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    Hey OB, not off to a good start here in MN, but actually not that surprised. Go Bills!

    There is an interesting article in Relix with Dave L. that was posted last week I believe. Check it out.
    Dave claims there is no list and they don't generally release shows or box sets based on anniversaries. This year's box was just a coincidence. So, what does that mean for 2024? Not sure. Would love to see that October 74 Winterland box released. Who wouldn't?
    I thought the 74 Winterland shows were recorded by Bill Wolf as part of the Movie production agreement with United Artists. I believe everything is there and based on the material from the 2005 soundtrack, and bonus material, it is fantastic.

    Madison Square Garden 87. Those are some good shows Jim. Might have to join you on 9/18 as I have that 30 Trips show handy.

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    Huge and another damn near perfect show with 3 Other Ones! The crowd seems more engaged and yelling a bit more than some of the more polite audiences. And interestingly they didn't understand that the show wasn't over at set break. Read attendee Bob Welle's review in DeadbaseX and his cool viewpoint of having been cruising around EU and just luckily caught this one, wondering who are these new people on stage.
    After all these good ones in a row it's hard to see the almost Barton Hall fervor over this one though. I'm having a tough time doing a top 5 of the first 11 shows they are all so good but this one is certainly in there. Onward indeedy! Didn't expect anyone to join in my insanity to do them all so good on ya' Oro. Had to do it once in a lifetime, lol.
    Cheers

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    I was talking about a mini box of Feb '74 before they released 2/24 (and now 2/23), but I like the way you think.

    I always assumed, probably incorrectly, that there were problems with the recordings of much of the October 74 run. I know Owsley was very vocal that they had excessive bleeding from mic to mic, etc.

    As for something to listen to today.. not that I am strictly a Today in GD History person but 9/18/70, 9/18/74 and 9/18/87 were all excellent shows. 9/16/87 was surprisingly good for the period also.

    That's all I have for now.

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    Hit 5/7, 5/10, and 5/11 this WE. Of course I’ve forgotten the finer points and things I wanted to say, but I’ve not wanted to be overly analytical, or get distracted with notes, and instead, just get right, relax, and try to enjoy them. (Which has not been hard ; )
    5/7 is just too much! It’s not always the most precise or perfect of the tour, but that’s because it’s a freight train on steroids!
    I’ve always preferred full steam ahead Dead even when that leads to more worts, not that this one has many, perhaps just a few more noticeable than some of the more reserved, precise (hey, they were trying to make an album) shows.
    Actually, I think the album factor is one reason this tour is so good. They’re in a place where they’re ontop of their game and can let it rip, but keeping it just enough under raps to keep the consistency high for recording purposes.
    Win win, but 5/7 seems more about the live gig, the large miserable crowd that seems to really appreciate the effort etc, more than playing it straight for the tape machine?
    Choo Choo, all aboard! what a beast! Garcia starts out in 5th gear and doesn’t let up for almost 4 hours!
    Dark Star AND an Other One! Full on grease fest with six beauties, including a nice LL that fits the format better than going on too long, and a nice unusual Segway into GDTRFB. Clearly they were enjoying themselves in spite of the conditions? They joke about blowing the big ones, but not this time bubba!
    I’ve had this one so have heard it several times, but it was a real treat to sit outside in a warm but not super hot day and just groove on this one!
    Yesterday I hit 5/10 for the first time and unfortunately didn’t get quite the best listen, at least to the later parts.
    But I did enjoy it, even if it was perhaps a little more laid back than 5/7 etc. Hey they all can’t be rocket ships lol.
    The word that kept coming to me was Smooth…this show seemed smooth. They’re gelling as a unit so well by now, and the consistency is so good. Sure there’s a miscue or clam every once in awhile, (I dare you to find a show that there isn’t ; ) but the overall tightness, energy, musicianship is truly better or on par with any tour they ever did!
    Of course there’s the sweet He’s Gone they finally got right, and why it’s the one! Another Sing me as they’ve worked that one in the repertoire nicely. And if I remember correctly, this had another of those unusual Other Ones, kinda jazzy perhaps and similar to 4/16? Unfortunately this one’s a blur for various reasons including hitting 5/11 afterwards. I’ll definitely want to rehit this, 5/3, and the Wembleys after the tour…but for now I want to go in order…
    Ok, 5/11, this one for whatever reason has always been perhaps my favorite?
    Not saying it’s the best show of the tour, just for whatever reasons perhaps my favorite?
    Certainly the set list is part of it: Nice Playing if not huge opener, plenty o grease, including a cool and final Caution, with final WHO Do You Love tease, Nice Truckin ender to mix it up, and a very cool, perhaps unusual Dark Star!
    Maybe it’s just because I think this might have been the first ala cart show I bought when I hand to the head realized what I was missing not having these Dark Stars? (Now realizing same about the cool spacey TOO’s)
    Other One can get real repetitive but these ones are often very diverse and different! The weirder the better I say!
    Whatever the reasons, this show, even after taking the tour plunge, still resonates very strong for me? Hey, I even think the cover art might be my fav? Ok, maybe I’ll hit it again streaming while working, before moving onto 5/13 and 5/16, both I’ve never heard yet, so hoping I’ll get to spend some extra time with em during the week…
    ONWARD! Ok, who stole my Heineken Dark?

