Dave's Picks Volume 36: Hartford Civic Center, Hartford, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87)

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"And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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November 17, 2020 - 9:58am

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DeadVikes

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Double Post!

Double Post!
November 17, 2020 - 9:47am

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JimInMD

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Two From the Vault

I don't think Don recorded it.. but they were stuck with these multi-track master reels with major leakage between input sources that created timing sync interference between the instruments and vocals. I think there is much mention of this on the liner notes, what he figured out how to do is estimate the timing differences and edit out the interference using technologic wizardry.

Before this, the band considered the by then ancient tapes unusable, to my ears now, they sound magnificent.

I will dig up the liner notes and either create a new post or edit this one hopefully later today. Up to my elbows in alligators right now doing something else far less interesting.....

And Jeff and GFar, completely agree - many thanks.
November 17, 2020 - 9:31am

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JeffSmith

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Dr. Don's obit

Hey Gary, Good points and great perspective. Don Pearson's obituary, published by the Audio Engineering Society, may add some detail about Dr. Don's relationship with the Grateful Dead and the ultra matrix mystery:
https://www.aes.org/aeshc/jaes.obit/JAES_V54_3_PG245.pdf Yup, lots of fascinating and unexpected rabbit holes to explore.
The technicalities of sound engineering are way beyond my pay grade, but it appears to me that Dave's 36 derives from soundboard and audience recordings made by Dan Healy and Don Pearson that were fed/"baked" together on tape in real time in the 'Ultra Box' during the show. In 2020 this limited Jeffrey Norman's options during remastering.
Regardless of how off-base I may be on its source tapes, I love the heightened sense of the crowd that embellishes this release. For me the integral aud gives a cool alternative to the 'clean' soundboard recordings we all love. Not better or worse, just a different way of hearing the music in context – wouldn't mind getting one of these every now and then, especially when 'pure' soundboards don't exist.
November 17, 2020 - 9:09am

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Vguy72

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I found something!...

https://www.etsy.com/shop/Afamilywelcome?ref=search_shop_redirect
....figured I'd share, because sharing is caring.
November 17, 2020 - 8:36am

#355

Gary Farseer

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With you Jim

Let's storm the vault as a Valkyrie with flight of the Valkyries blaring.

I did not realize that 2 from the vault was Mr. Peason's work, but I now doubt it one bit. As far as my earlier post, I guess Mr. Pearson may have in deed been on the band's payroll, until 1978 when he started Ultrasound. It would make sense that he and John Meyer would have toured with the early tours. Probably not primal Dead but shortly thereafter. I don't know, but at least it provides another avenue, with unlimited rabbit holes, for us heads to research. I doubt any band has as much underbelly to be discovered as Grateful Dead has.

Hope your copy shows up soon, mine arrived on 10/29. Hope everyone gets theirs soon! This was originally going to be an edit of first post, but then saw your post.

G
November 17, 2020 - 8:34am

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proudfoot

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help me, fellow Deadheads

I am in an un-Dead phase. an "anything but the GD" phase.

I have tried palate cleansing, no GD for a few days.

Nothing.

I will live. but I miss that GD vibe.

It will probably come back eventually. "take a vacation, fall out for a while"

oh, the trials we face in life, eh?
November 17, 2020 - 8:15am

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JimInMD

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Pearson

Let's not forget, he brought us Two From the Vault. He was somewhat of a sound genius.

I probably misused the term Ultra Matrix in a post a couple weeks ago, and I don't have my physical copy of 36 yet so am not reading whatever it is they put there (it's currently in Jupiter and beyond the infinite, hopefully it will make it home soon)..

