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    The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

    ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

    When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

    “RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

    Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

    Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

    For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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    Take the friendship and quality medical care for now....
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    One VERY VERY WISE man!
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    Don't do anything that could possibly cause regrets. Don't do anything that could ruin what you already have with her. She's in a relationship. Let her know how much you appreciate her but don't cross a line. She's in a relationship. If there's something there the next step should be her's. I always told my kids "A moment of stupidity, a life time of regret." To your continued recovery my friend.
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    I had been trying to decide whether to post this but seeing y'all post about hippy chicks or girls and the dead I guess I will. I truly do believe in the universal cosmic mind or group mind. As I have been sick and very sick for a big chunk of 2017, I had to have home health. Of course, part of it was insurance based but part of it was private pay. Family and friends use one gentleman as a handyman for various homes, farms, etc. His lady was tasked with being my private nurse as she is retired (right now, could change as demand for nurses is out of control). As she was connected through the family/friends it was a discounted rate, in case you think I live in the King's castle. But I was so sick that my family could not handle all that was going on with me. Well not going get into all the details but she started to visit me when I was staying with family as I was in and out of the hospital 4 different times for a total of 40 days. When I finally got home on March 18th and quite frankly scared of being alone, she showed up the next morning. I had just had final surgery on March 16 and when I woke up in the middle of the night, two of the wounds were not properly sealed so my night shirt with cap (ok not that) but my underwear and sheets had a lot of blood on them. She did not panic, thankfully, and kept me calm and contacted the surgeon. That all worked out. The first few weeks she came every day, 2-3 times a day. She was so kind. She came and checked out wounds, changed dressing, and flushed drains that I had in me. She also prepared 2 meals a day for me. Turns out I worked for her father's law firm as I worked my way through undergraduate school. So I knew her dad. She knew my folks as well. It is a small southern town. One day as she was fixing me scrambled eggs we were talking about our youth and all. She is actually 9 years my senior but a drop dead gorgeous blonde. We were just talking about life and Karma and all, like is my illness the result of something I was being punished for? I told her I used to be wild, but do not believe that Karma played a reason for illness. We continued talking about traveling and stuff. I told her I have traveled a pretty good bit as I was a Grateful Dead fan when I was younger. She responded, oh, I was a Grateful Dead fan when I was younger too. Well ding ding ding. We now had that instant connection. This was still in late March. Her last medical visit was Friday. In that interim we spent so much time together. She saw me at my worst, the weakest physically with open infected wounds and all. We had profoundly deep conversations. Around the end of May I started to show her some of my musical collection to which she was floored. Understandable since most of us on here are kind of in that 1% of deadication. I finally got my first shower in late May. And man, 5 months without a shower makes you really appreciate something so simple and how pleasurable that is. Of course to shower, I had to have her there as I was and still am a fall threat (label of medical community). So as I showered, I would play her various eras of dead music. Last Monday I played the acoustic set from Radio city with the Ripple and all. So here I sit on Monday really conflicted. First of all, she has a man. However, they are not married but do live together. Before I met her my sister had been asking me some questions about life and I told her that the wierd thing is I have had more than a few married females make it clear that they enjoyed my company. But single ladies I seem to run off. Of course, we all know the strength and weaknesses of the female dna (how is that for tact) so I am not going to speak more on that. So I can tell that she seems to want me to press on this issue. There in lies the dilemma. Her fella is a family friend but he is 10 years older than her, a workaholic, kind of running out out of steam but is supper kind. (Btw, her man saw Hendrix at the 1970 Atlanta Pop Festival). So I am all melancholy over what to do. I had written when I first came on this board that there were few if any heads around here. The ones I have met are all in there early 20's so they never saw them. All have been kind but as I am 30+years older do not have a lot to talk about. So to meet the first female head in my area has just floored me. Of course, I am also trying to rationalize my thoughts as it relates to reverse Florence Nightingale syndrome. I really do not know what to do. You all have pointed out the opposite of "tragedy narrowly averted" when it comes to ladies and concerts and all. I am ordering for her Reckoning Expanded for her personal kindness. I am also ordering her the book "The road less traveled" as it is a great book on healing. So I know she will be back to receive those gifts. I also will need some additional surgery later this year so I am sure she will be helping me with that. Just cannot decide to speak honestly about my fondness for her or not. I have been trying so hard to not allow my fondness to grow for her but she is so sweet, patient and loving that it is hard to do. I know she has a fella but like I wrote earlier, I have had several married ladies press me. I know it is because I am kind (and usually have the kind, smile). So I know that usually I speak more to a woman's heart than most of their husband's and her man does. I know it all starts because I actually listen to them and respond accordingly. I know none of you here are this way but a lot of guys take what they have for granted. It is easy for me to connect but I have never stepped over the line. All I can ponder is the discussion with my sister and how it was my sister that got this cute little deadhead to be my nurse. Now I really do not know what to do. I think I am just going to present her the gifts and let her know that she will always have a very soft spot with me for all of the help that she has provided. Sorry for the rambling. Does anyone have any advice?
