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    ATTENTION ALL WHARF RATS: Tuesday in Atlanta Mom AKA Caroline The original East Coast Table coordinator and Honorary Wharf Rat Queen will be attending the Show. Mom contributions to the Wharf Rat Group are myriad, too numerous to count really. From 1988 until 1994 she tromped up and dow the East Coast doing the Table and making sure it was done right leaving a rather large wake of pure LOVE everywhere she went. She started the newsletter and kept it going for years getting help wherever she could. Bumperstickers, Stickers that you all wear with the one show at a time, so many things about the wharf Rats that we take for granted all credit can be laid at Caroline's feet. She saved the Wharf Rat Table from banishment during a particular episode of very bad behavior by wharf rats who should have known better and I don't know if anyone else could have pulled it off. She doesn't make an appearance very often so if you are in Atlanta come by and give her some Love.
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    Good morning rockers!!!! As many of you may or may not know, I am a bit of a “1971 Dead fanatic”. I have taken on a slightly ambitious project, documenting all 1971 Dead shows, the end result of which I hope will combine numerous “facts/factoids” about shows with recollections of folks who actually attended Dead shows in 1971. In order to accomplish this, I need the help of the Dead fan community. ALL contributions will be properly and specifically credited. If you attended ANY shows in 1971 and have ANY recollections to share, PLEASE consider participating. Please PM me for details. While of course I’m happy to hear from anybody who attended “classic 71 shows” such as Port Chester, Fillmore East, Harding Theater, Felt Forum, etc., I’m particularly interested in hearing from folks who may have attended lesser known, “out of the way” shows, such as: 1/21/71 Davis 1/22/71 Lane Community College 3/5/71 Oakland 4/14/71 Bucknell 4/18/71 Cortland 6/21/71 Chateau d’Herouville 8/4/71 Terminal Island 10/19/71 Northrop Auditorium 11/11/71 Atlanta 11/17/71 Albuquerque In addition, if ANYBODY out there has “paper ephemera” related to 1971 shows, Please consider participating. I’m looking especially for: Newspaper/print media articles Show posters/handbills Ticket stubs Photographs Thanks in advance to all who participate and contribute! Rock on, Doc Gillespie
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    IDK if the other recovery programs have them but I have seen it in 12 step groups like all walks of life. Can be good to listen to some elders. Denver is big and maybe there is a recreational 12 step club to go to. I would research your options rather than try something that is not working for you after you have given it a chance.
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    Many of the people I know did not like AA at first. Stick with it is the 1 program I know of that accepts us no matter how we are there are no clicks it might seem like your to young yet it will stick I believe in you. Your life is going to get so much better beyond your wildest dreams trust the process Good luck and write me any time you want john
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    Greetings lovely Wharf Rats, I just joined the forum. I am based in the Denver area. Very early in my recovery from alcoholism. Got 2 months sober last summer otherwise it's been a struggle to even get a week. I am getting help now from a therapists and group. Any Wharf Rats in the area that can recommend a meeting or support group? I have tried AA several times, I guess I just haven't found my home group yet. I find the age gap tough for me as I am only 26. Anybody else not like AA at first? I am willing to try again, but if anybody knows of a meeting that is especially awesome let me know! Thanks for this forum and recognizing the need within the music scene. I can only hope as I get furthur along in my recovery I can help others struggling with addiction. We are such a conscious and spiritual group of people I feel the poisons out there are holding many back from reaching full potential. Including myself. Love you all Unbroken Heart
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    where are the wharf rats
    where are the wharf rats going to be at soldier field?
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    Well said, Sir John....just like the day before Christmas
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Submitted by Jimmy C. on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 10:10

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I'll be sittin' in the " No Alcohol " section at Wrigley Field 5/5.Cubs vs Giants.........Game time 1:20 pm Tickets still available :o) It would be so cool to have a whole WharfRat section at Wrigley. See you there. November and more as I wait for the score. They're tellin' me forgivness is the key to every door.
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Submitted by Cosmic Casey on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 12:58