I still think this was culled from the source cassette master which was a mix of soundboard and two stereo audience mics by Dan. Many of the 87 soundboards have a similar sound ..but I could be wrong. It's a decent release which has gotten a couple good listens by now. Which begs the comment.. we need more GD.. when do we get our next show? We need a new release now! (let's get together people and storm the vault, who's with me?) Ark Ark
November 17, 2020 - 8:01am

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Gary Farseer

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DaP 36 and Matrix

Not to beat a Dead horse, but I also did a little more research about this recording and the now famous Don Pearson. I am very happy that I wrote in my last post "Mr. Pearson" as he is/was not just a taper, he is a sound reinforcement giant. Mr. Pearson is the co-founder of Ultrasound, a company he helped start in 1978. Years back we were discussing Dick's Pick #5, Oakland Auditorium/Kaiser, and were discussing the sound system. I am a little fuzzy on this as I cannot find the documentation that at the time was on the tip of my fingers. Anyway, on December 26, 1979, the organization brought out a new P.A. system. My understanding is this was the first Ultrasound P.A. system that the fellas used. It was a marriage made in heaven as it was the Ultrasound backbone of course powered primarily by McIntosh amps with an exhaust system developed (and constantly evolving) by John and Helen Meyer at Meyer Sound. (Now I realize that documentation is on a very old computer that I still have but dont access hardly at all, guess it is time to fire it up, so to say.)

I doubt Mr. Pearson was ever on Grateful Dead's payroll, although maybe??? My reasoning is thus, as Grateful Dead and now D&C were/are the driving force in sound reinforcement for the whole industry, I would imagine that Mr. Pearson saw a lot of shows prior to starting Ultrasound. After starting Ultrasound, he would be working for Ultrasound to physically hear the outcome of his hard work. Since the December 26, 1979 show through today the organization has used the marriage of Meyer Sound and Ultrasound. Meyer being the hardcore engineers in reinforcement and Ultrasound being the developer of the various P.A. systems, meaning Ultra does the many P.A. configurations for various sizes of venues. Ultrasound would be the one looking at the venues and developing the P.A. for the tour involved (and of course, many uncountable bands/tours/venues).

I will try to fire up the old computer to find an article about Meyer/Ultra that was written in a trade magazine, but here is a partial read.

https://meyersound.com/news/fare-thee-well/

And anyway, here is another read on the marriage between these two organizations.

http://www.dozin.com/ultrasound/main.html

Any way, that is enough for this a.m. Although I do have more to write on the two organizations that are direct offshoots of Grateful Dead and how it relates to this release. Hopefully, time will allow me to do this later today.

Smiles to all, and be very careful out there, it is a deadly situation for all.

G
November 17, 2020 - 6:35am

#359

JimInMD

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Re: Ain't it just like the night, to play tricks

I caught the one the month before on the East Coast. What a terrific cover and a terrific song. This one only seemed to get better with age.

She Belongs to Me, another special Dylan cover. This one's acoustic and has Bob and Jerry swapping lyrics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_8obCnsw4c

Have a good Tuesday all.
November 17, 2020 - 4:49am

#360

billy the kid

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Bob Dylan Visions of Johanna / acoustic live

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dp3pBB6PUgw. I saw the Dead play this on 4/22/86 at the Berkeley Community Theatre, 2nd song of the night ,1st song was Box of Rain. that was cool.

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"And with this incredibly tight batch of prime 1987 Grateful Dead, we’re thrilled to bring you Dave’s Picks Vol. 36, matching the number that will be forever tied to Dick’s legacy. Thanks for sticking around this long, and for joining us through these past nine years of archival live Grateful Dead releases." - David Lemieux

We're doing things a bit different for this one - two complete shows on four CDs, bringing you one of Dave's faves and what very well could have been one of Dick's Picks. Yep, back-to-back nights from peak era 80s - the furthest we've gone into the decade, in fact - that will bring you to joyful tears. DAVE’S PICKS VOLUME 36: HARTFORD CIVIC CENTER, HARTFORD, CT (3/26/87 & 3/27/87) delivers emotional takes on tracks like "Row Jimmy," "Black Peter," Uncle John's Band," and serves up a hit list of covers ("In The Midnight Hour," "Good Lovin'," "Desolation Row," "Promised Land," "Little Red Rooster," "Morning Dew," Johnny B. Goode") that'll have you hootin' and hollerin'.

