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  • bluecrow
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    So . . . .

    I just realized that tomorrow is the 50th of International Amphitheater 7-25-74 Chicago, IL.

    Proceed accordingly.

    Edit: glad folks here appreciate the story - thank you friends. It was yet another (very) strange occurrence in the desert here and not even the only one that was GOGD related.

  • Oroborous
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    The goodness continues…

    Edit: thanks BC! That’s an great tale and being aaaaa, “memory challenged” lol, it was nice to refresh. Yes indeed, wonder what else might be “lost” out there?

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    6-20-80 Gans-Miller.25469

    Sounds pretty good, has potential to sound even better after being polished up.

  • icecrmcnkd
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    Grate story BC

    Wonder if there were other tapers who never released copies.

    Release the SBD Dave.

    Yes, I listened to the Dark Star>Slipknot theme twice.

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    Thanks BC

    For the taper story.
    Legendary indeed.
    Cheers

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    9/14/74 - Olympia Halle, Munich

    Oro on his ongoing trip through '74 had me revisit this overlooked show from Europe '74. (David Usborne matrix). Parts of the SBD are missing but don't be deterred, there's some great playing on this one!

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    7/25/74 tape story

    Obeah - here's an edited/slightly reworked version of what I posted on another forum years ago. I'd go for the GEMS SBD remaster (152924). Not as jammed out as some '74 but there is some really and truly, very fine, music here (sound of Oro's foot tapping.) The Dark Star jam is unlike any out there and I really really dig it.

    Ca. 1997/98 – I was living in a small desert town. First worked here summer of ’95 and it was here that I first learned of Jerry’s passing (and still here 25+ years later). Jim, a long time resident (moved away years ago) and fellow Deadhead (saw Vegas Ice Palace ’69 I think) mentioned that a friend had come through town and left a list of tapes he had to trade/share. The friend was a river runner out of Flagstaff, would be back through town in a week or so. Jim invited me to take a look at the list and see if there was anything I wanted. It was a short list – all that I remember at this point is that it had the International Amphitheatre show, 7/25/74, complete show, an audience rated at C-. The show was unknown to me and, as a favorite year and a Chicago boy at heart (born and raised north suburbs), I asked for that one.

    One night a little while later the river runner friend came back through town. I remember standing outside in the summer dark talking to him for maybe 10-20 minutes, he only stopped to drop off tapes. It turned out that he had taped the show himself and it was the only show he ever taped. A cheap deck with the microphones hanging over the balcony railing (IIRC). He had talked to Phil outside the back door before the show and Phil had big time dosed him. Said that Phil sat on a stool for part of the show. He got all wide-eyed with nostalgic awe when he recalled the Ship of Fools encore – clearly the song had been a major religious experience. I think he handed me his masters to make a copy (or maybe he just dropped off a copy?), saying he would pick them up from our mutual friend on the way back through town. Don’t recall his name and never saw him again.

    Listening to the tapes you felt like you were way in the back of a cavernous space. To me, C- was possibly a generous grade, but with a pair of cheap headphones (all my gear was cheap at the time) - listening in the dark in the middle of the high desert night - you could be there, and for a poor boy in the backwoods of tapes it was a cool listen. I dubbed a couple of copies and sent one to Jeff, a close friend, who was back in the Chicago area – at the time he was managing Dr. Wax (a chain of several used record/CD stores/Jeff also founded and ran a niche record label Quinnah Records) A little while later Jeff calls me, all excited. “Where did you get this?? This is the only known recording of this show currently in circulation!!!” Circulation was a relative term in this case. Turns out Jeff had reached out/was in contact with the gentlemen who were putting together the first Tapers Compendium and, connected as they were, they knew of no other recordings of this show. The Compendium folks wanted him to review the tapes/show for the Compendium, but in the end it was too late because the book had just gone into galley(?) and it was too much trouble to revise it. This is the only ’74 show not reviewed/completely missing from the first edition Tapers Compendium Vol I.

