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    Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

    WHAT'S INSIDE:
    6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
    • 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
    • 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
    • 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
    • 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
    Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
    Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
    Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
    Photos by Richie Pechner
    Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

    Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

    "We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

    Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

    The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

    For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

    PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

    Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

    Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

    Get it while you can.

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  • marye
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    Tim and others with disc issues
    if you're still having trouble, send me a PM and I'll pass it to the Doc.
  • TimP
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    I too have had 2 issues with…

    I too have had 2 issues with this box set. 1 - my booklet had been bent during packing and I have 1 defective disc Disc 17 (disc 1 of 5/21/73 Seatle. Big scuff mark and skips on track 9 and fails to pick up on track 10 /11 / 12 after skipping.)

    Got the standard response from Rhino - filled in the forms and nothing back from them yet. Both complaints now over 30 day s outstanding - any advice on how to proceed.

    BTW -- a lot of fantastic music on this set -- but also a lot of recordng issues -- most of which have been already mentioned. This too is making me question whether to buy complete boxes in future ??

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    The Pacific Northwest ’73-’74 big box

    My big beautiful insane Pacific Northwest box arrived on Thursday afternoon, September 13. I opened it up, examined it for damage or weirdness. I found lots of weirdness, but no damage at all. It was (and is) perfect, but I was busy so I put it away on my living room bookshelf. Yesterday, November 4, I took the box into my office and started ripping and listening to the CDs. This is astonishingly beautiful music. The playing is intense, inspired, and precise, and the clarity and detail of the recordings (as rendered here) are breathtaking. There are some flaws scattered about – dropouts and balance issues – but for me these flaws do not detract at all from the immensity of the greatness of this box of beauty. These are among the greatest Grateful Dead recordings I’ve ever heard (and I have 288 hours of Grateful Dead recordings ripped so far). So thank you for this fantastic effort. A lot of work and care went into this, obviously. Similar to some of the Mosaic boxes of classic jazz recordings, this one is for people who want to hear all of it, not just curated highlights.

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    MARYE - defective discs

    Hey I just saw your message in thread, I think I got it all sorted out with email to customer service. They replied with replacement disc on the way.

    I appreciate the speedy response and help.

    Time to rock out !!!

    Spinning some 1985 Grateful Dead

  • MDJim
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    I see this too, but there is a silver lining.. I am seeing lots of new folks step up and post positive comments, reviews and keep the vibe alive. The yang is there too.. a bit of complaining and the blem CDs and manufacturing error rate provides more than a valid reason to complain. I would consider providing CDs that play a core competency.

    Still we get some good with the bad and new inputs and perspective is a good thing. I hope we didn't lose more than we gained.. there are a few I have not seen in a while that consistently added to the mix.

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    I would agree with the points below, but it may also be the fact that there are multiple recent release threads - e.g. this PNW box thread, the DaP 28 thread and the DaP 2019 Subscription threads. Who knows, hopefully it will pick up again.

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    I think Reijo has a point.

    Drifters, I see your point too. But I like that show and am still glad it got released. The China>Rider, WRS and Jam after Truckin' are very nice and I really like the young Peggy-O's which are somewhat special and rare. The fade is on the source recording so the choice is whether to release the show or not.. all the remastering in the world is not going to bring the vocals up in the mix.

    Dicks Picks used to place a caveat emptor on the back of the jewel case regarding sonic anomalies and the ravages of time, etc. The other point to make about some of these box sets is the tendency to make something very good and slip in a show that might not have made it as a Dave's Picks. Sort of slip one in on is. I don't think this is the case for this box, but 30 Trips had a couple of these. For $30 a show, and being a bit of a completist myself I am ok with it.. but I see the other side of things. I am sympathetic but happy to see these old tapes get special treatment. I appreciate the efforts they went through making this sound as good as it can.. but that's just me. One opinion.

    Love the latest Dave's Picks.. but a topic for another thread. Talk about exceeding expectations...

  • reijo29
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    hate to complain but...

    They should really put these chats right under the product page the way it was previously. There are now less and less posts cause it's simply a headache to find these threads. I think the community is thinning out because of this. Steve Hoffman Forums is a great alternative community for GD superfans who want to chat up these releases or anything else.

  • Drifter's Escape
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    Mix issues

    I totally understand there may be sound issues with recording sources that are 30-50 years old. Recently we've had the heavy 'reverb' on the GSTL from '77, the splice in Dave's 27, Eyes of the World, which seemed to enrage so many, and now the various issues with PNW. Bill and Donna are high in the mix at times and some say Jerry is too low.
    My complaint is on disc 1 of Portland '74. From about halfway into Sugaree thru El Paso the vocals are practically inaudible. Like karaoke versions. Which admittedly is kinda fun in a weird sorta way. But c'mon.
    Maybe there should be a page or paragraph or Something in the already included literature by the producer/engineer where they could address and acknowledge some of the issues with a particular release.

