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    Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.

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    Welcome Jimmy & Joe.
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    I discovered the "Vineyard" during the 30Days promo. Thanks to all the people who have contributed to this process and continue to do so. As I learn this process, please don't hesitate to send me PM with your comments or suggestions. I look forward to making my collection of shows available to others and picking up some great new music. Best Wishes to All and THANK YOU!! Jimmy
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    Hey there. Like zep I also truly appreciate all the kind heads that are seeding and vining here. I created a nice spreadsheet for my vines and will not let anyone down! Thanks again to all in the vineyard. You all rock! Joe (TheNuthatch)
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    thank you badger!!!
    much appreciated!
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    Thanks cosmicbadger.
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    New Vindex Dec 9 2010
    Just posted http://www.dead.net/forum/vindex 837 shows now vined Sorry it took so long.
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    1 of the new guys here - actually first logged on to this site a couple years ago - just for the info at first. Been getting the dead.net emails for quite some time - but had to register to download the November goodies (thought I had already registered in the past). Well aware of the work that so many have put in and very appreciative! Thanks for the welcome. Wanted to pace myself - but the first few I signed up for seemed to be a month or more away - plus its kinda like the kid in the candy store, right. rest assured that I will be one of the responsible parties - and will post updates as has been asked of me. Thanks to all -zep. (just an online nickname based on my email addy)
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    Welcome to the Vineyard, a truly wonderful place. I echo JSFC's sentiments, but would add that it might be wise to send a pm before forwarding a vine. This helps to ensure that the next person is still active and checking his/her messages. Unfortunately, some people come to the site, sign up for a number of vines, and then disappear from the site with a load of vines never to be heard from again. Peace, "That path is for, your steps alone."
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    Signing up for many vines at once. First of all welcome to the vineyard! Second, from experience, it is really easy to get overwhelmed when 2-3 vines a day start hitting your mail box. Just a very friendly heads up! We have gone to great lengths to re-seed all the vines that have been lost in the recent months and it would be extremely sad to lose all these again. Also please remember that communication is our best tool here!! If issues arise just post so that we know the vines are still alive and where they are. Thanks and enjoy all the music!! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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    once you go "flac," you never go back. I copy the flac dvds for archive storage and then burn CDRs off and on as time permits. I have not heard from birdsongNJ.
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Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.
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Thanks Marty.... I think I shall give that a try! Your requests went in the mail today BTW.... Raymond
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In my opinion I have not heard such a remarkable difference between 24 and 16 that I want to go through all that trouble. I just want to simply pop a CD into my boombox, actually mainly into the car stereo. Has anyone tried converting to MP3 for iPod use? Just wondering, suppose I could give it a try.. "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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I play the 24 bit through an upgraded set of computer speakers straight from Win Media Player.... and on some files there is a significant upgrade.... Can't wait to try it out on the home theater system....Thanks. Raymond
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Of putting 24 bit on CD right? "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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no way as far as I know.... Raymond
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Here is some Yes that I have . Any interest ? GET DOWN! June 19, 1976 (Colt Park - Hartford, Connecticut) Yes Seattle Center Coliseum Seattle, WA September 18, 1977 (first of two nights) Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe 1989-08-19 Pine Knob Music Theater-Clarkston, Michigan The Spectrum Philadelphia, PA August 26, 1994 YES "Revealing Science of San Diego" Civic Theater San Diego, California, USA December 9, 1997 MUSICAL RAINBOWS August 15, 1977 (The Civic Center - Providence, Rhode Island) Yes 1991-06-29 Wembley London, UK "Say Yes" Remaster Chronicle Pavilion, Concord USA "Legendary Works" 2000-06-21 YES DATE: 11 December 1974 LOCATION: Boston, Massachusetts, USA Yes-Yestower From Silver Disc Yes-Yestower YT1196 > recorded live at Tower Records on Hollywood Sunset Strip, Los Angeles, November, 27th 1996 *** Clean***Sober***Proud***
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I'd be interested in the 70's stuff. But if you have it in SHN/FLAC and want to vine the whole shebang, feel free, and I will just copy what I want. Wait a second, I'm on vine hiatus, what am I doing?!?!?! BTW, listening to Led Zeppelin 2/12/75 right now, an amazing MTX, excellent show. Man, the No Quarters from this tour are amazing. And the 34 min Dazed & Confused was not none too shabby either.