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    That’s all I ment.
    Everyone’s made good points, and there’s no easy answer.
    I was going for a conversation starter more than just to editorialize.
    Like most things, no easy answers.
    It’s just now that I’m all addicted to this collecting nonsense, I need as many RJ shows as they’ll give us, and I’m afraid things are going to start slowing down, and eventually it won’t be worth it to them, and so many great shows will never get fixed up and released. And don’t you worry 1stshow ole buddy, there’s still plenty of RJ shows in the vault.
    As a rabid nut trying to tag as many of em as I can before I croak, I’m here to tell ya there’s plenty of gold left in them there hills! Yes many are cassette, but the gang has been getting better and better every year at fixing em up!
    And, there’s still lots of DATs and still a decent amount of killer multitracks, all just rotting in the vault!

    I totally get what yer saying, but think of it this way: suppose the summer 78 box was never released and only a couple others from that year. If they came out and said “this is your one chance to get the 20 best of 78”, including those shows in the July box, would you not find some way to get it? For sure, not everyone is going to want all of em, but I think you’d be able to scrape up at least 10k folks who would want at least one or 2?
    Really they should be digitizing them all, or at least the top 20 or 30 from each year that haven’t been released, and have a system where they announce a certain number, or block at a time, and do pre orders, to have inventory control.
    Some shows might sell big, some not so much. Perhaps have a rule that shows that don’t meet a certain threshold won’t get released?
    I guess the solution would involve somehow having a cost effective way to prep them, but pre order so you don’t always have to have such big sales numbers for every show? Perhaps DL like you say, but that hasn’t worked so well, so far anyway…
    Again, no easy answers, and I totally understand other pov. I just would hate to see so much good music not get the treatment it deserves. And yeah, the archive is awesome, but there’s nothing like getting a great show that’s been fully fixed/Normaned!

    Hey DV, where ya been hiding? Good to see ya, and sorry, I won’t mention you know who. It has got to be really tough being a fan. It’d be one thing if they just stunk, but they have potential, if only they could stop beating themselves.
    A well, it’s early still…

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    Would love to see more shows released. My preference is still CDs.
    It would be interesting to know what the terms of the contract are with Rhino? Are they able to release as much as they want or are there limits?
    Do they even have the ability to release more per year then they currently are? Is Jeffrey Norman able to mix and master much more than he is now. He might need help. Maybe you could assist OB?

    There are some shows they already mixed and mastered that could be released on CD. For example, the two shows from the first Road Trips that they released as digital downloads, 11/5 and 11/6 1979. Also, the shows from the download series.
    Would also be interested in more video. Why not release the shows from the MUATM. They did this with the 91 show in the Giants stadium box, but would love to see the others released at some point. The 91 Chicago show was really good.

    Okay, seems others are talking about 1988 for #48. We will see next month.

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    I'm a dinosaur as Oro describes it and know zero about streaming and how younger folks get their music, movies, and TV but I'm guessing the Dinos are the ones buying hard copy CDs. My question is, if the '80s and '90s scene was populated by more younger concertgoers in huge stadiums in numbers way beyond the earlier shows shouldn't there be a demand for those shows in a format they like? I'd bet lots of folks will buy a show they attended. Mickey's model may fit that some day. That said, I'm ignoring the fact that some earlier shows had attendance in the 100,000+ range (Englishtown?) but there were just a few of those. I know Dave said that the last increase to 25,000 copies per release would be the last increase and maybe that's the limit for profitability for hard copy. I'm guessing the download option would be more profitable regardless of sales numbers (if they could ever get the damn things to work!) as all you need is a bank of servers and a few tech savvy people to run it. Large box offerings could be done as a pick and choose your favorite with quantity discounts for more shows. I know I won't be buying twenty shows from individual years I don't like as much and there is likely some truth in the theory that a good portion of "the good stuff" has already been released. Seems like, as with many things, tech is going to have to save us in this dilemma. Affordability is key either way. I can't afford $500 boxes even if I like the offering. It's as simple as that. So Mickey, let's get digitizing! Us Dinos will just have to figure out how to download and stream.
    Cheers
    Oh, and the price of the downloads needs to come down. Currently makes no sense if the price is almost the same just without the shipping. No incentive to be green.

