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    Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.

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    Thanks for the reminder about this show, which I just enjoyed relistening. At 72 years old, I'm not much at remembering anything, but I did attend three of these Felt Forum shows starting with this Sunday show, and I do remember marveling at the monster long spectacular sets. (My immediately prior shows had been two nights in August at the Hollywood Palladium, which I still count among my absolute favorites, though they were clearly more abbreviated than the NY shows. Hard to Handle from 8/6/71 is unbeatable.) 71 was a great year for Me and Bobby McGee and this show is no exception. Also one of the last powerful performances from Pigpen. I remember thinking at the time that the Dead had really "made it" playing at the elite Felt Forum. Clearly not grasping what was ahead!

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    The ABCD factor

    Yep, can’t forget that, as those shows do seem to be a priority!

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    What Pacino said in III

    Morning, rockers! Happy Friday!!

    The following is all just one man's opinions, and based on my information at hand---which admittedly is probably incomplete and dated...............

    12/5 was not in the first two returned batches of Betty boards. The other three Felt Forum shows were, as well as other 1971 shows, such as Albuquerque, second December St Louis, first Ann Arbor, Northrop Auditorium, and several shows from the Spring. Of note, several of these shows were also broadcast live on local FM radio stations.

    In addition, Charlie Miller (great big thanks!) has remastered and put into circulation several soundboard copies of December 1971 shows that were also "broadcast shows", such as second Boston Music Hall and the New Year's eve show. So clearly, shows that were broadcast were also being recorded by the band.

    Another point: it's pretty clear that the Dead have a copy of the matrix FM broadcast in the vault. Over time, they have played snippets of it on their Taper's Section/Jam Of The Week postings.

    So why hasn't it been officially released yet? Don't have a good, informed answer for that, so now we're into educated guesswork. My guess is, is that it's been a returned tape recently, or TPTB know there's a board out there and are waiting for its return. Maybe somebody is "holding it hostage". We may never know, but I think it will see the light of day eventually, and then it will get its due respect.

    I have asked DL a couple of times if a pure soundboard of 12/5/71 has been returned to the band. No answer. I don't mean an evasive answer, I mean just plain no reply. I don't read anything into that one way or the other. Just keeping with the trend of TPTB being somewhat secretive about returned recordings..........

    Rock on!!!
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    As soon as man does not take his existence for granted, but beholds it as something unfathomably mysterious, thought begins.......

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    Sandbagging

    No offense to good ole Mr Dave (L not Rock lol), but I think there’s gotta be some kinda list or outline perhaps better word, not a set in stone list, but some kind of general listing of certain shows that should/will be released in time, just not any kind of planned out schedule. Which would be very GD like lol.
    He deny it categorically, but I mean to have a long term business plan you’d have to space out the top chestnuts. I can understand how this irritates some folks, fortunately, so far, not myself. But the next couple years will be interesting…
    I’m not sure I always get some of his individual picks, but he often knows what tours to harvest from, and I think it’s interesting to get turned on to shows, near or around the big dogs, that you’d perhaps not normally discover.
    And most of “those” have been good picks, just not “the” pick many desire.
    Personally I love em all, except when sonically inappropriate (51) as it’s opened my horizons significantly, but that’s just me and I totally get the sandbagging POV.

    Oh, AND, some of these shows have been significantly circulated over the years, so maybe that plays in?

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    No worries, Daverock!

    I appreciated the sly twist of sardonic humor there, per usual ... Cheers

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    Yes...maybe I was a little harsh!

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    And yet ...

    Almost all the ones they have released are still d*mn good too! 😁: Albuquerque, St.Louis, Austin, Ann Arbor bonus disc & the NYC material (what is not duplicative between the two dates) ... Only the UCLA show - which is decent, and likely was rush-released as Bill Walton descended - is a cut below the others ...
    All of which could mean they're saving the other greatness, lately listed by several folks here, for a Big Box. That said, I would not be surprised if it didn't appear for purchase for another several years. Nice to think about it though!

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    They seem to skilfully avoid releasing the best shows from this era when putting anything out, thereby making it seem a less impressive timespan than it actually was. A skill they could do with losing.
    Apart from Dicks 2, of course.

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    Great Question on the Felt Forum

    Yes, great question. Maybe Doc knows?

    I wouldn't think he would save it for a later release, so there must be another reason?

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    Time to say

    Why wasn't this show released? 12 6 and 7 ok but this is the one that SHOULD have been.