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I will be at the DCU 4/18...this will be my first show w/ out being "chemically" inconveienced...will there be a wharfrat meeting there? And how ill I know they are there and where ? Also I haven't recieved my tix yet...has anyone out there recieved there's? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Submitted by theothercharli… on Wed, 03/18/2009 - 16:29

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thank you... i am so grateful to be here.. when ratdog.org went down, i wondered where i would find some kind fellowship... WHARF RAT: 8 years; 9 months; 5 days... glad to be here...
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Submitted by uncle lefty on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 07:45

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Are you the other Charlie I met in PA? If so, Welcome friend! If not, Welcome friend anyway!Peace, Love and Recovery,lefty
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Submitted by sixstringsmoreorLesh on Thu, 03/19/2009 - 13:37

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tj crowley traditionally the 'table' is identified w/ 'yellow ballons' usually there's a banner (wharf-rats)attached to the wall inside milieu(s) will have table on main floor directly behind drums/stage above all..if even staying w/ the wharf-rat folk is un-comfortable, the same two feet that brought you dancin in can bring you to the exit sign(s)
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Submitted by kym on Fri, 03/20/2009 - 20:39

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Hello friends, Haven't visited the forum for a couple of months now, but very happy to announce that I recently celebrated my 1 year birthday - hoping to get to a show or two out west in May. If I can make it, I will certainly be on the lookout for fellow wharfrats - would sure love to meet some of you! Kym
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Submitted by TennesseeTed on Thu, 03/26/2009 - 08:17

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Hey people, DC and Charlottesville are just a couple of weeks away! I'll be doing my 1st shows sober. My last shows were in NC 89 right before getting sober. I'll be on the lookout for the table and yellow balloons-can't wait to see you there!
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Submitted by tn_geoff on Thu, 03/26/2009 - 10:52

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Hey y'all. I'm going to Greensboro and the 5/5 Chicago shows. It's just me, one ticket. I'm super-excited but also a little wary because of the cunning, baffling nature of this disease. Any folks here I could meet up with before/after these shows? (Can't wait to look for the yellow balloons!) I want to really have a good, carefree time, and not feel weird if there are triggers, y'know? I've been clean for a few years now but haven't been to hardly any shows. I went to tons of meetings the first few years, got a strong foundation I guess. But for the past five or so – the familiar story – I've gotten "busy" with life: having a kid, work etc. I'm grateful to have remained clean during this time. Actually, since getting my ticket for Greensboro, I've been to more meetings than in the the last five years. But still not in the middle of the boat as I was when first clean. I was so excited when I found archive.org a few years ago. I got back into the Dead without getting tangled in the scene. But it's just been me and the music. My wife – who I met in recovery – unfortunately doesn't get the "dead". Thank god for this forum. Once again, I realize I'm not alone; there are people out there just like me! Peace. ---- I was blind all the time I was learning to see.
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Submitted by sixstringsmoreorLesh on Thu, 03/26/2009 - 14:49

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tj crowley not sure if i'll be at any show(s) due to price of tckt's BUT march 28th will be my anni
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Submitted by rodger allinson on Thu, 03/26/2009 - 17:32

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RODGER ALLINSON alas yet being clean and sober now for the past six years i can really apreciate and respect what being a wharf rat is all about when i was on tour all those years i could'nt even begin to imagine the concept but now i,m glad that as i go to shows this spring ill have a network to plug into
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Submitted by Sparkling Clean on Fri, 03/27/2009 - 05:08

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Hey Jimmie C and all wharf,sI'll be at Wrigley 4/18, with 11 years clean and sober. I'll let you know how cold it was. -PEACE-
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Submitted by redtony23 on Wed, 04/01/2009 - 16:23

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I've got 8 yrs and L.A., May 9th is my first Dead show, is any one else going??
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Submitted by Cleodus on Fri, 04/03/2009 - 10:55

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Celebrating the resurrection of The Dead on Easter Sunday in Greensboro. Yellow balloons/tables on the premises?
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Submitted by ctchclt on Sun, 04/05/2009 - 11:21

