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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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  • 1stshow70878
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    With news from the front lines.
    Blaspheme warning: This may contain heresy.
    OK, I get why the consensus is that 4-8 is better than 4-7 but....
    I like 4-7-72 better. The 4-8 from Dark Star on is amazing and unique but it is more primal. And while I dig Phil's insistent bass groove in the Caution, I mean he's leading the band at that point, but the DS gets a little disjointed at times. And there are better versions of Pig's songs coming later in the tour as well even if that Mojo is darn good. Now Jerry on pedal steel is more my cup-o-tea and even Phil singing a duet with Bob on that LLRain can't spoil that (truth be told he does a good job of it). And of course the MLB jam is great and they had a few notes leaning that way in 4-7 but never got there. But.... I was floored by the 4-7 second set altogether. It just builds and builds and, as I previously said, the Sugar Mag>NFA>GDTRFB>NFA closing just hit me right. Jerry en fuego! And every first set song was done to perfection so it's close but 4-7 edges out 4-8 for me.
    So onward to Newcastle! Storm the battlement! And thanks for the support. Cleansing with classical this AM.
    Cheers

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    Sorry Dennis, er I mean Jim ; )

    Maybe Dennis will let you borrow his wife’s CC lol
    Or hey, since yer working too damn much, you should have some extra bread left over, even after the cost of your expanding empire ; ) Pretty soon they’ll be calling it Jimsville! Which is nice….

    I went with the 12/26 goodness from DaP 43, and then the Stepping out segment from 4/8/72.
    Chefs kiss fo sho!

    Bob being his usual youthful self, ready to yell out in front of a crowd of young Christian types about last I saw Phil he was going to the dressing room with some chick lol. You can see why eventually they needed McNally…

    Now time to hang it up, and see what tomorrow, oh, wait, that’s today? ,,,oh oh, where does the time go!
    Gonna need another RJ caliber shooo…
    ONWARD,

    EDIT: wonder where 1stshow is, he should of left England by now…hopefully no situations at the border?

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    So now I have to get another book before I delve into E72. Just great...

    If you google Blogspot Europe 72, the first listing is a reprint of the old Europe 72 Notebook that has been floating around on archive dot org for a dozen years or so, except it is in the correct order and mildly edited. Most importantly, it looks like they added many pictures of each venue. It really gives you a better feel for what it must have been like to be there. ...and man, there are some historic venues on that tour. For me, it would be worth it the next time I am in Europe to visit one, three or all of the venues (assuming they all still exist), just for kicks and giggles.

    The GD did all kinds of things wrong in their tenure, but this tour was not one of them.

    mmm.... The Other One is working this WE, hitting something epic and it sounds like officially released? oh the pressure.. If you're going to warm up the tube amps.. goodness.. the DS>MD from DP19 (hey, it's 73), DP16, DP4, 2/14/68, Feb and March 69, 4x/5x 72 or go for one of the other multi-tracks, any of the From the Vault, the WD or AB 50th's. The picking is the easy part, keeping the plaster on the ceiling, not so much.

    I'm also a big fan of 85 for the same reasons mentioned. Also, taking the risk of introducing all those new songs. It was like they were climbing out of a rut and freshening up the place with vibrant and loud electricity.

    For the second time this year, JimInMD isn't working. I have no idea why... Why do you mock me so oh dead net website?