    Grumpy Grumpkins at your service

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Bolo24 says: An Idea, Perhaps? Since we're all going to have a fair amount of spare time on our hands for the foreseeable future, what about starting another thread where we all listen to the same show/release on a given day and then share impressions afterward? Folks can submit suggestions and one person (not me) picks what we'll all listen to - call it Deadnet Picks or something. Anyway, if this idea is deemed to have merit, I'd suggest one of the loyal regular posters take the lead and do the picking - y'all can decide who. Might be fun. If it does go forward, I nominate Dick's Picks 18 for the first listen. Been talked about here lately, and, had it been a single show rather than a compilation, we'd probably be talking about it in the same conversation as Cornell, Veneta, etc. Or perhaps even Gainesville?? Stay safe and healthy, friends - this planet needs as many Deadheads as possible.
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Just checking in... Haven't been on in a while... Travel for work has started back up for me..... Hope everyone is well....Just wanted to say hi.... Bob t

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bluecrow, my email said 6 shows from different years. I went with 7/28/82 (matrix), 8/1/73, 6/20/74, 10/15/76, 3/9 and 10-81 and What about Gainesville?

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Good to hear from you Bob t. You better send us a pick soon.

Box set, to be honest, since it has been so long, I am starting to loose interest. No clue what this operation is doing.
Here is the Barton Fink to the latest Betty Boards recovered and in the Vault from the ABCD transaction. Enjoy!

Looking at 10/26/71, download series #3 for today. Sounding fantastic so far. First listen to this show for me.

Anybody catch the Shakedown Stream last night?

Anyone expecting box news was unfortunately left in the cold again.

Shoot, we should have another Dave's Picks by the end of next month and no clue what it is.

I find myself going back to that box all the time. Past couple days I traversed through 3/5's of it. Kept me company while working outside. Imagine the trajectory of that box had summerfest not been cancelled on the 2nd. The box woulda been even more smokin' imo if that's possible.

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Tell me it wasn't so!!!!

So we are doing 10/26/71 and July 78. Fantastic.. Just give us a few days.

Sorry for being away, not on purpose. Welcome back Bob!!

10/26/71 - It's got a Cumberland (and the third Comes a Time). What could possibly go wrong?

Okay, who has a pick for tomorrow to start the week?
Break the drought. Do it, it feels go.

Any interest in good old 11/24/78?

Dave's #39 is on the horizon. I am thinking we get another 80's release. What are you all thinking?

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I didn't make 11/24 today.. so tomorrow then.

As for #39, if there's one thing Dave is, it's predictably unpredictable. Another 80's wouldn't surprise me a bit, but we are more due for a late 60's show too.

I'm going to try to fit in July 78 too.. somehow.

Any clues Bolo?

Hey Jim,

My guess is you have heard 11/24/78 at some point?

Fantastic show and it has a Shakedown.

Will join you with at least 7/1/78 and 7/3/78 at the St. Paul Civic Center.

The Willie Nelson Picnic. That was a huge deal for Willie. I recently saw a documentary on Willie and they talked about his big picnic shows he put on. Cool stuff, but they didn't mention the Dead playing at it in 78. That must have been something for those fans.

Dave could always throw out the first 90s show for #39? Who knows.

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This one is new to me.. Just finished the first set, a nice little post Egypt show. Looks like an Hamza El Din influenced second set including a stand-alone Fire near the end of the show..

Nice pick.

Wow.. checking out the weather in the PNW. Talk about Fire on the Mountain.. smoldering heat. Stay cool all.

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Can’t believe you never heard this one. Back in the day it was everywhere since it had been TV and radio broadcast.
Great multi/pro camera versions are available...
One if not the first show I ever saw on video. JG is outta his mind but on fire! Ya really need to see him!
Probably the most Bob jokes and MC lines of any show I can think of: “hello princess”, “ I wish they’d get these elephants of the stage” “don’t think about it, just do it, lean over...”” ladies and gentlemen we’d like to start the next segment...” etc etc, he’s like Letterman out there lol.
A MUST listen/viewing for any DH!

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Video is a must-see. Jerry was sick as a dog, voice was shot (they had to cancel the next show), but he played like his hair was on fire this night. A pro stepping up when the spotlight was on even though he felt crappy.

Great moment just before going into Shakedown when Bobby is trying to figure out where Jerry's going. He mouths, "What's he doing?" to the other guys. Priceless!

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I will start the second set via video then, later tonight. Thanks guys.

I am completely in the dark on this show.

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Never heard this one either! Sweet show! Thank you!11

Also, YDIGDH 6/30/74 is a stunner!

Peace

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One of my favorite modern era releases.