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To Yes. That would be really cool. "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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A couple of fellow vinners and I have been messing around with sending each other tape friendly music through torrents. We were looking for a cheaper alternative than trading DVD's with each other. So far we have just been e-mailing each other links, which works but I would like to try some other experiments. Anyone interested PM me and I will elaborate more.
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YesMadison Square Garden New York City February 18, 1974 Tracks: Introduction of the "new album" The Revealing Science of God The Remembering The Ancient Ritual I will put something together soon . stay tuned !! I am also working on some things for Dr zevon as he is haveing some problemes right now and doe`snt have much time for the vines , I will put together 77 lossless pt 3 and send to him to keep . If anyone else wants to send him anything let me know so we don`t send him doubles. *** Clean***Sober***Proud***
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I noticed JSFC posted about the slow vine response here latley . I don`t know whats going on but I have like a ton of stuff I would love to vine out but I think I`m going to wait until things pick up around here . I wonder whats going on , maybe folks are on early summer vacations or something , it`s kind of odd . *** Clean***Sober***Proud***
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The JGB 1981 vine still just blows me away. Not one hit. Anyways the community has dwindled down to just a handful of us. I hope it is not because the trend has kind of gotten away from one show on wav format to multi shows on flac? In my mind it takes as long to rip one wav format show as it does to copy multiple shows in flac format. I am a completeist though - I want it all so I'm guessing that's not how everyone else thinks. Stuman - what other trading sites are out there becasue I like doing this but it has been way too slow here. Besides I am signed up for like 15 vines and at least 8 or 9 of them are officially dead, that's another annoying aspect of this site. Plus no one seems willing to re-seed and it feels like this community has dissolved. It's too bad because I love it here, and I am with you stuman I have a ton of stuff I was getting ready to vine but am putting it on hold, it's not worth burning all those dvd's just to have the vine die after 2 people. I know Lopezz, stuman and raymond have been doing the torrent sharing. I'd be really interested in joining that community although most of what I have you all probably already have - but I am sure not everything!! Please let me know if there are other ways we can trade?? I am still here and willing!! "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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Well I use , shn/flac.net or commonly known as losslesslegs they have a vine systme that seems to move a little faster and folks are more willing to re-seed dead vines. .The Traders Den also has a vine systme but I have not used it yet . Also Deadhook has a vine systme but you need to be a member for like a month and you must post X amount of times in the other forums before you can use the vineyard . Workingmans tracker has vines but again I have not used that systme it looks like it moves even slower then Dead.net . And I think Yahoo has a music trading community but I hav`nt seen it probobley because I hav`nt looked for it but I think Ursa Minor uses it . Oh and your JGB 81 vine looks like carolina boy singed up for it and I will take it next as I am also a completest like you . *** Clean***Sober***Proud***
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Make a list of what vines you are on that are dead and I will send you what I have . Just post it here so other know who may have them or just PM me . *** Clean***Sober***Proud***
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I also vine at deadhook and philzone. We are FAR more active here though. I got a bunch of stuff from philzone that I have turned around here. I don't know if it has been less active here lately because of the big vines we have done. I do know that we have vined over 1/3 of the catalogue, including most of 68, all of the first half of 69, most of 70, most of 71, most of 72, all of 73, most of 74, all of 77, and a good chunk of 79. In other words, the best years have been vined, at least in this viner's opinion. '82 is a good year, I like Fall '83 a lot, and '89 and '90 are really good, but for the remaining years it can really be hit or miss. I think it would be good for someone to do for the other years what I did for '79 and make some "best of xxxx" vines. Someone who has almost everything from '87 say, could do 3 vines of 4 shows each (on both SHN/FLAC and WAV) of what they deem the best 12 shows from the year. Actually, I'm not sure there are 12 shows from '87 that deserve to be called the best (haha, boo, hiss!). That being said, once I catch up in a month or 2, I'll be back and signing up for Hippy's '90's vines and for that big 81 JGB.