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    Seriously funny stuff.. completely cracked me up.
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    Omigosh, man, that reminds me of me, though your stories win by some miles. For me it was just one girl I was hopelessly, helplessly enamored of and kept thinking that seeing a great show together might spark something that was, in hindsight, never going to happen. Our first "date" was Jethro Tull ~ fine show until we couldn't find my car for about an hour afterwards. Then came Pittsburg '89, which we drove to together from Baltimore. As recently recounted, I never did hook up with my ticket connection ~ I gave her the one we had in hand, and watched her head in while I eventually had a front-row seat to the nationally televised riot after ticketless heads rushed the gates. Next came JGB that year, when she spotted her most recent ex and spent the entire post-show having a heart-to-heart with him as I waited nearby (after hurrying us along with "I'm tired" when I'd tried gushing with my own friends minutes earlier). Spring '90, third night Landover. Pre-show, she took a nap in my car rather than hang out with me in the lot. As soon as we got inside, she ran into yet another ex-boyfriend and left on the back of his motorcycle after the show. That's okay, at least I saw the Black-Throated breakout from the 9th row ~ where she'd refused to join me, having already told ex she'd be sitting behind the stage...just before my friends offered us the upgrade. There's yet another entry, 3rd night Nassau a week later ~ but you've heard enough. Yes, I was a sap. But we remain dear friends to this day. Spacebro, Appreciate the shout-out for 6/14/91. The finest post-Brent show, and stadium show period, that I saw. Pre-drums was to die for (Help > Slip > Franklin's > Estimated > Dark Star...are you kidding?). Then again, I missed RFK the year before, which by all accounts was the bomb. But backpacking in Europe that summer (and Asia that Fall) was a pretty great excuse....
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    It never worked well for me. Especially outdoor shows in the Florida heat. At The Who's 1982 tour stop in Orlando, my date dropped from the smoke( Maui wowie high grade) and the heat. She had to be lifted over the front of stage barricade. After the show she wandered out and looked like hell. Poor lass! Another time at Rush in Lakeland another date decided to puke all over the guys ahead of us. Red jungle juice all over this dudes tour shirt. Total calamities. I had to buy the guy another shirt to keep him from going ape shit.Had yet another date at Pink Floyd in Orlando mid 80s try and get back together with her ex she spotted in the crowd! I just couldn't win! Now with my wife of 24 years we have no issues as she is a non partier and likes to stay away from the insanity. Suits me fine. Oh yes The Stones Tattoo You tour 82, and a different girl. She passed out in the heat and had to go to the first aid station for fluids! Only to get in my Trans Am on the way home and fill the passengers floorboard with vomit that was so nasty, the smell refused to leave the car and cost me a nice chunk when I traded it in on a new ride. Like in Seinfeld that smell could not be erased. The salesman actually asked if someone had died in the car! Thanks Babe!!!
