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    What's Inside:
    7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
    Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
    Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
    Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
    Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
    Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
    Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
     
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

    Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
     
    LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973. 
     
    The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
     
    The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
     
    All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”  
     
    Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others. 
     
    Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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  • FiveBranch
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    Quite the change from the '72 shows. But bluesy seems to be the predominant theme flowing through this release. 'American Night' could have been an alternate title. With that said, at the moment this BT Wind is my favorite verion-- on account of Keith undulating his electric while Jerry piques out some perfectly heart felt licks. Less can be more. Eyes is probably the most intense playing not just of the first set, but the second set as well. Clicks into place just the way any head would want it. Although, that Greatest Story is equally wicked. But the quieter approaches taken with the Truckin' jam and TOO appeal to me as well, with Jerry tucked off to the side. Nice to have that to select from when not up for the teeth chattering drive the jams are known for. Oh, can't leave the Bertha out. Got Phil to thank for that one!!!

  • Oroborous
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    Why CDs?

    Crow, I think some folks just like collecting “stuff”. I know it’s not a very trendy thing, but some do and to me it’s the ultimate back up. No matter how well you try and protect and back up, it’s nice to know you have the physical media on the shelf, just in case.
    Now Dennis on the other hand… ; )

  • dissident1980
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    Get Shown the Light random question

    Hello all, I bought 2 Get Shown the Light box sets way back when they were originally released ... I hate the packaging, hate the way the discs slide in and out of those way too big cases ... for a long time I've kept the second box unopened, thinking it might be valuable someday (then they released the all music edition) ... so I've struggled with the 5 5 77 show for years, the second disc simply will not play ... so I opened the second box today, went right to 5 5 77 disc 2, and lo and behold, same exact thing, defective, won't play ... disc 1 plays fine, but the 5 5 77 disc 2 from both copies of the box set I bought will not play ... I can't imagine that I'm the only person with this issue, given my 0 for 2 performance on the same disk from 2 different box sets ... This is beyond frustrating. Has anybody else had issues with 5 5 77 disc 2?

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    It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see…..

    50 years ago today…..

    November 6, 1971
    Harding Theater, San Francisco, California

    Set 1: Bertha-Me And My Uncle-Sugaree-Jack Straw-Tennessee Jed-El Paso-Loser-Playing In The Band-Cumberland Blues-Black Peter-Beat It On Down The Line-Deal-Mexicali Blues-Sing Me Back Home-One More Saturday Night

    Set 2: Ramble On Rose-Me And Bobby McGee-Cryptical Envelopment>drums>The Other One>Cryptical Envelopment>Comes A Time-Sugar Magnolia-Brown-Eyed Women-Not Fade Away>Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad>Not Fade Away

    A solid, well played show, with a blazing Bertha opener, nice first set versions of Black Peter and Sing Me Back Home (the last SMBH of 1971), a complete Cryptical/Other One/Cryptical suite (which sweetly goes into Comes A Time [an unusual coupling]), and a typically November-nice NFA suite (according to Dick Latvala himself, “One of the most exciting versions.”).

    Definitely recommended!!!

    And, incidentally, dedicated to Hugo Winterhalter….

    Rock on!!

    Doc
    The young man knows the rules, but the old man knows the exceptions…..

  • wilfredtjones
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    What?

    You don't wear cds?

    P.S. Come to think of it, is it the bandana...?

  • Crow Told Me
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    Goin' Down Down Down Down Down

    There is most definitely a download version of the box available. Still.

    And I'm surprised downloading is not a more popular option, given how many people report that the first they do on receiving these things is to rip the discs (to a phone or whatever, I guess) and then put the CDs back in the box and file it away in the attics of their lives. I wonder why they don't just get the download, which is cheaper, and which avoids shipping costs and delays?

    It's a long lane that go no end, it's a bad wind don't never change.

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    Declaration of goods

    Apparently the US shipper stated that the contents was "Listen to the River CD Box" but by the time I received it the contents on the UPS invoice was declared as "Merch" which could mean literally anything. Just about everything that could be done wrongly was done wrongly.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Another WMG screw up

    Declaring CD’s to be clothing on legal customs documentation.

    You should all get together and find a lawyer in California (probably not very hard) to file a class action lawsuit against WMG and seek restitution and damages.
    Keep in mind that the lawyer will probably take 49% of the settlement.

  • daverock
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    Colin - Delivery Charges

    Colin -and Simon, good news. Perseverance obviously pays off. You have to stay focussed, though don't you! I phoned them and emailed them about 10 days ago. They assured me they would get back to me, didn't, and I forgot about it again. So thanks for keeping this subject on the agenda. I will phone then again on Monday. I paid the £63 plus.

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    Netherlands delivery charges.

