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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Thin
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    you wrote: "I just can't get behind what seems like renting access to music or movies when I can own them outright on a disc."

    Charlie, this is the hurdle that everybody has to get over in a technology shift. The mentality has always been about ownership.

    But gradually, people are going to streaming. Why? Let's say you spend $200 on a few CD's and special releases annually. But then you realize a service (Apple Music or whatever) costs $10 a month ($120/yr = 80 savings) for ALL of them PLUS ALMOST ALL THE OTHER MUSIC IN THE WORLD. You'll go broke trying to buy everything you want "a la carte". The streaming model is coming together folks, and it makes sense. Stay tuned.

    Buying DVD's and Blue Ray right now is like buying 8 track tapes in 1979. I did it! And 2 years later I felt like an idiot. And sure they work great if you' stay in 1979 forever. But then suddenly it's 1983 and YOU'RE the guy/gal still proudly "collecting" 8-track tapes while everyone goes to CD! Don't be that guy.

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    Good Evening Rockers!

    I've been keeping up with the E72 shows, so that's a good sign, but to be honest, it's always the May Dave's Picks that derails me.

    There's a huge gap between the 4/17 Tivoli show and the Rockin' The Rhein show of 4/24, so I've been wearing the shit out RTR. The Dark Star => Wharf Rat => Sugar Magnolia is really just something else altogether. I keep playing it over and over, trying to figure out the Dark Star. This medley is one of my favorite extended Dead pieces of all time.

    I think tomorrow I'll move on to Hundred Year Hall.

    Now it's time to switch over from E72 to something else. I'm avoiding 1970 for now, to keep that period pristine for "the arrival". Maybe I'll go with that great Playing In The Band from DaP 18. Or the DaP 17 second set medley would be kind of tasty - there's a really good Eyes of the World => China Doll on that one. Not to mention the WRS => Jam. Or do I just Go To Nassau and rock out to that killer Jack Straw => Franklin's Tower opening combo......

    CD guy here. Think of how boring release day would be with nothing to open.

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    GRRRRRR. How do you sell out…

    GRRRRRR. How do you sell out a Dave's Picks before you even ship it? Go out on a limb and produce 30,000 instead of 20,000. if you don't order it the day it is released, you can't get it. I'm tool old to chase this shit. I'll just download a bootleg, although I'd rather buy it from you. Only, you won't allow that to happen. Wisen up guys.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    CDs, Video in the current era

    FTW and Dead & Co have made it possible for people who got into the music after Jerry died to experience the songs live.
    It’s not the same, but they never saw the real thing, and don’t have a standard to compare to. It’s still better than what else is on tour these days.
    This has brought in new recruits who also are buying releases (and scalpers too).
    Seems that CD sales, at least, will continue for a while.

    But I would still like some video too.

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    Whatever else is going on in the outside world, CDs are expanding in this niche market. Blu Ray disc sales might do ok here if the source quality were good, but as noted, all of the worthy candidates are available already. Sunshine Daydream, Movie Soundtrack, whatever else.

    CDs are on the rise here, and will at least plateau at 20K for awhile, if not rise some more next year. The completely unique selling opportunity of having so many otherwise unavailable shows in the Vault gives Rhino a marketing advantage to do the Limited Edition thing and collect $100 from almost 20K subscribers a year. It will take many more years for that number to go back down to 12,000, where it started. If 12,000 was good in 2012 then it will still be good 5 years from now, should the instant sellouts cease. It's the only place you can get it, and it's on CD in limited quantities. There would have to be a huge offer from some streaming company for Rhino to turn their back on this marketing schema. And I doubt that's going to happen, because the music still has to be engineered before it's ready for release.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    I’m not always in front of the TV while they are playing, but I can still hear them.
    Being able to see the TV from the kitchen is also key, you can listen while you cook and occasionally look at the TV.

    I watch less than 10 Hollywood movies per year, and rarely current releases.
    I try to watch Strange Brew and Big Lebowski at least once a year, both of which I have on DVD.

    But concert video, I watch that a lot.
    Just watched Hard Working Americans - First Waltz this weekend.

    I have Sunshine Daydream on DVD and Blu Ray, the BR has higher resolution audio, which is reason right there to put stuff out on BR.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Live streams - sometimes (if it’s free), I think that the only time I paid for a live stream was FTW 6-27-15 and it kept freezing/buffering.
    My BR/DVD player doesn’t freeze/buffer. I also don’t need an internet connection to watch discs.

    I did watch the two WSP free streams this weekend at Sweetwater 420 Fest. No freezing with that.

    I do watch YouTube concert videos on my TV (using the home theater for sound) to check out other bands besides GD. The recent discussions of Spirit sent me looking for video and the Rockpalast show was great. Then Daverock and Simonrob informed us that a bunch of Rockpalast shows were on DVD, which some people were happy to know about.

