Dave's Picks Volume 27: Boise State University Pavilion, Boise ID 9/02/83

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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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August 13, 2018 - 7:10am

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Dennis

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keithfan and dave

Agreed. BTW - I read somewhere Dave is pulling in 500k a year in this job, but he does have to pay for his own announcement videos, where he spares no expense!
August 13, 2018 - 7:09am

#602

KeithFan2112

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10/24/71

I went on a Dark Star binge the other night and listened to all of the 1971s. It had been a while since I listened to 10/24. Great overall show. Somehow, it doesn't sound like any of the material on Dave's Picks 22 and 26. Highly recommend. Jimbo's right, the picks don't come from suggestions posted here.... they come directly from me to Dave. This show came as a little bit of a surprise to me, but I immediately figured out what happened. What I said was, release that show from September '83 with Wang Dang Doodle and Help Slip Franklin. I meant the September 11th show, but there you have it, miscommunications will get you every time. Still a great show, so the good news is it's going to be back-to-back September 83 shows for Dave's Picks 27 and 28. I am also buying the annual subscription no matter what. I made the mistake in the early years of not subscribing. Dave has done an outstanding job in my humble opinion. I think if this selection process was left to a non dead head, we might really have something to complain about. Dave is one of us, and he always puts a hundred percent into the job. Long live the supreme leader.
August 13, 2018 - 7:00am

#603

Dennis

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I hate corpspeak

Mission statement? It's a Dead show, my only mission was to have a good time. 27 not your cup of tea, wait for 28. Like Jim said cost me 25 bucks. I know I've shoved more than 25 bucks up my nose and bet you a dollar a doughnut EVERYONE on this site has pissed 25 bucks away on something worse than this. Maybe it was that large popcorn and soda while at the movies (I always bring my own food and drink :-)).
August 13, 2018 - 6:21am

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Kayak Guy

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dreading

i never mentioned the latest Dave's or the past releases.the unworthy comment was for the entire Brent and Vince eras which many seem to think is unworthy of release because the SBDs are not as good as the Betty reels. my point is about future options for Dave and to release a show as a Dave's Pick means not getting the Plangent processing for the reels. this fact alone changes the mission as the Betty's were not part of the vault when Dave's series began. maybe Dave needs to set up a new Betty board exclusive series that comes out 2 or 3 times a year and gives them the ability to Plangent them before Normanization. there is no other outlet for release of the non reel SBDs for Rhino, no download series, no download strategy, and Dave's Picks is the place for releases that aren't up to commercial release standards. maybe they do need a new Caveat Emptor warning to remind people that its not only the returned Betty's that are potential choices before people subscribe.
August 13, 2018 - 4:02am

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daverock

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Bears Sonic Journals-Deadicated

Do you know if the new release of ABB, Fillmore East 1970 sounds much different from the original version that came out about 20 years ago?
August 13, 2018 - 1:33am

#606

simonrob

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The future

"The future is not what it used to be - and what's more, it never was." Can't remember who said that. Anybody know?
August 12, 2018 - 10:12pm

#607

JimInMD

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Influences

I think the point is release decisions are not made by what is posted on these boards. At least I have not see any correlation over the years. What we write here simply does not influence what Dave & Company decides to release. If sales decline.. or subscriptions don't meet expectations then... but I do see both VGuys and Kayak Guys points. A little sprinkle of the 80's (3 of 27) will not sink the soufflé. I did not take offense by the language used.. seemed pretty benign to me. Also, hopefully I won't have to re-listen to the seaside chat, but Dave is quoted as saying something similar to this is one of the best shows of the era, or any era for that matter.. somewhere in that video. Not that I agree with that - seems like hyperbole, but those are Dave's words. Nonetheless, it's out there. Not my favorite, but worth the $25 I paid. I still think DaP 13, 2/24/74 might just be my favorite Dave's Picks. I paid $25 for that one too. I'd call that a bargain. Not every release will be from the 70's.. people still complain about DaP 4, William and Mary 76. I still like that one.. funky, but not everyone's cup of tea. Got mine for $25. A bargain.
August 12, 2018 - 10:03pm

#608

Vguy72

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My Boise grade?....