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I too have slowed down here....significantly..... but I am DL'ing like a fool.... After a good start here 13 months ago.... I have multiplied my personal catologue significantly over the last few months.... primarily at Workingman's and LL..... If interested.... PM me for a list.... I keep everything I have up to date on an excel spreadsheet.... and I will be more than happy to copy and share.... single shows or multiple.... let me know. After all.... isn't that what we are all here for?? M GR8FL..... Raymond
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I need to check out some new sites I guess. I tried philzone but didn't find the "vines". I've been d/l like crazy too, we should try to coordinate that and trade. I have a spreadsheet too I could send out and we could work together. I just enjoy getting shows in the mail - it's like being a kid again - waiting for the mailman.. I also like sharing which hasn't been happening much here.. "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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Wow. I had made a friend with a head last year. His name is Paul. He recently contacted me and sent me 6 1995 soundboards. Thanks Paul! I will probably vine these in a few weeks after I have time to go through them. Some of these may have been vined by deadtaper. I will check. None of this is in flac format. Sorry. Just audio CDR. The 1995 shows are: Spectrum 3/17 Charlotte 3/23 Atlanta 3/26 Memphis 4/2 Seattle 5/26 Shoreline 6/2
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If you guys want a project to work on...I certainly would not complain if you found, downloaded and vined the following: From '90: 2/26, 2/27, 3/14, 5/5, 6/9, 6/10, 6/24, 7/4, 7/8, 7/10 and 7/14 (7/8 might be from the Download Series, can't find it on the site here though) From '89: 7/2, 7/9, 7/10, 7/12, 7/13, 7/15 and 10/18. I have the rest of 89 pretty much from June onward, and could vine some of that (thanks RMB!) if folks want. 10/25 and 10/26 especially are noteworthy, as are the July Alpine Valley shows (though one or more of them may have been vined already, I seem to recall a video at the very least). Thanks downloaders, other seeders and regular old viners for what you do!
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D..... I have 8 of these shows you listed.....from '90 I have 2/26, 5/5, 6/9, 6/24, 7/4, 7/10 and 7/14. I have the 7/15/89 as well. I shall get to work on them and send them off to you.... and then you can.... do what you wish!! Raymond
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Thank you very much. I am going to go ahead and vine 3 Oct '89 shows (10/19, 10/25 and 10/26) that I got from you. I'm feeling your generousity and will include both SHN/FLAC and WAV files. The latter was vined previously, but the vine died young, and not too many got to enjoy it. Thanks for everything Raymond!
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The Vegas and Tempe shows from 90-93. My copies are in serious need of a makeover. "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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I've been busy and a bit out of touch with the vine community. I mostly DL from various sites and trade with a few of the folks here. If anyone is interested, I am happy to share my excel list and I'd be willing to help fill gaps for those in need. PM me if anyone is interested. B & P is also another way we could go. "when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"
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I still need to work on a list . sometimes I can`t beleive I`v been vinning and downloading for a solid 2 + years and still don`t have a complete list . I`m such a slacker ! What is an easy way to make a list ? I got 3 HD`s (almost 3 TB) worth of music not to mention all the vines on DVD . sheesh thats a lot and I can`t stop downloading !! LOL *** Clean***Sober***Proud***
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I will find the directions for making the list and importing into either Word or Excel... and then repost here.... Someone here shared it with me.... and now I add every single show I DL at the time I do so... to the list. A few extra steps.... but well worth it if I can stay on top of it...and I have so far! Raymond
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I know I have a few of those from AR and Vegas.... what specific dates ?? Raymond
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I acquired the run a little while back and am finally getting around to listening to it. I've listened to the first 2 nights, quality shows and sound. Here is a link if you want to sample the first night: http://www.archive.org/details/gd1991-09-20.fob.oneil.brennecke-young.g… And here is a note re: the sources: "The James Young & Clay Brennecke FOB Vault - a GEMS Production May 2008 ... we are in progress with The James Young and Clay Brennecke FOB Vault Transfer Project. We have all the Master DATs and are hard at work transferring, editing and soon to be releasing the shows Clay & James recorded from 1991 through 1994. James and Clay began recording with B&K 4011 microphones and a Sony Pro DAT in the Spring of 1991. Summer 1991 mainly saw recordings from the Front Row Dead Center of the Official Taper Section (OTS). June 28, 1991 was their first FOB Recording. And starting with Fall 1991, all of their recordings were All FOB All The Time! Early they recorded with the B&K 4011 Cardiod Mics in the ORTF pattern into a Modified Sony Pro DAT Deck. In 1993, James traded in the B&K's for the AMS ST-250 Soundfield Mic and recorded in the Blumlein pattern into the modified Sony Pro DAT Deck. We are starting at the beginning and working our way to the end of this vault. Spring 1991 through 1994. We have added artwork for CD's and included an m3u playlist for import into your choice of PC/MAC media player ... and if your player supports FLAC, all you have to do is place the folder where you plan to store the files and import the playlist - tracks, tagged and with art are ready for you. We hope you enjoy their body of recording work. ------- Todd & Jamie - Project GEMS." If people are interested, I will vine the run. Because it is 6 shows, I would prefer to make it SHN/FLAC only.
