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    The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

    ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

    When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

    “RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

    Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

    Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

    For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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  • icecrmcnkd
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    Just look at popular music today, and in the past..... I like Brent and 80’s Dead, but I wouldn’t call Brent a genius, and I wouldn’t give him the credit for the surge in popularity in the 80’s. Love Bruce. When are we getting that Bruce Box?
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    Referring to Brent as a "musical genius" seems a bit absurd. There surely aren't that many people in music, or in any field, for that matter, who could be described as a genius. Within rock music, I would say that Jerry was a genius-maybe also Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan..The Beatles collectively. Perhaps one or two others. But Brent? I would also say that a bands commercial success has no bearing on their artistic success. The fact that The Dead sold more tickets, or sold more albums after 1987 was not because they were making artistically more satisfying music to that played in earlier, less commercially successful years
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    Spacebrother Interesting points you make. While I don't subscribe to the idea that Brent was responsible for the skyrocketing popularity in the later 80's, it was after all Jerry's song that went top 10, I think the critical remarks on him were off base. He did write some good songs his singing was a nice addition, Donna he was not.As for Bruce being a permanent member I don't think that was ever in the cards. Something to be said about captain of his small ship than a lt. on the good ship Grateful Dead. Frankie lee although I disagree with his thoughts about Brent and think he went over the top. To suggest he not express himself on the release we're talking about doesn't make sense
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    Dear Mind Left Body,Please send me your "Almost Enjoyable" Grateful Dead at once. I know a generation of beautiful, positive, people that will enjoy it immensely. Please enjoy your Euro 72' box the rest of yer days. This is a comment forum not a review blog. I respect your right to voice yer opinion here...please remember that opinions are like butt-holes...everyone has one and most people don't care to see the other's. If you or anyone you know personally can play as well, with as much soul as Brent...please post the link for all the rest of us to compare so that we become as enlightened about Brent being "nothing special".
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    ...yet, with Brent onboard, the Dead sold more albums and concert tickets than at any other time in their prior history. More people were turned onto the Dead when Brent was in the band than anytime prior in their history. Not only that, he was a brilliant songwriter, arranger, vocalist and keyboardist. Bruce is brilliant in his own right, yet in his tenure with the Dead, he lifted Brent's idea's most of the time, as opposed to making his role in the band his own. Did somebody mention Katy perry's "left shark"?... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ7II-uFxkU ...I think her 2015 left shark was way better than her 2016 left shark. Maybe it's an invasion by the Steve Hoffman forum folks. Lot's of left sharks in those waters.
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    Everyone can have their favorite "era". Just don't call me an asshole if mine ain't yours. That's not asking too much, is it?
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    On Bobby remembering all the lyrics... I remember back then the poking joke about Bobby can't remember the lines to Truckin' after 20 years, but he's going for Memphis Blues?!
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    My RFK’89 Box finally landed today. Here’s a link to hot-off-the-press, high-res, color corrected scans of Justin Helton’s art. Spread it around if you have a chance.https://www.dropbox.com/sh/caogjpqr1x9lxqj/AADUFrfe59DtqkpQKABG55sSa?dl… As clip-art, cut-and-paste collage, not sure this ranks up there with Disraeli Gears or Sgt. Pepper’s or even some of Helton’s other work. But more importantly, I’m looking forward to soaking up the shows this box contains along with all the other great music that’s swirling around. Onward!
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    I hadn't purchased an 80s show in awhile, but got caught up in the hype. Everyone sounds great, but Brent's vocals had gotten so bad by the late 80s, they ruin most songs. He was better in his early 80s supporting role, but like Donna, he became involved on way too many songs. Musical genius? Lol, no, that's a cheerleader talking. He's a capable player at best, in the right place at the right time. He's nothing special in the world of keyboardists, and you can find people of his caliber all overy the country (including the Dark Star Orchestra). He was nothing special in the way of writing and arranging, but he could hold his own on the B3, which even Pigen could do, and he was adaptable to the road, which was essential for the Grateful Dead - so he got the job. He would have been fine in the later years if he stuck with the Hammond and sung far less. He doesn't belong on Mississippi Half Step, Cassidy, and Terrapin Station, or a number of tunes beyond his scope. I think he knew it. Jerry once said that Brent had a complex, that he couldn't get past being "the new guy". As Phil drank more, and Jerry slid into his mind numbness, the Dead began to need someone to pick up the slack and BE more involved. Unfortunately, that extended him well beyond his capabilities. There were some great shows, I saw a lot of them, but they didn't compare to the 70s. Anyway, I mention it for a couple of reasons. One, this is an album review blog, and I'm here to say it's mediocre in the scheme of things, and two, there is clearly a lack of understanding as to why a great many people turn away from 80s Dead, but in a word, it's Brent. Now Hornby was the real deal. If only they'd adopted him in 1979. Writer, arranger, vocalist, jazz/jam capable. Enthusiasm for something you love is great, but lol, let's not casually throw around terms like musical genius. They're reserved for people like Jerry Garcia, and John Lennon, and Pete Townshend. That's just the way it is.
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    Yep.. I always liked their cover of Memphis Blues. I was amazed Bobby remembered all the lines. Desolation Row too.
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RFK Stadium 1989 Box

