someone else mentioned, all my early teachers had a huge influence on my life -- except, of course, the parts of my life that I tell stories about. That part's all on me.

I did have a couple meanies in middle school. Our typing teacher, Mr. Garducci, would walk up behind you as you tried to navigate one of those giant, already antique typewriters with the tiny round keys attached to long metal shafts and he'd smash his yardstick across the machine and yell "Posture! Sit up straight!" For the love of God! So I never learned to type until I was out of college, hunkered down in a cabin on the Colo-New Mexico stateline, cultivating up on the hill and teaching myself to touch type. After a few prosperous years putting my biology degree to profitable use in the MJ biz I got busted and went into journalism (if done well, another form of public service).

Someday I'll share my escape-on-foot-over-an-11,000-foot-pass story as the bust went down in late '85, with only the clothes on my back, an aspirin bottle to store water and a pair of LL Bean slippers on my feet. Oh, and the greatest dog who ever lived, my beloved Genaro, a husky-collie mix and a great conversationalist. May he RIP. Never got another after he passed at age 12.

I offered to endorse LL Bean slippers (they worked great!) but I think the company wanted to go in another direction....

Hey MDJim: to my cap-and-stem refresher course, did you mean to say "yum," not mm?

I should say that trips are not about "fun" for me, at least not the past 40 years. Seems like I need to be ready to face the harsh truths about myself and the world as I work it all out in the backcountry, amid inspiring and sometimes daunting landscapes. I treat it like soul medicine -- tough to swallow, but ultimately good for me. I always return to civilization (if that word's still operative) working to be a better person and smiling more. I need that adjustment a handful of times each year just to stay human (if that term applies to me, some say I might be from Uranus).

At least that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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... my good ol' head friend just asked if I'd listened to 7/18,19/90 Deer Creek. I had not, so I checked em' out. 7/18 is an all time barn burner, and the often overlooked 7/19 show (because it's companion is such a gem,) is stellar as well... maybe the best Desolation Row... Victim>Foolish>Playin>ChinaDoll>UJB 2nd set pre-drums... all played with passion and fire, just before Brent's demise, when he was arguably playing his best...

Whew. It's been a fun past two days of listening - Stoltzfus, I'm giving final exams here in the city, (though thankfully, I'm one of the few in the school with decent AC units...) Anyway... these two shows would make a perfect mini-box, a la RFK 89.

https://archive.org/details/gd90-07-18.sbd.wilson.12760.sbeok.shnf
https://archive.org/details/gd1990-07-19.sbd.miller.32354.sbeok.flac16

These are really some fantastic 90 shows... I wish Brent would have made it. We'd have a totally different opinion of 90s Dead if he would have lived.

RIP Brent

Peace

Crosswalks got me... as they usually do...

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Poems everyone! Poems laddie!
New car, caviar,
Four star daydream,
Think I'll buy me a football team.
Money get back,
I'm alright Jack,
Keep your hands off my stack.
Moonshine, washing line,
On the loose,
Dr. Seuss -
In his new
potato caboose.
(boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew)
When you were young,
You shined like the sun,
But it ain't all over
Baby Blue,
It's all just psychedelic to you.
There's criminal inflation
at the Terrapin Station,
And Castles of Sand
For You-Know-Who's Band.
So sleep on your toes
with Ramble on Rose,
And when the Pigs bleat,
Tight lips, cold feet -
The time has come
for everyone,
To pick out the easy meat -
With their eyes closed
here on Shakedown Street.

(to Isengard, to Isengard - they're taking the Hobbits to Isengard!)

Laddie reckons himself a poet.....poems everyone....poems....

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Hey LMG, thanks for the info, I figured someone on here would know what the other show was right away.

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....btw. the first one you mention was the last one you listened to....
Elton John - Madman Across The Water (current)
Elton John - 17-11-70
Phish - 11.3.18 Grand Garden Arena, Sin City (was present. And it was good)
Elton John - Tumbleweed Connection
GOGD - Fox Theatre 3.18.71
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Bonus Fives. The first two Elton John records. You see, I saw this certain movie recently, and I'm committed to listen to his entire catalogue. So if I seem redundant over the next few weeks, that is why 😉. Im like the moon. Phases....
Madman ended while I was typing this. Cue Honky Chateau. Imagine putting Honky on an album title these days. Oh Lordy!!