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    Sonuvagun you're right. Mule is in Grand Rapids tonight, not Rochester. Obviously I didnt have tix yet, but I was going to bust out of work and head right down to Meadowbrook. None of my usual concert buds wanted to go, and I was wondering / hoping someone from here might be there. Guess I dont need to bother. Have fun, man, tell us about it tomorrow. Mule and Galactic, dayum! I shoulda been more on top of it. Meijer Gardens is a great venue, small and intimate, like a club, but outside. As I recall they're kinda stingy about smoking there, tho. Saw Umphreys there a couple times. Jim -- thx --- I like to use the story of me, Mrs. Deadguy, and my roommates old S10 to help explain to folks who don't understand why I love going to shows so much, why they're such a big part of my pursuit of happiness. Figured most folks here would appreciate it.
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    I hear you Dave. I have been hit or miss on relationship GD love. Mostly miss, but always tolerance, I do expect at least that level of support. It's one of those things you have to discover for yourself, you can't push people into it. My first love was and still is a deadhead.. perhaps I should have stuck it out. Oh well, revisionist history I guess. On a related note.. in my tiny, tiny town (or at least close to it) we are getting the John K Band this weekend playing at a local bar/restaurant/music venue. He's from DC so its only a three hour drive for him. He did some sort of echo tour with one of my neighbors a few years back, so he's no stranger to recreating in the mountains here.. I think it was flat water kayak mountain lake related, the guide is an older hippie but not really a deadhead and had absolutely no idea who John Kadlecik was. It was only after it was over he pieced it all together. Anyway.. sorry for the side-bar.. The local music scene here is mostly bluegrass or shoddy cover bands, getting some better dead related stuff shines a ray of sunshine on the local scene.
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    That's quite impressive. I saw 5 myself. Well-4 and a half. At the middle night in London-Halloween 1990-my girlfriend of the time joined me to see the band. She had always been indifferent to them-but on this night-of all nights- she decided she hated them. Well, it wasn't so much the Dead, as the Deadheads. Sorry guys-hopefully it wasn't any of YOU. We happened to be sitting in a particularly smoky and rowdy section, and after the first set ended I decided enough was enough and we left. Otherwise there might have been carnage-she was very beautiful-but you wouldn't want to mess with her. It was a great set, too-arguably the best of the run. I saw them on my own either night of Halloween-both great shows to my ears-but the 31st was the ONE. I have never heard Govt Mule-although I their name crops up a lot. They are playing in London soon, so maybe I should go. On my own.
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RFK Stadium 1989 Box

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The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

“RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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They didn't play Space on 7/12/89 --- I think the price should be lowered because of that...JUST SAYING!
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But I'm not quite the latter-stage Dead fan I once was, but I really do love the price-point here, so I'll more than likely order this just before release date. For me, the total price with shipping and sales tax should be an extra $10 or so, bringing this baby up to $75 to $77 USD.5.75 bolts (out of 6)
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Interesting HDCD observation by smadsen. I've noticed that the CDs in recent years do not seem to fully implement the HDCD specification, in particular peak extend. Dave's 20-22 come to mind. No peak extend, disappointing from that perspective. I was wondering if anyone else noticed. On the other hand, numerous earlier releases have excellent HDCD implementation, with peak extend, examples: Ladies & Gentlemen, Europe '72 complete, FW 1969, Dozin' at the Knick, Winterland both 1973, 1977 sets, So Many Roads, Formerly the Warlocks, To Terrapin & others. Also, Garcia Shining Star & How Sweet It Is. These all have great balance, fine dynamic range without compression. Other than the Dave's series, they've been making high res downloads available. Those are completely uncompressed with optimal audio, a better choice than HDCD for anyone primarily interested in audio quality, especially the limited HDCD implementation in the recent years releases. The engineers should use peak extend for the CD only releases. Perhaps they don't because without decoding HDCD with peak extend are not perfectly compatible.
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Start dancing snafu & mustin321, 'cause I just shot at your feet for saying those two words.That's a one ounce shot glass with cheap whiskey, no guns involved here.