Limited to 22,000 numbered copies, this one has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is guaranteed to sell out.

*2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

America has spoken!!....

....the sun seems a little bit brighter today.

Daves36 disc one...

...is now some of my favorite GD ever.

Thank you Dave for the new perspective.

Daves 36

It's not one large pizza

It's two mediums

Two gloriously steaming pizzas

"Yummy"

- Ace Ventura

Dave Lemieux

50 candles 🎂 on a Ganga carrot birthday cake for his half century tomorrow.

West LA Fadeaway

Jerry "little red light on the highway
Big green light on the speedway"

Fat Albert "hey hey hey"

I think i know what youmean, Oroborous

At least a week complete in a good mood.
I received the new Dave's I listened only once. It' s lock down again in France, and via Germany I grabbed a copy of American Beauty and 3 days later Working man' dead 50th.
I bought American beauty in vinyle, tape for the car , Cd, an a bit later the remaster with the bonus tracks and I don't pretend the dead has commercial intentions...
As I was expecting a port Chester boxset sooner or later I eventually got it
It took time to take the decision to buy the new copy. but it is Ok the sound is pretty good and the 2 concerts are top.
When I visited Us in 2002, I came back with a copy of Reflection I listened in the rent chevy in the wild west,with the beautiful Rowan Douglas Yonder, and Dick picks 7 I bought in San Diego. When I flew back to Europe I saw a student listening with a walkman a copy of American Beauty, likely a disk of his father, exactly what you need to stay in touch with your country and his cosmic cow boys. (Happy birthday)
This is the best disk the dead ever made in studio. a perfect disk for sunday morning. Obviously 20/20 was a good number for quarantine and I expect the new year with other good shows, and forgetting the sanitary situation.

YOU'RE FIRED!

Yes, the sun is shining brighter today Vguy.
:O)

The sun is just a teensy bit brighter today . . .

That's all.

And yet..

..you can still feel its rays over here in England.

Gratef..K Skul 50th anniversary

and what the next 50th anniversary
a full filmore concert of april, the wonderful Princeton show, Manhattan transfert, a mixt of spring 71?

Big Balls

some balls are held for charity

Big Balls, part 2

and some for fancy dress

big Balls, part 3

but when they're held for pleasure

big Balls, part 4

They're the balls that I like best

big balls - bon scott

Pure genius

Really happy for this two…

Really happy for this two show release. It really is immersive and captures the energy of riding that big old wave that was an 80's show. However this isn't what I'm looking for from this series. The matrix and ultramatrix recordings can be wonderful and a ton of fun, but these recording just aren't all that great. Way too much crowd. Massive muddling midrange. Feels distant. Phil is pudding. And the drums are somewhere in there. Don't get me wrong. This release is fun and gives any uninitiated head a taste of what it was like on the floor. Just not what I was expecting or hoping for from the series.

Just nineteen more years . . .

until the 50th-anniversary version of Built to Last comes out! Which show from 1989 will Dave include in the box? :)

And Happy Birthday, Dave!! Love ya', man!

In my very humble opinion, I…

In my very humble opinion, I'd give this one a "B", but not even a "B+". Like many others, I'm not thrilled with the crowd noise and the overall mix. I have plenty of 80s cassettes that will deliver the same sound quality. Phil seems pretty lost in the mix, Bob's guitar comes and goes. I don't think the "Birdsong" comes close to "best ever." And, I keep waiting for a searing solo in "China Cat ... I Know You Rider" that never materializes. On the positive side, Jerry sings like he's fired up, and Brent is playing well. I'm sure this release was a labor of love for Dave, but maybe it's time to pass the baton to a new set of ears...? Change is good.

#8251...