LESS THAN 5000 LEFT

The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

“RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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Thanks for the heads up, I've ordered mine. I thought a pretty good deal, 100 bucks for 6 shows AND a Zappa Halloween costume!!
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I haven't ordered the Uncle Frank release yet. I'm a little paranoid about the USB drive. I seem to recall some problems with the USB for a box set on this site and the chaos. Not sure how a defective USB and/or files would be handled through the ZFT (broken USB's are for a-holes).I might just stick with the 3 CD set.
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Very cool Jerry pix shirdeep. Made my day. Thanks for posting.
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Nice, nice :) Looking forward to receiving this a couple months down the line!
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I listened to the Wharf Rat from this RFK show. Jerry Garcia sounds real good, but who is the backup vocalist at the fly away bridge? Phil Lesh? Very strained and out of tune. I hope there's not a lot of him featured!
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Is it me or that one of the strongest versions of Wharf Rat available? Jerry's solos (esp. the first one) are simply astounding!
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The old cliché, you all know it. "A picture is worth..." Someone on the other happening thread posted an Amazing pho of the band in Boulder, 1980 if memory serves. Just a beautiful snapshot. And there are a recent couple here... cool '83 photo of Jer if a bit ragged. But then that one below. The elephant in the room. What the band dealt with. What killed him. I ask anyone, anyone to look at that sad photograph of Jerry Garcia completely destroyed, posted by shirdeep (where did you find it?), of our guy, gone, stinking, 100 lbs. overweight, Persian stains all over his fingers, clothes and lips. Doing Eddie Van Halen lines "I'll just dump out a gram and cut it with my hand," to stay awake and stumble onto the stage. Fat and filthy and reeking in days-worn rumpled bum clothing, just the epitome of self-indulgence. Disgusting. Is everyone blind? Does no one cast a critical eye upon this? It destroyed this band. It's why 1972 remains a high point. It couldn't be reached any more. I'm not saying drugs are fundamentally bad. Most of the great art of the last 200 years is the result of such inspirations. But, when folks can smell you coming, it's time. It's time. This is what a man of such talents and gifts did to himself, and, oh yeah, the coma. Sad, just fucking sad. The Stones are still going - strong. So could be the Real Dead, not the Co., had Jerry not succumbed. I love Jerry Garcia, and I choose not to remember him stinking and bloated. At least the music remains. Why did you post this ungodly picture?
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Both Wharf Rat and Cassidy sound incredibly strong with some great jamming in them. The mix also sounds quite good even though my computer speakers aren't the best. Can't wait!
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I've just recently gotten into the Grateful Dead, so I'm listening from a clean slate with no concert memories or anything like that. Coming from that direcrion and speaking objectively, this Wharf Rat is not in the same ball park as the ones I've been enjoying from the Europe 72 releases and Ladies & Gentlemen. Like I said, Jerry sounds good enough, just older, but Mickey's backing vocals are just horrible (ruins the song). I listened to other stuff from 89 on youtube, and it's all pretty much the same. Hard to imagine people calling 89 in the same ballpark as 71/72, it's just not. I would encourage you to check out the 71/72 Dead to really catch these guys in top form.
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That's Brent doing the backup vocals and yes, some nights were better than others. That's what makes us keep on coming back. There is something to love about most shows.
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I've seen shows at the Santa Cruz County Fairgrounds. Remember seeing Joe Walsh for free there in 1983 or so. He was a bit ragged in those days but still good and FREE!
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Some people like the raspy voice of Brent, to others it's like finger nails on a chalkboard.Personally, finger nails on a chalkboard never bothered me. And I like Brent too. I also like '72 Dead. In fact, I listen to everything from 65-95, and toss in a litttle video of FTW and D&C too. LedDed, toughen up buttercup.