B-. But that's on my scale. Results may vary. Peace.
August 12, 2018 - 9:49pm

#609

Vguy72

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I may have overstated my intention....

....and that's on me. My main point still stands however. The younger generation depends too much on what others think. People that they have never met or shook their hand. Look them in the eyes and such. It used to be easier. I guess I'm becoming the old guy who tells kids to get off my WiFi after all.
August 12, 2018 - 9:46pm

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dreading

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Vguy

Why on earth would people on a Grateful Dead site not talk about what we think influences the releases that are coming our way? And the whole message board concept is about the exchange of ideas pertaining to each release (in other words, "reacting" to one another). Are you saying that's taboo? "Grow a pair and either crank it or shelve it and stop worrying about everyone else"? What does that even mean? At face value, your words that appear are basically: "listen to it or don't listen to it but don't talk about it, and if you do talk about it, you're not a man and you need to grow a pair". And here you are reacting to what other people have written. Grow a pair I guess.

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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Re: Official Release Numbers

Jason, Icecream, Alvarhanso: Interesting. So...basically we need 84, and 93-95. I've been saying 84 for some time and I recall a lot of really crisp boards from back in the day floating about. But I think definitely 93 and 94/95, as well, are very underrated years. The top shows from those years are really excellent, and of a whole other nature. Garcia ballads (dirge-like), drums/space, etc. Billy talks about it in Deal, that whole "missing album" (much of it featured on disc 5 of SMR) really could have been their best. Not holding my breath on these for DP28: Thinking 79, 76, or 70.

just trying to be as funny as Vguy....

Why do chicken coops only have two doors?Because if they had four, they'd be chicken sedans. Ararar.......... Nope, Vguy's funnier.

getting excited

I've now listened to this release several times. Disc 2 is such a fun time and will probably get repeated playings especially when I'm in the car...or jacked up on caffeine. Otherwise I'm not sure when I'll revisit the rest of show (though as I've mentioned, I really do like the release). Starting to turn my attention to the box set coming out next month. Spent the morning listening to DaP 2 (7/31/74). I still cannot believe we're about to get 6 shows from two of the best years the band ever had. The last few years have just been a barrage of amazing (and in some cases legendary) releases all happening at lightning speed (at least compared to the past). After this one though, it's all gravy.

Warner Market...

This refund is for the following item(s): Item: Dave's Picks Vol. 20 CU Events Center, Boulder, Co. 12/9/81 Quantity: 1 ASIN: B07 Reason for refund: Item out of stock Well, that's a bummer considering I got a "shipped" notice stating it was arriving tomorrow.

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I think i'll take baba o

I think i'll take baba o reilly cover over the echosmith lol

ok folks, here's my last words of opinion on this release

I heard discs 1 & 2 today (so far) it's a strong show. not legendary, but strong and hot enough for a "three smiles up" rating. it sounds like classic 83 GD to me. yes, there is the splice in Eyes. Some other minor things here and there. I can live with that easily. I like this release a lot. I like that it is from the early 80s. more, Dave, please. release 6/10/73 and 11/19/72 first, and then more 80s.

Jerry Looks So Fucking Cool

in his sunglasses and dirty grey hair, sitting back and coolly strumming the Baba crash cords with I guess the Tiger guitar, that looks like the old Gibson SG. I would love a still of that (i.e. Shirdeep's video posted below) Weir looks hysterical doing his Townshend-esque jump and pseudo windmill, but I love him still. Who's guitar dude #3? Also looks ridiculous jumping like Townshend. But it's all good fun, they know they look silly. First Baba I heard was an Napster download with no TNK attached to it (probably edited out). I have no idea from where it hails, but it sounds like a AUD recording, and the place goes bonkers when Vince sings the opening verse.

I think these guys sum it up for all of us

KeithFan

I think it might be RFK '92. If it is then guitar guy #3 is Steve Miller. He opened the show & joined the boys during their set as well.:o)

Trainwrecked wins the "post of the day" prize

other topic: listen to 4/19/82. seriously. awesome stuff.

