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    "The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

    And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

    Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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  • Oroborous
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    Robots, dropouts, AUD’s, 28 and 77. DaP 2018
    I am not a robot....or am I??.....ancient alien theorists say YES!! Recent episode speculates that due to new DNA info found theorist believe we were injected long ago by aliens so that basically we’ve become organic robots! Woooooo- spooky lol DROPOUTS remeber folks, any recording is susceptible to dropouts anytime a musician adjusts their volume, especially if the person responsible for the recording is looking after other responsibilities etc. This could be especially true with WOS shows as there was no house mix at all, everything was controlled on stage by the band.....i.e., if say Jerry felt he was too loud and turned down, and no one adjusted tape levels accordingly, he would sound too low on the tape.... AUDS Also, as some have mentioned, drums and vocals (or other “acoustic”) instruments are often mixed louder than guitars that are often already significantly amplified. This is why as KG and others have suggested that matrix or very good AUD recordings can sound much more lifelike or “real” than soundboards..... PREDICTIONS 28: will repeat my predictions from months ago.... 28- will be something from 69-71, but not something that might end up as full treatment box shows...this era is definetly due, and most people like this era so it plays to the masses to end the year/subscription on a high note.... 29- will be 76. This year is also overdue, but it’s perhaps not as popular for some folks. Mellow dead for the winter doldrums.. Of course these too could get flipped so the 69-71 would be the new year/script carrot...in fact I think that makes more sense; 76 for 28 and a 69-71 for 29. 76 might be too divisive for some? 30: 79 is also overdue and gets enough mention here that the mob would not lynch ole Dave and CO. Don’t know the catalog well enough to pick informatively, but personally I think some combination of 1/10/79 and 1/20/79 would make a great spring/bonus release. Last Steve and Dark Stars for a while, as well as some other great nuggets. 1/20 has no Donna so has that historic/different variable. 31: some 91 or other post Brent 90s. (Since there has been a lot of 90 already).Another era that is due and has some great shows! Wild card could be some 89 that’s not multi-box worthy? Of course more 72 is always in play.... 32: will return to one of the BIG? Years or perhaps 69-71 or 91 if not covered earlier as these are certainly due. Wild cards any of the above except 79. I don’t think they would use something possibly divisive for the end of the year. Time will tell and as ole Jim says “I reserve the right to be comepletly wrong” ; )) 77; I know there is a rabid vocal majority that can’t get enough, but for THE REST OF US enough for a while...No offense meant to anyone or their personal tastes, but imho there are a significant number of us that would like to gather a well rounded collection of good shows, that sound decent. They all don’t have to be top shelf (where mama hides the cookies!) multi-trac pristine....MANY of us love ALL years worts and all. Just throwing it out there, no need to tell me how wrong I am and other negative condescension. We’ve all heard it enough ad nauseam! Like going in about fourwindsblow’s mere suggestion of a summer 85 box. To some, we like the dangerous, dirty dead. No one seems to complain about 60s stuff where they sometimes go for it but miss etc. and there are plenty of bad vocals (from all eras!) Some us of feel 85 was similar, that does not make us WRONG, just different than YOU! And like Jim said, Jerry’s voice gained a deep character that a 20 something doesn’t necessarily have. Sometimes it was painful, but some would say something’s actually sounded deeper and more emotional as his voice aged. This is why ALL eras are worth checking out!! You can just listen to something else if you don’t like certain eras. You don’t have to be negative and cut others down. Some asked how we felt about this years releases....I think they were all at least good. Know the 77 is not some folks top pick, but for a 77 I really liked that show. Personally liked the 71s better than last years (a little to white bread). I liked the 83 worts and all because it was something different and was from the year I was finally able to do more than just one off local type shows. Time will tell about 28 but I’m sure as usual Dave will not let us down. I agree though with KG that there should be different tiers or what not for releases. I.e., - Super premium Betty Boards etc, that they could charge more for to cover extra expenses and help fund other, less exconomicalky viable releases like - Doctored matrix and/or AUDs from 80s/90s. Low budget packaging/costs sort of like Dicks or Road trips, or even more so. Stuff that will never be used for Boxes etc. just spit em out so those that want can get something more than the same old stuff...Could do more frequently due to less costs/production etc - Continue Dave’s with his niche.. - Boxes: of course keep the big beautiful stuff coming aka PNW, E72, 69, 90, 89 etc. Don’t see why they couldn’t do this? Obviously there is currently demand, and as I’ve said before, they could choose/schedule run numbers AFTER they receive pre-order funds to maintain costs. You get 10,000 pre orders run that plus a few for late comers. Everybody wins....Big boxes and/or premium releases could still be “numbered”. That is All! Have a Grateful Day!
