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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    9/20/74 cont.

    I can't get to it today BC. I quote have to unquote stick to official releases. The universe is currently pointing me towards 12/28/79 and I have it lined up. If anyone has anything else official I should call up, or another direction I can point I have a lot of time with the FLAC player today. Thanks.

    Stay Grateful all and :-) :-) :-) today. :-)

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    It seems like Bob's guitar drops out of the mix as the show goes on? Which is a fairly big problem. May be the case for next night also?

  • JimInMD
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    Cool.

    The DIB factory is just across the river from me.. Small world..

    Oh.. the Gauley's a classic. I guess you have a few rivers out West that compare.. but here in the East, there is nothing like it. The Beast of the East. A beautiful canyon.

  • bluecrow
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    listening now - WRS.

    they need to release complete shows of all '74. it's that simple.

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    Jon Dragan

    I met Jon in the early aughts out here in the west on an 8-day river trip I was guiding. previous life time stuff, so to speak. unusual trip to say the least, almost every "client" was big time rafting/whitewater. me? just a boatman on the mighty San Juan. somewhat early in my career. But yes, I knew that river pretty well by then. There was at least one other company owner from WV on the trip, plus the owner of DIB, Spouses also. One, maybe 2, family friends. One for sure was a doctor. Moki Mac, another company owner, decades in the business and a legend out of Moab, was also there as the only other "crew" besides myself. Mac was in fact a friend of several of those folks. this trip was not MM trip but WRX. All boats personal, except the one I rowed, even MM. It was late October, hardly anyone on the river and we encountered no one in the lower canyon over 5 days. That is total gold. By chance watched one of the first helicopter "deliveries" of desert bighorn sheep in the low.er.

    That first night Jon did something remarkably weird, comic, simple, and memorable.

    so - etched in memory in terms of at least 2 key details. it was dinner. I'm standing behind a cook/prep. table. a bit higher than what you would expect - the classic homemade tables/emergency backboards of WRX. Jon has dinner before him. He's got a crazy funny grin. He is holding a miniature pepper mill. 1-1/2" high? it's suspended from a chain around his neck. it's a "charm". Only its functional. If I had to guess it held one, maybe two pepper corns. And he slowly turns the handle all the while smiling at me. honest to god, I am wondering what am I looking at. and at this juncture almost 20 years later I can only smile and laugh. I don't think i dreamt this.

    at the end of the trip I showed Jon a couple of pieces of cast silver I had done in a workshop. one was based on a bear pictograph my sweetheart and I had come across previous year - despite everything I think that site is still not on the radar. still proud of that piece, cast in cuttlefish, so ripples along the body. balance and aesthetic is spot on for me. Jon asked me if he could buy it for his wife. I wasn't ready for that - told him can't do it now but maybe down the line. Let's stay in touch. in the end a missed opportunity of connection.

    I still remember standing in the company office a year or so later and being told that he had passed away suddenly. He was 62. Legend.

    Truthfully the Gauley may well be on a hypothetical bucket list based simply on that.

    my apologies for a non-Dead post on this thread.

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    That must be Joe Smith. I enjoy his modern day interviews and comments. I am not sure the boys were fond of him back in the day, but Jerry gave an amicable interview towards the end. In Anthem to Beauty, someone dug out the letter from him to the band that they "graded." I think they gave it an "F" for "F*** Y**"

    Whiz also gave a great account of recording that show in Anthem to Beauty. No one was in the truck when Morning Dew was played and the recording came out flawless. Those were the days....

    I'm sure you all knew all this, but just in case.. ah, the end of one of the truly great tours from any band at any time.

    Up late last night, well just because.. up early this morning because it's my curse. Got water heating and some freshly roasted to see me through what will surely be a great morning. Everyday should be a holiday weekend.