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    Y’all are missing the point…

    I’m not talking about preferences, if I was, I’d be down with Conekids idea.
    I’m talking about the reality of only a somewhat limited number of boxes getting released.
    Their not going to do this forever!!!
    For example, say they only releases 8 or 10 more years at one box a year.
    With 3 show mini boxes that’s only 30 more shows. Plus say 40 more Dave’s. (4x10).
    There’s still way more than 70 great shows in that vault…
    My plan,
    25 for primal 67-70
    15 for 71
    20 for 72
    20 for 73 (at least!
    ? 74 might just be mostly scraps
    20? for 76? Maybe
    77 is already over represented so he can spit the last few out on DaP
    20 for 78
    20 for 79 and 80
    20 for 81 & 82
    20 for 83 & 84
    20 for 85 & 86
    20 for 87 & 88
    20 for 89 including fall tour (alpine should be a stand alone
    90 not sure you’d need to do 20 as it’s already fairly represented?
    20 for 91 & 92
    20 for 93-95
    These plus DaP and special separates and one might say we’ve received most of the best!
    Take pre orders plus run an extra 10% so your not stuck with inventory but have a few for Johnny come latelies…
    You could still make them “limited”…
    Release 2 a year, everybody wins cept maybe the finicky heads who probably won’t buy much more anyway…

    Voila, all hardcore heads gets represented,

    And remember when Mickey made his bold pronouncement about making all shows available (about the same time he said Phil must have got the liver of a jerk) .
    But I’m sure things won’t change, sales eventually will make cost prohibitive and the vault will go to waste, but hey at least we will have most of 77…and four versions of October 74…
    Think about the cruel reality of only 3 to 5 shows a year for only 8 more years….the horror!
    Tic toc…

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    Yes, next year hopefully - vinyl too. Bit of leisure wear to listen to it in. Nice.

    Mini boxes score where you might not want 17 shows or whatever. I wouldn't mind a few shows from Europe 1990, having attended the London ones - but I'm not sure I would want the whole lot !

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    Winterland Oct 74 Box, and we need more releases Dave/Rhino

    Hopefully it’s moving into production soon so that we get it for the 50th anniversary next year.
    With all the video included.

    I’ll take mini-Boxes.
    3-show mini-Boxes, released once every other month, and not during a month where a DaP is released. Thus, the DaP’s and mini-Boxes would give us a release 10 months out of the year. The other 2 months would be RSD and Black Friday RSD.
    Sounds like a grate plan to me.

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Shoot, I don't have that one OB.

I know Jim is still without access to the archive.

You saw some great shows in some hot years.

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Is tomorrow ok?

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That was a rippin' full speed ahead show. Personally not familiar with fall '82 despite the Alpine '82 shows being foundational in my shows-attended timeline. Will say I never cared for Brent chiming in on Little Red Rooster but always thought that was a late-period thing but here it was in '82. Great Althea > Let it Grow to finish Set I. Pre-drumz Set II is a very much only that era "we've got some new songs and we want to play them" thing. With a driving Ship of Fools in there :) "Ashes to ashes" outro with Bob and Jerry on vocals. Post space awesome. Beautiful longer Wheel intro. Other One! Wharf Rat!! In the end Brent so fired up he's vocally comping a jam in JBG (IIRC). Cherry on top is a beautiful Baby Blue encore.

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7-17-89 anniversary.
I just started Down Hill From Here.

My second show……
(didn’t know I was supposed to go all 3 nights)

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Hey rockers!!!

Pick Of The Day: Roosevelt Stadium, July 18, 1972

Outdoors, Summer time, Grateful Dead. Sounds great. For all you weather history buffs, 78-90 degrees, light winds, no rain. Perfect weather for a mammoth Dead show!!

And mammoth it was, a three set stomper!