    A similar story here to the UK delivery charges story, but even worse. I kid you not. People here had to pay €116.07 ($134) to UPS. This comprised €13.00 provision, €2.73 VAT on the provision, €47.09 VAT on the goods and €53.25 import duty. VAT here is 21% but we were charged 27.6%. Import duty here varies between 0% and 12% - for books and CDs it is 0% but we were charged 31.2%. How this is possible is not clear to me. Either the UPS person doing the paperwork is totally inept or a blatant thief. Anyway, after some calls to UPS, the matter was sorted and credit notes were sent out. The credit note is for €64.43 and shows that instead of being charged €116.07, we should have been charged €51.64.

    I hope in the future that these box sets are sent out using the same Mail Innovations that is used for Dave's Picks. That way the customs declaration is filled out by the sender and taxes, duties etc. are levied by the customs. UPS seem totally incapable of doing this in a correct manner themselves.

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What's Inside:
7 Previously Unreleased Complete Shows On 20 Discs
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/09/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 12/10/71
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/17/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/18/72
Fox Theatre, St. Louis, MO 10/19/72
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/29/73
Kiel Auditorium, St. Louis, MO 10/30/73
Sourced from tapes recorded by Rex Jackson, Owsley "Bear" Stanley, and Kidd Candelario
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Restoration and Speed Correction by Plangent Processes
 
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 13,000

Steamboats and BBQ, ice cream cones and Mardi Gras - are you ready to laissez les bons temps rouler with the "gateway" to the Grateful Dead? Meet us, won't you, in St. Louis for seven complete and previously unreleased Dead concerts that capture the heart of the band's affinity for the River City.
 
LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73 is a 20CD set featuring five shows from the Fox Theatre - December 9 and 10, 1971; October 17-19, 1972; and two from the Kiel Auditorium - October 29 and 30, 1973. 
 
The seven shows in the collection span slightly less than two years, but they represent some of the best shows the Grateful Dead played during some of its peak tours. The music tells the story of a band evolving, changing from one sound to another seamlessly, precipitated – in large part – by significant personnel changes in the Dead’s lineup.
 
The two 1971 shows feature the original Grateful Dead lineup plus newcomer Keith Godchaux on piano. This version of the band would hold together for the next six months as the Dead embarked upon its Europe ’72 tour. By the time the Dead returned to the Fox Theatre less than a year later, they were without Pigpen, who’d played his final show with the Dead at the Hollywood Bowl on June 17, 1972. A year after the exceptional Fox 1972 shows, the Dead came back to St. Louis, but played the much larger Kiel Auditorium, touring behind the release of WAKE OF THE FLOOD, which came out just two weeks before.
 
All told, the band played 60 different songs during these shows highlighted by blazing romps through “Beat It On Down The Line” and “One More Saturday Night” and wistful takes on “Row Jimmy” and “Brokedown Palace” (whose lyrics give the collection its name). Meanwhile, the copious jamming ebbed and flowed like the mighty Mississippi River on multiple voyages through “The Other One” and “Dark Star.” Naturally, the band paid tribute to one of its favorite rock and rollers and one of St. Louis’ biggest stars by playing Chuck Berry songs at every show in the collection, including Pigpen galloping through “Run Rudolph Run.”  
 
Each show has been restored and speed corrected using Plangent Processes with mastering by Jeffrey Norman. The collection comes in a slipcase with artwork by Liane Plant and features an 84-page hardbound book as well as other Dead surprises. To set the stage for the music, the liner notes provide several essays about the shows, including one by Sam Cutler, the band’s tour manager during that era, and another by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether, among others. 
 
Due October 1st, LISTEN TO THE RIVER: ST. LOUIS ’71 ’72 ’73, is limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from Dead.net.

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So I'm curious, those of you who received the box, anyone live on the east coast? Just wondering how far they've made it. I also have a Sunday delivery scheduled. Post office only delivers Amazon on Sunday. Not to mention they are closed Monday. Which means only Amazon then as well. They may deliver priority on Monday but I doubt this box is priority.

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8336 arrived in Denver today.👍

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....shipping update never changed to "out for delivery". Stayed in "on its way" mode. Delivered by UPS, no USPS. I'm still at work. Will report back later. The digital download comment page is still a shitshow.
Edit. I'm west coast.

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This has got to be the worst box set packaging yet. Unnecessarily large, just for the sake of making it look impressive from the outside, I guess. It's not HUGE, but way bigger than it needs to be. There is so much wasted/unused space that you could fit 5 or 6 more digipacks inside. If you haven't received yours yet, you will see what I mean. Very poor design. I'm disappointed. In my opinion, the ideal package/box design is doing it like the July 1978 box or the first May 1977 box. Keep it minimal! I know I'm not the only one who feels this way as I've read other similar comments about box size/style preferences. No comment on the shows themselves. As long as all the discs play without issues I know what to expect - lots of hours of primo GD listening enjoyment.