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The discussion of tequila reminds me of my drinking days in college. One night I was drinking with a couple girls and one other guy. We were drinking Jose Cuervo, with the worm in the bottle. The idea was that whoever got the shot with the worm in it had to consume it. By the time we got close to the bottom, we were all pretty sloshed. And when the girl who poured the shot with the worm falling into it saw that thing, we all roared and she shrieked, “I’m not tucking that fouching worm!” True story.

Very interesting that there seems to haver been a lot more research done with psychedelic drugs over the last five years or so - and that the results seem to be so positive. Earlier this week, in one of the main national newspapers-The Guardian-there was a double page centre spread on how tests with psilocybin suggested that it was possibly the best antidote to depression yet identified.

This was definitely my experience. Between 1987 and 1993, I found myself living in a flat surrounded by fields in which mushrooms grew between September and November. Consequently, during those years, I would trip once a week, maybe into December, and then nothing until the same season the following year. They were great years on every level, far and away better than the preceding ones had been. I always took them on my own, and then joined friends later in the evening. It all came to an end when I got a professional qualification in 1993, and had to leave the area to take up my new job. Which is where I still live. I never bothered looking for them here, although I was tempted to at first. In any case, it felt inappropriate, given the new role I had taken on. I haven't taken them since 1993, and although I no longer feel tempted to, I have no regrets whatsoever about taking them at that time.

As ever, the biggest risk with illegal drugs, as I understand it, is rooted, in their illegality. With acid, in my late teens and twenties, the massive contrast in potency-and in what was actually being sold as "acid" seemed to vary wildly. It felt a bit like Russian Roulette, to me. So I am not so chipper about all that.

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To say that psychedelic use is a great cure for depression it's kind of like saying cocaine is a great cure for depression. I'm never depressed after a line of coke!

I have two friends who microdose acid everyday to help deal with anxiety. Buddy one, he says it helps, and I'm not saying lithium makes people any more coherent than psychedelics, but he is a completely different person now. I think he's actually become manic. And very forgetful. He told me twice in the same 3 hour get together that he had begun micro dosing. He completely forgot that he told me the first time and started the story fresh about two hours into a poker game. The other day he texted that his car was stolen so I called him to make him feel better and to hear his story. We spoke about it for 15 minutes. The very next day he texted me that I was never going to believe it but his car got stolen. The manic part I spoke of his that he just comes up with these crazy ideas that he gets fixated on and goes on and on in a nonlinear fashion about it. Like an invention to replace windshield wipers. LOL he is a dear friend but he is greatly changed. When he was on real depression medicine he did very well but complained that it made him tired and required a nap in the day. This all transpired in the last year. He was on the Xanax for 6 months and now he's been microdosing instead for 6 months. I miss Xanax guy.

Special message to Hendrix freak. I am not at all criticizing you or your use of recreational psychedelics. I trip once or twice a year, or at least did before I had an accident last year. I like tripping. I just don't think that it can be used everyday without changing a person. And I am not saying that it has changed you for the worst. I don't even know you so it would be ridiculous for me to make any kind of judgment like that. I just want you to know that my comments above relate to my buddy. A case study if you will.

Then there is his partner in crime, buddy number two. We now refer to him as mr. Paranoia. I think he's a little bit beyond the micro part of microdosing. He's not even depressed. He just likes to do drugs. He has run his business into the ground so badly his wife came to me for advice. Just to give you some perspective she hates me. She's the kind of gal who believes if you criticise women you're a misogynist. So for example, I once mentioned that my girlfriend and I had a funny miscommunication due to her inability to write neatly. I literally went to the wrong airport because I couldn't make out what she wrote. She admits this freely and blames the constant use of typing on electronic devices as the reason her writing looks like spaghetti now. Buddy number two's wife laid into me about that story. The point is that these drugs they are doing on a daily basis I really turning their brains into mush. They both have families and children and I think the more responsibility you have the easier it is to get carried away on this stuff. Sure it sounds like there's an article that supports they use for fighting depression. I don't know what that authors political slant is. I don't know what the studies political slant is. Maybe they're talking it up or maybe in some severe cases of depression it's better than nothing.

