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    Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

    When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Charlie3
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    Took a little dead break over the weekend.
    Bob Marley - Exodus, definitely a classic album, spun me off on a recollection of a previous listen in days gone by with a now dead friend.
    Jane's Addiction - Ritual de lo Habitual, sometimes it just fits a mood.
    JGB - Eel River 6/10/89, currently my favorite show from the Eel River box.
    Sly & the Family Stone - There's a Riot Going On, been too long since I listened to this one, good stuff from start to finish.
    Peter Tosh - Bush Doctor, great album, and something cool about hearing the Mick Jagger vocals on (You Gotta Walk) Don't Look Back.
    Currently started spinning the 5/9/77 Buffalo show from the GSTL box, probably the show I have listened to the most from that box. Sounds great so far.

    Interesting post by Thin, really a bummer to see the decline of the disc and the rise of streaming. I just can't get behind what seems like renting access to music or movies when I can own them outright on a disc. There is also the issue of data as I am in a location where my internet access is satellite only, with enough data each month to last me about two weeks without any streaming. No cable, as I long ago lost all interest in a monthly bill to watch television. I get a bunch of free channels over the air in high-def that provide me with an abundance of opportunities to waste time on TV, and anything that I really want to see from a pay service I can usually still find on disc. Also, hard for me to get behind hooking up a TV to the internet, seems a lot like the watchful video screens from Orwell's 1984 now that there are camera's and microphones in many smart TV's. The smart devices often just seem like an invitation for a giant corporation to spy on your day to day existence to better understand your interests and how to better market more products to you. So yeah, the demise of the disc is a bummer for me.

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    Hi All,
    I haven't commented in a while but I have been following along since the DaP 29 forum discussion. So first order of business is that I cant wait until DaP 30 arrives. I have never heard these shows so this is adding to my excitement. I think the bonus disc will give us just about everything from 1/3 that is not on the other 3 CDs. Dave has become very savvy about fitting as much as he can on the main release and on the bonus discs with copyright & royalties accounted for too. These DaP's with the bonus discs have really become like mini box sets.

    Second I am always happy with just about every release, box sets too. I am hoping that this years box set is from 69, or in keeping with anniversaries in decades, maybe some select shows from 79. I know this often comes up from many of us but I really would like get some new releases from Brent's rookie year. I feel that he inspired the band and the playing reflected that. Now I wouldn't complain about a Warfield box, but to me there are other 80s shows I wouldnt mind having out first. Maybe they save the Warfield box for next year - 40 year anniversary? In the end it doesn't matter as it's all good.

    Finally I have been neglecting E72 and Spring 77 shows during this anniversary time. I recently acquired the Spring 1990 TOO box and I have been giving those shows a good run. What a fantastic box set. Plus I have to admit I have revisited the PNW box as well. I suffered from the defective disc pandemic so that stunted my listening to those shows when it first came out.

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    While it seems believable that most 20 year olds don't own dvd/blu ray players, it also seem unlikely that Dead are trying to sell products to people of that age group anyway. 20 years olds weren't even born when the band were functioning, so trying to aim for that market may well be futile.

    No, I would think, and I haven't seen a survey on the subject, that most of the people who buy music by The Dead are over 40. And people of that generation are more likely to favour older technology.

    Having said that, I don't watch Dead dvds, or any other dvds of live concerts for that matter, with the same regularity that I play records or cds.

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    They did reissue Winterland 74 in BluRay.. I have both. Had to get the BluRay.

    I get the feeling there just isn't as much enthusiasm for GD DVD's/BluRay's in general. There must not be as much money in them. Still, I would like to see more.

    I fired up the John Deere.. Took some time to get it started, been a while.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Groundhog Day, rehashing old releases

    Aoxomoxoa,
    Pre-order the re-release now.......

  • Thin
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    Folks, PLEASE stop the madness of asking for Blue Ray video reissues! They ain't gonna waste time, effort and resources reissuing existing videos into Blue Ray. It's not 2005 anymore. DVD/BlueRay players are in only 67% of homes, down from 73% IN JUST ONE YEAR (that's a MASSIVE hockey-stick statistical drop). Most 20-year olds don't buy 'em - hell, they don't even want cable much less clunky players and discs that scratch. (https://media.thinknum.com/articles/dvd-blu-ray-sales-tanking-as-stream…), and taking a blurry/grainy image from 40 years ago and hoping a 2nd round of digitization makes any noticeable difference form the first round is a fool's errand. It wouldn't sell.