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Someone said it was Mickey. I'm just getting into these guys, thanks for the correction mtnhead and icecrmcnkd. Some great Jerry Garcia pictures, thanks to the posters.
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These sound awesome. The mix is spot on, and that's just the low resolution sample. couple points here... 1. The Wharf Rat vocal harmonies are spot on. 2. Mickey and Bill sound awesome together on this mix. 3. These two shows are phenomenal.
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Anyone else notice Bobby playing some of Wilson Pickett's Land of a Thousand Dances after the last pre jam verse of Cassidy?? Must of been a groovy crowd at RFK that night!
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Sorry for everyone doing cleanup right now. Also sorry about my question on the boxset construction. Everbody is right it's the music that matters. I asked that because this boxset costs more than Warlocks box which in my opinion is the coolest well priced well worth boxsets ever made. Because it's been quiet how about we start a current 5? list. With this set and the Dave's coming I decided for the first time before the release it's all non dead.1. Prophets of Rage 2. Dazed and Confused 1&2 3. The very best of Curtis Mayfield. He is such a bad man. I've been lost in his encyclopedia. 4. All the Light Above it Too. Jack Johnson 5. Dom & Roland:Through the Looking Glass Everybody be well. dAve
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long time since I have heard this show, sounds even better now
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The Chain. Fleetwood Mac. Brilliant. I felt like shit all day today about calling out shirdeep for that unflattering photo of Jer. I still don't know where he/she? got it, but I'd like to burn it. You later posted pics, esp. of Jer hanging with a fan in the VW - ! - have redeemed you a thousand times over my friend. It is I who must earn it back. I Maintain, (pun intended, freaks who can relate) an elegantly framed photograph of Jerry and Owsley in San Diego International Airport, 1968 (the year of my birth), Jerry Garcia at the height of his Powers in all of his glory standing, Defiant and Strong, with the solar wind of a thousand suns blowing out from his center, cigarette askew, black leather jacket. Our guy and the sincere Champion of fucking all of this was, shy, but capable of projecting himself as a Bad Ass only now and then. This was once. In a lovely frame in my home office, the center of my power. For now. https://www.bing.com/images/search?view=detailV2&ccid=jjd4k2jc&id=17866… Few can harness this. It has it's price. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzyhogPKV54 Later. \m/
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Spacebrother, that's some set of tuners you have on you there, if you think the gentleman who has been identified for me as Brent is providing properly pitched vocal harmonies. I'm not sure why they gave that man a microphone, but I teach chorus, and I assure you that no producer would ever let that Wharf Rat bridge on a studio album, it's THAT off. But it's apparent to me by the responses from multiple people that critical analysis has left the building, and all that's left is love for this version of the band, which is not a bad thing, but love is blind (and deaf in this case).
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....is that there are no Dead harmonies. We're here for the Playing of the instruments, which is why we love long jams with few vocals. But when we get vocals, they're usually well-written lyrical journeys. Which is why most of us can tolerate off key singing. If you think that '72 is better, well, find yourself an epic Playing in the Band that gets blown to pieces at the end by Donna.
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We're about the same age.White-haired grandpa/Santa Claus Jerry is the only Jerry I know. Gotta take the good with the bad. As you said, he was shy. But he was forced onto a pedestal by the fans and it took a heavy toll on him. I am soooo thankful that I got to see grandpa Jerry play, as well as uncle Brent.
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7-19-74 Playing in the Band, and with a perfectly placed Donna scream to cap it off!