....and speaking of box sets.. so a priest, a rabbi and an atheist walk into a bar..

You might ask what does this have to do with sasquatch hunting and box set announcements? Exactly my point.

Onward.. lights are dimmed, it's concert time.

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6/30/85 Merriweather Post Pavilion: Hessberg Sennheiser ME-80s, Miller Transfer and Management Company.

This upload actually has all of the ID tags embedded, so I didn't have to do a half hour of data entry before listening to the show! Hooray for that! Sorry, did I just plug something?

Anyway, I'm sure you've all been to this show and have heard it a million times, but I've nowhere else to post these impressions, so use that scroll bar. I already had a copy of a different pull on hand, but hadn't paid much attention to the show until I started listening to this one that I downloaded yesterday before realizing I already had the show, but not this recording.

Solid. Tight. Focused. Most of the first set was on in the background. At that point I was, like, yeah, decent show; not sure what all the fuss is about. Keep on Growing was a nice surprise, but needed a couple more run-throughs, perhaps, if it ever got any. Then after switching to headphones at the end of LLR the show really started coming alive. That Shakedown jam... man... so dang funky. Got me movin', then... love that synth part Brent brings in. Samson is always a reliable rave up, and, again, I think the key words here are solid, tight, focused. One of the great things is that Bobby is really clear in the mix, and all that little Bobby stuff that he tosses in all over the place, just at the right moment, is all making these ever so slight course corrections in the direction of each tune. Gimmie Some Lovin', man they are taking no prisoners on the dance floor. Bobby's got some kinda auto-filter/flanger thing goin' on during this show that adding a really cool atmosphere. Would not have expected that during He's Gone, but there it is, and it's almost like he's adding little after-effects to Jerry's guitar. That's where I am now, but that Shakedown, which I'm sure you're all well aware of, really woke up my typing fingers. This AUD is actually crankable. Nice work, Mr. Hessberg!

7/1/78: YES! Love this one. Thanks for the reminder.

Yes.. a great show. Old Jer doesn't quite have the pipes to pull off the cryptical lyrics, but it's cool nonetheless. But hey, this show is all about that monumental, wonderfully funky Shakedown Street. Worth the price of admission for that performance alone.

Missed that anniversary.. Duooh.

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After an almost double listen to 7/1/78 and part of St. Paul, two days later.. I had some free time and a teeny tiny buzz so I hit the reaming portion of 11/24/78 but finished the show ala YouTube. I agree with Bolo that Jerry was a man on a mission. But what the heck happened to Keith? He was MIA and it was not the mix. Bobby, both drummers, of course Jerry and Phil, but Keith is out to lunch on this one. You almost wouldn't notice it but the there is the video. Depressing because I love Keith but there is somewhere else he would rather be this night.

It's no wonder Jerry felt the need to shred this night, because without him there would have been no energy.

Still good show and something I had not heard (or seen) before. Then again, as much as I love the rest of the band.. Jerry was the main attraction. So please do not view this post as a complaint.. just my two cents on how good this might have been if Keith showed up to work a full day.

Edit: One other add... in this video you really get to see Wolf in it's full glory. The Quilted or Zebra Stripped Maple is full-on electric dayglow under these lights. I have always had a soft spot for wildly figured maple and wildly figured wood in general. Sorry for the sidebar.. perhaps there's a carpenter or wood person out there that agrees.

That is all.. as you were.. Hand me my old guitar, pass the whiskey round.

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Yeah, my impression, and that's all it is cuz wtf do I know, is that Bobby pulled a prank and forced that Cryptical, but Jer wasn't ready for it. It starts out pretty good, but the tail end of the lyrics escape him. He fights through it pretty good, and it's no worse than the run-through of Getting Better in the first set, :P but yeah poor Jer's lungs are not in great shape. The struggle adds an extra bit of emotion and vibrato. Sometimes the spontaneity bites'em but they gave it a good go. The drum duo and Other One that follow absolutely keep the second set flowing, though. Cryptical's short enough, but also rare enough that it doesn't really impede forward progress, 'cause they've got some momentum built up, for sure. That's as far as I got. It's Friday night here, so time to crank some vinyl and get lost. It's been one of those weeks. I will definitely be coming back to 6/30.... The Willie Nelson gig is on deck. Was listening to that a ton last year or the year before. You can kinda feel they might be feeding off the different vibe of the Willie audience. They mostly play it pretty straight, but can't fight the weirdness too long. Lookin' forward to revisiting that.