    What's the old saying? "Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining". And don't say nothing and pretend that everything is just exactlty perfect. By saying Nothing it only makes people wonder if it's only their disc/equipment/ears/delusion.

  • MDJim
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    Re: Unkle/Remix the Entire Box

    Perhaps I am behind in reading all these posts.. but the mix issues on my CDs seem to match up with the mix issues on the soundboards in the Archive. This means either the problems with the mix exist on the source master reels or all these sound engineers are hitting off the same crack pipe (which I guess is a possibility albeit a slim one). So remixing the entire box would likely yield the same result, but at great expense and causing much confusion for all.

    Just to make sure I was not seeing double (hey.. it happens), I took some time to compare the PNW box to my source soundboards that I pulled down from the archive long, long ago. The issues with the mix are consistent comparing one show to the next.

    Is this another poke to make sure we have maintained our sense of humor? ….remixing the entire box seems a bit silly perhaps, but not very much fun.

    Again, I could be missing something..

    One thing comparing my recordings to these did yield.. the PNW box sounds better than what I pulled down. Even the 73 shows sound quite good to me and my system with and without headphones.

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Pacific Northwest ’73-’74: The Complete Recordings Boxed Set

WHAT'S INSIDE:
6 Complete Shows On 19 Discs
• 6/22/73 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 6/24/73 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 6/26/73 Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA
• 5/17/74 P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C.
• 5/19/74 Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR
• 5/21/74 Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering
Masters transferred and restored by Plangent Processes
Original Art by First Nations Artist Roy Henry Vickers
Photos by Richie Pechner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 15,000

Includes an immediate digital download of "Eyes Of The World (P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada 5/17/74)"

"We were in the Pacific Northwest...between somewhere in Washington and some other where in Oregon. The road took us to the lip on a ridge, from where we could see around us for many miles in all directions … It was breathtaking to behold, but as we watched, we had a firm realization that we were witnessing something even more beautiful than our eyes could ever take in … Life causes life. Heaven and Earth dance in this way endlessly, and their child is the forest. And so there we were, epiphanously watching that grandest and most glorious dance of life—of which we are just a tiny part—awed by a magnificence without beginning, without end..."

Bob Weir, “Sell Headwaters—Everyone Wins,” San Francisco Chronicle

The Pacific Northwest offers up a rich feast of land, sky, and water. It is ripe with influences, abundant with symbols, deep and spirited. It should, therefore, come as no surprise that the Grateful Dead played some of their most inspired shows on these fertile grounds. It does, however, sometimes take a breath for the elements to re-align years later. It seems for us, they finally have and we are able to present not just a glimpse of the band's extraordinary exploratory tour through the region, but a two-tour bounty as the PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS.

For PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS, we've paired two short runs made up of six previously unreleased shows - P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, B.C. (6/22/73); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (6/24/73); Seattle Center Arena, Seattle, WA (6/26/73); P.N.E. Coliseum, Vancouver, Canada (5/17/74); Portland Memorial Coliseum, Portland, OR (5/19/74); and Hec Edmundson Pavilion, University of Washington, Seattle, WA (5/21/74). Each show has been mastered in HDCD from the original master tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Mockingbird Mastering. The transfers from the masters were transferred and restored by Plangent Processes, further ensuring that this is the best, most authentic that these shows have ever sounded.

PACIFIC NORTHWEST ’73-’74: THE COMPLETE RECORDINGS comes in an ornate box created by Canada’s preeminent First Nations artist Roy Henry Vickers (more on this tremendous artist soon). To complement the music, the set also includes a 64-page book with an in-depth essay by Grateful Dead scholar Nicholas G. Meriwether and photos by Richie Pechner.

Due September 7th, this release is limited to 15,000 individually numbered copies and available exclusively from dead.net. You'll want to grab a copy while you can and sit back, relax, and enjoy all the exclusive content we'll be rolling out over the next few weeks.

Looking for something a little more byte-sized? The collection will also be available for HD digital download in FLAC and ALAC, exclusively at dead.net, on release day. You can pre-order it now too.

Get it while you can.