    As far as GD, yes I want video on physical media, just like the audio.

    Yes, a lot of people in the general population stream. In fact, several companies are betting big time on that being the future, as well as streaming audio.

    How many people on this site want future Dead releases to be stream only?

    Jim,
    The John Deere is looking good. You must have parked it indoors over the winter and then gave it a wash/wax.

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    it's hard to find the TIME to sit down to enjoy a show on video, and with my two non-Deadhead loved ones at home...

    gimme CDs because I can take them in my car, to various places in the house, etc.

    I would love to revisit the DVD of Closing of Winterland, but I would need the house to myself for 6+ hours.

    Someday, my lads...someday.

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    I think I'm in the minority, but I have a really hard time watching the dead in concert on a tv screen. The Grateful Dead movie was really cool but I have a hard time lasting long with videos like Alpine or any of the Meet Up events. Couple songs at the most. I can't even do couch tour. Different strokes I guess...

    Thin and others are correct - most people aren't buying DVDs or CDs. People are streaming their shows and music, choosing to listen or watch what they want, when they want it. If Dave is talking about different formats, he almost certainly is referring to streaming, whether it be on your phone, computer or TV.

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    https://archive.org/details/gd1986-04-22.sbd.miller.34767.flac16/gd86-0…

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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As Perithecat says, the cost of large boxes is prohibitive if you don't live in the States, severely limiting access. A UK/Europe distribution centre would make all Dead merchandise much more accessible.

11/7/71 has been available for a few years on Amazon in the UK, both individually, and as part of the infamous 7 show "yellow box" of 1971 shows. These are all FM shows and incredibly good value for money. Its presence caused some controversy on here when it was first mentioned a year or so ago. But it has to be said, it is very attractive on all levels-and again, if you live in the UK/Europe, a fraction of the price of the Rhino boxes only available on here.

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The copy I have is DAMN good, Primo, not sure :-). Another easy pick for good sound. I like the song lineup. I guess I would have guess a later year than 71 for the next Dave. But Dave, I'll take what you give, sell, allow to buy. I'm looking now and yes there is a open slot on the shelf for 31, so send it already.

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Bolo did say the contest was not related to the next Dave or box release...I'm still counting on the Complete Warfield, and a june 76 show for Dave 31.
Now, if only Bolo would at least tell us when the announcement will come out...

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I read it a couple of times and still wasn't sure. In the end, it is what it is and I will take. But my copy of that date is very nice.

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and miss the Bolo clue, good one Bolo, but how about a real clue to the box set or DP 31? Congrats RichardTorres, great guess and a tip of the hat to you, Eureka, you got it. As far as the box, would love an 80 box, or a 91 box, but no 76 box please. Vince did not suck, especially with Bruce along for the ride, that's a bold statement to make and a personal opinion that not all of us share. Those were some great shows with the 7 man band in 91>92.
Those 5-26>27-93 shows were good ones, I really like the March shows from that year too, especially the NC shows, good times. I did not see the band in 86 or 87, loved the October 85 show I went to and the October 88 shows also, Jerry was wasted in 85 but he could still deliver the goods and in 88, it was like a rebirth. Someone said lets redo 95 with Mayer redoing Jerry's leads, Sacrilege I say, even on his death bed, Jerry was miles above anything Mayer can do. The 95 show I saw was a good one and the only stadium show that spring tour. More good times indeed.
Nappyrags, what a great find, send me some please :) Daverock, I also dig Tangerine Dream, thanks for the heads up ie. Phaedra, will check that out. That Pink Floyd jam for the moon landing is pretty awesome, 50 years ago we were walking on the moon....giant steps are what you take, walking on the moon....
I doubt if Phil will be anywhere near anywhere where D&C are playing, he's really not welcome and Billy and Mickey won't play with him so I don't think that's an option, besides, it's in writing that he can't play with the remaining 4 members together ever again due to that cash grab called fare thee well. Too bad, would love to see it but it ain't gonna happen, ever, at least not without a whole bunch of lawyers getting involved, and a burying of the hatchet between Billy and Mickey and Phil.

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Senor DaveStrang, I called out the Texas dates a couple months ago when raving that the new box would be Fall '72.

Lettuce prey u r write.

He wrote "Texas '72 - 11/19, 11/22, 11/24, 11/26. Rhino needs to hit a home run with this one…"

without pages of dirt, what happened between the three?

Pure opinion, but, I would think Phil could play with them "legally" as long as they don't use the name "Grateful Dead".

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I do not believe that there is a legally binding document that states that the Core 4 cannot play together for money.
The FTW announcement said that those would be the only 3 shows.
Then they added Santa Clara.
The statement in the announcement that it was the last time they would play together is not a legally binding contract.