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I'll be there, Lord willin'.
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Submitted by theotherone2 on Mon, 04/06/2009 - 06:44

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Well the final weekend before the tour has come and gone, and no west coast freebie, warmup, sendoff, nothin, zilch (I was hopin). Guess the days of the unanounced free show in Golden Gate Park are over. Oh well, see all of you west coast rats @ Shoreline. Hope I don't go into DTs between now and then (deadlirium tremuns) "I'll get up and fly away"
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Submitted by eFreak on Mon, 04/06/2009 - 06:54

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I have looked for WR groups around chicagoland to no avail.Nobody seems to feel like typing.
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Submitted by HolyGuy on Mon, 04/06/2009 - 22:24

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Hi, I am looking for a kind soul in NYC to sell me 3 tix for the 042509 MSG DEAD show for $200 total. I realize this is CRAZY-BELOW the price on the tix. To compensate for this I am offering you a FREE 3 NIGHT stay in San Francisco. I have a lovely studio apt located 3 blocks from the Powell Cable Car turnaround and would love to share my space w/ you for free. SHORELINE May 10th, SHORELINE May 14th, and you've got a free place, heck, I'll let ya stay at my place from the 9th till the 15th!! (Shoreline stay ONLY offered for Wharfrats, and I pay only $150 for the 3 tix) If this works for us, I have a relative in Manhattan that will pick up the tix and pay you, Of course, I am sure we will speak prior. search words to pull up my post quicker: SF NYC MSG Mountain View CA 05/10/09 05/14/09 051009 051409 0510 0514 042409 0424 04/24/09 04/24 $200 $150
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Submitted by hippiechickmom on Tue, 04/07/2009 - 18:36

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Sorry I havent posted in a while.....life on lifes terms. IM SO EXCITED-its been hard to work, think, eat, sleep, I know you guys understand! April 12 will only be my second show sober but I CANT WAIT!!! I am gonna be doing the family thing most of the time but will be hanging with the Rats too!!!! Did I mention IM SO EXCITED?????!!!!! c u guys sooooooooooon!
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Submitted by tn_geoff on Wed, 04/08/2009 - 10:20

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Anyone know of good meetings in Greensboro or Winston-Salem Saturday night or Sunday morning? I'd love to get a meeting in before the show.
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Submitted by gratefulhead on Fri, 04/10/2009 - 10:48

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Greensboro, NC I'll be there. 15 yrs clean. See you guys under the yellow balloon. It will be my first WharfRats experience.
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Submitted by gilkid on Fri, 04/10/2009 - 13:53

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I am just discovering this Wharf Rats thing. Feels like comin home all over again. I have been to lots and lots of shows but hopefully(if I can find a ticket to buy!) May 9 in L.A. will be my first sober show. I have 7 yrs of good trudgin here in L.A. but I'm really excited to see the dead when I'm sober I am REALLY EXCITED!!!!!! LIFE IS GOOD!! May the four winds blow you safely home
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Submitted by ezduzit1982 on Fri, 04/10/2009 - 16:18

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just 2 nights and a wakeup Wife and I are taking our 18 & 20 yr olds to their first show... they grew up listening to The Dead and they are as stoked as their ole man. It was my 20 yr old son that noticed it would be the 38th anniversary of my first show... pretty special and will be my first with my children (double special) See everyone at the Meeting between sets ... Been clean n sober 26 years and gonna shake these ole bones one more time... :-)
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Submitted by gratefulhead on Sat, 04/11/2009 - 19:30

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What time will the wharfrats gather at the Greensboro show? Any good Narcotics Anonymous meetings in the area?
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Submitted by TNHippie on Sun, 04/12/2009 - 03:25

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I found out about them 2 years ago at the Bonnaroo Music Festival in Manchester, TN. This past 17 March 2009 I celebrated 23 years clean and sober. I thank God I survived the 15 years before that. Let your life procede by its own design.
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Submitted by monmouth18 on Sun, 04/12/2009 - 04:43