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    More than one way to skin a rabbit lol
    My way is hard, but I find it worth it, though perhaps why I haven’t done this whole tour, YET.
    In fact, I’m not sure I’ve even heard every show yet? All the Dark Stars to be sure, but not all The Other Ones.
    Yuck, yuck, see what I did there ; )
    I have this book staring at me I’ve not read yet as I’m probably saving it and the remaining shows for when/if I do take the Pepsi challenge…it’s called Europe 72 Revisited by Howard F Weiner. (Think I have one by him on Cornell too?)
    But after just randomly glancing it mentions the first England shows we’re supposed to be 4 at the Rainbow, but the place went outta business right before the tour so ole Cutler had to punt and go with 2 biggins at Wembley. He then starts to mention how good 4/7 is and how he, like many, perhaps overlooked it due to the greatness of 4/8 etc…
    Hmmmm, sounds familiar lol
    ONWARD! You go 1stshow, man if I knew I had the time I’d be tempted…

    I just hit 11/20/73: never heard more than the RT taste. Another looonnngggg but fine 73!
    Think I’m down to just a handful of 73s I’ve not heard!
    Hmmmm, what now?? The Other One is working this WE so I should probably pick something official top shelf and warm up the ole transistors : )

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    There's clearly no right or wrong way in how we listen to all these shows. For me, with E72, I have started to think of them in terms of the few shows in one country, and listen to them before moving on towards something else. For example, the first three shows in England stand as a whole for me. So I listen to them one after the other - then take a break. Then go on to Denmark and do the same thing. The first three shows are so good I defy anyone to just listen to just one of them without listening to the next. But I don't want to over do it, so a break comes in handy - then the next one sounds fresh and will blow my socks off like the first one does.

    Oro - I think you listen more deeply than I do!

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    Other Music DR…

    …just not Dead. But hey, that’s just my methodology.
    If I start listening to other Dead, I lose my hyper focus of the tour and all the little things, the nuances. I need to marinate in the shit lol
    It’s like sometimes you switch to a different kind of beer midstream, one you know you really like, but because of the style of the one you were drinking is so different, the new one doesn't taste right. It’s your taster is off…
    Best example is in 2021 when I did all of 1971 in order, listening to Phil figuring out his line in PITB. Every one was a bit different until he had what he wanted. If I was listening to other dead I might have missed that…
    It’s hard to go a whole tour and not switch it up, but I think it’s the best way to do it!
    Now a little Jazz or something else now and again,sure, but no other Dead!
    But again, that’s just me…
    I did hit the 4/7 stuff from Steeping out. The energy is like a fright train. You can tell they were itching to play!
    But I think their holding the stick a little too tight because of that. I can hear JG saying something like “we have the whole Europe scene watching us so we can’t Fuck up…no pressure or anything lol”
    So to me sometimes it’s a bit off the rails. But I like em when their going beyound the comfort zone, that’s why I like 85 so much. Sure occasionally there is an accident, but that’s ok when yer riding the edge!
    The amazing part is, as good as this one is, it’s kinda just a warm up and indicator of what’s ahead!
    Just amazing they could play that consistently at that level for 2 months straight AND get into all the shenanigans!

    And yaassss, ole Jimmy Bufet, may the Caribbean winds blow him safely home to the big Cheese Burger in Paradise!
    A son of a son of a son of a son of a son of a son of a sailor! Now you and Hunter behave now ; )
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    I won't try to do reviews on every one but maybe in groups of a few at a time.
    DR was spot on. 4-7-72 gave me a new perspective of that year. It was:
    - Polished, energetic, and played with stamina.
    - Darn near perfect, as if trying to impress.
    - Had a religious experience moment for me in GDTRFB where I kept saying Jerry is a monster by '72, and how does he do that. Just keeps coming up with a new riff every few seconds. Unbelievable. Rivals anything I can think of from any era.
    Cheers

    RIP Jimmy, always liked him even if he didn't get played at my house as the wife didn't care for him.

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    has passed. Used to see him regularly in Florida, every year for many years. A great excuse to get out there and have a little fun and get a great buzz. Been a while since I saw him, he got real busy there after a while and wasn't around the local bars that he used to frequent back in the day. Many a time down in the keys he would be there and he would discuss those "square groupers" that had been seen floating around back then. After one peeled off the outer layer that most were wrapped in what was inside was usually "gold". I remember a great show back in 1980, Jimmy opened for the Eagles and he had a broken leg. Of course he did "Margaritaville" and had changed some of the lyrics to include his mishap. Blew out my flip-flop, stepped on a pop top, broke my leg had to crawl on back home, man I'm in real pain, wish I had some cocaine, but that's been gone since early this morn. a gifted wordsmith for sure. RIP Jimmy, may those Jamaican winds blow you safely home.