Solid 14 song first set, that saw the return of Bird Song---in a much more jammy form---after an absence of almost a year, a nice China Rider, cowboy songs, and other sundry rock-n-rollers.

Set two kicks in with a 14 minute gallop through Playing In The Band and features a Truckin’/Dark Star/Comes A Time that even Keithfan would approve of. In fact, I think Jerry was channeling his inner pterodactyl during that Star!!

The somewhat Jerrycentric third set features a very-new-at-the-time Half Step transitioning smoothly into a soulful Sing Me Back Home, followed by a typical 1972, lilting yet rocking Not Fade Away suite.

The Saturday Night encore is missing from the esteemed Mr Miller’s 2006 remaster.

Will it ever make Official Release? I have my doubts. The sound isn’t quite as crispy as some other 72s, and there’s a few audience patches. Even so, worth a listen…………..

Rock on,

Doc
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I’m going to open an Oberon after typing this.

Yes, all 3 nights of Alpine 89 on Blu-ray and CD.

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Holy crap, what a great second show (run). I wish I was there. I caught 87 and 88 but circumstances beyond my control prevented me from seeing 89 and by 90.. tail between my legs, I had to rejoin the human race. When I started working in 1990, people still wore suits and ties to work and they had just yanked cigarettes and ashtrays from offices. The Chainsmokers will still quite pissed off about that. Remember those days?

Oro.. what a divine pick 11/8/69 was. When I heard that one tossed out, I tried like hell to fit some fungal shenanigans into the mix, but I could not pull that one off this week. Holy cow what a great show. No wonder Dick held it in such high regards. My memories (I don't hit this one often) were a great show but the recording lacked. On this listen, I thought the recording sounded remarkably good. The first set was much better than what my grey matter tried to tell me, that jam towards then of Schoolgirl for instance, just kept on giving. Pigpen, 13 years of age? It's getting harder and harder to forgive you man, but we love you.

Easy Wind, .. the China Rider was great, especially for the era - they were dialed in and gave us a great, early transition jam. High Time, even the Good Lovin was great and that one is not always on my greatest jam vehicle list. It's got a Cumberland. But the goodies were in the last 90+ minutes of the show. The Dark Star sequence (Dark Star/The Other One/Dark Star/Uncle John's Band Jam/Dark Star/St. Stephen/The Eleven/Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks)/Feedback/And We Bid You Goodnight) is one for the ages. There must have been something in the water (or coffee pot).

In fact, this paired up with Alpine 89 are two very high water marks in my humble opinion and to have them come up in the same thread at the same time is powerful juju.

Wowwow stuff

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Enjoyed 7/18/72 Doc, great show. Agree the recording is not pristine but still good.

How about a pristine 72 recording. 7/21/72 from Seattle? I believe this was from the Download Series #10. Let me know if there is any interest in this one.

Keep that Oberon flowing Conekid, I don't think it will be around too much longer this summer.

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I was going to propose a 2 for Tuesday: 9/18/87 & 4/25/77 from Boxilla?
In fact, I already started 😇
Their both short…
But let me see if I have 7/21/72, I don’t think I have that one?

EDIT: nope, don’t have it. I’ll stream it mañana.

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9/18/87 check
4/25/77 check
7/21/72 check

Sorry Conekid, no Alpine. That’s probably good as I don’t want to watch that one too much, burn it out.

After the solid status quo 7/18/72 (though that DS was fine!), the magnificence of 11/8/69 (see Jim’s synopsis), and listening more to new jazz, lately, went big today!

I had heard the 87 Boxilla once I think, so it was nice to get reacquainted. Seemed to build as it progressed. With a fun GL>Bamba>GL, Bamba sung by JG in Espanol no less! Forgot how they made GL fresh again paring with Bamba etc.

4/25/77 I had not heard yet. Another that seemed to build with sweet Terrapin Playin etc. Not your usual 77 Playin?

Then back to 72 with a looonnnggg show! Can’t recall anything really jumping out one way or another, so yet another “status quo” show. Oh, cool attempt at what might be the first of WRS Prelude. DB lists 11/19, but this is at least an attempt lol. Summer 72 kinda uncharted for me, so nice to check some out. But next time I think it’ll have to be just one show lol.
ONWARD!

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DV,
the beer store I go to recently got a stack of 12-packs, 2 per cardboard tray, that were canned on 6/19. I bought 4 cases so far and am going to get more before it’s gone. Store it in my basement so it doesn’t get too warm. I’ll keep buying and maintaining the stash of 4-5 cases until it’s gone. I can usually make it to Oct/Nov until I have to switch to something else.