    A bunch of high-end traders contacted Jeff requesting copies. When Jeff asked one what his opinion of the tapes were, the gentleman replied that it was pretty rough and that basically it was for completists only, but of course it had a heretofore uncirculated Dark Star with a Slipknot tease, which was everything you needed to know right there. This may have been at the time the only uncirculated Dark Star post-1970. Another commented that he thought he knew the person who might have the soundboard reels (or copies of them) but that they were holding them close. The SBD recording finally entered public circulation a few years later and Dave Lemieux (I raise a toast, or two or three, or more, in his honor) has featured portions of this show a time or three, I think, in the Jam of the Week and/or the Tapers Section/and 30 days of the Dead. So the masters are in the vault. The audience has never been uploaded to the archive.

    It makes me smile that this show first resurfaced from the depths of time (relatively speaking) in this dusty, high desert, town.

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    1972 was some great concerts in some out-of-the way places

  • Oroborous
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    Rise and shine lil Pedro
    Bfast in bed wiff the GD

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    RIP Jerry Miller of Moby Grape

    Passed in Tacoma at 81

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Kiel Auditorium

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Just finished Hooteroll?, now started Side Trips - Garcia,Wales,Kahn,Vitt.

Roll away the dew

There is a glitch in the first few minutes of Franklin's

Itll be interesting to see how they patch that in the box set

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First time checking out the whoke shows from this run.
Of course I’ll need to fire up Go To Nassau later, haven’t heard that in too long!

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Mighty tasty

It has indeed been a long time since I heard GTN

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Love go to Nassau.

Man, we are due for some 1980 to be released. Will it ever happen again?

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Part of the soundtrack of my younger days with his 80s hits

"No one here gets out alive"

Indeed

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Family Dog

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Immediately makes me think of the first show “that got away”
Crotchfester 9/1/79. Greg Kihn and the Goodrats opened.

I was still only 16 so the rents were not gonna let me go “all the way to Rochester” (that’d have to wait a year) to do anything, let alone go with a bunch of known “drug addicts” lol But I did hear all about it from said DAs, including how the GoodRats gave out these little toy Rats (think Florida Panthers) as a promotion, which of course the unruly east coast Dead Heads, who had had enough warm up noise and wanted the Dead, began pelting the band with the Rats, literally forcing them off the stage!
“When you go down to deep Elem…the DH will put you on the rocks”
Now on one hand I’m sure it was hilarious, if you were there, but on the other hand kinda embarrassing. But that was unfortunately often the case when promoters picked poorly. As kind as DH mostly were, we weren’t always polite to openers. Another ugly one I recall was poor Joan Jet opening up for Bobby and the Midnights: booed her off…

Anyway, 4 winds Greg Khin

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5/16/80 of course!

Dammit PF, we went and checked out some GK tunes to refresh our old synapses, and now TOO and myself can’t get that GD ear crack from the Breakup song outta our heads ; ) lol

Why earcrack you say? Because its almost as addictive and damaging as crack!
Ok, Jerry’s 5/16 High Time might just erase it lol

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Waiting at Kidd Valley Burgers for my order

On the PA

Love Unlimited Orchestra
Love Theme

What a fantastic production

That wahwah pedal....

Feeling like a kid again

:)))

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...was wandering...

and all of a sudden; oh, yes 1974-05-25 UCSB outdoorstadium is where it's at

...like the wild geese in the west

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on a side note:
finished this weekend's reading assignment
"BEAR: The Life and Times of Augustus Owsley Stanley III"
highly recommended for even the casual HEAD,
and perhaps less of the embellishments than Mr. Scully's book

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You should follow that up with “Owsley and Me”

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8/19/80

a show that is truly release-worthy

44 years ago

wow

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Just played this Neil Young album. It and ‘Tonight’s the night’ alternate as my favourite NY studio album. Just to be tangentially political, I noticed the Democratic convention is in Chicago and it reminded me of someone I worked with many years ago. He flew into Chicago in 1968 to begin postdoctoral studies and was amazed/horrified to see so many heavily armed people about. Then he got to where he was staying and saw what was happening via the television. An interesting start to his time there.

