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    "To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

    ¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

    Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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  • nitecat
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    Not the place or time

    Agreed.

  • JimInMD
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    This is too much for this forum. Not a great fit and sure to jump off the tracks.

  • daverock
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    Experience of the police

    Maybe the nature of our experience depends on our place in society at the time we have contact with them. Race, age, gender, drug of choice, whether you appear affluent or not...many different factors.

    My contacts with them were okay, I suppose. I used to get stopped a fair few times in the 1970s due to my appearance and age, but I only got caught out once. Curiously, in retrospect, this didn't really bother me that much-I was wary-but accepting. They were always alright with me.
    As I have got older, and straighter looking they seem to have lost interest in me. I was once stopped for driving too slowly (!), but as I hadn't been drinking they let me about my business. And when I was about 45 I was stopped on suspicion of shop lifting. Actually, that did make me angry. It was during a lunch break, and two young blokes who said they were plain clothes stopped me and one of them grabbed hold of me. It certainly gave me an insight in how something trivial could escalate into something more serious. It didn't in my case-I showed them my work i.d and they begrudgingly let me go. But they were unnecessarily provocative.

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    ... there is plenty of blame to go around on both sides of the political aisle for decades of increasingly aggressive policing and drug war excesses. I find both political parties repugnant on a regular basis. But if you look at his record on criminal justice you will see Joe was pushing for aggressive policing and punitive sentencing polices before Reagan, after Reagan, and in fact helped write some of the egregious drug war legislation that Reagan signed. I would have mentioned Ronnie if he were alive and running for president. Not trying to stir things up or offend anyone, but Joe's record is public record, you can easily verify his support for some of the worst criminal justice legislation of the '80s and '90s, all of which contributed to the increasingly aggressive tactics used by the police, the same aggressive mindset that contributes to these unfortunate tragedies. I think his current position is no MJ legalization, just some sort of decriminalization as he doesn't believe there has been enough research to justify legalization. It is what it is. Donnie may be a dick, but as president signed the First Step Act which actually started the process of rolling back the insane federal mandatory minimum sentences for non-violent drug offenses put in place in the '80s and '90s and gave federal judges more opportunities for a "safety valve" departure from the mandatory minimum sentences for non-violent drug offenders, nothing to scoff at whether you like the guy or not.
    Sometimes I wonder what it would be like if there were a presidential election where I felt like I could vote for someone that I really, truly wanted to be president. Hopefully my ramblings won't anger anyone.

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    Agree, let's not forget 84 Ventura while we're at it.

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    I don’t have that album as I own many of the tracks on other albums. It doesn't have the track I quoted on it ‘The cream of the nation’ but it does have a lot of good tracks on it. My quoted track is on a 2011 album ‘Some recent protest songs’. There is another album ‘The Liberty Tree’ made jointly with Leon Rossellson which might be of interest to people in the US as it intersperses songs by the two writers with spoken word stories about the life of Thomas Paine who wrote ‘The Rights of Man’, I should point out, to those of a nervous disposition, that the songs do have a left wing slant. Unfortunately I don’t have any digital versions and my computer is currently dead.

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    Those shows in 1985 were a blast,, as were all the shows I went to in Ventura, what a cool place to see the Dead! Those 1985 Ventura and Frost shows would make a great box set!

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    The Reagan's were the kingpins of the war on drugs. You can implicate Biden and others if you it makes you happy.. there's a lot of guilt to go around. It didn't make many of us happy at the time, including me. It was (is?) a terrible war and left much destruction in it's path. I could be wrong, but I don't see escalation of the drug war on the agenda, at least not on the democratic agenda. I am hoping MD will be one of the next recreational states but our current governor doesn't seem to be pushing it. Still, it's going to happen here soon.

    This current situation is entirely centered on racial injustice and the deaths of minorities (specifically blacks). There were no drugs involved in this incident and the last several as far as I can remember. Stolen cigars from a convenience store a few years back wound up in the mix. This entire topic is complicated and multifaceted, one could write a book on the topic and still leave stones unturned. The whole thing makes me sad. Perhaps my next listening adventure will contain Here Comes Sunshine. We need some good news.. or in the words of FZ, don't you boys know any nice songs? (or was that in the words of one of his groupies?)

    Just finished my second listen of Jai Alia. A wonderful show with some really special moments. I saved the bonus disc for tomorrow. Initially I felt gipped that we didn't get two complete shows. ..but they sure did pick the meat of the show for the bonus disc. The Playing in the Band is amazing.

    Now.. which version of Here Comes Sunshine is going to find me?