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    I would have thought that was essential if your going through a box the size of E72. You don't want to put yourself off it. Obviously very different following a tour at home than it would have been in the flesh. But even if you had been following this tour in real time, as it happened, you would have heard other music in between shows. Unless you're a monk.

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    Another synchronicity there, Oro. Was just over in Maine with old friends, one of whom I had not seen in many years, he was on stage security that night at the racetrack fairgrounds and helped us get down front for the zenith of my too small handful of Dead shows. He reminded me that Roy B was feeling no pain but still played Nancy like no one else ever could, Levon and the Cate Bros, what a show. End of summer, end of tour, just could not have been better. Many recordings but apparently no clear SBD, otherwise mandatory for release. That friend had been searching for the lyrics for Jaime Brockett's Legend of the Titanic, pleased to locate for him.

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Did you know that the city of Albuquerque, NM hosts the world's largest gathering of hot-air balloons, every October at a venue referred to as Balloon Fiesta Park?

Far out huh?

From the looks of wikipedia, there's tons of other cool facts about Albuquerque as well.

Here's one I didn't see listed,
The GD played the civic auditorium there on November 17, 1971.
A recording of that show would be released as part of the Dave's Picks series in 2018 with bonus material from December 14, 1971. Lucky subscriber's to the Dave's Picks series received a bonus disc with more music from December 14, 1971 and if you put the bonus material together it represents the full show minus Ramble On Rose which opened Set 2.

Well how about that?!?!

Maybe 1971 is in the air like a giant balloon.
Or maybe it's just the Celestial Season happening as Saturn & Jupiter line up.

Just thought I'd share :)

VGuy72 - You guessed my clue!

Feel free to request a calendar from Dead.net
But they'll say.. what are you talking about!?!?!

Not sure if it's the official pick but it looked good to me and it sounds good too. So I'd say it's worth visiting.

BTW - Love the fam avatar!

EDIT: If you do check it out listen for the "Satisfaction" riff after Run Run Rudolph. A 1971 Satisfaction would've been so TIGHT!

Jimi - Not much ’88 has happened here.
1988-07-17 - On 7/1/20 you mentioned the ’88 Greeks and I think we listened to this show. But there was also an '85 show happening. Cool KPFA broadcast gives the full meal deal on this one.
1988-03-27 - On 6/30/20

(However, you may never see this cause I'm editing my old post. So.. we'll learn something here :)

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It was so cold in New Mexico this morning it was even chili in Hatch.

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Would love to see some variety Jim, I have been trying.

What are you thinking?

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I was thinking another of the 88 Greeks??

Hey.. weren't we just talking about Horns tour? I think Oroborous pulled some strings and got us Dave's Picks 38. I have to say, I liked the next night more, but perhaps Latvala knew better.

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Yeah, I told DL that you all were interested in that tour and he said.. No Problem!

Psyche, never happened, but pretty stoked to get some September '73 this year.

Now... what's next?!?!? :)

I'm a Fiend!

I couldn't resist the call of the '71 today, I know there's been a big early '70s deluge recently. And... I could do that pretty much everyday until I couldn't.

However, yeah switch it up.
I love 12/14/90 Dark Star!
Or '88 is great.

And 12/14/71 is worth a listen if not today then soon.

Alright, good stuff.
Happy Announcement day.
I was looking forward to hearing what's next and hot dog it's from the early '70s :)
Get the subscription people!

Sure, always welcome. Let us know which show for tomorrow.

#38, back to 73. Sounds great. Another banner year shaping up for 2021. I had the year, but not the month or the show. Kezar will have to wait.