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    Definitely agree with Jim, WTJ and others on this show.
    Let me take it a step further.
    Obviously part of it was released with the original E72 release and I bought a copy of the CD release in I believe 85. Still have it .
    Didn't get the box when it came out in 2011, seems crazy now, but that is the way it goes. Passed on the individual shows that sat on Dead. Net for years. Still can't believe that one. But my daughter was very young and money was tight.
    Anyway, I believe my first two individual shows I purchased on the secondary market was this show and 4/26.
    I was able to listen to the whole show tonight, basically uninterrupted.
    The goose bumps are still there. Definitely a top five show in my book. The Truckin, Other Ones, Dew, Other One, Sing Me Back Home still might be the best music I have ever heard.
    The sound quality still to this day amazes me how good it is.
    We have to be thankful for the Warmer Bros executive, I forget his name and the unbelievable effort of the Wiz, Bob Matthews, Betty Cantor and others for recording this tour. This one is for you all.
    Enjoy the weekend all!

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    I've heard of him, his name used to pop up.. he's a bit before my time and a bit South (Gauley River WV, etc.). The Gauley's a classic run and a bit of a beast. It's gods country down there, stunningly beautiful, really awe inspiring. Even the drive there is breathtaking. I'm about 2 1/2 hours North but occasionally make my way South, made it last fall and hope to make it at least once this year.

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    I am lurking about.

    Bolo's recent loss sparked me to reply on the recent loss of my father. 92 yrs. old and he was ready to go. And he did.

    He's gone.....

    Heading out to see Joe Russo's Almost Dead in Vail (2 nights) and then at Red Rocks for a night. Celebrating my wife's successful cancer treatment 5 years ago and our 42nd wedding anniversary in August by heading up to altitude and enjoying some music.

    If you haven't availed yourself to JRAD yet, but enjoy the Dead's 68-69 breakneck pace, turn on a dime, deep jamming, combined with the Grateful Dead's entire song catalog, they are highly recommended by this writer.
    Check them out. I find them significantly more edifying than any other dead-centric offerings I have seen (yes I have seen Dead & Co multiple times) as they play with inventiveness and pace of that early Dead.

    Thanks for the shout out, hope to post more soon, retirement is rapidly approaching and will provide me with extra time to connect, reminisce, and spin tales of our favorite aural adventures.

    Take care

    Tim

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    in the same breath?

    holy mother of god.

    i'm in deep now

    so every show in that fall Europe '74 tour is pretty/really freaking good! I've rec'd an Usbourne matrix of the completely off the radar show from that tour in Munich from 9/14. listen for Tommy (IIRC) played over the system in a between sets on an audience splice. Yeah a history note.

    And now yet again I'm "in" Set II for 5/25 Seattle. I really dug this run but hadn't even thought about it recently until ProudFoot mentioned night 3 and, among other things, I realized it it lined up with the last 3 nights of Lyceum '72.

    Most of my deep listening nowadays is headphone and that's what I rec here. And don't forget the bonus GDHour source for Want To Tell > Estimated from the night before.

    Jim - given all your whitewater and kayak time, did you ever know Jon Dragan back in the day?

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Did you know that the city of Albuquerque, NM hosts the world's largest gathering of hot-air balloons, every October at a venue referred to as Balloon Fiesta Park?

Far out huh?

From the looks of wikipedia, there's tons of other cool facts about Albuquerque as well.

Here's one I didn't see listed,
The GD played the civic auditorium there on November 17, 1971.
A recording of that show would be released as part of the Dave's Picks series in 2018 with bonus material from December 14, 1971. Lucky subscriber's to the Dave's Picks series received a bonus disc with more music from December 14, 1971 and if you put the bonus material together it represents the full show minus Ramble On Rose which opened Set 2.

Well how about that?!?!

Maybe 1971 is in the air like a giant balloon.
Or maybe it's just the Celestial Season happening as Saturn & Jupiter line up.

Just thought I'd share :)

VGuy72 - You guessed my clue!

Feel free to request a calendar from Dead.net
But they'll say.. what are you talking about!?!?!

Not sure if it's the official pick but it looked good to me and it sounds good too. So I'd say it's worth visiting.

BTW - Love the fam avatar!

EDIT: If you do check it out listen for the "Satisfaction" riff after Run Run Rudolph. A 1971 Satisfaction would've been so TIGHT!

Jimi - Not much ’88 has happened here.
1988-07-17 - On 7/1/20 you mentioned the ’88 Greeks and I think we listened to this show. But there was also an '85 show happening. Cool KPFA broadcast gives the full meal deal on this one.
1988-03-27 - On 6/30/20

(However, you may never see this cause I'm editing my old post. So.. we'll learn something here :)

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It was so cold in New Mexico this morning it was even chili in Hatch.