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    my grail show for 1991
    it' s only really a 2 disker, but with a little related filler to add the Playin they started the night before and then teased the Dark Star right before the Drums, it makes a nice 3 disk set. April 1, 1991 Greensboro Coliseum - Greensboro, NC SBD -> PCM Master CD1 Set 1: d1t01 - Jack Straw d1t02 - Peggy-O d1t03 - It's All Over Now d1t04 - Candyman d1t05 - Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues d1t06 - Picasso Moon d1t07 - Bird Song CD2 Set 2: d1t08 - China Cat Sunflower -> d1t09 - I Know You Rider d2t01 - Looks Like Rain disk 2 filler to finish off 3/31/91 2nd set from Dick's Pick 17 3. Playin' In The Band > (15:09) 4. Drums > (4:37) 1. Space > (15:20) small splice at 1:46 2. The Wheel > (5:41) 3. Around & Around > (7:51) 4. Johnny B. Goode (5:13) 5. Knockin' On Heaven's Door (8:40) CD3 d2t02 - Dark Star -> d2t03 - Drums -> d2t04 - Space -> d2t05 - Dark Star -> d2t06 - Playing reprise -> d2t07 - Black Peter -> d2t08 - Turn On Your Lovelight d2t09 - It's All Over Now, Baby Blue
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    91 DATs
    I like the way some of those DATs sound. I wonder why we have seen relatively few shows released from this period. I like the sound quality of the Cal Expo and Shorelines shows from the Spring of '91. Cal expo is sans Hornsby though.. The Boston shows are really good, I am partial to 5/10/91 too but keep in mind I am a big Desolation Row fiend.. which I realize is not everyone's cup of tea. Still.. good point on 1991, we really should have seen a few more shows released from this period, some are quite good.
  • Kayak Guy
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    speculation for 28
    based on the other 2018 choices there is one noticeable absence in the set lists, Dark Star.to close out the year and boost interest in next year there should be a Dark Star on what ever they announce. either a Pigpen or Hornsby era one would be nice. given my lack of enthusiasm for non Plangent processed reels, i would hope for a cassette only Bear tape or one of the DATs from the 1991 tour. like this anniversary show from 27 years ago today. Boston Garden on 1991-09-26 https://archive.org/details/gd1991-09-26.sbd.miller.95534.sbeok.flac16 i wish they would stop wasting the recently returned reels on non Plangent processed releases like this series.
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    Possible Dave's Picks 28
    My guess for DaP28: 6/22/76 Tower Theatre Upper Darby, PA (near Philly)Been there, done that, its one of my favorites.
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    Poor Sound Quality
    Please help me understand how recordings from 1969 sound clear and pristine while recordings from the early 80's, such as DP27, sound horrible. Very disappointed in DP27. Thanks.
  • outpost
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    The Ark and Tea Party shows would make a fantastic box, to compliment the Fillmore Box. Much too good to be diluted as a DaP. Come on ... be bold !
  • novembereleven
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    Enjoyed Mr. Jack Straw showing his work for the next pick
    Unfortunately the only ‘76 show I’d be really jazzed about is the 7-18-76. But that isn’t likely to happen as it is a multitrack recording that was used on the King Biscuit Flower Hour. So Dave said when the 7-17-76 show was released, that this excludes it from his show options. Such an epic show, certainly in my all time Top 20, in a year that rarely excites me too much.
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    I am going with either 79, 80 or 91 as DaP 28 and either fall '72 or fall '71 as DaP 20 to kick off next year's subscription effort. Note: This guess is knowingly incorrect. I have the absolute worst track record at dead.net for sniffing out the next release.
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    Any chance the returned reels would include the missing tape from 10-15-76? All I've heard from the end of that show is from an AUD source. It would be great if they found tapes from 2-27-77 or 6-4-77, too but chances are fewer that will happen. How about 2-6-79 Tulsa just for curiosity's sake, or more of Carbondale '79 (again, just for curiosity's sake). Speaking of '76, DP 33 might just be the most underrated from that series. Two complete shows in 1 release. That used to be nice and would happen more often: DP 20, 25, 29...