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First ran across this one when i was trading tapes because I really loved that Scarlet>Touch>Fire combo from 7/13/84.... 58 and rainy here today in R.I.!!! Summer tour of 1990 kicked off 31 years ago tomorrow in the same vicinity as this show, Bonner Springs... 100 degrees when the show started, what a tour!!! Enjoy your weekend everyone... Bob t

Loved 7/1/78 again last week. You wonder what the audience thought when they broke out Terrapin?
7/3/78 at the St. Paul Civic Center is a great show. Great Scarlet Fire, Dancing in the Streets. One of my favorite versions of Werewolves in London.

Missed 7/31/84, will have to check it out. Thanks Bob t

Was thinking about 7/21/72 for today. Download Series #10. This show with bonus tracks is outstanding. If you have never listened to it check it out. Summer 72 is hot.

Stay well. Dave's Picks #39 by the end of the month? Can't wait.

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I just so happened to start that in the car yesterday and made it through Casey Jones (listen for the brief WRS at the end of that track).
Will resume the show tomorrow going to work.

Think I’ll play the 7-22 filler tonight.

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a freaky coincidence.

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You said well

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Not pillow talk again.

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The other day when that show came up, I happened to be listening too. There's a lot to like with that show. In fact, worth a relisten. I may go for it this weekend when I road trip. I am headed down towards bong, but not quite that far. I'm stopping at a different joint. :-)

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Okay, how does 2/26/77 sound to you all? This thing is on life support.

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Yes guys!

There is something about this show that still delivers. Must be the first Terrapin with no back up vocals and the Eyes!

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One of my favorite 77 shows for sure. I prefer it to dekalb, but at a certain point it's all subjective.

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1973? Written on the back, “if you can’t swing / then don’t hang”

“It don’t mean a thing
if it ain’t got that swing”

Composition by Duke Ellington
Lyrics by Irving Mills
Written in 1931

The list of musicians that have recorded it is impressive.

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It’s a 76/77 hybrid. Has elements from both years.

Think I’ll do the 2-27-77% filler that came with it.

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Great choice for opening the first set - Terrapin Station. I always hear it more as a song, than a jamming vehicle, and as such it seems better placed to me to start the first set than to pitch up half way through the second. Obviously the band didn't seem to agree.

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Who has a pick for today?

It has been 17 months since the last box announcement and eight months since they announced Dave's 38.
We need some news on what they have planned for the rest of the year soon.

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Okay, this one is for Oroborous. 12/13/1980 unless someone else has a pick?

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. . . and that's before i realized Flora Purim and Airto Moriera are sitting in during the drumz!!

which re-minds me of The Other Side Of This, a way-out-there album by Airto (produced by Mickey). highly recd. I'd linq if i could.

thanks DV for this POTD!!

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so more than a few days late on this. watched Set II video of 11/24/78 a cupula weeks ago- complete to-atl (total) John Deere time machine. Damn. So cool. So had a 2LP boot from ca. '82 and a grainy VHS from ca. 1996 yet it had probably been an easy 10+ since a visit. notes still carved in stone. love those early Shakedowns and this is where it started for me. and Hamza El Din w/ Mickey??!! Into Fire on the Mountain??!!

Bobby asking "what's he doing?" is freaking funny as heck!!

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Heard a snippet of "I Know You Rider" going out of the top of the 7th.

If Joe Buck wasn't so enamored with the sound of his own voice, I might have been able to pinpoint the show, or at least the era. Sounded pretty hot.

Oh, now out of the bottom of the 7th, Althea. I'll have to go back and listen if they did this every inning

that the misfits have become mainstream (or at least normalized).

....but it's way better than the alternative when we were unwelcomed (or imprisoned).

Progress.. perhaps, I'll take the win.

Good to see you Bolo.

First.. I am severely biased... because my alma mater is the Terrapin.

I love the Swing, start to finish, so it's hard to argue against a Terrapin opener. I love it as an encore too. But my favorite place for this song is well into the second set and it makes an excellent vehicle into the great unknown. Since we can no longer post linques.. might I reference 3/24/90. The Playin' In The Band>Uncle John's Band>Terrapin Station>Mind Left Body is other worldly. It really is.. excellent second set material.

I don't believe I am disagreeing in any way, just respectfully expressing the same thought from a different point of view, that being the slippery slope that is the beginning of the second set..

Love deep second set Terrapins. To me, it replaces a lot of the deeper space stuff prior to 74 from a post 75 point of view.

That’s where Terrapin rightfully belongs.
But you wouldn’t expect it to be there the first time played.

And then there’s that 3-18-77 Terrapin>Alhambra…..

Winterland March 77 Box anyone?