Man, OB, you really are an overachiever with getting in those three shows yesterday. The 87 30 Trips show is always a good one to listen to, it is fun. Audio quality is decent. The 77 30 Trips show is good but has never really struck me as great, but that is what makes this all so interesting. You never knew what you would get.
7/21/72 from the Download Series was one that surprised how good it was the first time I listened to it. Sound quality is really good and performance is outstanding. Sugaree, BTW, Cumberland to start. I like these early versions of Stella Blue. You get Bob with the first WRS prelude after Casey Jones that he stops a few minutes into it. Solid second set, He's Gone Truckin, big Other One. Great show.

I still wish they would release all these download series shows on CD as well as the RT Download shows from 11/5 and 11/6/79. They are already mastered and ready to go. Why not? More music.

Hey Conekid, sounds like you are well stocked for a while. You should try Bell's Octoberfest this year, another fine Bell's Beer they put out in August and September.

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to note that we just launched Grateful Dead on Discord for still more discussion and gathering, so come on down and join in: discord.gg/gratefuldead
Thanks and now back to the pick of the day...
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Hey rockers!!!

Pick of the day: Paramount Theater, Seattle July 21, 1972

LOL somebody beat me to the punch yesterday, but since I write these years in advance, here we are & here we go......

It was to be expected that there would be an energy dip after the white-hot brilliance of the Europe 72 tour……………

Here is a nice little show that one never hears about, most was officially released as part of the download series back in February of 2006. Has it really been that long????

OK, not classic by any stretch of the imagination, but it ain’t chopped liver either. If you were jonesing for some Dead, this would ease the pain. Plus, the official release included some choice filler from the following evening----Garcia channeling his inner Hank, Bobby going all jammy, plus nice versions of Bird Song, Morning Dew, Uncle John’s Band, and Saturday Night.

Lord, if it has to be mellow, let it be like this…………….

Love is a sacred reserve of energy; it is like the blood of spiritual evolution…..

Rock on,

Doc
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While we wait for other picks, I went with Maples Pavilion today, 2/9/73. Not a new show but there is a 2020 Miller out there and it sounds outstanding. Such a good show and you get the first Eyes!
Maybe Dave will release this one next year? Who knows, it would be great.
Get it out!

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Brent’s last.
Wow, 32 years ago.

I went to the 21st and 22nd (my 3rd and 4th) shows, but hadn’t bought a ticket for the 23rd because it was a Monday and I had to work. Of course, and I’ve told this story before, just like others had done before me I called in sick from a pay phone at a rest area. No way was I going to get home in time.

I have this show on DVD, think I will dig it out and give it a spin tonight and offer a beer toast to Brent.

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strikes me as a nice alignment between TDIGDH and POTDWD.

for some reason i've never really listened to this run, despite the fact that I grew up a Chicago (area) guy and the midwest and midwest shows are near and dear to my heart always. Plus the band was on in those days - saw 2 great shows less than a month earlier at Autzen.

maybe in part the sadness of Brent, and maybe in part that it's not Alpine which was the real "home' summer venue for us back in the 80s.

relatively new Healy/Pearson Ultramatrix. they closed Set I with a Trucking > Nobodys Jam > Smokestack??!! damn.

(yikes - it was 10th anniversary of Keith's death)

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They played 7-21-90 on Shakedown Stream, so we know they have the video.

7-18,19-90 got the DaP treatment, 7-21,22,23-90 should get the Box treatment.

Really enjoyed the 7/23 show. lots of goodness. really interesting Set I suite of songs. crushing terrapin. really fine mi-fu transition space > watchtower.

just cued up 7/21. missed the shakedown streams so new to me. Jerry bringing it on Jack-a Roe!

Just a Little Light is Brent's best song by far IMO

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I know, deep subject!

Sorry DV I skipped the 2/9/73 since I’d heard it not too long ago.
I know I’m in the minority, but I think there are other 73 shows I’d rather see out before that one.
It’s a good but sorta flows weird, yes the Eyes is perhaps one of the best first versions of perhaps any song,
Yes they do seven new songs, and again, I like it, just look at some of what else hasn’t been released from 73 yet. So it’s not that I don’t think this show is good, it’s just has really stiff competition, at least in mho.