    The Dead are interested in exciting new projects, not rehashing mediocre releases with video that will be twice as disappointing as the original grainy releases 20 years ago (since people weren't used to HDTV yet - we were still staring at clunky tube TV's).

    This is why I don't comment much anymore. I feel like I've said everything once already (twice, actually) - feels like Groundhog Day.

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    Hard to know for sure what Dave was referring to with other formats, but I too would love the idea of more DVD or Blu-ray.
    Good to see JiminMD back in the mix. Their last full show release on DVD was CW&I and to my eyes was the best to date. Looked better than the View from the Vault releases of the early 2000s. I still get chills when I see the Box of Rain and they sing the chorus. Reminds me of the Box they played at Alpine shortly after that. Was a dream of mine at the time to hear that one live.
    And for this year's box, I am starting to believe what others have mentioned that their has been a correlation with the RSD release and the box set. If this is the case bring on the Warfield Box, can't wait!

  • icecrmcnkd
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    45th anniversary of Winterland 10/74

    I’ll take those on Blu-ray instead of Alpine 89.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Jim, your mission, if you choose to accept it

    Use the John Deere to deliver high quality film to 89/90 Dead tour.

  • JimInMD
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    I think the problem with all those 89/90 videos is how they were recorded. They were recorded by Len Dell'Amico on 4" magnetic video tape. Essentially high quality VHS tape. It was popular in the 80's, you can notice the same grainy look on all those low budget sitcoms that are in syndication, they look dated and grainy but nobody cares much because, well, we are talking about low budget 80's TV. We do care about the video of the good ole Grateful Dead, however.

    Upgrading to BluRay will not provide a video upgrade over a DVD because both medias are much higher quality than the capture of the source tape it was recorded on. You would get a sound upgrade though and better detail on the grainy source (which can in a way make it look worse).

    Anything recorded on film (The Grateful Dead Movie, Sunshine Daydream, perhaps Château d'Hérouville) can be greatly improved by bringing to bringing it to BluRay, that's where you see the improvements. You can magnify and enhance the hell out of film with good results so long as it was in focus. But film was and is expensive.

    I still want all this 89/90 stuff released.. I don't watch concert videos as often as I used to, but sometimes you just want concert time in the home theatre.

    That's my take.. bring on the 80's video but expect it to reflect the technology of the day. The video will still be grainy.

    As for E72.. I sad to admit I just finished 4/8. Perhaps there is time to catch up.

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Who's up for a revolutionary evolutionary ride? DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, NEW YORK 1/2/70 captures the Grateful Dead as they make their first foray from the experimental 60s into their early 70s acoustic Americana period. Yes, this one is a little bit country and a little bit (psychedelic) rock and roll.

When the "Magnificent Seven" - Pigpen on percussion, T.C. on keys - first took the stage on 1/2/70, evidence was clear that the trip was about to take a turn. From their western wears to the twang in Jerry’s “broken-string blues,” it appeared they'd brought the Bakersfield sound to the Big Apple. They worked through much of what would become Workingman's Dead, stunning the crowd with laid-back numbers like "Uncle John's Band," "Casey Jones," and "Black Peter." Just the same, they satisfied 60s stalwarts with magical versions of "Dark Star," "St. Stephen," and "That's It For The Other One." Sonic alchemy, indeed!

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30: FILLMORE EAST, NEW YORK, ​New York 1/2/70 has been rounded out with a bit of 1/3/70 (the subscribers-only bonus disc features the bulk of 1/3/70). It was recorded by the great Owsley "Bear" Stanley and has been lovingly mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman.

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 30 is limited to 20,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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As Perithecat says, the cost of large boxes is prohibitive if you don't live in the States, severely limiting access. A UK/Europe distribution centre would make all Dead merchandise much more accessible.

11/7/71 has been available for a few years on Amazon in the UK, both individually, and as part of the infamous 7 show "yellow box" of 1971 shows. These are all FM shows and incredibly good value for money. Its presence caused some controversy on here when it was first mentioned a year or so ago. But it has to be said, it is very attractive on all levels-and again, if you live in the UK/Europe, a fraction of the price of the Rhino boxes only available on here.