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the FTW tagline said that this particular lineup would never be seen again, and I took that to include Trey et al. However, I think that they will do what makes sense to them, and I think that's fine, as they seem pretty happy these days.
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Slept in, just had breakfast (it’s noon here), now having coffee and watching 7-4-89.

My reading of Bolo’s contest was that it was a “what am I thinking of” contest, not a reveal of upcoming releases.

I’ll go!

A ‘cash grab’ doesn’t bother me. I’ll pay the cash if the music is worth it.
That’s why I’ll pay the cash for Roger Waters, but not The Rolling Stones.

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solo
YOLO
pollo
Tolo
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Psychedelic man of mystery

Dennis, great Hideaway link, thank you very much. HF / DaveS.. I'd take a big bite of a Texas 72 box.

Had a really good time at a free bluegrass show they had at the ski mountain up he hill from where I live (Hill Billy Gypsies). At the end they had to restring either the fiddle or mandolin, and the guitar player took some time to tell a little story starting with this next one is a Jerry Garcia song and began to introduce his songwriting style and took some time to credit Stephen Foster as being an influence on both Hunter and Garcia. Not sure how true that is and had never heard that before.. but he went on to say their songs and the style the wrote them in have a timeless aspect to them and lend themselves well to string arrangements.. and so started a smoking, wild and wooly Brown Eyed Woman ala bluegrass (acidgrass).

Had a great time, made some new friends, the weather was spectacular, the mountains beautiful brought our own beer and wine so it was an almost free event. I do agree.. and have said this here before, the song writing and the songs they have written, don't always get the credit they deserve. I do think there is a timeless aspect to them and Brown Eyed Woman is one of my favorites.. Gone are the days...

Well Happy Fourth of July all.. be good, be safe, be kind, play dead.

Delilah Jones went to meet her God,
And the old man never was the same again.

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Vguy, did you feel that quake? And if so, how did it compare to being in just the right spot, in just the right venue, with a song that had just the right Phil subsonic resonant frequency, that you would feel more than hear, so that the hole place seem to be floating.....”the carpet too is moving under you..”
hopefully all y’all didn’t experience any mishaps?

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I did not realize how good these guy were. Jerry said these guys were his mentor or some other word he said in an interview . It is very hard not to be in a good mood listening to these guys. The banjo style is out of this world.

In all honesty I echoed the opinion of another poster when I asked them. I revisited the shows and thought they would indeed make a great 4 show Box. You posted the same a short while later. A 4 show (Tx.) Box would keep it affordable for most and who doesn't like 1972? It seemed like the band could do no wrong.

The announcement? Mon./Tues.? The Dead & Co. tour ends on Saturday if I'm correct and I think Rhino wants to catch folks while they still have 'Dead Fever' not to mention we regulars, who've been salivating for months. OK I exaggerate…umm…not really (lol).

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And how. I'm funny like how? Like I'm a clown, I'm here to amuse you. How the f*** am I funny, tell me.

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....oof! Spinning Dave's 18, because '76 is unanimously accepted in the Vguy home.

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Jerry in shorts.... start of summer 90 tour.... 100+ degrees and an opening Cold Rain & Snow!!!! Highlight for me 27 minute Scarlet Fire going into drums!!! 29 years ago..... where does the time go. bob t

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The quicksilver messenger service, Big brother and the holding company and the dead on the same bill are the days of old. I wish I had a time machine. They don't even put up those old billboards for upcoming events anymore. Makes you want to cry.

Some those psychedelic posters from the 1960s advertising rocks concerts were works of art. Actually, it would be quite cool if they could use some of them on future Dead releases. If this isn't possible, for copyright reason or whatever, maybe the ideas and images could be referenced in newer works.

I'm listening to 5/21/74 from last years box as I type-the first set- which I thought I would add as it features some damn fine piano playing.

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Just cracked open an Upslope Tangerine & Hops Spiked Snowmelt. One will do, for breakfast, to try and get this freight train out of my head. First hangover headache I've had in years. Our 4th party was epic. Now the wife and I are left to clean up this disaster (at least no one died in this wreck). Thanks to everyone who left wine and beer in my fridge and snacks all over the place. Ahem.

Probably going to pick up Al and drive into Boulder around 3 for drinks and food at Shakedown Street. Can't wait to see the fellas the next two nights. Folsom Field at night in the summertime is magical.

Cheers, to everyone else who is off work today!

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Been a while, but hope everyone is having a great summer. I'm eagerly anticipating both the next Dave's Picks as well as the box set news. No matter what it is, I can't imagine I'll be too disappointed given the riches we're all privy to these days.

On a separate note, I saw Phish at Camden for 3 nights last weekend - I know there are mixed feelings about them here, but they are playing great and it was good to be out on the lawn with some family and old friends who convinced me to go. A night (or in this case 3) with live music is better than most alternatives...