Also didn’t hit the Brentskis this time, though I’ve seen the first and last and they were good. Hard to believe how soon he’d be gone : (

But I did hit: 7/25/82 and found it started feeling a little flat, but as is often the case built up nicely.
Not perhaps a top shelf 82, but still enjoyable.

12/12/92: being a 92 I didn’t expect too much, but this one really surprised me!
I actually listened to some of it twice. This I would call 92 top shelf, though I’ve not covered much ground there yet.
If ya like 92, you’ll want to check this one out! Hell check it out anyway!

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Hey no worries OB. Yes, 73, a year of riches with so much to offer. Maples remains high on my list and this relatively new Miller is A+.. Anyway, Tinley Park, I think Bob t was at these shows and makes an appearance in the video, pretty cool. I couldn't find a good version of 7/23 on the tube.
7/25/82, Tempe, AZ. I will have to check this out tomorrow.

I needed some 71 the other day and cracked out 11/15/71, RT3. 2. Looking forward to #43 maybe by the first week in August.

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Looks like HippieChick gotta new gig!
EDIT: Ooops. looks like Mary got rid of her lol.

Im sure DV Maples will see the light of day as you and pretty much everyone wants it, and yes that Miller did sound pretty dern good.
Though they usually don’t do anniversary stuff, you’d think they’d hit us up with a bunch of 73 next year: Box, Dave’s, perhaps a separate release and WOTF 50th…

Not sure if I’ll get hear anything today but will put it up if I do.

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Have this going now OB. I love shows that start with Half Step-Franklins, even with a few flubs from Jerry. Went with the Jim Vita audience and it sounds pretty good so far. Nice pick👍

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I suddenly had the urge to plunge into the PNW Box and listen to 5/17/74.
Listening to China > Rider right now. Top notch ‘74

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Played a couple of shows from it this month.

So, I bought a Cambridge Audio AXC35 CD player recently to go with my AXR100 receiver and WOW! A significant improvement in sound quality of my GD CD’s compared to my 10-year-old Onkyo 6-disc changer.
I like the 6-disc changer because you can load it up and press play, but the better sound quality is worth it to have to change CD’s (still not as bad as vinyl).

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Hey Dedhed68, yes, my baby gives me the finance blues, great show. Just hit this one not too long ago but great shows always deserve another listen.

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That China Rider from Vancouver contains one of my favorite moments from any GD show ever played. The sequence where the different parts come together at the conclusion of the jam between the two songs is beautiful and the crescendo at the end explodes as the two songs become one. I suspect when they finished this they all looked at each other for just a second and wondered to themselves, 'what did we just do and how the hell did we pull it off." It is the Grateful Dead at their very best. The one two days later in Portland is no slouch either.

wowwow stuff

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Ranks as one of the finer late era shows IMHO. Still looking for a board tape, but the AUD does suffice. Try it w/o looking at the set list before. Fun! :-)

P.S. A week before my first show...

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I was at 6-27,28-95 and they were a good time.
Also no SBD for those shows, last I checked. Not even a monitor mix.

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“…the weathers fine”

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The SOTM is no slouch either ('ol Jer nails it) Nice first set. Rain inspired 2nd set. Phil nailing Box of Rain. Thinking this might have been sweet as the '95 30 Trips representative. :-)

P.S. Buses are appropriate...but how about VW buses?

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Looking at 8/10/82, Iowa City for today. There are a couple of options, a audience transfer from Miller and a Healy SBD.
Let me know if this peaks anyone's interest.

Edit-I went with the Healy and it is sounding great so far.

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Not sure if I’ll get this in today as my current work situation has me somewhat tuneless : (
And we all know the situation is the boss!
No dead all week (“the horror”) so perhaps I’ll just listen on the device?
Little bit of somethin better than all of nothin!
Thanks guys for keeping the train on the tracks!

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Well DV I was able to MacGyver some shit together and thus was able to enjoy yet another solid show from 1982.
Perhaps a tad inconsistent here or there, but hey, that’s GD. Nice Stranger FOTD opening. (Sometimes those early Strangers are a tad strange). Sweet On the Road Again>BIODTL and great Cassidy! Energetic second set with full song list etc equals another example of why 82 could be for you!

But, forward, never straight, to perhaps some fine warm up for Dave’s 43, from 11/7/69.
I’ve never heard this one but if it’s half as good as it’s 11/8 neighbor it should be a delight.
All the big songs on a Miller SB, who’s with me!