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Hey All,Can't wait until you come up to NJ/NYC. My name is Jason and have been a wharfrat since 2002. Looking forward to seeing you up here! Have fun tonight :) Can find me on aol Notfadeaway18, give me a text when you get to NJ. Jason
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Submitted by Jazz Kitten on Sun, 04/12/2009 - 05:54

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Hey All, Tammy from Philly, PA here, 78 days sober, my 1st sober show will be in Philly Sat May 2nd and i'm nervous, looking for wharfrats to help me stay sober and dance the night away. Please contact me so i don't have to sell my ticket out of fear, i had to give up all of my ppl, places and things. JazzKittenPoet@yahoo.com
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Submitted by sixstringsmoreorLesh on Sun, 04/12/2009 - 08:46

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tj crowley meetings usuaaly are during the break but the table is attended to throughout the show
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Submitted by ezduzit1982 on Mon, 04/13/2009 - 15:27

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Looked high and looked low ... No Wharfrat table at the Greensboro show Couldn't find table nor meeting between sets ... Glad I wasn't Jones'n
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Submitted by CosmicChrispy on Thu, 04/16/2009 - 06:31

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I hope to see the yellow balloons at the show tomorrow in Albany. There's nothing like a Dead concert sober!
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Submitted by gainesvillain on Fri, 04/17/2009 - 00:22

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Wow, we ended by loudly singing a line from "Black Peter" starting with "See how everything leads up to this day" and people were stopping and staring and taking pics. Big Daddy Don said Jerry sang that at the WR first show. Thanks to the guys at the table for being there when I took a break from the freaky Space stuff the Dead are doing now. I'm SO GRATEFUL for my WR fam and wouldn't have made it these three shows without you!
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Submitted by james803 on Fri, 04/17/2009 - 09:39

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Yea, I couldn't find the rats at the greensboro show either. But I had a great time. Thats 6 clean shows for me and looking forward to many more. The boys sound great I hope they start touring more often. This summer or next fall would be killer.
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Submitted by TennesseeTed on Fri, 04/17/2009 - 18:28

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Made my shows in DC & UVA clean and sober. Thanks for the yellow ballons at both shows. It was a comfort to know you were there, if I needed you. My brother rode shot gun for me. Miracles in sobriety never cease.
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Submitted by palladium1971 on Wed, 04/22/2009 - 17:52

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Hello family,Going to the Mountain View show, 6 of us Clean, not Dead Heads. Hope to get to meet some of you there. Anybody going? Janice
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Submitted by HolyGuy on Sun, 04/26/2009 - 00:07

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MSG SHOW... WOW!!!! I went with my 69year old Dad, My Brother in Law and a friend. We had section 401, but MIRACLED floor seats, both sets! Cosmic Charlie, U J Band, He's Gone, Gimme Shelter all SUPER DUPER!! Mid Set break Wharf Rat mtng, very nice, extra special. The meeting was so packed, "normies" in the hallway couldn't get by! Hahaha. I shared, said I was Wharfrat from SF. Very warm, good vibes. Sobriety countdown, beautifull. Confetti was thrown and my thick hair soaked it up. I think some of it remains. St. Stephen w/ confetti, in and out of my hair, like spaggetti... I will be at Shoreline both shows, Call me up, my name is Lew. (415) HOLY-GUY Wharf Rat AA mtngs on Thursdays at 8:15, Noe Valley SFCA, hope to see y'all there...
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Submitted by gainesvillain on Sun, 04/26/2009 - 10:58

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FYIOn this site's video page, the video of Greensboro featured Big Daddy Don on the floor dancin with his crazy hat! When I met him in G'boro I didn't know who he was, but I found out at the other shows. He was a valuable asset to me at the shows and generous to my driver, gifting her some "Cats Down Under the Stars" jewelry.
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Submitted by phreeang on Sun, 04/26/2009 - 23:26