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Definitely happy to see this release. Would have rather of seen Alpine but not complaining. 24 track should sound amazing. I would never watch the DVD so happy to not have it included here. Should lessen the amount of unhappy people when the next Dave's Pick is from the early 70's. Would have been great if there wasn't such a long preorder wait. I am a fan of the late 80s and will reach for this often. Count me in.
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Happy Birthday JERRY,Taper Commando's celebrate!!!! It's finally here. Tell me more.... Was this recorded inside that truck? I've recorded many a show in the 80's with this Fall'89 being my exit tour from NJ. (regrets)- Goodbye DEAD-BELT and Pine Barrens & The Shore. Hello Ocean Drive Apt on South Beach behind The Clevelander Hotel. The RFK "He's Gone" was a 2nd set opener. It had a different up-beat tempo we were not familiar with, but thrilled to dance to it. Tapers with dome tents were the refuge for our NakDat's, D5 & D6 Sony's cassette pro-decks plus fresh to hit the market, The New Maxell 100 min metal cassettes tapes. So while The sky's poured down straight-line rain. We did faith based taping. Which was hit the record function as the Band walked on stage, Zip-Up the tent with One Taper inside to watch the No.1 deck. And have faith that it all works out (and did). The Tape Flip was fading away with the DAT's taking over. I still to this day had my best experiences during shows in the rain. Merriweather, Toga come to mind. All 80's too. I have been patiently waiting for something better than our audience recording of RFK 89's and Happily this release will be on my BD. No Complaints here. Thanks, Cubby
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when I get the $20-$30 stuff I have no problems with customs but with the Spring 90 sets I had to go to DHL & pay a wad of customs duty. With other companies I don't get that problem. Same happen to you?
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for sure thought it would be the 3 night run Spectrum October 1989 anyway , the next performance at Deer Creek after this 2 night run is really solid show as well. Check it out people ! long road trip last weekend. i had a few 70's shows spinning and one 80s. Grabbed a random stack and these were it 6.19.76 ~ set 1 ~ "Looks Like Rain" !!! 6.29.76 ~ set 2 ~ "The Wheel" !!! 4.16.78 ~ set 1 ~ "Cassidy" !!! 10.9.82 ~ set 2 ~ "Eyes of the World" !!! some hot shows and these performances were some of my favorites from each
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As a person who saw all of his shows between 1982 and 1990 (the bulk of which I say between 1987-89) I am disappointed. The jammin' in the early 80's (Philly '81/ Nassau '81/ MSG 82/ U of Iowa '82/ Fall '82/ Fall '83/ Marin '83+84/ etc.. is far superior and I do not give a ___ if Jerry was using cocaine. I lost that prejudice listening to the Zoo '82! I cannot see, for the life of me, what the powers that be hear in 1989 other than nostalgia and Brent. The vocals are terrible - the jamming is by-in-large undeveloped - and most of the new material is plain not that good. Again- this was my time - it was lots of fun. But the early 80's rocked. The arenas were small - many universities- and plain fun. Jerry was living in that unique place in life where he was still young but old enough to see the value of experience. Example: Cap Center - 9/15/82: Set 1: Playin'>Crazy Fingers>Playin Little Red Duprees BIODTL IMHBTR Playin> Let it Grow Day JOB Set 2: Shakedown Sailor/Saint Drums/Space Not Fade Away Stella Round and Round Good Lovin' Touch of Grey That's what I am talkin about Charlie Miller, Dave, etc... C'mon guys
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Having said all that- I still bought it- I just love the Dead. Period.
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Simply put, shows from the early to mid 80s aren't being released as much as other eras because the tapes of those shows don't sound good. I understand wanting those shows released, but they're not gonna get released over Betty Boards and 24 track material. Maybe when they get Plangent working on cassettes they'll release more.
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I would probably never watch it either, but it would a good throw-in. Not going to the Movie night tonight, but I would stream it at home for the same cost as a movie ticket. Just sayin.... ;)
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And peace shall reign forever more over the dead.net kingdom.