DP 27 Question

Folks, I'm trying to figure out if the recording/mixing quality of DP 27 is as marginal as most of my discs sound, or if perhaps I received some poorly "pressed" discs. The show is obviously great, but only song on all 3 discs that sounds like an "A" recording/mixing is the very last song, It's All Over Now, Baby Blue. This last song sounds fantastic, but most of the previous songs sound OK to marginal. Particularly, on Disc 1, Bobby's voice sounds like he was separated the band and was singing into a bad mic... or something like that. Anyone else experience this? I'll feel better is so. If not, I'll contact Dead.net to inquire about getting a replacement set. Thanks!

GeneLopez

Uh, no, there is nothing wrong with your discs (unless they have skips or won’t play), they were designed to sound like that. That’s what was in fashion in 1983. Put your seat back in it’s upright, locked position and hang up the phone. Do not call customer service (unless you actually have a defective disc that won’t play). Wait, maybe you should call customer service...... For more information on the special qualities of 1983 recordings just scroll down this page and take in all of the informative opinions.

@GeneLopez

Nope, back on the phone with customer support. You have to ask them for the rose-colored glasses they send with some of these sets. A lot of people think it sounds great.

That’s funny

Gene Lopez, is that a bit? Sort of amusing

Should I be embarrassed?

I like this recording. After the first track, things seem to sharpen up. This isn't the best, but it most certainly isn't the worst.

WarnerMarket

Have you folks realized that this Amazon account isn't legit?

green-colored glasses, not rose

:)))

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Warner Market??

Hey Ummmmmm...can you expand on your statement? Thanks!

Ummm....

...yeah, no. The "surplus" discs are coming from the returns department. In all likelihood, like we've already said, these are extras slated as replacements for defects. So, again as we've already suggested, they must be clearing house; and seem to have already cleared house. I was able to grab some of the DP, but had my order of Hampton box cancelled (sold out- as someone else here had for DP20). Re: Hampton cancellation, that makes sense, as I think when I ordered it said only "3" remaining.

Warner Market...

I took a shot, ordering Dave's 22 & 20. Scheduled to arrive today... they cancelled 20, so I'm interested to see what or if anything shows up.

The Worst

If this isn't the worst Dave's Pick release then what is?I've read a lot of posts on many other releases and have never seen so many people that think this is a king size turd. You have to work hard to justify and fool yourself into thinking this is great. I've given this 4 listens front to back now and still don't get it. Finally the last song was good. It's not even the sound quality, I can deal with that. It's the total lack of cohesiveness, horrible vocal harmonizing, and the guitars sounding like they're on different songs and tempos. This like defending your favorite restaurant even when the food has gone so downhill it's inedible.

or here's an idea...

if ya hate it so much why not stop listening to it?Pick something else and relax.

jrf68

Perfect idea and already executed on, will probably never leave the expanding row of releases ever again. I listened to it enough times to be sure I wasn't being overly critical.... I wasn't. This is the first release out of 27 that I've ever complained.

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PDH’s, Rainbows, Unicorns

Sounds like this could have been written last week. http://www.dead.net/features/blairs-blog/blair-s-golden-road-blog-rainb…

ah, Blue Velvet

creeeepy-ass flick

Re: Warner Market

It's definitely Warner. You can tell by because they seemingly don't have a solid grasp on the amount left in inventory. I find it all quite humorous.. at this point, it's a gift to those that didn't get them and now can at cost, so it's hard to be bitter about it all. But this is not a scam vendor. It will be interesting to see how many 30 trips are left/how long they stay on sale. These things have become impossible to get.

Dave's Picks 27 cassette

As seen on an ancient (1988) tape trader's list: 1983/09/02 - Boise ID, Pavilion, SBD - B+ --- What we really have here in this Dave's Picks 27 is a B+ (trader's sound quality rating) cassette that was painstakingly transformed into a three compact disc set by Jeffery Norman, supplied by Dave Lemieux.

"painstakingly transformed"....

....I'm not sure if that is praise or sarcasm. I like it. That's the most important factor to me. I would give it a solid B- though. Of course, that ancient review was before the discovery of Normanization.