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Hi Everyone, Sounds like the shows are amazing and everyone is havin' fun doin' it sober. I live in Carlsbad, CA and was wondering if anyone from San Diego is heading up to the show on May 9th. I'm newly sober and would love to go to the show. I need to go with some wharf rats otherwise I won't be going. I'm leavin' it up to my higher power. I'm puttin' it out there and seein' what comes back. Cuz I no that the life I was livin' was no good but I'm gettin' a new start to live the I should. please email me at phreeang@yahoo.com if you have any info, would like to chat or are goin' to the show and you have room for one more sober head. Lots of Love, Ang
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Submitted by garciame on Mon, 04/27/2009 - 06:51

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I see no one has posted to this in a few years so I am reaching out in hopes that someone will respond...any wharf rat action at the 2009 shows?
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Submitted by garciame on Mon, 04/27/2009 - 06:55

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Ok, now the site is acting funny..as soon as I posted my question the 2009 comments came up LOL. Hugzzz
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Submitted by kym on Mon, 04/27/2009 - 21:37

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Coming out from Arizona for my first SOBER show on 5/14 and hoping to put some faces to the names I read here. Where should I look for the table and balloons - somewhere inside the venue would be my guess. Will be visiting with friends in the area, but will be on my own at the show and hoping for support! Love y'all - see ya soon!
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Submitted by theotherone2 on Tue, 04/28/2009 - 11:59

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Gettin close to showtime folks...would love to get together with other clean and sober rats before show and share experience strength and hope. I went to the NYE Phil/Ratdog shows and my sobriety was in jeopordy for a while. Need to make sure I'm plugged in for this. I plan on getting there very early (lawn seats). Shoot me an email here or rhollis80@yahoo.com ♪♪♪ "I'll get up and fly away" ♪♪♪
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Submitted by RedRocksTodd on Tue, 04/28/2009 - 16:05

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Thanks for the table in Hartford! My 5 years and my buddies 1 year sure did appreciate you being there.
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Submitted by Haps on Thu, 04/30/2009 - 20:33

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Meadowlands was great!! Looking for a safe place to meet on lot in Philly?? I'm doing a few shows with Louie, and am always happy to give out a one show sticker and a hug. His Falafal/ Jerry Roll booth is impossible to miss on shakedown. Also looking for an extra ticket both nights.. Haps/ Flaps/ 7 Laps
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Submitted by lonesomejohnnie on Sun, 05/03/2009 - 15:59

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Original Wharf Rat from the East coast now living in Wyoming. 24 years clean and looking for Wharf Rats to hang out with at the Denver Show. HP provided a clean rider by "coincidence" when I posted on a local board. Email me at lonesomejohnnie@hotmail.com or call me at 307-248-3117 (cell). Some folks trust in reason, others trust in might, I don't trust in nothing, but I know it'll turn out right.
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Submitted by wharfrat_36 on Thu, 05/07/2009 - 08:57

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Haven't seen any version of The Dead since I sobered up in 2000 and am heading to Shoreline on Sunday... can't wait to feel the music again. Will be with a solid buddy but am hoping to find a meeting at set break... any suggestions from those in the know?Enjoy the shows, take care of each other and be well. Thanks for any help you can hoffer. "once in awhile you get shown the light"
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Submitted by WharfRatRoss on Thu, 05/07/2009 - 16:11

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Just wondering if there will be a booth at the Forum for us? Didn't see one in Philly.....
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Submitted by hippiechickmom on Thu, 05/07/2009 - 19:37

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wow! what an amazing trip-ya a little strange too I guess!!! Hit up tables in Greensboro, D.C. and Charlottesville-which was AMAZING might I add-Black Peter is so powerful-great shows-great sobriety-I even got some great bumper stickers for my car! Now people can come up to me and ask who August West is-or what a Wharf Rat is for that matter-lol!!! I love all of you my brothers n sisters-thankx for being part of my family!!!peace, love, n sobriety-hcm
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Submitted by theotherone2 on Thu, 05/07/2009 - 21:56

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I count 19 shows and no Wharf Rat. Maybe Shoreline?...
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Submitted by theotherone2 on Thu, 05/07/2009 - 22:17

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Phil and Friends: 50 times, Ratdog: 45 times, Other Ones: 12 times, The Dead: 1 time ♪♪♪ "I'll get up and fly away" ♪♪♪