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Great points by all on this thread, both the DVD and selection. I do believe this release offers a little balance to the 2017 releases, a year that I think has been exceptional, and its not over. I want more DVDs.. I look at it the same way I look at the Multi-Track tapes that were not used for Spring 1990 v. 1. If not now, then they risk never being released.. and they are a part of history. There are not that many shows recorded with 'decent' (term used loosely) video. I believe if people bought them, if the demand was there.. they would/will get released. Still good discussions, all points of view are being expressed respectfully. Civil discourse at dead.net? Whoo Hoo. Oh, and my LiveJerry 9 just arrived.. made it just in time for the birthday celebration.
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IMHO the [rice here is not bad, less then $11 per disc. I was expecting more like $15 per disc so I am happy. And no limited release so nobody can sqawk about that. I don't watch many dvds so I won't miss that. The last show I saw was in '87 so I will be glad to get these two. 3.5 month wait though will be tough! Rock on
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@JiminMD: As Monsieur Lemieux himself once said elsewhere on this site: "6/10/73 at RFK Stadium in Washington, DC, where the Dead played two shows with the Allman Brothers Band and Wet Willy. These shows have long been considered for release, and it's only a matter of time before we see them mastered properly and released. They're really exceptional." So I can't wait for next Monday morning! 89 is fine, but 73 will set you free...
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And most of the setlist. I threw down my $60-whatever as fast as I could and was delighted to have none of the processing problems that plagued "Light." Something else to look forward to!
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I'll take Cd's over DVDs anytime. I cant put a DVD into an ipod. I mean I guess I could but I've never figured out how and have given up on it at this point and just don't give a shit about it anymore.
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Glad the Brent-era gang finally got a box of their own. No doubt some folks will kvetch that these aren't early or mid-era shows, but being 24 track recordings, they're bound to sound pretty damn sweet. Though my ear rarely ventures past 1978 (yeah, I'm one of those), I'm actually tempted to grab a copy simply because of the multi-track sources. Anyway, all website and shipping fuckery aside (which I thankfully haven't experienced), it's been a pretty stellar year release-wise. Looking forward to Dave's 24 and more...
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Dead.net, please list the packaging size dimensions or show more photos of length and width. I need to know if it is small enough to fit on a CD shelf before I buy.
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Great memories of both of these shows! I'm in. Thanks for the Brent fix guys!
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I'm quite happy about this release. I like both of these shows and no boards circulate (aside from the first set on the 13) although Tom Thumb's Blues appears on Postcards of the Hanging. Can't wait and thanks!
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I tried using PayPal to pay for my order twice and the system failed. On my third attempt, I ticked the credit card box and got an order confirmation straight away. I didn't enter any credit card details nor did I enter a password to access my existing account. WTF
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Outside of the Dead family there are very few HDCD discs being released these days. Apparently few, if any, actually implement peak extend because very few people have HDCD players (the decoding chips aren't even made anymore, although there may be a software workaround). Even Microsoft, which bought the technology years ago, no longer builds HDCD decoding into its Windows media player. There's a good discussion of HDCD by Charlie Hanson of Ayre at: https://www.audioasylum.com/cgi/vt.mpl?f=digital&m=184282
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This looks like a great set, but I think I'm going to have to pass on this one. First of all, I'm running out of room to store all these boxes. More importantly I don't have the time to get around to listening to what I already have. I'm sure these will sound great but the 2 spring 90's boxes do too and those rarely get touched. If I need an '89 fix I've always got the 30 trips show that isn't getting any play. Plus, every 3 months we get a new Dave's so those don't see much, if any, replay. I guess I just don't need 2 more '89 shows in my life with everything else we already have. If I ever change my mind, luckily it's not limited, so I can always pull the trigger on this. Glad this was put out for all you 80's fans though!