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Here is a copy of a post from Ltapilot from Dec that I used to create a list of shows from my hard drives..... Its great to get things organized.... I am using the excel example.... Hope it works for you! Raymond On December 30th, 2009 Ltapilot said: You can build a list of the contents of a drive in a few short key strokes. 1. Open a command prompt (CMD) 2. change to the drive you want to list C:\Users\Rick>g; 3. Type in dir /b /s /a:d >show.txt (you may call it what ever you wish) This will create a text file in the G drive called show.txt if you would like an Excel file use the .xls extension. More in-depth explanations found here www.computerhope.com/dirhlp.htm Here is an example of the code I use - C:\Users\Rick>g: G:\>dir /b /s /a:d >show.txt G:\> Happy New Year Everyone, Peace Rick
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Hey RMB if you have any of these and want to vine/trade I'd jump for joy! Like I said I have these but, you know, I've had them for years and years the quality is poor and they aren't flac. Plus in my opinion these are some of the best GD shows I attended both in quality and just how much fun they were. Brings back a lot of awesome memories! Vegas - 4/27 (I have a good copy of 4/28) 1991 - 5/29-31 1992 - 5/14-16 1993 - 6/24-26 1994 Tempe - 12/8 and 12/9 1990 - 12/5 and 12/6 1992 "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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Thank you LtaPilot and thank you Raymond . *** Clean***Sober***Proud***
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I have updated a few of the vine lists in regards to dr zevon . last time he spoke with me he said his wife is having some health issusess and he had to stop with the vines for now . He did`nt take his name off all the vines he is on. so if you guy`s can when you come across his name as next on a vine , maybe if you could send him a copy to keep along with a kind note I`m sure he would really like that . If you can`t do that then just skipp him for now . Hopefully his wife will be well soon . Let`s all send him some positive vibes . if anyone needs his address PM me I`ll be more then happy to send it to you . Thank you everyone !! *** Clean***Sober***Proud***
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I live in Canada and want to join some vines. Just wondering if it's cool for me to do so.
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Of course! We'd love to have you. Check out "New Decade, New Vines Topic" (if you haven't already) to get started. "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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Just let me grab my toque!
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Is there anyone here who has the '86 Garcia/Kahn acoustic shows? I'd love to hear those. Would someone be interested in vining those? I hope so as I have nothing to trade.
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From '82. I will look into '86 though. Garcia/Kahn acoustic is pretty much my all time favorite so the more I have the merrier! "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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Any interest in another Pink Floyd vine? SHN/FLAC or WAV or both? I've got a great AUD from The Wall tour, as well as a good AUD from the Animals tour. I'm hoping to acquire a couple more shows within the next couple of weeks.