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I know!!! Does she think she's Janis?? But I've found a couple Playin' in the Bands w/out her, 4/16/72, 3/22/72, 11/30/73, & 12/2/73. She seems to have it down by '76. She sings well most of the time, however, where Mickey sounds awful / offkey almost every time he opens his mouth. His range is so limited he can't support the lyric he's singing. He actually sounds better singing lead (Blown Away 7/7/89) than backup, I assume because he wrote the song in a key he can cover. I kind of disagree with you when you say the first rule with the Dead is that there are no harmonies. They're all over the place and damn good on most of the 60s and 70s shows I've heard. Check out High Time 7/16/76 on Dave's Picks 18 (which I just paid through the nose for on eBay), and there's a song called The Eleven on Two From The Vault 8/24/68 which is an excellent example, and I would also recommend if you have it, Candyman from 4/15/70. There are plenty more, but honestly, I don't know half the song names or albums yet. Uncle Johns Band is another good one, during the "like the morning sun" vocal, someone is in there providing some rich in-tune harmonies (Bob Weir?). I sense the knee jerk reaction of y'all in Mr. Brent's defense, so let's just call it love and move on. I thought I was commenting on a forum where musical quality was the theme, and this Wharf Rat lost its right when the backing vocals kicked in. Things like pitch and key are not subjective concepts, they're tangibles in which "spot-on" does not apply in this case.
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Sorry I wrote Mickey below when I meant Brent. Someone told me Mickey was the scratchy voice guy earlier and now I'm mixing them up.
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This Wharf Rat rocks and the vocals are excellent. Tinnitus perhaps?....or you just hate Brent?
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How much people's tastes can differ and how some are more critical than others.
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Butch, there have been discussions about Donna previously around here. Apparently, she couldn't hear herself very well on stage and didn't know how bad it sounded. Also, apparently she is louder on the recordings than she was at the show. She sounds great with the Jerry Garcia Band. Check out the album 'Don't Let Go' from 5-21-76. Also, the person that told you it was Mickey was screwing with you. Mickey is one of the drummers and doesn't sing with the Dead. He does sing Fire On The Mountain in The Mickey Hart Band.
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Been off exploring new vistas.But I’m back.........and dove deep into 73: fresh ears can help to hear things one might have overlooked. Hearing the tone of Jerry much clearer now. And the sweet delicacies of his touch. Sometimes being away can make you stay!
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Sometimes the challenge to the listener is when Brent's harmony is higher in the mix than Jerry's vocals are, which can grate a bit. Brent is laying down harmony, but for some reason the volume of his vocals over power Jerry's. I have heard this in some audience recordings as well as soundboard. I will have to listen to this again to the Listening 'tease' they provided for these shows. I heard an example this a couple years ago at one of the Meet up at the Movies during Mississippi Uptown Toodoloo. Jerry's vocals were almost buried due to Brent's harmony's being so prominent to the point it was difficult to hear Jerry at all. Actually, I blame that on Healy's mix. I would also state I don't recall that in the early days of Brent's stint. I am going to have to listen again to my first Brent show at the Portland Raceway in 1979. And I would offer, especially these days, so many want to hear Jerry's voice clearly. We miss him so much. It isn't always the "hate Brent" sentiment, sometimes it is the mix, which was more problematic in those Healy daze, it seems. My two cents worth. Believe it if you need it, if you don't just pass it on. "Teachers open the door, but you must enter by yourself"
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Making space: giving away box and contents from 1990 The Other One, *MINUS* the CD's. You get the Dice, book, tickets, backstage passes, medal and drawings.Catch: you come pick it up in South San Francisco. PM if interested...
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No, I don't hate Brent, I've only just gotten to know him. Just critically speaking about the music is all. He has pitch issues in all of the 1989 recordings I've listened to, including the samples here. I teach chorus, so believe me, I know when a singer is off-key. There's nothing wrong with it if it doesn't bother you, so enjoy! But trust me, it's there, and the only reason I brought it up is because it suprised me that an established band like the Grateful Dead could have someone as consistently off-key as Brent. But it's cute that you came running to his defense little fella, asking if I have tinnitus and all. You got a lotta spunk tiger, keep that fire in your belly ;-)