Sorry for the long post. Haven't used just about every kind of drug under the sun, I am well aware of the flipside dangers to mind and health. When I was using regularly I made excuses for it and quoted the first study I could Google that seemed to support my habit. Looking back I know that all of the recreational drugs harm us if used daily. Cocaine, marijuana, shrooms and acid, opioids, etc. I believe most of us recreational users who begin using recreationally everyday kind of hide behind the label of recreation and cringe at the word addiction.

I tried changing my username to Minas Ithil but had technical issues. Minas Ithil was the White Tower before it was taken over by evil forces, becoming the Fortress of the witch King and being renamed Minas Morgul. A man with a dark streak always has a dark streak, at best he can shine enough light to keep the dog at Bay. You want to talk about a trip? Try fading in and out of fevered consciousness for a couple of days with no way to get help or even move your body without pain you never thought yourself capable of having. The thing about trauma and being close to death is that the cover of protection that you put up around your psyche to get through the days is lifted forever. You start to see things as they really are and not how your psyche wants them to be.

So, no box Announcement this week. 😡
Looks like we will have to wait at least another week!

Been Listening to Dick's 28 from early 1973 the last two days, just love this one. 73 was such a strong year for the boys. Have not come across one that I don't love.

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I don't care what the next box is I'm looking forward to it. It'll have cool packaging and be old (new) live Dead music that I don't already have... what's not to love.

I've done as many drugs as anyone here. I'm sure of it. Not that it's a contest, but I used to live for that shit. Now, I can say without doubt that the best one can ever feel is fresh out of bed early in the morning, or just after exercise. But to each his own... just don't get lost out there. Peace everyone.

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I recall in a toxicology class learning that the poison is in the dose - in other words most things can become toxic if taken to excess. Don't believe me? Google what can happen if you drink too much water at one time. Spoiler alert, it can kill you. Minas is correct to the extent that excessive use of psychedelics can cause some crispiness to ensue, however, moderate use did not seem to have the same impact, and use of other substances may complicate the issue. There was a period where I was probably tripping a couple times a week and I was crispy, although I was also high 24/7. At a frequency of dosing approximately once per week I was not crispy and did pretty well in my calculus class, a good indicator that I had not suffered any real damage. After regular consumption, lets say an average of once per week for a period of several years, my scores on standardized testing for post-bachelor degree education still came out in the top 1-2%, again, support that no real damage was done.

With regard to the treatment of depression and anxiety and the administration of psychedelics, mushrooms or ketamine for example, the dosing regimen that I have seen involve administration of a low dose, talk therapy for a couple weeks followed by administration of a higher dose of the psychedelic. That's it, two doses, and the depression and anxiety is alleviated for months or longer. Unlike cocaine's effect on depression, which is to briefly alleviate and then exacerbate it, the impact of psychedelics is persistent from one or two doses. How many Xanax do you have to take in that time? Also, Xanax is no joke, it is a benzodiazepine with some serious potential side effects, including negative impacts on cognitive abilities, the fact that you are physically dependent after a period of use and will have severe side effects if use is suddenly stopped. It is not innocuous.

Use what works for you at a frequency that works for you, but be aware that whatever you are using can probably be overdone. Sorry to ramble, but I could talk about psychedelics and the current research all day.

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What Charlie said, well done.
Doing anything everyday is probably not good for you, whatever it is! Yin/yang etc., Balance is the key to life. Compounded over many years/decades will most likely lead to health issues, or worse.
Also, everybody is different, and so every substance wether asprin or whatever, can effect people differently. That is one reason why I feel the methodology employed by law enforcement to determine a persons ability drive is unconstitutional........I’m not for a minute suggesting that there is no regulation needed there, only that the current methods are not right!
We old timers talk crazy about the old days, but it’s a much different world now. “Law come to get ya when you don’t walk right”....So have fun, but get to know your body, know what your taking, be safe, and more importantly be responsible!