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"The Grateful Dead picked up their instruments and hit the first note with perfection. They never missed a note for the next three and one-half hours. People followed the flow of the tunes. Down on the floor in front of the stage was a sea of heads keeping time with the music. No one sat still. No one, except the youngsters behind us sat still. They were still and stunned." - The Power County Press

And what a stunner it was, that show at the Boise State University Pavilion in Boise, ID on September 2, 1983. Dave's Picks Volume 27 contains every stitch of music from this mid-80s show (our first in this series), one that's as good as any other in Grateful Dead history. When the Dead were on, they were ON! Straight out the gate with a definitive take on the old standard "Wang Dang Doodle," the band swiftly switches back to a setlist of yore, firing off 70s staples like "Jack Straw" and "Brown-Eyed Women" and wrapping things up with a terrific trio of "Big Railroad Blues"/"Looks Like Rain"/"Deal" (don't you let that epic guitar solo go down without you). Primed for the second set, they tackle the complexities of "Help>Slipknot!>Franklin's" with heart and ease. It's clear there will be no stopping their flow - Bobby and Brent hanging in for a fantastic pre-Drums "Jam" and Jerry and Bobby in the zone on a not-to-be-missed melodic "Space." Not a skipper in the whole lot!

Dave's Picks Volume 27 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually-numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

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I don't care who knows it: I think think Spring 91, Spring 92 and late '93 are awesome periods.
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once in a blue moon i'll put Ween's 12 Country Golden Greats on and laugh...and laugh.. particularly Fluffy the most
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I know next to nothing about Spring 92 (Deer Creek comes to mind...had a tape that played fast of that show) 6/28/92, I believe. 91 and 93 I know a bit of you like what you like. and 91 and 93 have shows that are pleasing to my ears.
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"IN Order to save his love for Grateful Dead...he had to listen to Post Brent" Terrapin Moon in Terrapin Moon: Post Brent Hero in theaters this fall.
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After 32 days in transit my copy has finally arrived. The only thing I don't like about living in Australia is how long it takes for my Dave's Picks to arrive. (And why it goes through Switzerland is beyond me.) So for the last month I've been reading all the comments and was worried this was going to be a horrible release. For many years I've notice Deadheads are some of the pickiest most critical people ever. I've only listened to the first cd but it's exactly what I'd expect from a early 80's recording. It doesn't sound as good as other releases, but that doesn't bother me. From what Dave has said about the 80's shows in the vault and from what was released on Thirty Trips this show is as good as it gets for this time period. I want everything that's released and for me everything has been an upgrade to any copy I might have or have had. Keep em coming! Now why is it when my sister sends me a package from Toledo Ohio it takes a week/two before it arrives, yet my Dave's are now taking 30 plus days? How about for next years oversea's subscriptions their be an option for expedited international shipping? And before everyone points out the hows and whys products are shipped, trust me I'm well versed in the transport/logistic world. Finally for Vguy.... A neutron walks into a bar and asks "How much for a beer?" The bartender says "For you? No charge."
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I gave this a second listen. and the second listen went from "its ok" to "this will be in high rotation" this gives me hope for 83 shows. I listened to 10/30/83 and it just about ruined me for the Dead for awhile. shitty tape. this however has many a gem: the wang dang doodle I disagree I heard better ones in the fall '91 east coast shows. loved the jack straw, They Love Each Other, Brown Eyed Women, New Mingle Wood Blues, Love the Big Railroad Blues w/ the extended jam, Looks Like Rain, Help>Slip>Franklin's, Estimated Prophet, The Eyes Of World even if it had a cut in it I didn't notice cuz it was that good for me, Loved the Space with the jerry and weir interplay, solid Goin' Down, great Black Peter and Baby Blue. the mix it aint perfect. but I can hear everyone at least most through out which is what I look for in decent tape quality.
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You sound as though you know what you are talking about...but I would worry if they changed the shipping arrangements. For the first few years with Dave's Picks, I had to pay a lot of additional costs to the postman on delivery of the goodies. For the last few years, though, there don't seem to be any additional charges. The Pick arrives many weeks after everyone elses-I am in England-but I don't mind if it shaves a few pounds off the cost. You're proposal might still cut costs and be quicker, of course.
