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  • Oroborous
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    True dat

    Absolutely no noise reduction ON THE RECORDING, but that doesn’t mean some kind of processing on the final release, and, it seemed like 4/12 sounded much different, especially in the frequency spectrum we’ve been discussing.
    There are other ways in mastering to treat noise beyond basic noise reduction, like, not your 80s tape deck Dolby…
    I’ve been looking at pics and some don’t seem to have overhead drum mics where others certainly do. But haven’t dug deep so don’t know dates that correspond to pics etc. Just wonder if that was something Betty was messing with as she’s known for her mic placement perhaps above all else…
    Also noticed JG moved into the center, and Bob to the left, (as per their stage orientation at the time) of the soundstage on maybe the 10th? Before that they were switched, and the 12 all kinds of things going on lol,
    Always fun to try and dissect things!

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    Noise redution?

    No where in the notes does it state any noise reduction was used in the reel recording of any of the shows in the box.

    Will be doing the 15th tomorrow!

    Going to have to listen to the 11th again as I thought they were a little out of sync...

  • Oroborous
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    4/12/78

    Previously, Only heard this one once, thought it was good but overshadowed by the 11, 15 and 16th…let’s see after proper sit down if it matches the hype…

    Think 4/11 was tops so far, but 4/6 seemed to stand out too. These shows are sneaky good. Meaning sometimes you have to wait for it. The dynamics are often impressive. Not freight train Dead like you might expect from this period, but often nice subtle build ups/peaks. You can tell their having fun, getting loose and digging the smaller venues.
    Really tasty when their all in sync etc, (sometimes the looseness is a tad much) and 4/11 is a good example of being synced up!
    And DG has been improving nicely as the tour has progressed and has some real moments here.
    That Sunrise is one of the most powerful I’ve heard, and some songs she’s carrying the lead vocals. Meaning on shared vocals, she is often the strongest most consistent, which allows J &B more latitude.
    And the sound is great on all so far, but I too will compare with 37, which I recall is the benchmark of this tour…

    I do understand 4winds “cymbal” comments. Don’t have torrents to compare, but they aren’t prevalently splashing all over so ?…
    It doesn’t seem like an issue to me, and probably wouldn’t notice it if I wasn’t trying to…guessing mastering, probably added some shimmer to the torrents versus some noise reduction, tape restoration, age etc, or, perhaps artifacts from different machines used to record copies from the masters, versus Bettys reel decks and masters…

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    4/14 set 2

    here we go! set 1 was okay! I like where set 2 is going...

    Samson oh yeah!! Lions Den for sure!! Growls...

    Music swinging!!

    The Natives are restless!

    That was fun!

    Love them while you can, for someday they'll be gone.

  • proudfoot
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    4 11 78

    When i first heard it back in later 80s I was amazed at the post drumz sequence. I didnt know they had done it.

    Nowadays its like "cool"
    Back then it was like "wow!"

    At the moment
    4 14 78 looks Like Rain (never one of my favorites)

    Due to holiday no need to go to work so plenny o' GD

    Yay!

  • icecrmcnkd
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    4-14-78

    I’m going in order and will do 4-15 next to see (hear) how it compares to the Box.

    I like 4-10 and 11 a lot, but they’re also burned into my synapses from having them on cassette and then CD-R.

  • proudfoot
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    this series of shows

    nothing has really caught fire for me (I am jumping around in the sequence)

    however

    4/14/78 before work today sounded hot.

    also:

    in the car I am listening to 10/8/89

    good stuff
    really good stuff

  • Oroborous
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    4/11/78

    Hoping it’s as good as I recall…
    4/10 was not, in fact, bit of a dog, perhaps worst so far?
    Not a bad show, just more inconsistent and several notable flubberies etc…
    Let’s find out ; )
    Onward!

  • 1stshow70878
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    4-8-78

    JAX - middle of 1st set.
    (edit - nice Estimated/Eyes in 2nd set)
    Still most impressed with 4-6-78 so far.
    Glad I got this box, I have skipped some.
    Cheers

    Recent listens:
    Fleetwood Mac - Future Games LP
    Teruo Nakamura - Manhattan Special LP (with Herbie Hancock)
    Pat Martino - Joyous Lake LP
    4-6-78 Tampa
    4-7-78 Hollywood

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    Not a sports fan at all, will watch super bowl and world series with group, but really don't care.

    I felt sorry for Pete Rose, I feel I heard a story about wife abusers being allowed into the hall of fame, but not Pete?

    On another note, I have a new favorite song. Maybe a bunch of you have heard of him, but I hadn't, Jelly Roll. He was on Saturday Night Live this weekend and did a tune called "Winning Streak". A search of "Jelly Roll - Winning Streak (Live on SNL)" will pull it up. It's a tune about a alcoholic going to his first AA meeting.

    One of the best refrain lines EVER

    I was so ashamed to be in this seat, til I met a man who was 20 years clean
    He said, 'Everybody here's felt the same defeat. Nobody walks through these doors on a winning streak.'