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Anyone seen Dave? He must be down by the water doing a lot of nature watching and videoing! Looking forward to all the details of St. Louis and Dave’s Picks!

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A rabid pack of sea otters may have gotten him while he was recording the DaP40 announcement.

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....and, while I agree somewhat on smaller boxes, this one is indeed beautiful and not too big.
Somewhat spoiler. The banter before the 12.9.71 Truckin' is hilarious and somewhat foreshadowing. You'll know what I'm talking about when you hear it. Sounds grate!! Time to change my avatar and turn it to 11!

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#05451 it is...and I do like the box...The digi-paks themselves though, that's another matter....

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5 hours ago my box set was in Kentucky. UPS now say it will be delivered, to me in the UK, on Monday 10th. Still seems unlikely given all the custom clearance that will be needed. I may never leave the house again!

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Mine also arrived in Kentucky early this morning and has an estimated delivery time of Monday morning. I haven't received any request for payment yet so I will be surprised if I see it on Monday. At least it is heading in my direction so I have no reason to complain.

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Simonrob-not often you can say that! Not you personally, I hasten to add-not often "one" can say that. Still, the day is young.

I'm 10-45am-2.45pm on Monday now, too. I must say, I am looking forward to getting this one more than I have been with any other parcel this year. And there have been a few.

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yet? anyone listen to these shows yet? searching for the sound, is it all there? dropouts? patches? pristine beauty? Bueller? I hear the 72 vinyl is fantastic, sure hope these cds are as phenomenal.

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I will go out on a limb and mirror your remarks. I listened to this run a few years ago, and that's my memory. That PITB/Dark Star Morning Dew sandwich is indeed the special sauce from the whole sequence.

..but in fairness, I have not gotten any of this yet, so no fully cleaned up listens. I could change my mind, but I doubt it.

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My box now in Philadelphia with a UK delivery time of Monday 12:00 - 15:00. No ransom note yet but I expect I'll get one.

If you believe you have been charged excessively then you can contact UPS Postflights Department to clarify the charges on 0345 7 877877 or send an email to ukpostclearATups.com attaching the dead.net invoice, and make the subject your tracking number.

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Was here when I got home from work last night!.

The box is nicely printed on and I don't mind the size. What I don't like is the way the cds are in the big box, you have to tip the box over to get them out (or have very long finger nails!) Not a big thing, since I'll only be taking them out to rip. The swag is cute.

Now on to the music!

Oh,,, somebody mentioned wasted space in the box,,, it's not wasted. If you push the hidden button the space will open up into a replica of the stage in 71,,,,, very impressive!!!

..... he's lying! Every time some white reporter shows up he says he box does something special.

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1431 has landed in PA. I won't be able to listen until tonight but i'm so excited it's here.

Was surprised to hear the comments about the size - when it arrived i actually thought it would be bigger. It's basically the size of a personal-sized pizza box. Not bad at all. Enjoy, everyone!

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....that's what my wife says anyways and everyone loves pizza.
As far as the sound, I'm through the '71 shows so far and they sounded excellent 👌. Going to see the new James Bond movie this afternoon then will dip into 1972, which were recorded by Bear, so I'm sure they will be auditory bliss.
Btw, if anyone wants to check out some nifty Grateful Dead playing cards, go to theory11 dot com for some quality ones they offer, among others.
Obligatory joke.
What does James Bond's doorbell sound like?
Dong. Ding Dong.
Have a grate weekend everyone!!

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Ian - thanks for that-I think I'll give them a ring on Monday morning and see if they can account for the £63.15 charge. I've already paid it, but....well, see how far I get.

Jim - yes, my comments are pure speculation, of course, although I have heard 10/18/72 before. For me it is one of the great shows - and about to get better, if the vinyl is anything to go by. The dark horses for me in this set are the 1973 shows. Not much has been said about them so far.

As to the size or look of the actual box-I don't really mind about that. As long as the cds play ok I'm at peace.

Happy to finally get a delivery email. Arriving this coming Tuesday, can’t wait to start listening. I don’t care about the size of the box, I just care about the music. For those who already have it… enjoy your weekend.

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Box set dimension is worrying me
I can't hardly sleep at night
'Cause of box set dimension

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Just got back from a very windy bike ride to find that #00154 (lowest number yet...must mean I am cool) had landed on my door step. Still no shipping confirmation email, but I am here for the tunes not the emails. The rest of my Saturday has been spoken for! Yippeee!