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    Caught the 7/14/85 Ventura County Fairgrounds on the Dead Channel last night....and wow, what an outstanding, exploratory, trippy show! Not sure how I've overlooked this one all these years, but I highly recommend it....the sound quality/recording used last night was just outstanding...(the archieve.org version not so much)...also, the day before 7/13/85 sounds equally as good! Maybe a future box set??...the boys were surely hitting on all cylinders, maybe it was because Live Aid was going down that weekend?? Also, the boys finish day 2 with "Day Job"?....bizarre.

    Stay cool people.....stay cool

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    I suspect much of the negativity directed at the police, and much of the conflict between police and inner city residents, is due to the "War on Drugs" and the mass incarceration regime that it spawned while the legislative branch seems to largely evade criticism on the issue. As an example, it was the War on Drugs made no knock warrants common place, and it was a no-knock warrant that led to the death of Breonna Taylor. It seems ironic to me that Joe Biden was one the primary proponents of the War on Drugs and mass incarceration regime for decades, including supporting the legislation imposing substantial sentencing disparity for crack cocaine as opposed to powder cocaine, and is now somehow the voice of reason after decades of selling himself as a tough anti-drug warrior. I guess nobody remembers the legislation he helped push through in the '80s and '90s let alone bother to question his culpability in promoting a drug war that had such a negative impact on people of color.

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"To my ears, the best Dead shows are those that not only fit the criteria that make them amongst the best of a year, but that are also completely unique for their era—shows that fit perfectly into their year of performance, but also fall somewhat outside of the norm for that year. Harpur College, Veneta, Cornell, Cape Cod, and Augusta are all shows that are objectively excellent, and if they are not the best from their respective years of performance, they are certainly unique. Miami 6/23/74 falls into that category: not only one of the very best shows from this outstanding year, but also one of the most interesting and unique. It’s certainly worthy of many, many deep listens." - David Lemieux

¡Ándale, ándale! ¡Arriba, arriba! We're back with a hot one from Miami, F-L-A. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 34 features the complete show from the Jai Alai Fronton, 6/23/74, one with unparalleled sound quality due in equal parts to the Wall Of Sound and the beautiful sonic clarity of Kidd Candelario's tapes. The first set is chock full of dynamite takes on classics like "Ramble On Rose," "Mississippi Half-Step," and "Cumberland Blues." The second set delivers on the JAMS - one leading into a gorgeous "Ship Of Fools," one rare instrumental version of "Dark Star," and a "Spanish Jam," this is Miami after all! The show also offers up a "first" and an "only" - the former, a Seastones set featuring Phil and Ned Lagin and the latter, the sole Grateful Dead performance of Chuck Berry's "Let It Rock."

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, DAVE’S PICKS VOL.34: JAI ALAI FRONTON, MIAMI, FL 6/23/74 has been mastered from the 7.5 IPS reel-to-reel tapes to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman. ¡Agarrarlo mientras esta calientito! (Get it while it's hot!)

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Subscribed to Dave's Picks? With this release, you'll also get a bonus disc with selections from Miami 6/22/74. Excellente!

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NAPPYRAGS, so happy to hear your good news!! There’s so much cancer going on in my tiny circle of friends, it’s frightening. I’ve lost 1, another has months to live, and a 3rd is doing well. I love to hear good news!!
Also, thanks for the hot tip on Bear’s Sonic Journals. I’m on it!!
Lastly, I was going through and playing some Janis Joplin cds recently, and was quite surprised to see that the 1968 Carousel Ballroom show released in 2012 states at the top: Bear’s Sonic Journals Presents....so that’s yet ANOTHER B’s SJ to collect. It also comes with rather strange instructions on speaker placement to enhance your listening pleasure. Crappy cover art, but a nice photo in the gatefold.
Less than 48 hours to go, my skin’s getting clammy & I feel nauseous......

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I bought two copies, one for me and one for my brother. July 24th is right around the corner, lots of great music coming soon, two Garcia# 14s , two WMD next week, and a Dave's Pick from 9/20/70 or 10/9/82 on August 1st. What a great time!

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The Christopher Walken cowbell skit from SNL. Replace cowbell with Dark Star and that's where I'm at. I got a FEVER. And the only cure is more Dark Star. 8/30/69.

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You mentioning your scan reminds me of one I had done about 12 years ago. It was amazing looking on the screen - I never knew it, but it seems I have a psychedelic light show inside my body. And there was me thinking it was all in my mind.
Talking of cellos, 50 years after the event I got round to buying Mick Farren's "Mona (The Carnivorous Circus) last week. You wouldn't think a cello solo would fit on a version of Bo Diddley's Mona-and it doesn't! Sergeant Pepper had a lot to answer for. Still, its different, I'll give it that.