Jablome

Heywood I hear what you're saying and I agree. This show is so very mediocre at best. Band is tight half the time and completely out of sync the rest. Audio is all over the place. It may be good for 83, but I can't think of an official release from the 70s that it's better than. I think it's a necessary step for the powers that be, to keep the guys who want 80s shows coming back, but fellas, perspective, it ain't great by a long stretch, and it's not in the same league of anything that's come before it. Except DaP 20. It's a far cry from the series mission statement. I'm fine with an 80s clunker every 8 - 12 releases since it keeps the machine moving.

9/24/83 Santa Cruz

worth a listenSpace > Uncle John's Band :)))

Dick's Picks 17

9/25/91avoided it for a long time finally gave it a proper listen H>S>F Roses > Dire Wolf all Disc 2 is great filler on disc three is 3/31/91 Eyes, 20+ minutes 9/26/91 would have been better, in my opinion, but this one's ok.

DP 17

Some of my earliest Grateful Dead collection consisted of a couple of tracks from Dicks Picks 17, Throwing Stones and the Mighty Quinn. At the time I was not yet a fully trained Jedi, and was cherry-picking songs from all of the available releases I had at my disposal. I loved throwing stones, especially the jam and solo, and of course I was a sucker for all of the great covers, so I downloaded the Mighty Quinn as well. Eventually I bought the whole thing, and quite frankly I love it. There's a smoothness to Vince's keyboards that I enjoy - thanks for the reminder Stoltzie, I think I'm going to put this on.

Just uploaded by LoloYodel....

https://youtu.be/uQhDxVi1KNY....but wait! There's more!!

Warner Market... Dave's Pick 22

Received in the mail yesterday, as advertised. Numbered 11834. Brand New in the wrapper. :-)

KF/DP 17

Dick's Picks 17 was one of my early purchases as well. I've always been a sucker for Jerry's anthemic guitar solo on Throwing Stones but on this version, Bruce's piano absolutely steals the show! Pretty solid '91 release as I recall. It's been a while since I've listened.

Daves 12

Anyone have an extra Dave's Picks 12 they want to sell? I have 25, 26, 27 to trade as well. PM me if so

completely agree!

I completely agree...came back to see what others were thinking. This is a first - albeit big - disappointment from Dave's Picks.

I agree with stoltzfus

9/26/91 was a better show to pick for Dick's Picks 17. Someday, and hopefully very soon, 9/26/91 will be released. But the fact was already established to hold back on some of the jem-of-a-show for later and not to release all the best shows first so later down the road there would be no more great-to-excellent shows to see official release. The only parts of Dicks 17 I listen to anymore is the Help> Slip> Franklin's opener and the 2nd disc: Victim> Crazy> PITB> Terrapin> "Boston Clam Jam" Drums> Space. The Drums> Space really is neat when you're stuck in slow traffic. Most, if not all of my listening of music is done when I'm driving my car. I am totally grateful that this show was released.

Like Phish or not....

.... their light show is top notchhttps://youtu.be/XdnokZ_vnlM Sploosh!!

Bob Wier and Wolf Bros

It looks like these verified fan presales are selling out fast. Arlington Theatre in Santa Barbara sold out in 15 minutes, but there are a couple of VIP seats left.

Clunker? No 70's shows worse?

Not even close. This is a nice release and it sounds fine. Now April 24, 1978 aka DaP 7, I might call a clunker. Never been a fan of that show, the sound of it or the performances. When quoting the "Bee Gee's Saturday Night Fever" during the "cowboy songs" is the big highlight, it's not a good show. In contrast, Jerry's playing on 9/3/82 far surpasses the dredge from 4/24/78. The show from 2 days prior, 4/22/78 (DaP 15) on the other hand, is a great show and far better.

Ears

Wash your ears with soap, it helps.

80s Dead

So uneven. A great time was had by all, however. You didn't "have to be there", but it certainly helps contextualize some of the awful GD archival product we occasionally hear.

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see you one BF, raise you another

your clip reminds me of David Byrne and the TH how 'bout this, sensual, hypnotic and much older https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdWjYuwTTrU

Mission from Gahd

Working on another HD gift for a member of this board who contacted me for "more shows". I love being able to pay forward the kindness I've been blessed by from the good folks here. Sir, if you read this post please check your PMs. 76 is loaded, I await your instruction.

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