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I LOVE me some Ween, and Phish is okay on their best nights but this is not the Jambands board. Dont wan to sound rude but its one thing to keep bringing up off-topics like politics, music listens etc., but the constant posting of easily findable non-GD Youtube videos, setlists of old Phish shows and upcoming info about whatever is your local area for shows is getting cumbersome. Ignore my greying gripes if you want ,I'll just scroll through it all but the increase in the amount of posts the last few months has been tedious. And what? Can't even hear the tape cut in Eyes cause it was that good for you?!? WTF kinda hyperbole is that, I LIKE this show too but come on..... This board is getting more and more zealous about this release everyday. No one's been switching to a low-protein diet, buying matching tracksuits and black Nikes have they? I JUST NOW, realized...that this show...is the key to traveling to Alpha Centauri before the alien overlords come to bring us back home as sex slaves, ewwww.
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...to the Era of Irritation: "is getting cumbersome" "has been tedious" Such low emotional thresholds these days. Szell in the PObox. Red, Starless & Sailor's boxes arrived this weekend; unopened on the dining room table. Vail is lovely in Summer, but this (business) trip got to end. Notable nature encounters: two days, two trail runs, two uncomfortably large diamondbacks that brooked no reservation at expressing their dispeasure with my proximity. Not the stuff for weak sphincters or bladders, which reminds me of a thought I'd had on #27 that will have to wait as the call for 0800 conference was just issued!
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I'll shut up from here on out.
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no, it's not my personal board. but let the thing flow and keep it open, I say. I scroll past the things I am not interested in. I do notice the splice in Eyes. pretty jarring. I recall (tell us more, grampa) tapes that had horrific cuts in them. i just shrugged and kept listening. the occasional tear did happen though. "The sun will shine in my ba-"\/\/BLURGLESHUF\/\/"-northbound train" 4/7/71 has a nasty, as does 2/18/71
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@ direwulf - not so much an old guy gripe, more an aversion to trolls I suspect. Attempts to transfer the entire contents of YouTube onto this site, along with all sorts of other unrelated detritus starts to look more like the actions of a troll, or to be more precise 2 trolls. I guess it is just something we will have to learn to live with and ignore. Subtle hints have had no effect so far. Possibly they cannot read or write as they only ever seen to copy/paste. Naturally everyone is free to post what they want here, but some things just become irritating after a while.
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Guilty as charged.. Is 24 hours of harsh self-flogging penalty enough? So long as I don't have to switch to decaf.. all should be ok.
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I also like the variety of topics, but if everybody here starts posting YouTube clips of their favorite bands, this board will become a hot mess!
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9.2.83 ~ Boise 7.12.89 ~ Washington DC Smoking Hot !! Dave's Picks Disc 2 is primo stuff , desert island dead for fans of this lineup. Help on the Way Slipknot Franklin's Tower Estimated Prophet Eyes of the World great finish to Franklin's Tower with very smooth turn into Estimated Prophet question about the Jerry vocals on Help On the Way ? was there any microphone equipment issues or issues with the tape , or was it just straight flubbsville ? Dave L. send out a primo "Brokedown Palace" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cQkdaHm2FE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJXi5QhTIHc
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I have no interest in going, but how come nobody here is discussing the recently announced D&C Mexico shows?
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if lack of money was not a factor i would go. In 2018 i saw 10 shows Dead and Co played, payed a total of $40 dollars to get in. One miracle was part of the 10. last summer 2017 i saw at least 7 Dead and Co shows, paid approximately $150 to get in to them all, no miracles. for the asking price to Mexico a couple thousand $$, some could stay 3 months in a foreign country and hit multiple locations compared to less than a week in a similar location i would bet the band throws a bone to the folks that cannot travel international and plays a few shows in Florida again after Mexico dates, late Jan or early Feb 2019
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We have never had to pay extra down under but that may have changed. It used to be anything under $1000 was GST free but as of July 1st this year, GST is required for everything regardless of price. The only stipulation is the company selling must do at least $75000 worth of business in Oz annually, otherwise GST is not required. As a result we can no longer order from amazon with an Aussie address, we must use Amazon Australia, and most eBay transactions that are outside of Oz now have an extra "import charge" estimate based on price. I'd have items delivered to my relatives in the U.S. and then shipped to me, but the price of international shipping is cost prohibitive, and the Aussie dollar is expected to drop against the greenback so it will become even less affordable soon. I'd hate to pay for shipping twice, and with subscription I'd have free shipping to a U.S. address, but then would have 4 shipping charges to Oz. (That would be nearly another subscription for shipping charges.) At any rate I've learned to be patient waiting on my Dead items. My next bout will be when the Pacific box ships. And that was ordered prior to July so am curious if it will be flagged for GST upon entry to the country.