EDIT: yep, 11/7/69 is muy bien! Totally teased…
Last 2 discs before bed from Rotterdam 72 ain’t too shabby either ; )

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Nice work on getting this one in OB. I agree this another great 82 show. There is something about these China Riders in 82 that really move it. As you said good first set, I really liked the Stagger Lee, Miracle, Bertha to close the first set. And want a second set. That China Rider to open, Lost Sailor, SOC, Eyes, great stuff. Cool Iko Iko out of drums/space into Truckin with a great finish and a two song encore. Definitely worth a listen for those that have not heard it.
Will get 11/7/69 going later today OB. Thanks. No #43 here yet.

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I squeezed this one in yesterday also. A nice little show indeed. The recording was pretty clean for the era, at higher volumes it did sound a little thin, the cassette master blues.. I like the setlists of some of these 82 shows also. Another new show for me.

Speaking of new shows, 11/7/69 fills another void.. off I go, should make a good ending to the weekend.

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No pick and no 43 in the PO Box : ( so palate cleanse with 6/20/92…

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Nice show. Sound quality was decent for 69. Thanks OB.

92, you say, okay, I will give it a go later. Just finishing 10/16/89. Haven't listened to this show in a while. Still delivers and a great release from something like 20 years ago. Need to listen to this one more often.

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11/7/69, phew, getting me itchin for 43!

10/16/89: I’ve always thought this was one of the best releases they put out but it seems to get no love?
Whatevs, to each the ur own. I love the song list, the audio, and the playing, all top shelf!
When o when will we get more fall 89 multitrack goodness?

6/20/92: another nice 92 surprise! Still think 6/8 and 6/22 are the ones to beat, but this tour is perhaps underrated!
Check it out, it’s a fun show. Sorry to plow ahead, just trying to get my fix in where/when I can since little to no tunes at work currently : (

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I always liked this release, and so you pulled me down the rabbit hole before I finished 11/7/69. First world problems.

Funny.. to me, there's two separate Playin' > UJB > Whatever Sammy's , pre-hiatus and post-hiatus. Like fraternal twins, I do not love one more than the other, there are similarities but are very different and wonderful in their own way. The pre-hiatus shows have the trippier, unpredictable on the edge of magic drive and the post hiatus often have a harder driving, freight train powerhouse feel.

This one starts with the famous Dark Star and weaves the entire second set into a PITB>UJB Sandwich. It is a little tighter and faster than many with some innovative midi. A really fun second set plus a tight first set (exception maybe Half Step?).

Anyway, I remember that laser disc effort So Far where they attempted UJB>PITB>Terrapin. They went for it and to me they just never got the spicy mustard, more of a warm mayo that was left out in the sun too long.. It was recorded in I think late '85 and they just were not on the same page. There are a bunch in 89 that achieved liftoff, this one is interesting. I was reading the reviews on the Archive and one poster commented they were "a band on a mission" that night. It might not be the best of the year, but I always thought was a solid effort.

Coincidentally, I grabbed a random waterproof ipod off the shelf for a day on the river this morning and hit play in the warmup rapids.. I never know what's on these devices, they have no screen so it's a great mystery. It picked up about halfway through the Morning Dew from 10/12/84 Augusta. After the song ended, I rewound and started the sequence over beginning with Don't Need Love>False Start PITB>Let's do UJB Instead>Drums>Space>PITB>UJB Reprise>Morning Dew. This one had the Spicy Mustard.

That's all I got.. as you were.

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I enjoyed this show and was surprised how much. I probably need to listen to more 92. Sound quality of the recording is A+ to my ears. Cold Rain and Snow, Wang Dang Doodle, FOTD and Maggie's Farm were highlights of the first set. Enjoyed the second set Corrina, Crazy Fingers Playing, UJB. Vince with Baba O'Reilly.
Thanks for the nudge to this show OB.
Still no #43 for me, however I received a shipping notice last night from this site.

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NOD is a happy show.

PITB -> UJB...check out 5/21/82.

92: I had cassettes of 2/24/92 which has a good setlist, but the cassettes are elsewhere now. C'est la vie.

6/20/92 has the great Space into CASEY JONES (HOOONK HOOONK!!!)

which they follow up with...Throwin' Stones. sigh.

6/28/92 is pretty good, as I recall from the cassettes.

Someday I'll mine the 92 seam of GD

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Hey rockers!