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Hey now Dead freaks, I have 4 Dead and Co. tickets for sale if anybody wants them. I bought them earlier in the year thinking that I would have more travel time this summer, but sadly it's not working out. They are are field GA seats with hard copy 3D Souvenir tickets. I will mail the tickets to you at my expense, and I am only trying to get my money back that I spent. Below is copy of my receipt from Ticket Bastard.....$724.75 total. Please PM me if you are interested! Thanks in advance.....CaseyJanes Dead & Company Sat, Jun 30 @ 7:00 PM-Autzen Stadium - Eugene, OR Dead & Company Presale + 3D Collector Tix By Ticketmaster Verified Fan Sec GA3, (General Admission) USD $160.00 x 4 Fees USD $1.75 (Order Processing Fee) USD $19.00 (Service Fee) x 4 Ticket Delivery Standard Mail: Allow 10 to 14 days for delivery USD $7.00 USD $724.75 Edit: Sold 1 and so there are 3 left - $181.00 each face value and will sell singles
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Though I was not at these PNW shows, I've placed my order. Also, I ordered the t-shirt! I love the First Nations artwork on it. David, will we ever see an official release of Eugene 1990? Those were two awesome shows as well as Brent's last shows in the PNW. Thanks!
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Signed on here this morning hoping for an announcement and was not disappointed. Had my preorder in an hour before I got the email announcement. I was hoping for a boxset from '73, so this is about perfect, getting what I hoped for plus the shows from '74 as well, can't do much better than that. Plus the artwork looks excellent as well.
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You got me. Looking forward to this release. :)
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Thanks for the Amazon nod - pretty reasonable price too
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well....I think '73 and '74 will not be the other Dave's Picks. my box set fund of x-mas and b-day money still covered this spread. but im still pissed that someone stole 100 dollars in the mail from a card from a my mamaw as I found this mother's day when I visited her that day. hope you get caught and hope federal prison was worth it
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Vguy - I thought the same thing on the Thelma T and missed out. Not missing out this time! Psyched for two more HCS to add to the collection!
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Every time I start to waiver about automatically subscribing to DaPs or automatically buying the annual box set release Dave keeps pulling these rabbits out of his hat. Last time it was GSTL. This one is pretty much exactly what I was hoping for. Ordering was scary easy, like "Did that just happen?" easy. Personal note...I always kind of secretly wish shows I was at get an official release. I was at 5/23/73, 6/29/73, 6/30/73, 7/01/73, and 5/24/74. Missed it by that much.
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Never mind I found my missing fish, Eric's a slippery bastard.
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In case anyone from dead.net actually monitors these comments... As a long standing consumer of all things officially released (I even buy the things that I already had through alternative sources), I'm really torn between the very cool collateral that comes with the CD version, but really want the hi-def digital files. My 30 Trips USB Bolt was a nice compromise, but even at that, I got a different package than the CD version. Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't trade my Europe '72 suitcase for anything, but if the files are mastered at 192/24, how can I feel good about ripping the CD's at 44.1/16? I really wish there was a away for me to buy the real box, with all of it's coolness, AND get the hi def files without spending almost $400. Think about it dead.net. Please think about it.
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Between this and PHISH's Baker's Dozen box I was conflicted but this won out. Thank You Dave. This is a very good Box and the price is good. I love both bands but 500.00$ isn't worth that run and I loved it. Can't wait to celebrate this on my birthday. I cannot wait to hear that 45 minute Playing.
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No drama, no issues in the ordering process. Really looking forward to some high quality 73-74.
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Very cool concept and admirable patience from Team Dead! Thanks and nice job to DL and all involved. The advance listen sounds amazing.
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Sorry to see Nick Meriwether is authoring the booklet. I'd rather read an analysis of the music by someone like David Gans or Gary Lambert than more tenured professor liberal drivel from St. Nick. Och weel , the music's the thing anyway. Definitely looking forward to THAT.
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Same here, Kyle. I was blown away by the price of that Phish box. This one on the other hand... I say Fuck Yess!! Ive got the phish bakers dozen sbd's if anyone is ISO
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I can't come up with that scratch until Friday. It better not sell out. I really don't wanna pay scalper prices.
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I'm having a hell of a time deciding between the higher quality audio download and the actual box, but CD quality. I'm usually audio quality all the way so not sure why I'm hesitant with this (?).
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Downloads! Nice! I don't need, and I never look at all the stuff that comes in the box sets. Flacs all the way! Now all I need is more time in my life to give these amazing shows a proper listen(s).
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I buy the physical and then rip it on iTunes however I want. which is always ALAC, cuz FLAC is not universal, FLAC will not play on any apple products and wont even load on iTunes.