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The copy I have is DAMN good, Primo, not sure :-). Another easy pick for good sound. I like the song lineup. I guess I would have guess a later year than 71 for the next Dave. But Dave, I'll take what you give, sell, allow to buy. I'm looking now and yes there is a open slot on the shelf for 31, so send it already.

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Bolo did say the contest was not related to the next Dave or box release...I'm still counting on the Complete Warfield, and a june 76 show for Dave 31.
Now, if only Bolo would at least tell us when the announcement will come out...

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I read it a couple of times and still wasn't sure. In the end, it is what it is and I will take. But my copy of that date is very nice.

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and miss the Bolo clue, good one Bolo, but how about a real clue to the box set or DP 31? Congrats RichardTorres, great guess and a tip of the hat to you, Eureka, you got it. As far as the box, would love an 80 box, or a 91 box, but no 76 box please. Vince did not suck, especially with Bruce along for the ride, that's a bold statement to make and a personal opinion that not all of us share. Those were some great shows with the 7 man band in 91>92.
Those 5-26>27-93 shows were good ones, I really like the March shows from that year too, especially the NC shows, good times. I did not see the band in 86 or 87, loved the October 85 show I went to and the October 88 shows also, Jerry was wasted in 85 but he could still deliver the goods and in 88, it was like a rebirth. Someone said lets redo 95 with Mayer redoing Jerry's leads, Sacrilege I say, even on his death bed, Jerry was miles above anything Mayer can do. The 95 show I saw was a good one and the only stadium show that spring tour. More good times indeed.
Nappyrags, what a great find, send me some please :) Daverock, I also dig Tangerine Dream, thanks for the heads up ie. Phaedra, will check that out. That Pink Floyd jam for the moon landing is pretty awesome, 50 years ago we were walking on the moon....giant steps are what you take, walking on the moon....
I doubt if Phil will be anywhere near anywhere where D&C are playing, he's really not welcome and Billy and Mickey won't play with him so I don't think that's an option, besides, it's in writing that he can't play with the remaining 4 members together ever again due to that cash grab called fare thee well. Too bad, would love to see it but it ain't gonna happen, ever, at least not without a whole bunch of lawyers getting involved, and a burying of the hatchet between Billy and Mickey and Phil.

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Senor DaveStrang, I called out the Texas dates a couple months ago when raving that the new box would be Fall '72.

Lettuce prey u r write.

He wrote "Texas '72 - 11/19, 11/22, 11/24, 11/26. Rhino needs to hit a home run with this one…"

without pages of dirt, what happened between the three?

Pure opinion, but, I would think Phil could play with them "legally" as long as they don't use the name "Grateful Dead".

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I do not believe that there is a legally binding document that states that the Core 4 cannot play together for money.
The FTW announcement said that those would be the only 3 shows.
Then they added Santa Clara.
The statement in the announcement that it was the last time they would play together is not a legally binding contract.

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the FTW tagline said that this particular lineup would never be seen again, and I took that to include Trey et al. However, I think that they will do what makes sense to them, and I think that's fine, as they seem pretty happy these days.
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Slept in, just had breakfast (it’s noon here), now having coffee and watching 7-4-89.

My reading of Bolo’s contest was that it was a “what am I thinking of” contest, not a reveal of upcoming releases.

I’ll go!

A ‘cash grab’ doesn’t bother me. I’ll pay the cash if the music is worth it.
That’s why I’ll pay the cash for Roger Waters, but not The Rolling Stones.

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Psychedelic man of mystery

Dennis, great Hideaway link, thank you very much. HF / DaveS.. I'd take a big bite of a Texas 72 box.

Had a really good time at a free bluegrass show they had at the ski mountain up he hill from where I live (Hill Billy Gypsies). At the end they had to restring either the fiddle or mandolin, and the guitar player took some time to tell a little story starting with this next one is a Jerry Garcia song and began to introduce his songwriting style and took some time to credit Stephen Foster as being an influence on both Hunter and Garcia. Not sure how true that is and had never heard that before.. but he went on to say their songs and the style the wrote them in have a timeless aspect to them and lend themselves well to string arrangements.. and so started a smoking, wild and wooly Brown Eyed Woman ala bluegrass (acidgrass).