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Jerry garcia's recording of Cigarettes and Coffee right now and more 90s JGB today, taking it easy.

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Again money out the window because of his whole-hearted, over-the-top recommendation of "BEAR: The Life and Times of Augustus Owsley Stanley III by Mr T, sorry meant uncle.

I'm an audio book man, so I got the audio book. Cost 15,000 bucks!! But apparently read by Owsley. Anyone know his voice and can verify when I get!

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Haven’t heard this sweetness in fo ev er!

It’s good Dennis…not sure it’s $15k good lol.

8/19/80: thanks for the tip PF. That show is on my current to do list, prolly in the next day or so. Look forward to it!

Good lord Colin, nothing like a good first impression!

Earcrack: got another dose today via some Macca hits.
Guys an Earcrack machine! Lol it started with TOO waking up with the outro to ‘Listen To What The Man Said’ the Wonder of it All part…out of nowhere, hasn’t heard it recently etc, bizarre, just woke up with that part loudly in her head?

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as always, I recommend you don't look at the set list ahead of time.

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9 19 90

Wow

Another great show

A second MSG box, please

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...get me day started with a little...you just gotta poke around...
1983-10-22 Carrier Dome Syracuse NY

...don't tell me this town ain't got no heart

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9/8/90

Sorry teach about the poor spelling, I missed school that day…cause I was peakin ; )

Edit: hey Joey, what’d ya think of those Richfields?

Dbl Edit: Aaaaa, Carrier dome shows, good shows, fun trips, awesome fully stocked rented bus first two years, unfortunately a terrible venue…

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Previously enjoyed 8/16 via GOBC, so onto 8/17…

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Has anyone been to Hulaween in Live Oak, Florida?

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Yes PF, 8/19/80 is mos def a fine 1980 offering!
Not the best recording, not the worst, but a fun show and great set list, thank goodness, these 1980 sets are very repetitive so getting burnt and thus really enjoyed this show for that alone! Really dug the post drumz sequence especially that sweet CAT, and Phil on the jam after, Foe Git a bout it!
In fact, Phil’s been killing it a lot this tour…go figure ; )

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1972...1st time listen on the archive; it's #139581...Berkeley Community Theater...
with Mr. Bill Graham intro and a Dark Star,
so without further delay,
I'm OFF...

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1977-06-04 Menke. Inglewood CA

Its good. :)

Edit: kind of like a one off show, even just looking at the setlist it seems like they really went all out for these people.

Great show - early on had Set II from a very fine audience source that seemed to have a bootleg lp 1st(?) generation in the lineage. Not sure what the original pull may be on the archive (been 15+ years since last listened to the cassette) but seemed to be from the balcony. Should a could a been at this run. Two friends chose better and experienced it. The night after (8/22) I think was Venetian Night - illuminated boats and much partying on the lake. Chris was raving about the run and I remember him recounting the beauty of that somewhat odd third night Set II. So the next day we were headed to Alpine for the first GD show at that unknown (to us) but eventually legendary venue in beautiful southern Wisconsin. My 4th show. Picked up our tics that morning at a small ticketmaster outlet in the northwest suburbs and away we went. Those were the days.

Right now listening to the Mason Taylor aud (131445), Set II - Rooster > China Cat Rider > I Know You Rider. I loved this sequence from the get go and right now it is every bit as crazy good as i remembered. An all time bluecrow favorite. Love that Bobby breaks out the return of Rooster for the Chicago audience. Excellent version. And a note perfect segue into a ripping China Cat > Rider. Those first notes of China Cat and the audience going crazy. Whole second set smokes - on the jam out of Estimated now. If the vault soundboard quality is there I would love to see this show released!!

edit - did not realize the Mason Taylor source is cut at Comes Time - gotta jump to another source.

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Chi CA go, Chi Ca go, so far so good, first set.
Perhaps a step back from the 19th?
Looks like I’ll have to switch to an Aud for part do…

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Hartford Civic Center