...has blow into Edmonton AB along with beautiful blizzard. After waiting seven weeks for DaP 35 to show up, I didn't expect this to arrive so soon - mailed off early, and took about two weeks to arrive. Dug into the first show last night, found it lovely and lively. That Bird Song really took me on a journey. And of course went to bed humming Mighty Quinn. I'll concede the crowd's a bit loud at first, but it evens out after a couple tunes and everything really comes together.

The '80s are by no means my comfort zone, but Dave's done a good job at converting me with these last two releases.

I am a robot, but not willing to admit it.

Oroborous

To answer your questions:
1-Hey, we're still in love and in it for the long haul. I know she thinks I listen to too much Grateful Dead, and doesn't quite get the collecting thing. And for sure she occasionally reminds me that I can still be an a-hole. I bet there are some of you on this thread who can relate.
2-Peggy O is a mutual fave, and we have enjoyed it together at many a show.
3- NOT on purpose. I was pretty high and did a slow motion fall back into her lap while she was taking a breather. I found the experience pleasant, and she just stared. I read her mind.
4- The Math: I kept bumping into her on campus, and it took me a year to get up the nerve to ask her out to dinner.
Our first show together was Charlotte, 05/03/79. Long story short, we became an item, played house, and finally realized that everything was just exactly perfect, and the rest is history.

Edit: I guess this could be, in some way, a Grateful Dead Love Story.

BIGBROWNIE

That sound like a Hallmark TV movie. Get the screenplay to them. Best wishes.

On the way

USPS tell me my copy is in the UK so the delivery now depends on whether the powers that be decide to charge me.

On ‘that’ other topic I’d say that the time is right for dancing in the street, but with the pandemic I think it would be better to stay at home and stay safe. Let’s hope 2021 improves quickly.

Happy 50th Dave!

From one Ontario Deadhead to another Ontario Deadhead! Enjoy!

Ya’ll

PROUDFOOT: not sure which I like better, 2 mediums or Fat Albert doing West LA, LOL

VGUY: I believe it’s even a tad brighter on my back door?

SHEKYERBONES: glad yer getting the new tunes and digging them. Funny juxtaposition yesterday enjoying people literally dancing in the streets but worrying it’ll kill em...

BIGBROWNIE: Built to last mi amigo, built to last! Been happily unmarried for 23 years, not sure how she does it!
It’s so nice to see folks still in love after so long! Pretty cool how things work out sometimes....
Great story, thanks for sharing!

THATMIKE: howdy neighbor! Used to be from “southern Canada” BITD...lived 15 minutes from the border so used to go up to Can-a-dy all the time. And Yassssss, a big

HAPPY, HAPPY, JOY, JOY TO MR LEMIEUX EH! Welcome to the old folks club! Do you guys get AARP up there ; )

RIP Alex Trebek

From one Ontario man to another Ontario man. May you Rest In Peace.

Oroborous - Always glad to have you visit, welcome anytime!

Trebek...

Total respect, Alex

Two raises of the proverbial glass to you, sir

Received unnumbered copy for my sub

Hi there. Long time lurker, first time poster (I think?). So I have had a sub for a while and I always get two copies. This time, one of my copies of DP 36 was unnumbered, presumably a promo. I was not super happy to discover this and emailed Dead.net customer service right away, and got the familiar "We are overwhelmed with email and will get to you whenever" message.

Has anybody else had this happen and how did Dead.net resolve it? I mean, I paid for a subscription to limited edition releases. I normally keep one sealed as a collector's item, or sometimes resell it, but regardless - I don't think this is too cool. Between this and the speed correction issues on the last two releases, I'm considering not subscribing next year. :/

so on November 8, 1969...

...I was at The Forum In So Cal to see the Stones (Two Shows that night) for my 19th Birthday...also on the bill was Terry Reid, BB King and Ike & Tina Turner...where does the time go indeed...I turned 70 today...ouch....Rock On All

Welcome, Bolder, and Happy Birthday, Nappy!

That's all, folks.