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Ordered. I wish they would fix their ordering system, long since time. No excuse. Tried three times earlier and all failed in different ways and fourth try said system busy try again later. I just tried again and got through. I find it hard to believe that this box had the kind of response GSTL did, so is seems odd at best that the system couldn't handle the request. I liked these shows when I was there, though I much preferred the spring summer 90. Possibly that has to do being on the field with heat and all the rain both these nights. On 7/13 it was relentless after the break, and by Wharf Rat I gave in and we left - my fiance, in three months my wife, was drenched, despite our rain gear. I think it also had to do with I never really loved Bruce playing accordian at these shows, particularly Tennessee Jed. I did like the 12th a lot and am always glad to get an official release of a show I saw.
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I saw all of summer 89 except Deer Creek. Good times, good times. I still like to look at my 7/4 ticket stub and say out loud "Grateful Dead and 10,000 Maniacs? More like 55,000 maniacs !!" I remember the 7/13 show was physically draining as it was four shows in five nights. I think this was the last summer that the scene wasn't too overrun with nitrous gangs and people there just for the party. Dave sure is filling in this tour.....can Foxboro or a complete Alpine release be far behind? After years of pining for 9/18/87, I'll now beg for 10/31/70, 5/7/70, or any Capitol November 70. Those reels have to be somewhere !!!!!! Thanks, Dave and Jeff, and Happy Birthday, Jerry. I miss your playing.
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Going with the high res. flacs for the first time. Picked up a "Bluesound Node 2" streaming device. I've ripped and tagged all my official live Dead discs (1FTV through Dave's 23). I never look at the booklets and less stuff makes life a little easier IMHO. I hope the download process is painless.
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Just got home and hopped on here to order. I now have "3" by my shopping cart icon, but everytime I click the icon and go to the shopping cart page I am told my cart is empty. Tried about 12 times now...Guess I will try again later. I really wish GDM would sell through Amazon. Then again, GDM probably can't meet Amazon's standards for third-party reliability. EVERY release through the GDM website comes with hassles that don't happen at other sites. Still: Happiness to all who are excited about this release!
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07/12/1990 RFK was a superior show to it's 1989 counter part. Ask anyone that was there - it was truly transcendent. The faithful standing in the rain - rewarded with a dark star that shimmered like a jewel. For years I carried around a laminated purple stub with dancing skeletons from that show in my wallet - that's how good is was. Once again GDM misses the boat based on the powers that be narrow scope of knowledge. The disconnect is painfully obvious - to say "nine month period of sustained excellence" stopping short and leaving out the epic and last truly great tour by the band - summer of 1990 - is just plain ignorant.
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Maybe people here will think I'm being negative here, but I'm simply being earnest about my impressions below, and not trying to stir up anyone's ire. I'm not much of a musician myself, and so am particularly curious about what others, particularly the more 'musically-sophisticated' think about these (musical) matters. So here goes:Saw this new box set and, unfamiliar with the shows, immediately went to check them out at the Archive for potential purchase. Out of impulsive curiosity I clicked first on the second night's Other One, a piece I consider a more demanding test of the Dead's playing in the later era. Immediately I had a common response to late 80's and 90s recordings- disappointment with the drumming- particularly with Hart's, from what I could tell from my laptop (for casual show reviewing)- which sounded under-powered and sloppy in its timing/synching with the rest of the band, which made it hard for me to lose myself in the band's playing. This brings up two issues I have with shows during the band's later years- that after '86 or so, the drumming sorta fell off the map for me with most shows, and that after the 70s, Hart's contribution to the band more obviously becomes a liability to my ears. To preface this- I understand that advancing age may make a drummer's job physically harder than a keyboardist's or string player's, and that later on the other band members had their weaknesses as well, compared with the earlier years- and that substance abuse, changing lifestyles, ambivalence about touring by a certain member etc. certainly impacted the band's onstage creative dynamic, particularly Jerry's towards the end. That being said, when I listen to later-era Dead, the decline in the drumming tends to jump out at me first and be much more often problematic- it's usually less