Had a great time, made some new friends, the weather was spectacular, the mountains beautiful brought our own beer and wine so it was an almost free event. I do agree.. and have said this here before, the song writing and the songs they have written, don't always get the credit they deserve. I do think there is a timeless aspect to them and Brown Eyed Woman is one of my favorites.. Gone are the days...

Well Happy Fourth of July all.. be good, be safe, be kind, play dead.

Delilah Jones went to meet her God,
And the old man never was the same again.

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Vguy, did you feel that quake? And if so, how did it compare to being in just the right spot, in just the right venue, with a song that had just the right Phil subsonic resonant frequency, that you would feel more than hear, so that the hole place seem to be floating.....”the carpet too is moving under you..”
hopefully all y’all didn’t experience any mishaps?

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I did not realize how good these guy were. Jerry said these guys were his mentor or some other word he said in an interview . It is very hard not to be in a good mood listening to these guys. The banjo style is out of this world.

In all honesty I echoed the opinion of another poster when I asked them. I revisited the shows and thought they would indeed make a great 4 show Box. You posted the same a short while later. A 4 show (Tx.) Box would keep it affordable for most and who doesn't like 1972? It seemed like the band could do no wrong.

The announcement? Mon./Tues.? The Dead & Co. tour ends on Saturday if I'm correct and I think Rhino wants to catch folks while they still have 'Dead Fever' not to mention we regulars, who've been salivating for months. OK I exaggerate…umm…not really (lol).

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And how. I'm funny like how? Like I'm a clown, I'm here to amuse you. How the f*** am I funny, tell me.

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....oof! Spinning Dave's 18, because '76 is unanimously accepted in the Vguy home.

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Jerry in shorts.... start of summer 90 tour.... 100+ degrees and an opening Cold Rain & Snow!!!! Highlight for me 27 minute Scarlet Fire going into drums!!! 29 years ago..... where does the time go. bob t

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The quicksilver messenger service, Big brother and the holding company and the dead on the same bill are the days of old. I wish I had a time machine. They don't even put up those old billboards for upcoming events anymore. Makes you want to cry.

Some those psychedelic posters from the 1960s advertising rocks concerts were works of art. Actually, it would be quite cool if they could use some of them on future Dead releases. If this isn't possible, for copyright reason or whatever, maybe the ideas and images could be referenced in newer works.

I'm listening to 5/21/74 from last years box as I type-the first set- which I thought I would add as it features some damn fine piano playing.

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Just cracked open an Upslope Tangerine & Hops Spiked Snowmelt. One will do, for breakfast, to try and get this freight train out of my head. First hangover headache I've had in years. Our 4th party was epic. Now the wife and I are left to clean up this disaster (at least no one died in this wreck). Thanks to everyone who left wine and beer in my fridge and snacks all over the place. Ahem.

Probably going to pick up Al and drive into Boulder around 3 for drinks and food at Shakedown Street. Can't wait to see the fellas the next two nights. Folsom Field at night in the summertime is magical.

Cheers, to everyone else who is off work today!

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Been a while, but hope everyone is having a great summer. I'm eagerly anticipating both the next Dave's Picks as well as the box set news. No matter what it is, I can't imagine I'll be too disappointed given the riches we're all privy to these days.

On a separate note, I saw Phish at Camden for 3 nights last weekend - I know there are mixed feelings about them here, but they are playing great and it was good to be out on the lawn with some family and old friends who convinced me to go. A night (or in this case 3) with live music is better than most alternatives...

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It has clearly been stated several times that the box announcement will be 8/1 @ MUATM and not before. I predict ‘79. I saw both Keith & Brent that year

DAP31 should be in the next week or so. Maybe a Bruce & Vince show? That would be a nice change

I bought the ‘71 “Yellow Box” and love it

Saw The Who in May with a full orchestra and it was great. Roger is fully healed. Queen & the Stones on back-to- back nights in Aug. only about 5 hr. drive between shows. I am old but it is doable!