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Would love to see some variety Jim, I have been trying.

What are you thinking?

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I was thinking another of the 88 Greeks??

Hey.. weren't we just talking about Horns tour? I think Oroborous pulled some strings and got us Dave's Picks 38. I have to say, I liked the next night more, but perhaps Latvala knew better.

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Yeah, I told DL that you all were interested in that tour and he said.. No Problem!

Psyche, never happened, but pretty stoked to get some September '73 this year.

Now... what's next?!?!? :)

I'm a Fiend!

I couldn't resist the call of the '71 today, I know there's been a big early '70s deluge recently. And... I could do that pretty much everyday until I couldn't.

However, yeah switch it up.
I love 12/14/90 Dark Star!
Or '88 is great.

And 12/14/71 is worth a listen if not today then soon.

Alright, good stuff.
Happy Announcement day.
I was looking forward to hearing what's next and hot dog it's from the early '70s :)
Get the subscription people!

Sure, always welcome. Let us know which show for tomorrow.

#38, back to 73. Sounds great. Another banner year shaping up for 2021. I had the year, but not the month or the show. Kezar will have to wait.

And now we can move on to the 2021 box set. So many possibilities.....

Stay well folks.

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That second set is stunning.. thanks for the pick.

Didn't we do one of the 88 Greeks already? I think yes, but not sure. The first is probably my favorite, which makes me think we already did it. How about the last, 7/17/88. If we did this one, then lets do the first.

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Jimi - Not much ’88 has happened here.
You mentioned the ’88 Greeks on 7/1/20 and I think we listened to this show. But there was also an '85 show happening that day.

Cool KPFA broadcast gives the full meal deal on this one.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qYmsTfhDMZc What a show, Garcia's first show back was a very special night. He looked like he was having so much fun . When he sang " I will survive" during Touch of Grey, I thought the roof of the Oakland Coliseum would blow right off, very emotional moment. During Candyman, when he sang " hand me my old guitar", the place just explodes. A very special night for sure, I'm glad I was there. A birthday I'll never forget.

I remember the word coming back from those shows, the Candyman was back in town.

I bet being there that night was a highlight.

Happy Birthday!

Listen to the roar, that's the stuff.

Thanks for sharing that, first tune of the day :)

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I will get this show going soon.

Summer 1988 was a hot time for us in MN and WI. Seems like a 100 years ago.

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GOGD, thanks for the birthday wishes. Jim, I didn't go to the 88 Greek shows they were all on KPFA, so I stayed home and taped all of them, along with bbq. and beer drinking, the Dead shows made for 3 days of great times.

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and a very happy birthday. Have an Imperial Stout on me.

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.....nice setlist.
Music Never Stopped->
Sugaree
Little Red Rooster
Loser
Memphis Blues
Far From Me
Bird Song
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China Cat Sunflower->
I Know You Rider
LL Rain
Terrapin Station->
Drumz->
Space->
I Will Take You Home->
The Other One->
Stella Blue->
Around & Around->
One More Saturday Night
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Knockin' On Heaven's Door
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Stumbled across this btw. https://fansignstime.com/grateful-dead-skull-neon-like-led-sign?93=17&1…

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Not sure where to post this .... but I mistakenly ordered two subscriptions this year, and rather than put them on eBay and make a profit, my Holiday cheer good Karma mood is causing me to list the pair, still sealed ( 2122 and 6407/22000 respectively) at cost plus shipping. So depending where you are figure about 65-70 bucks for the pair. PM me your interest. My only request (which will be honor system only of course) is that you don't flip them on eBay.
Mark. PM me if interested and I can likely still get to you to get under the tree

I caught the 87 Greeks (a personal high), the tapes are not noteworthy but the shows were great. I had wonderful tapes of the 88 Greeks I scored pretty much after the dust settled. Once Dicks Picks became thing in I think '93, I still had this legacy killer Alpine system in my truck with no back seat and the acoustics were pretty damned good.. it rocked and it was a cassette only vehicle so I still listened to cassettes for a while. ..really until I discovered Archive.org at about the same time as my alpine system got stolen for the very last time and I bought a new truck with a CD player. So that's my history with this run. I had every set on cassette and have fond memories but no recent listens.