And now we can move on to the 2021 box set. So many possibilities.....

Stay well folks.

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That second set is stunning.. thanks for the pick.

Didn't we do one of the 88 Greeks already? I think yes, but not sure. The first is probably my favorite, which makes me think we already did it. How about the last, 7/17/88. If we did this one, then lets do the first.

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Jimi - Not much ’88 has happened here.
You mentioned the ’88 Greeks on 7/1/20 and I think we listened to this show. But there was also an '85 show happening that day.

Cool KPFA broadcast gives the full meal deal on this one.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qYmsTfhDMZc What a show, Garcia's first show back was a very special night. He looked like he was having so much fun . When he sang " I will survive" during Touch of Grey, I thought the roof of the Oakland Coliseum would blow right off, very emotional moment. During Candyman, when he sang " hand me my old guitar", the place just explodes. A very special night for sure, I'm glad I was there. A birthday I'll never forget.

I remember the word coming back from those shows, the Candyman was back in town.

I bet being there that night was a highlight.

Happy Birthday!

Listen to the roar, that's the stuff.

Thanks for sharing that, first tune of the day :)

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I will get this show going soon.

Summer 1988 was a hot time for us in MN and WI. Seems like a 100 years ago.

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GOGD, thanks for the birthday wishes. Jim, I didn't go to the 88 Greek shows they were all on KPFA, so I stayed home and taped all of them, along with bbq. and beer drinking, the Dead shows made for 3 days of great times.

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and a very happy birthday. Have an Imperial Stout on me.

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.....nice setlist.
Music Never Stopped->
Sugaree
Little Red Rooster
Loser
Memphis Blues
Far From Me
Bird Song
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China Cat Sunflower->
I Know You Rider
LL Rain
Terrapin Station->
Drumz->
Space->
I Will Take You Home->
The Other One->
Stella Blue->
Around & Around->
One More Saturday Night
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Knockin' On Heaven's Door
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Stumbled across this btw. https://fansignstime.com/grateful-dead-skull-neon-like-led-sign?93=17&1…

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Not sure where to post this .... but I mistakenly ordered two subscriptions this year, and rather than put them on eBay and make a profit, my Holiday cheer good Karma mood is causing me to list the pair, still sealed ( 2122 and 6407/22000 respectively) at cost plus shipping. So depending where you are figure about 65-70 bucks for the pair. PM me your interest. My only request (which will be honor system only of course) is that you don't flip them on eBay.
Mark. PM me if interested and I can likely still get to you to get under the tree

I caught the 87 Greeks (a personal high), the tapes are not noteworthy but the shows were great. I had wonderful tapes of the 88 Greeks I scored pretty much after the dust settled. Once Dicks Picks became thing in I think '93, I still had this legacy killer Alpine system in my truck with no back seat and the acoustics were pretty damned good.. it rocked and it was a cassette only vehicle so I still listened to cassettes for a while. ..really until I discovered Archive.org at about the same time as my alpine system got stolen for the very last time and I bought a new truck with a CD player. So that's my history with this run. I had every set on cassette and have fond memories but no recent listens.

Plus it's not an anniversary show so there's that. The middle night was my least favorite, but much loved nonetheless. The Memphis Blues is on Postcards of the Hanging and I have this suspicion it might have been recorded multi-track.

anyway.. back to regularly scheduled drums/space and anniversary shows. I would like to see this whole run get released, each of the three shows is noteworthy in my humble opinion.

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Billy the kid-Happy birthday for yesterday-I seem to have missed that one. You are three months ahead of me.

December always puts me in mind of 1971-some great shows in that month. Some released, some unreleased some in between. I am half way through 12/5-great lone outing for "I Washed My Hands" . Quite topical, now I come to think of it.

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VGuy - That's too funny. I started listening to that this morning.

Good stuff!

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Ha ha! I too fired this one up. Wow its like that cosmic mind experiment from the Capital Theater '71.