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http://gdluckynumbers.org/ I never knew about this site.... but its AWESOME! Bill Tetzeli has rated many of the GD AUD's available on the LMA for FREE downloads without bit torrent software.... If you are using Firefox you can DL from LMA all at once with an add on called DownThemALL (or something like that) ... but as an Internet Explorer user I can only DL one flac file at a time.... but nonetheless I have acquired some real nice AUD's this way. Nice to have them rated and linked from this site! Check it out! Raymond
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Thanks for the link. Nice site. To me, there is nothing like a solid aud. "That path is for, your steps alone."
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To Pink Floyd!!!!!!!! "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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Keep a song in your heart. For Pink Floyd!!!!!!!! Greg
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It's a go then on the Pink Floyd vine. I'm waiting for a possible trade to make it at least 4 PF shows in the vine. So far I have a Wall tour AUD that sounds great and an Animals tour AUD that isn't nearly as nice sounding but is still quite listenable. This vine will be offered in both SHN/FLAC and WAV. I've also got a "mostly classic rock" vine in the works. 1 show from Rush (excellent sounding 78 SBD), 1 show from Yes (84, haven't listened yet), Queen (84, haven't listened yet) and [here's why it is MOSTLY classic rock] the Clash (82, very good AUD). I'm looking for another show or 2 to fill out the DVD and want to listen to everything first to make sure the sound/shows are up to snuff. This will just be SHN/FLAC. And finally, I'll post a "best of spring 89" vine in a couple of weeks, once I finish going through the tour, given to me by the always generous RMB.
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That was the Dead's final show from that run at the Radio City Music Hall and it was also shown on closed ciruit TV for the East Coast audience (according to DeadBase). This was a 3 set show; first the acoustic set (with the only Sage and Spirit ever played) then 2 electric sets followed. It is on 4 DVDs which contain of the complete show along with the Franken & Davis comedy duo and their routines during the break (even dragging some of the Dead and the crew into the skits). All proshot or shot for the TV audience but this is only hampered by whatever transfer to get it our on DVD (VHS > ? > DVD). Anyway, if there is interest then I will get Mac to burn copies to vine. I really believe that they should pull a crisp copy of this one out of the Vault to release with remastered sound for all those who are calling for some 80's DVDs. The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
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I think there will be interest. Me for instance.
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Al Franken is loaded, and so is Brent. He can hardly speak when they are interviewing him. It's a classic!
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Not sure, but I seem to recall this was commercially released. I remember this show and saw it in a movie theatre in Albany after seeing three RCMH shows live. I remember afterwards that I was dissapointed. Kinda funny in hindsight as to how spoiled I was at the time. "That path is for, your steps alone."
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The info that comes with the show Oroboros is talking about says they are cuts that didn't make the movie. And possibly from other nights. I don't know if thats true or not, I know there is 4 dvd's worth of film which has to be more than one night. I got a copy from Working Mans Torrent which is usually good about not posting released material. Of course I have some Beatles bootlegs that made it on to store shelves for a couple weeks before anyone realized.
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but someone back East made a copy of the TV proshot from that 10-31-80 show. It is 4 DVD's due to one of the DVDs being a series of comedy skits that were shot for the 'break'. Really the music is about 2 1/2 to 3 DVDs of the Dead playing, the rest is Franken & Davis spoofing on the Dead (Jerry's Kids!), the skit Lopezz was talking about, then they drag Parrish into a skit, then Billy, then some political spoof, and then some more, I can't recall it all. I can see how it may have been a disappointment with all the extra comedy, and espcially if you weren't seeing the Dead live. Just on the screen. But.... But the music is from that single night, start to finish. The Dead Ahead is a compilation with special effects/visuals, and crystal clear video. This is good but not crystal. Deadbase lists this show as most desirable for 1980 with 64 votes (Lewiston 9-6-80 is second with 39 votes, boy wouldn't Lewiston be wonderful show to have on video!). The Deadhead's Taping Compendium rates it as a tape from 80 to get as well. Anyway, whatever marye says we will go with. Just trying to spread it around, you know. The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.
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I think I remember see`n that show on pay-per-veiw. Is this the one with Chef Jerry ? Those skits are too damm funny !! I think i had this on vhs tape also but lost in a move . Looking foward to seeing it again . Thank you Tim !! *** Clean***Sober***Proud***