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It has clearly been stated several times that the box announcement will be 8/1 @ MUATM and not before. I predict ‘79. I saw both Keith & Brent that year

DAP31 should be in the next week or so. Maybe a Bruce & Vince show? That would be a nice change

I bought the ‘71 “Yellow Box” and love it

Saw The Who in May with a full orchestra and it was great. Roger is fully healed. Queen & the Stones on back-to- back nights in Aug. only about 5 hr. drive between shows. I am old but it is doable!

Rock on

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Wooooohhhooooooo!
Fug this box noise (for now...) going to see live #$*($$(& Dead!
Only 2-3 hours of horrible holiday mountain traffic, a total dipshit fest gettin in and then.......aaaahhhhhhh
“This must be heaven....”
we’ll hopefully be in our spot last row center, you’ll know me if you see me!
T minus 9 hours and 30 minutes till liftoff!
Wwooooooooohhhhhhhooooooo!
Have fun but be safe sports fans!

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As long as a digital download is offered, I don't think any box set will sell out in less then a year or so. Look at the July '78 box. That was an AWESOME offering, 3 years ago, and there are still some on the shelf at Dead.net.

Rock on

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I have never been to a MUATM and I doubt they will be announcing the 2019 Box to such a small exclusive group that go to these meet-ups.

"we will be revealing an exclusive look at the Dead's soon-to-be announced 2019 boxed set"

It's going to be a look at not an pre-order announcement.

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I would imagine that they will first reveal the box at MUATM and will follow up with an announcement here after MUATM. I imagine they are using the announcement as an additional motivator for folks to attend MUATM. Everyone will get the announcement, but the folks at MUATM will get it first.

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although I already had this one as a bootleg SDB I was not disappointed. for the copies that circulated was riddled with cuts. the one that most stood out being the Cosmic Charlie that was the most disappointing. my show notes from a 6-23-18 listening: Too bad about the cuts in this tape. Maybe the vault has a complete copy. Still has replay value & good sound quality. - Not saying I called it or anything, just that it was optimism that actually paid off for once.

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I know we have talked about this before but the July 78 box set is the most under rated box release based upon the first 3 shows that were not circulated at all in sound board quality. The last two shows were out there in killer boards, but those first 3 are just such great upgrades... Think of it this way, what if the January and February boards from 1979 were all of a sudden released. We have had nothing but audience tapes for 40 years. No disrespect to the other boxes released... Before July 78 box was released i hadn't listened to 7/1, 7/3, 7/5 audiences since my tape trading days back in late 80's.... Now I am talking about one on it's anniversary date!!! Buy and listen before they are gone..... good weekend everyone.... bob t

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‘Soon-to-be announced’...

DL just waiting for windy day

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Hey Now Dead People! Happy Friday everyone and hope you had a great 4th. I’m in recovery mode but trying to get revved up for the first Boulder show tonight. Couldn’t make it out there, so will be streaming live...Carpet is fired up and ready to go!

Oroborous-watch out for The Sasquatch creatures....if they happen to abduct you it takes weeks to recover!

Not a huge fan of '78 because it's a lot more manic (or coke-fueled), and Bob's learning of the slide onstage, but these shows are great for the most part. My favorite of the bunch is still 7/1. I will take that over either Red Rocks show. I don't know if they felt like they had to be more precise in front of a country audience that expects precision playing, or if they just wanted to blow their minds, whatever it was, it clicked. The Omaha show was my least favorite of the bunch, but it's still a damn good show. Why a box with 3 completely uncirculated Bettys with terrific artwork hasn't sold out after 3 years is mystifying. Makes it even crazier that Get Shown the Light sold out faster than any other box. Sure those shows were well known, but also extremely well circulated. I imagine that leads to some trepidation on this year's box. Last year's PacNW '73-74 looked to be a shoe in to sell out, too, but is still there with an amazing box and art, and 6 fantastic shows. I don't want to see them cut down on the number of box sets available and possibly miss out on a quick sell out, which 7200 copies of Texas '72 could easily do, hypothetically speaking, of course. It's got to be hell on Rhino's accountants to figure this out, 30 Trips sells out at 700 bucks a pop within several months, GSTL sells out 15,000 copies in 2 days, and who knows how many music only editions and downloads, and the other boxes are still available. Maybe they shouldn't do the download editions...

The physical packaging is revealed, similar to the PNW Box last year.

https://youtu.be/ePU2Ygv1ILU

I placed my PNW order on 6-12-18, well before MUATM.

Although I would like a June 76 Box, I’m expecting an announcement on 7-17 that the Box will be Alpine 7-17,18,19-89 complete audio/video. Being that it’s the 30th anniversary.
And if that actually happens, I’ll be quite happy.

Have fun in Boulder folks.

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Folks in Boulder are getting real wet! Show Is being delayed and they told people to seek shelter.

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