I put down some thoughts in the 2021 subscriptions thread about the 9-7 partial release too.

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....perhaps i should stop at a casino on the way home from work and throw a twenty in a Megabucks machine.

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I listened to 12/15/72 Long Beach last night. Awesome. Upon further research I read that the 12/11/72 Winterland show took place at the same time and date as the first of three EVAs (moon walks) of Apollo 17 astronauts that started at 4:54 p.m. P.S.T. and lasted 7 hours, 53 minutes and 11 seconds. So the complete Winterland show happened while the two last humans to walk on the moon did their work. Maybe that’s why they played Dark Star that night. Dark Star was also played on 12/15/72 in Long Beach while Apollo 17 was returning from the moon.
Possible recommendation for December 23, 12/23/70 Winterland.
If I had a 50 for all the 50th anniversaries I’ve been observing in recent years I’d have shoe box full of Ben Franklin’s.
Saturn and Jupiter are looking amazing. Last evening they lined up with the new crescent moon.

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Cool, I will check it out. Thanks.

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1. According to a few comments on this show's archive page this was the first show Jerry was playing the wolf.
2. First ever Let it Grow?
3. Check out Bobby's flanger pedal work on HCS

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I’ll have to check out 9/7/73. I only saw the Dead at Nassau one run, two nights in a row in March 73, right after Pigpen died.
After theaters and Veneta , Nassau was kinda like being in a full Nelson.

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Morning

Alright, so after listening to most of 9/7 yesterday and based on what we've been told by DL, here's my thoughts on what we're getting and why.
Lay it on me...

Bird Song & Playing In The Band as Bonus Material on DaP V38 per DL

Bonus Disc - Almost 80 minutes - (Might look like this)
Here Comes Sunshine
Let It Grow >
Stella
Truckin' >
Drums >
The Other One Jam >
Eyes >
Sugar Magnolia

That's close to 77 minutes of good stuff.
There's a reel flip in Truckin', about a 2 plus minute patch, they'll probably use the Jerry Moore Audience for. It appears to be on Master Reel. Taper's Section has it as well as circulating SBD.

My assumption on why this show doesn't get the full meal deal treatment is possibly due to the number of clipped beginnings to songs on the master reel. El Paso, LLR, Loser all have clipped beginnings.
So yeah, that's what I think will happen with that.

We're getting the Meat & Potatoes here folks! And it's the first show featuring Jerry playing Wolf.

Far Out, I'm stoked.

If we get the HCS from 9/7 the release with the Bonus will contain 6 of the 7 songs released on WOTF on the first two shows after the albums completion.

Good stuff for sure. Thanks DL & Team!

Now.. what's happening at 9am PST today with Dave & Gary?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QmMjY6tXaEo&feature=youtu.be

Could it be more WOTF news? Exciting :)

....picked Rich Stadium 6.6.92 randomly. I've never heard it. Just gotta poke around.
https://relisten.net/grateful-dead/1992/06/06
Touch Of Grey ->
Greatest Story Ever Told
Althea
All Over Now
Friend Of The Devil
Masterpiece
Ramble On Rose
Let It Grow
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Aiko Aiko ->
Estimated Prophet
Same Thing ->
He's Gone ->
Drumz ->
Space ->
The Other One ->
The Wheel ->
Throwing Stones ->
One More Sat Night
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Baba O'Reilly->
Tomorrow Never Knows

We're on the same wavelength again... I was just checking out 12/17/92, man that show is good!

I heard an interesting interview with Vince from 6/19/92 yesterday and it made me want to check out summer '92.

Nice!

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....I love the set list GOGD.

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We didn’t get a new release announcement.
Better luck next time.....

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What was it? Just the Merry Christmas stream?

Edit: Oh and the Ripple Video. Agree with the others.. meh. How about a one disc wonder stocking stuffer from an incomplete show half of the master reels sunk in the Titanic. Now that would be worthy of reeving up the Shakedown Stream engine...