This public service announcement brought to you by old burned out freaks, convicts, recoverers and others who’ve been there. 😉

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I was going to reply, but Charlie stated pretty clearly what my understanding is. I still do psychedelics from time to time, but not very often. I do not think they had an adverse affect me, in fact quite the opposite. Sometimes a mind and soul cleanse is good medicine.

Anyway.. back to your regularly scheduled drums and space.

Fox with a box... would you, could you at the fox?

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Just got in Springsteen's new album Western Stars (bunch of cowboy songs).

First song?

Hitch Hiking!

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They both have uncanny similar quotes on frequency of the use of psychedelics.
From the final interview of John Lennon that appeared in Playboy (1980); interviewer asking about drug use, "Acid?' John Lennon, "Not in years. A little mushroom or peyote is not beyond my scope, you know, maybe twice a year or something."
Jerry Garcia from Portrait of an Artist as a tripper, published 8/8/14;
Interviewer, "When was the last time you took psychedelics?"
Garcia; "Sometime in the last year, maybe mushrooms because I think its milder, easier to handle. "
Interviewer You've slowed down to to what? A couple times a year?
Garcia "Yeah, irregularly. Its not something I plan for. Its something that Im likely to do on impulse. I like to have DMT around."
Fascinating interviews. They both "knew". Check out those interviews.

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Wish I was spinning a Plangentized Vault Release.

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Tour de France Box

Released at the beginning of July to coincide with the Tour.
Consists of the 5 unreleased shows from France.

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Did the boys haul the Wall Of Sound to Engkand / France for that short September run in '74? Any of the venues outdoors?

LMG check your PM. Ba'gok!

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They did indeed use the Wall in that Europe run. They sent it by ship, and inside the speaker cabinets, they hid their stashes.

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drugs aren't for everyone, especially LSD, had some good times on the chemical and some not so good times, it all depended on the situation and the dose. Back in high school, we would dose a small portion before going to school, usually 50 or 60 mics, but sometimes a quarter hit was more like 100 to 150 mics and it was off to the races for that day (orange sunshine and yellow sunshine were very potent) I remember some times just sitting in study hall laughing my ass off at nothing, good times. The looks we would get from students and teachers both was classic wish I had it all on film, it would make a great movie. Living in florida for 35 plus years we did a lot of shrooms, every weekend during the season for years. The season runs from some times May till October, but mostly June till September. Back in the day (70's) almost every cowfield had shrooms growing out of the cow pies, but, due to law enforcements efforts to stop it, it became harder and harder to find them in most cow fields. Also, the owners of the land would sometimes enforce no trespassing signs by gunpoint, which was a bit scary. I remember one time the owner and his 3 sons had us pinned up against our car, all 4 tires flat, at gunpoint, telling us to never come back. Didn't stop us tho, we would come back at night or just have a driver drop us off and come back and pick us up 30 mins later with the goods, there was always a way to get around rednecks and their offspring. Some of us had our own private secret fields, which would produce every time it rained, and we took advantage of it. During the summer, it was nothing for us to have a crisper full of shrooms in the refrig and a pitcher full of juice on the top shelf. Those days are gone now, as most bovine owners add orange pulp to their feed which stops the production of the mycilen that is essential to production of the flowers, or the caps we all love. The best part of picking shrooms was the actual picking, going out into a natural surrounding, walking along and finding a bunch growing, it was a beautiful thing. Nevermind the mosquitos, or snakes, or spiders or other wildlife you might encounter, they were basically harmless and it was so worth it to receive the reward, which was always an evening in heaven. We picked the same field for 20 years and it never had an adverse effect on us or any of the countless others we turned on, every weekend during the summer. It was the best of times. I remember in 1995 or 6, there was a tropical storm named "Jerry" that hit the peninsula in July and went out into the atlantic turned around and came back, both times the bounty was plentiful and very potent. We saw it as a sign from God (and Jerry) Love you Jerry, miss you dearly. Once in the 70's we found a field that was at the end of a stream, the stream basically ended in a cow field, we hit the field just after an afternoon shower and when we approached, we could see a lavender haze floating about a foot off the grass, never had we seen anything like it before and we were struck by the beauty of it, primeval, ancient, god like. As we entered, fungus was everywhere, some small some very large (picked some that day that were as big as pancakes, 6 inches across and 10 inches tall) 22 lbs picked in 35 mins. The beauty of it all and the reward was a night of enlightenment that I will never forget. Sorry for the long post, back to the music.