Plus it's not an anniversary show so there's that. The middle night was my least favorite, but much loved nonetheless. The Memphis Blues is on Postcards of the Hanging and I have this suspicion it might have been recorded multi-track.

anyway.. back to regularly scheduled drums/space and anniversary shows. I would like to see this whole run get released, each of the three shows is noteworthy in my humble opinion.

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Billy the kid-Happy birthday for yesterday-I seem to have missed that one. You are three months ahead of me.

December always puts me in mind of 1971-some great shows in that month. Some released, some unreleased some in between. I am half way through 12/5-great lone outing for "I Washed My Hands" . Quite topical, now I come to think of it.

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VGuy - That's too funny. I started listening to that this morning.

Good stuff!

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Ha ha! I too fired this one up. Wow its like that cosmic mind experiment from the Capital Theater '71.

I put down some thoughts in the 2021 subscriptions thread about the 9-7 partial release too.

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....perhaps i should stop at a casino on the way home from work and throw a twenty in a Megabucks machine.

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I listened to 12/15/72 Long Beach last night. Awesome. Upon further research I read that the 12/11/72 Winterland show took place at the same time and date as the first of three EVAs (moon walks) of Apollo 17 astronauts that started at 4:54 p.m. P.S.T. and lasted 7 hours, 53 minutes and 11 seconds. So the complete Winterland show happened while the two last humans to walk on the moon did their work. Maybe that’s why they played Dark Star that night. Dark Star was also played on 12/15/72 in Long Beach while Apollo 17 was returning from the moon.
Possible recommendation for December 23, 12/23/70 Winterland.
If I had a 50 for all the 50th anniversaries I’ve been observing in recent years I’d have shoe box full of Ben Franklin’s.
Saturn and Jupiter are looking amazing. Last evening they lined up with the new crescent moon.

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Cool, I will check it out. Thanks.

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1. According to a few comments on this show's archive page this was the first show Jerry was playing the wolf.
2. First ever Let it Grow?
3. Check out Bobby's flanger pedal work on HCS

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I’ll have to check out 9/7/73. I only saw the Dead at Nassau one run, two nights in a row in March 73, right after Pigpen died.
After theaters and Veneta , Nassau was kinda like being in a full Nelson.

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Morning

Alright, so after listening to most of 9/7 yesterday and based on what we've been told by DL, here's my thoughts on what we're getting and why.
Lay it on me...

Bird Song & Playing In The Band as Bonus Material on DaP V38 per DL

Bonus Disc - Almost 80 minutes - (Might look like this)
Here Comes Sunshine
Let It Grow >
Stella
Truckin' >
Drums >
The Other One Jam >
Eyes >
Sugar Magnolia

That's close to 77 minutes of good stuff.
There's a reel flip in Truckin', about a 2 plus minute patch, they'll probably use the Jerry Moore Audience for. It appears to be on Master Reel. Taper's Section has it as well as circulating SBD.

My assumption on why this show doesn't get the full meal deal treatment is possibly due to the number of clipped beginnings to songs on the master reel. El Paso, LLR, Loser all have clipped beginnings.
So yeah, that's what I think will happen with that.

We're getting the Meat & Potatoes here folks! And it's the first show featuring Jerry playing Wolf.

Far Out, I'm stoked.

If we get the HCS from 9/7 the release with the Bonus will contain 6 of the 7 songs released on WOTF on the first two shows after the albums completion.

Good stuff for sure. Thanks DL & Team!

Now.. what's happening at 9am PST today with Dave & Gary?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmMjY6tXaEo&feature=youtu.be

Could it be more WOTF news? Exciting :)

....picked Rich Stadium 6.6.92 randomly. I've never heard it. Just gotta poke around.
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1992/06/06
Touch Of Grey ->
Greatest Story Ever Told
Althea
All Over Now
Friend Of The Devil
Masterpiece
Ramble On Rose
Let It Grow
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Aiko Aiko ->
Estimated Prophet
Same Thing ->
He's Gone ->
Drumz ->
Space ->
The Other One ->
The Wheel ->
Throwing Stones ->
One More Sat Night
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Baba O'Reilly->
Tomorrow Never Knows

We're on the same wavelength again... I was just checking out 12/17/92, man that show is good!