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FOR THE COMMITTED
AND THE CURIOUS
Gather round every Thursday as we tell the tales of Grateful Dead days of yore! The Good Ol' Grateful Deadcast, the first official podcast of the Grateful Dead, is devoted to exploring the music and mythology behind one of the most enduring, progressive, and influential bands in the history of recorded music. Here, we invite you to delve into the band’s enormous mythology in digestible chunks. Think you know it all? We'll probe corners of the band’s history you never knew existed. No topic will be off limits.
Hosts Rich Mahan and Jesse Jarnow will take the lead, picking up special guests from the Dead universe along the way. Upcoming episodes will feature interviews with Dennis McNally, David Lemieux, David Nelson, Bill “Grateful Red” Walton and Trixie Garcia, amongst many others.
To celebrate the 50th anniversary of WORKINGMAN'S DEAD, we're kicking things off with an eight-episode arch that examines each song on the album individually.
May the long strange trip continue across the pod!

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*** Nappy Rags-“Congratulations !” Always grateful to hear grateful news! Peace be with you my brother, have a grateful day filled with lot’s of Love & Laughter! God bless my man!
🙏❤️💀🌹

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Great, great news! You must of been freaking out waiting....had similar situation with the misses a couple years ago. In her case we wouldn’t know anything until after surgery, and then wait for lab results, which they weren’t sure about, so then on to mayo or other advanced labs......finally all was good, but my god I thought the poor gal was gonna croak just from the stress of waiting! I can’t imagine how difficult that must be?
Rock on brother, and enjoy those awesome new tunes!

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But not good about Morricone. I think I have a disc of John Zorn playing the music of Morricone; I'll have to dig that out . . .

Finally got to the second half of 5/19/74 on a road trip this week. Wow. I had been underwhelmed by the non-Vancouver 1973 shows in that box, and was not thrilled by the 5/17/74 show or the terrible-sounding first disc of Portland, but the last two discs of Portland are very special, as all of you knew long ago . . . I already know about the 5/21/74 Playin'. That was the first show from the box I listened to, on its anniversary after the box came out.

Jim--no shame on the Workingman's axe! I just received my Garcia jigsaw puzzle. :)

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WTJ: yassss, sad but true..say my last Garcia show 25 years ago today....😞

Hey, thanks for the McCoy Tyner tips. Ripped Inception/Reaching Forth, Tender Moments, The Real Mccoy, and Sahara yesterday, great stuff! Going to add one with Stanley Clark and Al Foster today...can’t believe I didn’t have any of him yet. Thanks for the tips!

KCJ: please check your PMs

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Thanks, cool you were there Billy. I'll have to check out Dicks Picks #5 Jim.

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Check out 1972's "Extensions" by McCoy Tyner....amazing, and one of my fave LP covers to boot....the band is kinda good too...

Alice Coltrane _ Harp
Wayne Shorter_Tenor Sax
Gary Bartz_Soprano & Alto Sax
Ron Carter_Bass
Elvin Jones_Drums

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(This was the big news too. ) have a grateful day everyone! Be safe be kind & be grateful, we are the most spoiled fans in the world Dig it, far out! Keep on trucking all you Grateful Dead fans & freaks! 🙏❤️💀🌹

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Just got the email that Dave’s 35 is going to be 4/20/84 at Philadelphia Civic Center. I thought Lovemygirl said it was going to be 6/20/80.

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I was hoping for an 80s or 90s show. Someone here the other day mentioned how much she/he likes this "Holiday" show from 1984.

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Thank goodness for Dave's Picks. This announcement is some much needed good news in these times.

4/20 no doubt.

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Those shows deserve their own box. There's also that Gainesville show that pops up in discussion.

As big of a fan of Brent and that era, I'm happy with anything that comes out. I have nothing but time on my hands and looks to be the case through the foreseeable future.

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I like the setlist. My copy is so so. I HAVE to believe an "official" copy will be better. I like the cover. Thought this be one me and mine were at, but we appeared to have got east and north this tour. Long Island and Rhode Island. Guess we took and Island tour that year.

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What a surprise, this 1984 show has been on my radar for many many decades. There's a fantastic epic Scarlet > Fire, I used to have an audience version of this show and man The Crowd Goes absolutely berserk during that sequence. Very happy to have some more 1984 Dead.

Hope everyone is well.
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They must be saving 7/13/84 for a box set.

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I'm a bit under whelmed by this show...we shall see...

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From the Wikipedia page for the Philadelphia Civic Center:
"The Championship fight scene for Tommy 'the machine' Gun played by real life boxer Tommy Morrison for the 1990 movie Rocky V was shot there."

I think I've seen only the first Rocky film . . .