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Import duty, GST, VAT, BTW, whatever, these various taxes on imported products are levied in most countries. What varies is the threshold above which the tax is applied. Daverock stated that recently he hasn't had to pay any such tax. Neither have I, but the reason has nothing to do with customs or tax officials. It has to do with the fact that since Warner have taken over the sales and shipping operation, they have stated a value of $1 on the customs declaration that is obligatory on international shipments. This may seem just fine - nobody has to pay import duties and taxes on Dave's Picks (most overseas customers didn't anyway due to the comparativeley low value of the series, i.e. less than $30). The problem arises with box sets and other large and high-value product. When my copy of Get Shown The Light arrived at customs with a value of $1 stated on the customs declaration, they quite correctly smelled a rat and would not release it until I had sent proof of the cost of the item. They then sent me a tax bill which had to be paid before the order could be delivered. I eventually received my order weeks after it had reached customs. I hope this situation does not repeat itself with the Pacific Northwest box, but I have made copies of the relevant documents (order, PayPal statement etc.) so I am ready if the same does occur. One can fool some of the customs officers some of the time but you cannot fool all of them all of the time. Or something like that.
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Ok, you made your point.. but the rest of us have to suffer through this GIF too. Come on man.. give is a little break??? Please??? Edit it out.. pretty please??. As for Doodies, if I watch that bob saget GIF one more time, I am liable to doodie my pants. Sorry to see you guys have to pay customs tax just to get some great music.. but I would be right there with you if I had to. GD music is like gas to me.. I hate to pay for it, but when I really need to get somewhere.. I regretfully fill up the tank and when winter hits.. I fill up the tank before the first big snow.
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"ERR"tried again "ERR" tried 10/21/83 "ERR" tried again "ERR" Cartman sez "GAHDAHMITT!!" tried Dave's Picks 3 (10/22 and 21/71) works like a charm
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lol appropriate typo in this context irritable bowel, you mean? the pink in the GIF should be enough Pepto Bismol to help you out
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Kyle HarmonTerrapin Moon Shirdeep Same person, 3 different user names. At this point, you aren’t going to convert anybody to Phish. Try for a younger crowd.
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....I was converted in 1994. I don't need daily reminders either. But it doesn't really bother me. I just scroll on by, like a steam locomotive, rolling down the track....Choo Choo
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dead heads that hate phish are starting to go the way of the dinosaur. I won't be having to hear about it for too much longer.
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You'll be hearing it for a long fucking time, son. To even begin to insinuate - if I read you correctly - that Dead fans who aren't into Fish are going the way of the dinosaur any time soon is ridiculously short-sighted. I went to a few shows. Red Rocks. McNichols. They tended to cover the Stones' "Loving Cup" at most of the shows I saw. Trey did wail his ass off. They're very talented. They stepped into the void created by Garcia's death, and gave to many a new meaning in their life. I wasn't one of those. Fare Thee Well was a beautiful moment, but it lacked spark, particularly in the lead guitar department. This has all been rehashed a thousand times. To me, "You Enjoy Myself" and "David Bowie" off the first record are the best things they ever did. They're ok. There is a lot of cultural crossover, particularly with the younger crowd between the bands, but to even consider that their legacy is remotely on the level of the Grateful Dead is ludicrous. Like what you like, but don't get so far out of line that I have to slap you, son.
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Bye Bye content deficient, empty, hate filled, trolling posts?
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and other adolescent humor....Dude, too funny, reminds me of the old standbys in these parts...so without further ado, for Vguy! 1) what do you call a snowboarder who just broke up with his girlfriend? ........HOMELESS! 2) How does a snowboarder introduce himself? ....Sorry Dude! 3) How many ski instructors does it take to screw in a lightbulb? ....3, one to screw in the light, and two cheer “nice turns!” Oh, and before you cupcakes get yer panties all in a bind, I skied for over 30 years, then switched to the other side for like 15, so I can shit talk like Jim Lehey about all that! ; ) Not knowledgeable enough about Phish to have a objective opinion except to say, say what you want about musicianship etc, but the one thing they can’t even begin to come close to is Mr Robert fuggin Hunter bitches! No, STFU, don’t even go there cause there is no there! Great jams, good playing, supposedly good scene, no Hunter! No disrespect, hell try and think of the GOGD without Hunter? No can do mi amigos, so put that shizzle in Jim’s irritable bowl and smoke it!
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