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If you heard me sing you would probably have a nervous breakdown. I’m so bad it makes Brent sound great.Vince.....well, that’s another story. I also can’t play any instruments, which is why I think Bob plays slide pretty good...... Yeah, if you want to fire up Spacebro, say something negative about 89/90. I know where he’s coming from, my first 2 shows were in 89.
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Especially her war cries in Playing In The Band. During my Grateful Dead concert going heyday (1972-1974) when me and my buddies would hear the opening notes to Playing In The Band we would push forward just to be under her (Fruedian slip?) to experience the glory of her wail. I know some people hate Donna and especially her PITB wail. Doesn't bother me in the least. Each to his own. Like what you like, dislike what you dislike. Don't get evangelical about your preferences. It's a big tent.
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Quit being a dick Butch.:)
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He asked if I had tinnitus and hated a man I never met, simply because I casually mentioned he sings off key. I was not the first to get personal, so where's your reprimand toward the other guy? But really, no need to drag anything out, I'm willing to let bygones be bygones. I'm professionally involved in music, so I tend to approach it with a critiacl ear. I was telling Kayak Guy, I enjoy The Who every time I see them, but I know Daltrey's voice isnt even close to what it was in his prime. Doesn't mean I won't discuss his vocal performance if it's below par, because all it is are words about quality of a guy who sings. I'll even pass this tip along - there's a great version of Blues For Allah on what I'm told is a rare bonus CD from Beyond Description box set. I was pointed to it by my buddy who took me to movie night. The guy's keyboards are absolutely amazing here, and singing discussions aside, he does play a mean Hammond. Also check out Grateful Dead Go To Nassau, where there's more great Hammond, and the best version of Franklin's Tower I've heard yet (and great pitch by Brent, probably due to being younger). So it's words, no need to say I've got tinnitus because I'm calling it like it is, about a performance from a guy nobody on this message board has ever met. My livelihood depends on having a good ear, so yeah, I'm insulted when someone makes off color remarks like that. Grateful day to all!
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Because the other person didn't talk down to him using words such as cute & calling him little guy. :)
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There aren’t enough tears or prayers for you. Heartbroken.
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I too study music. In fact, I've been doing it for nearly 40 years. I've studied, taught, written countless charts, performed, arranged, recorded and even toured coast to coast and abroad for some of them. I've mixed sound, worked as a stagehand, as a guitar/bass tech, built/rebuilt amplifiers. I even know what 440 hertz is and so on and so forth.....but that's just me bragging about my background. Brent's vocals on this particular performance of Wharf Rat are the most in pitch of the three singers during the vocal bridge, at least to my ear. If anything, Jerry and Bob sound a tad flat here by maybe just a hertz or two (microtonal). Splitting hairs. What do you expect for human live performance? Some people like Brent's vocals and some don't. Initially I was apprehensive about him when I first stumbled on the Dead in the early '80's. He grew on me quickly and is now my favorite keyboardist/vocalist next to Pigpen. Keith and Bruce were also great. I warmed-up to Vince after the first couple of years....but that's just my opinion. Instrumentally, Jerry rips an inspired guitar solo on this Wharf Rat out of that vocal bridge that alone makes this set worth getting. The song grooves and Jerry and the band are on fire here and that's what matters to me.
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On another subject....This is very sad news and send my thoughts and prayers to the victims. One way or another, this darkness has got to give.
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Is still alive early reports of his untimely death were not confirmed.
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An amazing talent! RIP
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