Pick Of The Day: Family Dog At The Great Highway, August 3 1969

Do I hear a violin? A saxophone? I think what I hear is loosely organized pandemonium……………or magic…………

If you’re a fan of deadweirdnesses, as I am, this one might be for you. The Hard To Handle opener doesn’t quite gel. On High Heeled Sneakers the band & guests channel their twisted stoner inner garage band. High Time and Mama Tried sound quasi-embyronic. The Dark Star is stand-alone, saxy, tasty, and for the time, not bad at all. What follows is a short Alligator, percussive interlude, a propulsive, saxy, violinesque Other One, and a very decent Caution (which gets very weird about half way through). The festivities are gently concluded with And We Bid You Goodnight……

Musically, for the Grateful Dead the Summer of 1969 was uneven, to say the least. Highs, lows, and everything in between. Miller’s remaster is actually pretty listenable. Dare to indulge!

Every weird thing about you is beautiful and makes life interesting.

Rock on,

Doc
The world is a crazy, beautiful, ugly complicated place, and it keeps moving on from crisis to strangeness to beauty to weirdness to tragedy…..

Hey, y'all. Where has the time gone!

I'll spare you my usual Joycean brevity today with just a couple of short remarks and a question.

Forensicdoceleven > That sounds right up my alley!

Oroborous > By chance, I've been listening to a lot of that Rotterdam '72 show lately too. Mega Dark Star, and just all around good stuff. Not sure why someone thought that the drum solo needed to be separated from Dark Star, though, and Dark Star split into two tracks. It sounds like Phil wants to play Bird Song toward the end, but gets denied. Then it seems like he's the one who first hints at Caution, and this time everyone agrees. Great stuff. There seem to be lots of teasing going on in various jams.

The 50th anniversary of Europe '72 has had me digging deeper into the Euro 72 tour. I've got One More Saturday Night on the brain! For some reason the Dusseldorf 4/24/72 rendition got me more excited than usual. Really tight, high energy, without going Hy Hy Hyyyy Hysterical.

I guess you guys mostly stream the SBDs, but does anyone who DLs AUDs have any recomendations for an ID Tag/Metadata editor?

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Good to hear from you Rockthing, it has been a while.

Any picks for today?

If nothing surfaces, I may have to pull up Dave's #8, 11/30/1980.

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DeadVikes > 11/30/80: Pretty sure I have not heard that, which makes it as good a choice as any.

I've never managed to snare any of the Dave's Picks and with inflation and ultra weak Yen the way it is, I'm less and less likely to have anything physical imported from halfway around the world.

I'm more than happy to have a dig through the Archive now that I've got a little time on my hands, but the closest I can come in 1980 with something in my actual collection is the Alaska Summer Solstice gig, which I listen to pretty regularly. Scratch that, I just discovered a 10/19/80 Stankiewicz data set that I've never unpacked.

I have 9/2/80 favorited for some reason, but I don't think I've actually listened to it. I mean, I've listend to Reckoning to death, but, perhaps, consequently have not sought out many of the shows from that run. Digging in to Europe 72 may change my mind on that matter.

I think this show is super well-known, but I'm a big fan of the 8/4/74... sorry, 8/6 Roosevelt Stadium gig. I have had a partial board on cassette from some sort of trade back in the day, but I think the Neil Merin audience reel is the way to go with a big outdoor Wall of Sound gig like that. Some of the conversations are pretty hilarious, but it also does a good job of showing how well the WoS cut through with clarity. Shnid 5914 fwiw... sbefail, but who's burning CDs?!

> RE: Family Dog At The Great Highway, August 3 1969

Thank you for that! That IS weird. They really were on the edge of adhesion, and quite frequently breaking free. The violin and sax timbres and harmonies really add something unusual, and completely foreign to the Dead's sound, but are amazingly on. They may be more on than Mickey! lol. The rhythm section really seems to come close to falling apart on a number of occasions when it's not "supposed" to be space or drums. It sounds like they're struggling to come to terms with the return to more trad material, having not yet figured out how to leave the all-out-madness approach of the progressive repertoire out of those numbers yet. Jerry croons on as if nothing is happening. lol. Fascinating listen, and one I hope to revisit soon. I just noticed that I have it on an old HD from my torrenting days, so that's gonna hafta get Metadata ID'ed up and on the ipod soon so I can get into it in the car. The Dead are the only thing that make a brutal commute "Bear"-able. As you say, brilliantly odd performance.

Rockthing - not being able to post happened to me last year for a bit. No reason why I couldn't, and no reason why I could again shortly after. So for you - just a blip, hopefully.