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A Deadhead's life for me

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Listened to Yes Relayer all the way through

Some sections were out there

Some was good

Some was....meh

A pretty thick chunk of musical meat all around

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Where is the number on the box, I looked all over the external box and internal box. Also, the corner of the box got bent in a little during shipping, not a huge deal, but I would prefer perfect. Live with it?

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The Apollo has landed... the set opens with a great deal of witty banter before a 12/9/71 "Truckin'" with Phil telling people they can go across town and listen to Grand Funk Railroad... so far so good, great era, great set list, great vibes.

The limited edition # is stamped in foil on the back of the book. This is indeed a beautiful set, if there's one thing Rhino does well it is package art design. A thin, slim volume that is very bookshelf friendly, the inks are beautiful and I give it 5 stars out of 5. I am rarely disappointed by the design of these boxes, each unlike another and this one is no exception.

Glass of Jack Daniel's in hand and EVH Frankenstrat on my lap, I now leave you to embark on an hours long listening binge.

Bon Voyage!

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....apologies ledded. But you really need to step up your whiskey/bourbon game. Other than that, rock on.

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I see it. Executed to rip and play the music. Can’t get enough 71.

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....what's the number? We're waiting.
You joined on my birthday btw. Cool.
Firing up 10.12.72 now.
I'm excited.
Ledded brought up a good point regarding the boxes. Every one of them is different. Even the Spring 90 and Spring TOO don't exactly match.
It's like the island of lost toys, but in Dead Box fashion lol.
Bird Song in the second slot on 10.12.72? That works. The sound is impeccable and no skips so far.
Thanks Bear!! Truly a magician/scientist. Onward!!

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2655. All 3 are good years and look like good shows. I love these early 70s shows. The packaging on this one is reasonable too, although hard not to slide out all the disks.

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....yup. Should have included some
ribbons. Minor complaint though.
Felt inserts in the digipacs wouldn't hurt either.

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Got mine. The hardcover book has a whole section of pages that were manufactured upside down from page 5 through page 12. Page 4 goes to an upside down page 12. Anybody else have this printing mistake? If so than someone forgot to proof read the final product. If it's just mine I received a misprinted book.

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2252 and all the pages in the book are right side up (not upside out or inside down). Spacebro, I think you got the special collector's edition.

Disk 1 had some minor scratches on arrival. That would have helped. So far the other disks all look good. Again, they all play fine, just not quite perfect. My Giants Stadium box was the same. One of the digipaks wasn’t glued so the disk slid to the bottom. Minor issues though. As long as the disks are ok.

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....I have a poster from the 1999 Bob Dylan/Paul Simon tour that says Las Vegas, CA.
Walked up to the merch stand after the show and the vendor said "All we have left are these misprints."
I should've bought three.
Lucky Bro.

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if the band in the first set of 12-9-71 -- Brown-Eyed Women, Mr. Charlie, and Tennessee Jed -- doesn't sound almost exactly like the Euro '72 band of four months later with Keith in high gear after two months in the keyboard chair. I know that shouldn't be astonishing -- only four months from St Louis to Europe -- but the sound quality and the playing were so close I had to comment.

As for the book, I had multiple pages glued together by a tiny area near the binding and the pages got damaged as I easee them apart. Otherwise, nice packaging, although I'll probably toss the box itself and shelve the individual shows chronologically in my '66 to '75 shelf.

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Did anyone else notice that the first set on 12-9-71 begins with quite muffled sound on Truckin'? At first I was taken aback, but the sound quickly improved to astounding quality -- but right at the start it's sub-par.

That is all for now. Finishing the first show tonight and taking a few days' break til 12-10-71.

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Looking forward to this.
Surprised that we really have not seen the box set.
It is the level of creativity to these packages that keeps winning me over.
Has anyone done an unboxing YouTube video yet?
The Dead.net web site really is not showing much.

USPS left it at my front door before 1pm.

Did a quick inspection and the box itself is an epic waste of space. Approximately 3/8 of the interior is just air. So, not just a waste of shelf space but also a waste of materials and resources.
Looks like my book was printed correctly.
CD cases are paperboard like 30 Trips and Road Trips.

Overall dimensions, for those who haven’t received it but want to know, it’s a little bit smaller than an LP vinyl case and about 3 inches thick.

Will give a first listen tonight.

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No box yet, but thinking along the lines of Hendrixfeaks last but one post, I would say that when I think of 1971, as a year, I tend to think of the 5 man and not the one with Keith and Donna in it. From the moment Keith joined the sound changed to that explored in 1972. So 1972, for me starts in October 1971 and ends with Pigpens last show in summer 1972. Which is when 1973 starts.
The same argument applies to earlier years to some extent, too. The division of the bands progress and sound as being typified by particular years is quite arbitarary, when you come to think about it.

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