    Check it out. Hope you find it as good as I do.

    And, no, I've never had an addiction or been to any sort of meeting.

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Last 5:

Genesis - Selling England by the Pound
Pink Floyd - Peel/BBC 16 July 1970
Jimi Hendrix - NYE 1969 Fillmore East (some connection with England, I guess)
GD - Dave's Picks 2 7/31/74 (connection lost - wait I guess Sam Cutler was there)
Throwing Muses - Real Ramona (connection well and truly lost)

Next up:
Dave's Picks 20 12/9/81

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I think that’s right lol
Didn’t get the best listing in, but enough to appreciate more of this consistent 1990 greatness!

Oh yeah, 12/4 before, so another DHB wee!

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Jerryz voice is SHOT

Great music though

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Black Throated / Tom Thumbs / Deal
Rain > Eyes > Samba > Saint >
D/S > Wheel > Attics

especially that D/S > Wheel > Attics

Yep Oro - of course it still hurts ; )

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Yes tasty
Attics of My Life

Afternoon show

A 94 show I wish I could've attended is 6/26/94

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It’s weird, he sounds good on that sweet H/S/F, and the all of a sudden, somewhere in the first it’s fucked? Weird…

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I actually hit the skip button during Fire

His playing is fine

Who knows what kinds of germs touring bands are exposed to

In addition to THOSE

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12 3 79

My 16th birthday

90 miles southeast of where I was living

However, the bus was still a little over 2.5 years away from my stop

Edit: first two discs ok but not transcendent, at least this time around

Disc three? We will see...

Edit
Rest of show ok, not transcendent

Did not listen to 12/4/79 filler

Yet

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5/26/72
5/27/93
3/10/81
2/23/74

I haven't heard 5/26/72 all the way through for a long time

It'll be good to hear pre-hiatus GD again after 90% post-hiatus for the past year or so

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Re Jerry losing his voice - he was in England don't forget. Everybody has a cold here by November.

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Roy Buchanon "Livestock" 11/27/74
The Rolling Stones "Get yer ya-ya's out!" 11/27/69

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Listening to Bob F. Dylan

Highway 61 Revisited

Mixed feelings on BD movie

Hollywoodization is something I don't generally like

Bob is awesome

Along with the beautiful Playing - which, 3/4 of the way through, I picture as shimmering sunlight on a lily pond, with a hummingbird or dragonfly flitting about then lifting off - followed by the crowd's spontaneous, stunned reaction (!)
Of course, we all know the heart of the thing (3rd & 4th disk selections) from the E72 album ... Overall, for me at least, it's hard not to put this show either at or near the very tippy top (surely a Himalayan peak, K2?) on the grand quality of the playing and total emotional commitment, as the closer of one of the greatest tours in their history, etc.

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Bitches Brew

Miles Davis

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Earth and Sky

another long time favorite.

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Slice of Life - Live Solo

Slowly getting the feast together. A world of wonders indeed.

Consisting of a playlist of eclectic, immature, inappropriate, unknown, off the cuff quirky, Fun and otherwise not yer mamas Xmass mix of albums, set to auto DJ.
Oh, and whatever holiday jazz albums we have too!
Jazz to the World and Oscar Peterson being in constant rotation lol

So “shake your Christmas butt, until the crabby goes away…”

But first, need to walk on down the old valley road (to make room for leftovers)
Hope y’all are having a safe and enjoyable holidaze!

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back from a 4 month stay at the hospital, on the mend but weak as a kitten. Happy holidays to all.

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We were really starting to worry the bastards took ya out!
Rest up and play dead (I hear it’s good for what ails ya!)

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I’m watching the ‘Beatles 64’ documentary. I particularly liked the guy who managed to get his seat from Shea Stadium when it was being demolished so that it complemented his ticket stub for the concert. That’s what you call obsessive.

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4/27/85

Set one

Dave's

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5-23-72 last night.

The Lyceum vinyl Box is awesome.
And currently on sale.

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On something of a Blackberry Smoke jag - today, Live in Atlanta ('18) on pod while chopping wood (cherry!). For your cut-n-paste listening pleasure: youtube.com/watch?v=Jd48J7MzlWI&t=1652s

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(first album - 2004/2005 remaster with bonus tracks)

Needed an early Bird Song and decided to go back to the source. First listen with the new headphone amp and the Senn HD 650s. A desert island disc - stunningly beautiful!!

Kate_C.!! Long time I think - good to see you again!

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Nice choices lately....and, hey, it's got a Cumberland!!!!

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BLUECROW, how's the Senn's HD 650 treating you?

I have a pair of Audio-Technica that are very nice

I've seen mention of the Senn's on here and been tempted to try them

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Love 'em! Sound is superb. Very comfortable. Purchased in March on sale for $295 - replaced another pair of Senn's, can't remember which model - which I also really liked but the 650s are a whole new level in terms of sound, comfort, and build. A lot of my listening is off a Mac desktop and recently picked up an iFi ZenDAC3 headphone amp plus an iFi IPower2 5 volt power supply for the amp. Super happy.