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Hey All! So I have been doing a trip into the summer of 1985 so this release slightly, I mean ever so slightly, disappointed me on the choice. Again this is only because I have been going through (and loving) the summer 85 tour so I had this hope that one of those shows may get to see the light of day for #35. Despite that, my disappointment is miniscule in comparison to my excitement. I am really looking forward to hearing this one. I am sure it will offer up some great jams.

I checked out the setlist for 4/20/84 over at Deadlists real quick and it looks pretty good. I am sure the playing is top notch. I can't help but express how much I like this variety of years/eras in the releases and such. Between the 1976 box set, the 3 Dave's Picks, the 2/21/71 show on Workingman's and then all of the later era great shows from the Shakedown stream there is so much goodness in all of this. Definitely, this goodness is needed now more than ever for a lot folks.

Plus it's crazy to think that we still have the 50th reissue of American Beauty, DaP 36, 30 Days of Dead and possibly another box all on the way. I thankful for all of this. Hats off to Dave L. and the crew !

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My 5th birthday! I was not one of those toddlers fortunate enough to have parents hip enough to bring me to a dead show. That would have been a cool 5th birthday present. Instead I probably got a He-Man or something. But i digress.

There's at least one good aud of this on the archive. How cool would it be if they did a matrix with the healy tapes and a good aud? The sound quality has been the main thing holding shows from this period back and it'd be nice to see them get creative with some sources, Dave's Pick #8 style.

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Dooooaaaahhh, was at the 16 & 17th so missed it by that much! Have a tape of 4/21 but guessing since I don’t recall it I mighta been underwhelmed? But that’s the 21, sounds like the 20th is hot?

DAVES=Multiple years, for good or for I’ll, I also have appreciated the effort to mix it up and cover more years with Dave’s. If only we could get 1/60s, 1/70s, 1/80s, and a 90s a year. But don’t see that happening...
Hopefully at least 1 80s or 90s a year. I think it’s doable and fair.

EDIT: Matrix,...what Slow dog said!

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Excellent choice, Dave!!!

Doubters, doubt not. This is a gooooood choice.

I promoted it recently on this here site. Coincidence? Hmmm...

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I was there on 20 April 1984 in the old Philly Civic Center and saw the Grateful Dead. All of 27 years of age, I don't remember too much of the show, but the audience tapes I have sound quite well, but somewhat obscures this fine performance.
Great Dew!

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The first Dave's picks versions of:

My Brother Esau
I Need A Miracle
Keep Your Day Job

I know how pumped everyone is for the first Dave Picks Era Day Job.

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I have not been following the comments of the releases here on dead.net for a while. Just reading through these recent comments on this Dave's Picks 34, I have not seen anything from our friend, Bolo24? About when was the last time he (or she) posted?
Anybody ever meet up with Bolo24 beyond the dead.net messaging system? He generally used to give us some odd clues about what he thought the next release is or could be.
So where is Bolo24?

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My favorite song. Yeah, sure. My favorite, totally pumped for this one.

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I'm sure I'm in the minority here, but I think Day Job is a really cool tune, I dig it!

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...78. Totally capitalizing on the holiday here. Anyone do track timings? Any chance for filler? I hope they do something special (Matrix maybe?) Fingers crossed. Definitely a bold choice...

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Slow Dog, you crack me up, you are really funny, what a great sense of humor! I' m still laughing about your story about dipping your whole body in hand sanitizer. Keep it comming, it's fantastic!

I too like "Day Job"...lyrics are fun ....what I wasn't a big fan of was the use of "Don't Ease Me In" either as a 1st Set closer or encore...always thought it was kind of flat with no real oomph in the playing, nothing special...

Wasnt demi one of their first singles?

"Demi Moore
back in the day
mighty nice
hey hey hey"

- Lil CPAP

Look! Here comes Professor Vasdeferenz...

"Don't Ease Me In vass der firsht GD sinkle back in 1966"

Thank you, Professor.

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Ha.. false prophet my ass!

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Anyone who wants to get a preview of what our fearless leader Dave L. will be probably be saying next Thursday check out the Taping Compendium. Tom Ferraro has some pretty interesting verbiage on his take of 4/20/84 . Although I am very interested in firing up this show I think I will wait the few weeks for it to come out. I have a feeling we are going to be told not to get caught up in the setlist but for an "84 show" they were firing on all cylinders. We shall see.

On another note someone posted this HILARIOUS video montage of The Music Never Stopped and it was one of those days I needed a good laugh so if you are having one of those days here ya go....God I miss Jack Tripper
https://youtu.be/RHf6tiFkr2s

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....got a pre-roll here that I would gladly split with anyone.
edit. Not Mulberry. But Mayberry. Auto correct will screw you if you're not paying attention.

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