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I have been in and out around these parts since school started up. This virtual teaching stuff is WAY more work than I thought it would be, and much more work than regular teaching. What might take me 20 minutes to prepare for the classroom is taking me an hour, what usually would take me an hour can take me up to three - and let's not even get into trying to tackle grading student essays...

Anyway, I am not sure if this is ground that has been covered, but I would like to suggest 12/16/78 Nashville for today. I am usually not a big fan of 78, but I will keep on trying, as I know there are some killer shows (or parts of shows) to be had. Anyway, this one was suggested to me, so I thought I'd give it whirl! Opens with a nice long Sugaree that sounds damn good to these ears. Here is a link to a Miller AUD that sounds pretty nice. I believe this is the best sounding copy available, and after a brief touch of warble in the very beginning, it really does settle down into a nice mix:

https://archive.org/details/gd1978-12-16.sonyecm250-no-dolby.walker-sco…

Also, I feel like I am in the minority here, but I really liked that Ripple video. I thought the animation was beautiful, and liked all the little Easter eggs hidden throughout.

Happy Friday, DeadLand!

Peace

Good to hear from you O and thanks for all your hard work with the kids! I mean it, I'm so impressed with teachers during this trying year and all the extra time and effort they have had to put in. So raising a glass to you my friend! (coffee cup, but same sentiment).

I'll check out the 12/17/78 show again, it's got a From The Heart Of Me ;)
It looks like there's a SBD with Aud patches as well as an Audience recording by the one and only Joani Walker (thanks Joani for all the tapes!!!!). And there's a post radio show interview with Joani & ACE Bob Weir.

But first.. I've got a date with a Dark Star from 12/18/73. Still on the road with Bob T in the 1973 time machine. 2 more shows to go and they could be legendary in the future!

Good Stuff.

PS EDIT - VGUY what'd you think of 6/6/92? Dug the first set. Best Take a Step Back in the 1990s? Also enjoyed weird Spanish Jam & TOO blender bender. I kinda fell asleep during set 2 (not knocking it, i just took a nap) so I might have to listen to it again, but yeah. Interesting time Summer '92. I'd just heard an interview with David Lemieux talking about the stage chemistry he witnessed on Spring '92 tour and that he wasn't surprised when Bruce split. Add the Vince interview from 6/19/92 and it gives an interesting view into the band at this stage of the game. Fascinating. BTW Dark Star out of Space on 6/8/92 is worth visiting!

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Thanks for the kind words!

Just for clarification, I am listening to 12/16/78 Nashville - 12/17 is Fox Theater - though they both have "From the Heart of Me." The Bobby interview is at the end of the Fox theater show too. This Nashville show is nice! It seems I prefer fall/winter 78 to winter/spring 78...

After this, I might just join you and Bob for a little palaver in Tampa 73 :)

Peace

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Good to hear from you Otis. Yes, this year has been a huge challenge for sure. My 11 year old daughter in middle school is having the virtual learning blues. Not too much fun looking at your Chromebook all day in Google Meets. Just hoping to survive this crap and see better days on the other side.

Anyway, thanks for the 78 pick. I will check it out. Last weekend I pulled out From Egypt with Love. There is some really good music on that release from October 78 at Winterland. And the bonus disc with If I had the world to give, is really good, love this version.

Stay well out there.

Haven't heard from Bob t for a while? And of course Bolo.

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Roger 12/16/78 not 12/17. Funny I mixed up the dates of 12/17/92 & 12/16/92 yesterday. I meant to say 12/16/92 is really good, but said 12/17.

Trippy!

Good stuff.

BTW - 12/18/73 is sounding good. Check out that GSET! Some epic Phil Bombs.
Getting ready for some WRS > Dark Star > Eyes this afternoon.
Might have to wait until 4:20ish
Happy Friday All!