creative, less nuanced, and much less energetic than the earlier years. Were they just not able to keep up their stamina like they used to? Part of this I also attribute to there being two drummers. While I recognize Hart's contributions to Kreutzmann's early drumming development, plus the excitement and raw energy possible with two drummers, plus the many interesting drum portions of later concerts, I've always felt that Hart's return to the band subtracted from the more articulate, jazzy, and nuanced playing of the solo-Kreutzmann era, particularly as time went on. While it's impossible for me to imagine the Dead's instrumental excellence being possible without Lesh or Weir (and obviously Garcia was beyond crucial), many Heads' favorite era (and mine as well) is the one that also happened to be sans Hart, particularly '72 to '74. Part of that is obviously due to where the band members were in their overall creative and life trajectories, plus the addition of Keith on keys, but part of it I believe is that the sound balance was better with just one drummer, and Kreutzmann could fully develop his strengths as a player. With Hart's return, and after the initial flush of the first few years back in action, to my ears the decline in the drumming becomes more obvious, even clearly 'dumbed down,' partly due to Kreutzmann's having to reasonably synch with someone else playing in his domain- he just couldn't 'stretch out' as much. While the drummers still had many strong nights, the drumming just didn't compare to the early 70s, and by the late 80s it was (on the instrumental side of things) most often the band's weakest link. Maybe just my biases (and for what it's worth, any 'Mickey problem' doesn't begin to compare in my mind with the 'Vince problem'). What do other people here think?
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For those experiencing the same problem: Using Firefox browser on a Mac OS X system. The problemsolving tactic was to go into my Firefox preferences and allow "3rd party cookies" to be accepted. Doing so allowed the transfer of my shopping cart info from GDM proper to the Warner system. $77 later I am enrolled to receive this release in November! Not a great price and not a great selection of shows IMO, but 80s getting represented! I want 80s releases, so my money goes where my mouth is! Let's do some more 80s in 2018!
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You are correct, the addition of Mickey Hart narrowed the drumming significantly. Billy went from a one man rock / jazz / prog virtuoso, who had room to add his fills and actually steer the band during improv pieces, to a one-two, one-two, one-two layer down of the back beet, while Mickey would throw tom-tom rolls down on top of it (or cowbells). It's just what Jerry wanted or Phil or whoever (certainly not Keith, because this slowly encroached on his musical space within the band). Bob Weir too. He ended up moving toward that thin high end part of the spectrum, just to be heard (his words). Bad move in my opinion. They never should have touched that '74 sound, cuz it was gold. Butterfly effect. People will defend the move and cite a song or two here or there, and sure, Samson and Delilah required two drummers, and b the Let It Grow section sounded awesome in 1977, but by and large, they moved forward with a legacy of old songs that lost their precision with Mickey there. Compare Uncle Johns Band in Winterland 77 to the delicate nuanced touch of Winterland 73, and you hear exactly what the band lost. Sugar Magnolia. Greatest Story Ever Told. It goes on and on, but this is what the decision makers in the band wanted. Even Phil commented that they'd lost the magic after the hiatus. And then by the last 15th years of their career, they were into electronic drums and triggered sounds and the like. I don't get the impression from his book that Bill had any choice. And clearly Keith had no choice what kind of keyboard he was going to play, because he quit the band over it. I would love to know who decided Mickey's return was necessary and why (rom the decision makers, not the opinion columnists).
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An impossible question to answer.. If there were no changes in keyboardist.. no doubt these threads would disintegrate into vitriol about personnel changes behind the skins. I liked Mickey's contributions.. I always viewed him as the mad professor w/ sticks, strings and large clubs. I like the soundtrack from Apocalypse now and his use of The Beast in the second set. Sure.. they sounded like ill-timed popcorn poppers at times and had their good and off nights. But when they were on, especially in the later years.. the drums space segment was its own show inside the show. When it worked, it worked well.. when it didn't, perhaps Jerry or Phil were having a good night so I would focus on them. One Edit: Keep in mind.. Mickey was in the band from 9/67 through 2/71. There were some mind blowing performances in those years. I guess my take is take it for what it's worth. Second Edit: I do like the 72 through 74 a whole lot too. Billy had a great perspective on this in his book.