Rock on

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Wooooohhhooooooo!
Fug this box noise (for now...) going to see live #$*($$(& Dead!
Only 2-3 hours of horrible holiday mountain traffic, a total dipshit fest gettin in and then.......aaaahhhhhhh
“This must be heaven....”
we’ll hopefully be in our spot last row center, you’ll know me if you see me!
T minus 9 hours and 30 minutes till liftoff!
Wwooooooooohhhhhhhooooooo!
Have fun but be safe sports fans!

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As long as a digital download is offered, I don't think any box set will sell out in less then a year or so. Look at the July '78 box. That was an AWESOME offering, 3 years ago, and there are still some on the shelf at Dead.net.

Rock on

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I have never been to a MUATM and I doubt they will be announcing the 2019 Box to such a small exclusive group that go to these meet-ups.

"we will be revealing an exclusive look at the Dead's soon-to-be announced 2019 boxed set"

It's going to be a look at not an pre-order announcement.

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I would imagine that they will first reveal the box at MUATM and will follow up with an announcement here after MUATM. I imagine they are using the announcement as an additional motivator for folks to attend MUATM. Everyone will get the announcement, but the folks at MUATM will get it first.

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although I already had this one as a bootleg SDB I was not disappointed. for the copies that circulated was riddled with cuts. the one that most stood out being the Cosmic Charlie that was the most disappointing. my show notes from a 6-23-18 listening: Too bad about the cuts in this tape. Maybe the vault has a complete copy. Still has replay value & good sound quality. - Not saying I called it or anything, just that it was optimism that actually paid off for once.

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I know we have talked about this before but the July 78 box set is the most under rated box release based upon the first 3 shows that were not circulated at all in sound board quality. The last two shows were out there in killer boards, but those first 3 are just such great upgrades... Think of it this way, what if the January and February boards from 1979 were all of a sudden released. We have had nothing but audience tapes for 40 years. No disrespect to the other boxes released... Before July 78 box was released i hadn't listened to 7/1, 7/3, 7/5 audiences since my tape trading days back in late 80's.... Now I am talking about one on it's anniversary date!!! Buy and listen before they are gone..... good weekend everyone.... bob t

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‘Soon-to-be announced’...

DL just waiting for windy day

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Hey Now Dead People! Happy Friday everyone and hope you had a great 4th. I’m in recovery mode but trying to get revved up for the first Boulder show tonight. Couldn’t make it out there, so will be streaming live...Carpet is fired up and ready to go!

Oroborous-watch out for The Sasquatch creatures....if they happen to abduct you it takes weeks to recover!

Not a huge fan of '78 because it's a lot more manic (or coke-fueled), and Bob's learning of the slide onstage, but these shows are great for the most part. My favorite of the bunch is still 7/1. I will take that over either Red Rocks show. I don't know if they felt like they had to be more precise in front of a country audience that expects precision playing, or if they just wanted to blow their minds, whatever it was, it clicked. The Omaha show was my least favorite of the bunch, but it's still a damn good show. Why a box with 3 completely uncirculated Bettys with terrific artwork hasn't sold out after 3 years is mystifying. Makes it even crazier that Get Shown the Light sold out faster than any other box. Sure those shows were well known, but also extremely well circulated. I imagine that leads to some trepidation on this year's box. Last year's PacNW '73-74 looked to be a shoe in to sell out, too, but is still there with an amazing box and art, and 6 fantastic shows. I don't want to see them cut down on the number of box sets available and possibly miss out on a quick sell out, which 7200 copies of Texas '72 could easily do, hypothetically speaking, of course. It's got to be hell on Rhino's accountants to figure this out, 30 Trips sells out at 700 bucks a pop within several months, GSTL sells out 15,000 copies in 2 days, and who knows how many music only editions and downloads, and the other boxes are still available. Maybe they shouldn't do the download editions...

The physical packaging is revealed, similar to the PNW Box last year.

https://youtu.be/ePU2Ygv1ILU

I placed my PNW order on 6-12-18, well before MUATM.

Although I would like a June 76 Box, I’m expecting an announcement on 7-17 that the Box will be Alpine 7-17,18,19-89 complete audio/video. Being that it’s the 30th anniversary.
And if that actually happens, I’ll be quite happy.

Have fun in Boulder folks.

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Folks in Boulder are getting real wet! Show Is being delayed and they told people to seek shelter.

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