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Listening to Highgate 1995 on its anniversary. Attended when in high school. In beautiful northern Vermont, visited by a miles long caravan of vehicles on a perfect summer day. A show that kicked off the eastern run of their (infamous) last tour, with many signs that things were going downhill during the summer. Jerry's struggles are well known. But a blind listen brings out some gems. Only have an audience recording, but its a great listen. Some missed lyrics -- of course. But Jerry and Bobby and the boys really sound into each song with some great playing throughout -- I'd head out to that show again tonight in a heart beat if given the opportunity :)

A few highlights:
First set -- Peggy-O, El Paso, Ramble on Rose, Black-Throated Wind, and Loose Lucy.
Also Jerry seemed laid back and happy talking to the audience "Phil isn't ready yet. You'll have to think of something really really nice to say to him :)"
Second set -- Here Comes Sunshine, cool Jerry medley of Rollin and Tumblin > That Would Be Something > He's Gone, Standing on the Moon

Recall coming out of Space, Phil standing on stage and making a box with this hands before going into Box of Rain.

Also, interesting factoid about this show. It is the last show where the Dead played a song for the first time -- Rollin and Tumblin.

Anyway some recollections from 24 years ago. Any Dead show could be special for its own reasons, but some were more special than others :)

Next up today 11-21-73 Denver . . .

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That makes sense (ship). I'm not the brightest but I can see through a brick wall if you give me enough time. I didn't even think of a ship, I just thought man how the hell are they going to fit all that on a plane, they would need one of those c-160 military cargo planes. I forgot about the sea.

I wonder how today's sound systems compare to the Wall?

Speaking of the wall, I got a kick out of your "poems laddie" KF. Looks like half Pink Floyd lyrics half Grateful Dead songs, and a spattering of Keithfan. Do I get bonus points for picking out the line from Arnold Layne?

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I've got a yen for some fresca. When I was young.

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....I get it, but by that time, Jerry would turn his guitar down so low....but I digress. sigh....he knew.

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OK I'm a little late to this conversation, but the idea of what was the first music I heard was intriguing. I wasn't sure, so I looked up singles in wiki. It seems my awareness of music began when i was 9, in 1963. Mind you these weren't the first singles I bought, these were songs I heard, probably on my first radio. In the bay area, the AM pop/rock station was KFRC. I don't know if FM was really hip yet. So I heard all this great music on AM radio. These were great years for lots of interesting music to hear on the radio.

Return to Sender - Elvis
Surfing USA, Surfer Girl - Beach Boys
Walk Right In - Rooftop Singers (Kind of a novelty song)
Walk Like a Man, Big Girls Don't Cry - Four Seasons
Blame it on the Bosa Nova - Edie Gormet (this was a big hit)
Puff the Magic Dragon, Blowing in the Wind - Peter Paul and Mary
Its my Party - Leslie Gore
Another Saturday Night - Sam Cooke
Louie Louie - The Kingsman
Wipe Out - The Surfers

Soon the Beatles would hit the Ed Sullivan Show, and everything changed. I think the first albums I bought were Beatles, and the Mama's and the Papas. Another early album was East West - the Paul Butterfield Blues Band.

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Walk Right In is more than a novelty song...it was written and performed by Gus Cannon & His Jug Stompers in 1929...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4mGH_3lzhw

Gus also recorded Viola Lee Blues, Big Railroad Blues & Minglewood Blues...check 'em out good stuff

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