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....The Grateful Dead would not exist without Jerome John Garcia. Fact. I don't look at The Dead as a science experiment. I look at them as a celebration.... edit....been a while since I've gone primal. Been in a 77, 78, 82 mode lately. Went through a Thelma phase a month ago. Figured it's time to go through the DP 16 Fillmore Aud 11.8.69 wormhole. I hear this guy named Hart does some percussion....i like making my bed to this era
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The Grateful Dead releases I have listened to are mastered in HDCD but don't actually use any of the HDCD advantages. No Peak Extension is used. I am also fine with most CDs. So for the less easily satisfied we we could wish for DSD in addition to lossless 192/24 downloads. Devices like your OPPO would have no problem playing DSD downloads. BTW: I am will be getting the 192/24 downloads. I would really like to see CD + lossless file download at a priced reduced from the cost of buying them separately. Old Stereo owner in the later group of folks.
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Listening to this show is like ingesting an IBM Machine (or Mac if that's your fancy). The last time I listened to it.. even the next day my burps had color and sounded like Chopin.
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Wonder if the release will have Billy's Holy FS in it!
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It's in the mix. I'm sure it's in there. Cracked me up.
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I do consider '68 to '69 to be one of my favorite periods of the band's, am currently getting blown away by '76 shows, and do particularly like a number of their '82 to '85 shows, so it's not that Mickey was horrible or anything, just that as a whole it seems to me that in their mid and later years, his presence subtracted more than added to the drumming side of things. Re. the late, late 60s I think he fit in better to a primal drumming sound than a more developed one that emerged after his departure in '71 (along with the band's further evolution as a whole), and so other than some of his percussion flourishes and part in the drum solos when they became a standard part of the shows, I think that by the Keith era, the band's sound had grown beyond what Mickey could best offer. Minas, what you're saying about the later electronic sounds totally resonates with me. The electronic drums, Jerry's midi, etc. generally take me out of the larger sound. In addition to the particular playing style of the early 70s era, the band's individual and collective tonality at that time (particularly from '73 and '74), really grabs and enchants me in a way that the later sound, and particularly that of the last era, doesn't, regardless of many wonderful shows from then as well.
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....i love roller coasters. I love getting strapped in to prep for the ride. I also love The Grateful Dead. I love getting strapped in to prep for the ride. Sometimes one needs to strap in mid-song. You know. When your ear catches a certain tone. All part of the plan....
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That was a quick save there Vguy.... You know I was gonna... ;)
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....yeah. Quick I am at times. Haha (shhhhh). Proofreading is good....reminds me of a certain line. "What would be the answer to the answer man." Hell if I know. Just answer the man! Wha?!
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Really hope these CDs sound much much better than the mix on Meet up at the Movies. Felt like it was a 2.5 hrs keyboard solo! Love Brent, but he was wayyy too prominent in the mix. Can barely hear any guitar solos. And what's up with the super echoey singing?? Can't wait for this box! and still hoping for the Alpine '89 box as well.
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1st: the sound: our theater had issues. the sound was off the first 1/3 of TOG. Then for the remainder of the show, about every four minutes, there would be a skip of several seconds with silence and visual disruption. Not a happy audience when that happened. and the mix was off, I agree. 2nd: a fun little show. glad I went.
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Just seeing this now! Went to the Meet-up and it was fantastic! Definitely getting this! Thanks for throwing us '80's fans a bone! When does the DVD come out? The mix at the theater was fine, but not loud enough. No mention of this being released at the showing. Nice surprise announcement in my email inbox. This version of Men Smart, Women Smarter is definitive. Saw Hornsby sit in on Sugaree and Stuck Inside of Mobile the previous year at Buckeye Lake in '88 and the beginning of the accordion years. Estimated > Eyes was sweet. Far From Me in the first set was another highlight. Glad to see this set isn't limited so anyone who really wants one shouldn't have to worry about missing out. Saw them at Alpine in '89. A peak among peaks. Happy Birthday Jerry!
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