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I don’t know if I could tell the difference. Fully Normanized Plangents already sound amazing in 44.1/16. But if I could tell the difference......I would be in a quandary. Replace everything with 192/24, or don’t bother since every year my hearing degrades anyway? I’m going backwards anyway, starting buying vinyl.
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hahahahahahahahahaha $160. wowzers. and that doesn't include "service fee". all due respect to CJ. not you I'm mocking. it's the price. I remember (old man, look at my life, 24 and I fell on the floor) when $25 was considered high-priced for a GD ticket. LOVE THIS BOX SET. just gotta wait until September.
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Hey for you guys that have bought t-shirts from GDM do the sizes run a little small or a little big? I've never bought a shirt here but this one has me tempted. Thanks.
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I have audio files in AIFF, ALAC, FLAC, and AAC 320kbps.Separate HD’s for each format, with backups. Need to be prepared for all scenarios and situations. My car will play a USB flash drive but only in lossy, so I use the AAC files in the car. Would seem that it wouldn’t be that hard for a factory car stereo to play lossless, but apparently Honda thinks that using 10-year old stereo technology is acceptable.
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I can just picture Dave in the meeting with Rhino: "We have an idea for a 3 show '73 box in the Pacific Northwest, and a 3-show '74 box from the same cities, but we don't know which one to release.... they're both amazing..... (pregnant pause followed by silent smiles all around...) As for $160 D&C, I agree it's crazy, but the shows do not disappoint. Speaking of old, I saw a guy at Red Rocks '85 tell some folks he wanted $60 for his spare ticket, and he was suddenly surrounded by a small mob saying he was gauging: "How dare you!" I think he relented for $50, and he looked guilty as heck taking it as folks still shook their heads. Dead at Red Rocks $50!!!!!
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Problem with physical though is your limited to 44.1/16 no matter what you do to it. With 192/24, I can still put it on a CD at lossy quality at least and play the high res tracks on my nice home rig. Just not sure how much high res will benefit 73/74 recordings.
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That on the 6/22/73 show there was a very, very long Truckin.' In this official release it's 26:06 I knew that 5/21/74 had the one of the longest Playing In The Band at 47 minutes (46:59 here.) --- In the "How big is big?" department: Is this box in it's shipping container larger than the Complete Europe 72 suitcase in it's shipping container? Is this box bigger than the 30 Trips set in it's shipping container? I am 5' 6" and about 175 lbs. with a bit of a *bay window*/beer belly/pot belly. Is it bigger than myself? Or is it bigger than Phil Lesh? (the tallest of the boys)
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KBM - you can buy and download dBpoweramp for around $40.00 and rip CDs to whatever format you like, including hi-def. I have ripped all my GD HDCDs to that format and use a DAC to get the most out of the music. If you download this software (you will get a lifetime license) and need help, contact me via PM and I can walk you through it.
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One From the Vault was released in 1991, if you were trading tapes back then, and you could get 6 shows from 73 and 74 of the quality we are going to get!!! Thank you Dave..... bobt
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How do you make a white supremacist sweat?Give him a DNA test. WOKKA WOKKA!!!
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....what did bolo's Muppets clue have to do with this box set?
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I sure hope the fourth disc of the set, and last disc of Vancouver '73 has some hidden philler. I guess a 20+ minute Truckin' will make for some odd tracking....but still. Three short encore songs only?!?
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By my count that's: 5 China>Rider 4 PITB 3 Other One 3 HCS 3 Eyes of the World 2 Ship of Fools 2 WRS 1 Dark Star 1 Bird Song My counting skills my be off but at first glance this is truly a gift. We are such a lucky group.
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Muppet video - spoof of the movie “Se7en” - 7 is for the 70’s, bacon in the box meant post-Pig (you get bacon after the pig has expired). There had been early speculation that it might be a 68-69 box with Pigpen.________________________________________________________________ 6 2 Six over two, which means 6 shows over 2 years _______________________________________________________________ B, No. Fourteen No. Fourteen is the “B” side to the "hit" single “Seven and Seven Is” by Love First 7 is for the decade, second 7 is for the 2 years (3 + 4) ________________________________________________________________ Said Stoltzfus would like the box because he called for a Dark Star (6/24/73), plus he lives in the Seattle area, smack in the middle of the show venues. There might have been more, like a subtle Canada reference, but I'm old and don't remember. That is all.
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I'm listening to my copies of these shows; mostly matrix versions. The plangent-ized sbd two-tracks are going to sound two damn sights better than these (still-tasty) matrix recordings. These shows just shine. After Plangent, I'd suggest not looking directly at the box as its likely to shine so brightly as to cause damage to vision. Wish I had the scratch for this one. Mebbe I'll order it in a fit of delirium tremens before this box sells out!
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I, for one, will be happy for a Disc 4 with only 22 minutes. I appreciate the concert in order ... and I'm gonna rip it anyway. There will be plenty here to love.
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