I heard an interesting interview with Vince from 6/19/92 yesterday and it made me want to check out summer '92.

Nice!

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....I love the set list GOGD.

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We didn’t get a new release announcement.
Better luck next time.....

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What was it? Just the Merry Christmas stream?

Edit: Oh and the Ripple Video. Agree with the others.. meh. How about a one disc wonder stocking stuffer from an incomplete show half of the master reels sunk in the Titanic. Now that would be worthy of reeving up the Shakedown Stream engine...

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I have been in and out around these parts since school started up. This virtual teaching stuff is WAY more work than I thought it would be, and much more work than regular teaching. What might take me 20 minutes to prepare for the classroom is taking me an hour, what usually would take me an hour can take me up to three - and let's not even get into trying to tackle grading student essays...

Anyway, I am not sure if this is ground that has been covered, but I would like to suggest 12/16/78 Nashville for today. I am usually not a big fan of 78, but I will keep on trying, as I know there are some killer shows (or parts of shows) to be had. Anyway, this one was suggested to me, so I thought I'd give it whirl! Opens with a nice long Sugaree that sounds damn good to these ears. Here is a link to a Miller AUD that sounds pretty nice. I believe this is the best sounding copy available, and after a brief touch of warble in the very beginning, it really does settle down into a nice mix:

https://archive.org/details/gd1978-12-16.sonyecm250-no-dolby.walker-sco…

Also, I feel like I am in the minority here, but I really liked that Ripple video. I thought the animation was beautiful, and liked all the little Easter eggs hidden throughout.

Happy Friday, DeadLand!

Peace

Good to hear from you O and thanks for all your hard work with the kids! I mean it, I'm so impressed with teachers during this trying year and all the extra time and effort they have had to put in. So raising a glass to you my friend! (coffee cup, but same sentiment).

I'll check out the 12/17/78 show again, it's got a From The Heart Of Me ;)
It looks like there's a SBD with Aud patches as well as an Audience recording by the one and only Joani Walker (thanks Joani for all the tapes!!!!). And there's a post radio show interview with Joani & ACE Bob Weir.

But first.. I've got a date with a Dark Star from 12/18/73. Still on the road with Bob T in the 1973 time machine. 2 more shows to go and they could be legendary in the future!

Good Stuff.

PS EDIT - VGUY what'd you think of 6/6/92? Dug the first set. Best Take a Step Back in the 1990s? Also enjoyed weird Spanish Jam & TOO blender bender. I kinda fell asleep during set 2 (not knocking it, i just took a nap) so I might have to listen to it again, but yeah. Interesting time Summer '92. I'd just heard an interview with David Lemieux talking about the stage chemistry he witnessed on Spring '92 tour and that he wasn't surprised when Bruce split. Add the Vince interview from 6/19/92 and it gives an interesting view into the band at this stage of the game. Fascinating. BTW Dark Star out of Space on 6/8/92 is worth visiting!

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Thanks for the kind words!

Just for clarification, I am listening to 12/16/78 Nashville - 12/17 is Fox Theater - though they both have "From the Heart of Me." The Bobby interview is at the end of the Fox theater show too. This Nashville show is nice! It seems I prefer fall/winter 78 to winter/spring 78...

After this, I might just join you and Bob for a little palaver in Tampa 73 :)

Peace

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Good to hear from you Otis. Yes, this year has been a huge challenge for sure. My 11 year old daughter in middle school is having the virtual learning blues. Not too much fun looking at your Chromebook all day in Google Meets. Just hoping to survive this crap and see better days on the other side.

Anyway, thanks for the 78 pick. I will check it out. Last weekend I pulled out From Egypt with Love. There is some really good music on that release from October 78 at Winterland. And the bonus disc with If I had the world to give, is really good, love this version.

Stay well out there.

Haven't heard from Bob t for a while? And of course Bolo.

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Roger 12/16/78 not 12/17. Funny I mixed up the dates of 12/17/92 & 12/16/92 yesterday. I meant to say 12/16/92 is really good, but said 12/17.

Trippy!

Good stuff.

BTW - 12/18/73 is sounding good. Check out that GSET! Some epic Phil Bombs.
Getting ready for some WRS > Dark Star > Eyes this afternoon.
Might have to wait until 4:20ish
Happy Friday All!