Nappy Rags/ Happy Birthday

Happy birthday Nappy, you're a
cool guy. Those Stones shows you saw sound fantastic!

Great line up, Nappy

That tour when you saw them at 19 seems to be have been the one when they really clicked as a live band. Very confident, choosing to follow Ike and Tina Turner and B.B.King. They often had great bands or artists at their shows. The first time I saw them,though, they were supported by Cracker. Which doesn't have quite the same ring to it.

I see that my previous comment seemed to disappear.

I noticed that my previous comment in this forum was removed. That does not seem to be in keeping with what I thought was a warts and all free comment section.

Happy...

Happy BDay Napster.

Comments Disappearing

It seems to happen from time to time. Usually, but not always the result of cleaning up spam and sometimes they get a post or two that surrounds the spammer. I had a post disappear that had the word dose or dosed in it.

I'd take it as a badge of honor.

Missing posts

Sometimes it’s a reCRAPTCHA glitch.
It’s happened to me before. Took the reCRAPTCHA quiz and the whole page disappeared. When I reloaded the page the post was gone.

If your post was available for reading and then it disappeared, then it may have been scrubbed.

Bolderdash

Yes, the same happened to me. I've had one subscription for years, but I snagged an extra #32 (3-24-73 Spectrum) for a friend. One numbered copy arrived but a second never did. So i reached out to customer service and 4-6 weeks later an unnumbered copy arrived. I kept the numbered and gifted the un-one.

Dave’s Picks Print 1-36

First one I’ve seen on eBay, $1,500. I’ll sit this one out.

Still no Dave's 36 delivery in New York City?

As of 10/30 UPS tracking said that the package was transferred to a post office in the Bronx N.Y. where I live and would be delivered that very day but it still has not arrived. When I go to USPS tracking it says that they received "pre-shipment info" on 10/30 -- not the actual package. So there is a discrepancy between what UPS says and what USPS says.

So right now I am Sitting in Limbo!

Has anyone here in the New York area received Dave's 36?

As always my heart goes out to our long-suffering european friends and their postal dilemas.

Re:

I'm in the same boat in Maryland. It's been stuck in the label created ready to be shipped status for a week and a half.

Gonna get there... I don't know. Seems a common way to go.

I'm still not that worried but eventually I will have to take corrective actions on my own, which is always a bit of a pain.

5942 has arrived

In the Toronto area. No rhyme or reason as to how fast or slow these things show up, really up to the whim of the post office. Being retired, I do some part time work at the post office just to hang out with folks, and at all the stations I’ve been at, it is like an Amazon/Wayfair etc warehouse, about 75% of the volume (my guesstimate) packages. In all fairness, they do try getting this stuff out the door, but man, it is overwhelming, so I’m not surprised when packages sit.

I hope everyone gets delivery real soon.

shipping of fools

the old shipping blues

today is Monday

you will reCEIVE your Daves today! can I get an amen?

and

"I woke up this mo'nin'
No Daves been in my mail
I woke this mo'nin'
No Daves been in my mail

If it don't show up today
I'll jump around and flail"

I'm a regular Bob Dylan!

The waiting is the hardest part

Also waiting since 10/30 here in NJ. UPS says USPS has it. USPS says they are still waiting. I would pay extra for real shipping with real tracking.

RE: 71stang

I've read elsewhere online from other NJ residents how theirs are also missing. Same with me. It seems they're all on the same vehicle to be delivered to the post offices but that vehicle has gone MIA or is simply sitting in the same spot on their property. There's no telling when/if they will arrive to the correct post offices. I even noticed my tracking received a retro-active update on the 30th stating it was transferred. I call foul because the update was not there at 1:35pm on that day because I was checking it through the afternoon and did not see it until the evening that day. They're still in possession of them but I'm sure they'll deny it and we can't put in a claim with UPS either.

And I agree with you. I would gladly pay for shipping if it meant avoiding UPS mail innovations. The Bridgeport hub is a blackhole.

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