I see that Senn website has them on sale for $310.

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Thanks man!!

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Was lucky to see Joan with The Dead during the 2003 shows at Red Rocks. Such a gorgeous voice and presence. Days Between that first show! Later in the run she traded verses with Bobby on Hard to Handle and it was awesome!

J918 - do it!

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Strange how we almost crossed paths.
I was at the 7-7-2003 The Dead @ Red Rocks. Called it my 25th anniversary show. Did a one day round trip from Montrose, including Crested Butte where my buddy lived. Phil asked us how many were here 25 years ago. Lots of hoots and hands up in answer.

Setlist: 1- Jam > Stranger > Baby Blue > She Said > Jam > Loser, Court of Paradise (meh), Cold Rain & Snow > Even So > Deal.
2- Jam > 'Til the Morning Comes > Jam > Candyman > Jam > Mason's Children > Jam > Piece of my Soul > Come Together > Drums/Space > W. LA Fadeaway > Sugaree, Sugar Mag. E: Box of Rain!
Joan was superb as was Jimmy H.
Have a burned copy of the CDs one could order on site after the show.
Cheers

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I've been whetting the palate with early/mid years of that - Then going all in with Winterland 2.23.74 next (extended by 'interpolating' so to speak, the 6.22.74 Jai Alai Fronton bonus disc in the middle to get the Playing, China/Rider, etc w/only repeat being Eyes) ... A very tasty sandwich!

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Last night, at The Paramount in Rutland, VT, Pat Metheny solo concert, on many different guitars through the evening. His twenty Grammy Awards only hints at the depth and breadth of his music. Primarily acoustic material first half, he pulled covers off several other instruments and a double bank of percussion a la Orchestrion period for the second half, as well sampling and looping parts to stack. Pat has not spoken about himself much at past concerts, shared some stories, though probably many of the folks in the audience long time fans, knew much of it. He spoke especially about Gary Burton and Charlie Haden. His interview with Rick Beato on utube is outstanding look into his works. He's been on tour in Europe this fall, I almost missed it when he scheduled a few shows up this way. Highly recommend catching any performances in the states later this winter into spring. Many thanks to a wonderful friend who made this possible, Pat, part of my musical fabric nearly fifty years, almost as long as the Dead. Next up, Mr. Sun does the Nutcracker at the National Gallery of Art, down the street that night, Mickey, Bobby and Billy are part of the honors at the KC.

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Forgot that the run overlapped with the 25th anniversary of the legendary July '78 shows. The first show was my favorite of the first 4 shows of the run (I think I headed home and missed the last show) but it was all sweet and good with that line up! I bought the cds for at least 3 of those - been a long while since I've spun any but really need to dig em out.

7/6/03

Set I - Jam > Scarlet > Fire > Good Lovin' > No More Do I, Queen Jane, Roses > Weather Report Suite

Set II - Jam > Cryptical > Jam > Days Between > He's Gone > St. Stephen > William Tell Bridge > D/S > Peggy O, Cryptical > Eleven > Bird Song > Other One > Music Never Stopped Encore: Samson and Delilah

edit - a Pat Metheny concert? - jelly - its tough for us living in the middle of "nowhere" when it comes to live music.

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The last great Dylan record. To me, the songs are so powerful I have to be careful when I listen to it, because they really carry me away and I get very emotional. "If You See Her, Say Hello" just kills me every time. For example. But there's a lot of fun stuff here, too, (Jack of Hearts cracks me up every time). And half the songs are goddam classics.

I've heard new born babies wail like a morning dove
And old men with broken teeth stranded without love
Do I understand your question, then, is it hopeless and forlorn?
Come in, she said, I'll give ya, shelter from the storm.

I mean, seriously. When Bob's on, he's just the best.

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Sounds good.
Treated myself to the Black Friday sale price.
Skipped getting 5-5-77 vinyl on Friday since I was able to get a copy of 5-22-77% vinyl a few weeks ago.

The scalpers are already at work with 5-5-77.

Note that according to the Real Gone website there are still 750 copies of DP3 vinyl that were held back for record stores and online retailers. Kind of lame since there are people who missed out when it went on sale and now the price will be higher.

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miss that guy around these parts ... Anyway, I LOVE how much of Keith's left hand you can hear in the DaP 42 2.23.74 (top notch) He's Gone Other One - Eyes sequence .... Also, LOVE the somewhat laid back & funky groove in the SUPER Eyes outro jam that follows: (aka Stronger Than Dirt, or Milkin' the Turkey). Magic !!!

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I also heard 4/29/71 first set

Wow what a great show

4/28/71 and 4/29/71 deserve full releases

To dream the impossible dream

GBtGD

S-W-B - Killer disc - gonna jump right in. (Edit - so very good!)

Keith Fan pretty much (completely?) stopped posting here but pretty darn sure it is him posting on the Steve Hoffman Music Forum "The Grateful Thread" under user name KeithGodchaux. Posted in the last week there re 11/30/73. Not in communication with him, just something I noticed.