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    The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

    ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

    When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

    “RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

    Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

    Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

    For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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  • Cousins Of The…
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    Take Promised Land: Chuck Berry took credit for the melody, yet it's basically a rewrite of the Carter Family's Wabash Cannonball; AP Carter took credit for it, though it was written by J. A. Roff in the late 1890's.There's a lot of similar examples within the Blues genre as well; Carl Perkins took credit for his Sun recording of Matchbox, which started as Matchbox Blues by Blind Lemon Jefferson.
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    daverock - Agreed that there's nothing wrong with honoring the past by covering something to "make it your own". But LedZep didn't honor the music and the songwriters when they did covers - they (likely the manager) simply claimed LedZep wrote it - stole the credit and royalties as if the original author never existed. That's the most disrespectful thing you can do... Bonnie Raitt, contrast, took every opportunity to shine a light on her musical heroes like Sippy Wallace (sp?) and others, even pulling them up on stage with her during TV performances despite producers' protests.... LedZep PRAYED no one would remember the artists whose music they covered. Nobody's perfect, but this little maneuver was shameful. Even worse is Bob Dylan who covers songs people KNOW aren't his, and still brazenly puts himself down as the author! I'm amazed he hasn't had legal issues over this - actually he probably has. I love his music, but he's a really odd dude. Listened to the DaP from Boulder 1981 on a long drive today. Love the occasional 80's show, and this is a goodie. Far from perfect - 80's Dead creaks and wheezes a little, but this one rings the bell - a great listen.
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    Ask Bonnie Dobson how she feels about allowing Tim Rose to add some lyrics to Morning Dew. Hint not to happy it will forever read Dobson-Rose and he/his estate gets 25 %. As for the blues ripoffs there is one point not mentioned so far. As much as Zep The Stoned etc did rip off many bluesmen some of them recognized that they also brought attention, record sales and concert sales to those old artists. Not trying to justify what was done but as in so many things things are more complicated than at 1st blush
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    Yes, I agree, that sounds totally different how Bonnie Rait respected her blues sources compared to the way Led Zep simply plundered them. I also like Bob Dylan, and I am also amazed at how he has used other peoples songs, changed the lyrics and claimed them as his own. He does this right up to his last few supposedly self penned albums. On "Modern Times" for example, he takes credit for having written "Rollin' and Tumblin'-he doesn't even change the title. Its an exact replica of the old blues song-with new lyrics. There are plenty more like this-especially on this album. There was an interesting book on Dylan that came out last year, called "Why Dylan Matters" written by Richard Thomas. Its a bit pretentious, arguing that Dylan only matters because he was influenced by Ancient Greek and Roman poets. To me, whether he was or wasn't is entirely beside the point. But Thomas also tackles the topic of plagiarism, and uses the phrase "intertextuality" to describe a process whereby one artist incorporates the work of a previous artist, embellishes it and develops it and so can then legitimately lay claim to authorship. He reckons this is what Dylan did. I don't buy this for a minute. To me, it can only be true-and then debatably so-if the later artist lives within the culture of the art which he is appropriating. Bob Dylan was not a bluesman. When he uses the riffs of bluesmen he is playing music from a culture which he does not belong to-as opposed to someone like, say, Howlin' Wolf, who lived within the blues world and could lay claim to ownership as a consequence.
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    To the Who's credit.. the Pete selected an excellent drummer from the audience to sit in and thus launched another long career.
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    Within the blues culture there is an established pattern of development of songs. Lyrics, riffs, melodies and rhythms are adapted and reused in different contexts within this culture to great effect. Robert Johnson, for example, used earlier songs as the basis for his amazing recordings in the late 1930s. This doesn't mean, however that musicians outside this culture can legitimately take earlier ideas from within it for development/exploitation. Led Zeppelin had no connection with the world of the Delta blues outside their L.P. collection. I can remember a great review of a blues festival from around 1969 in Rolling Stone, by Stanley Booth. After hearing Furry Lewis, he marvelled at what an amazing life he must have led. After hearing Johnny Winter he marvelled at what an amazing record collection he must have had. Bands like Led Zep are okay until you have heard the real thing-after that they seem a bit...
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    Rather than end the show they should have done what The Who did and get a drummer out of the audience. I made it to the 10-15-95 Page and Plant show at The Palace. As close as I got to Led Zep. Thought it was great although I was a bit disappointed that they had reworked No Quarter and I didn’t think that it was nearly as good as the version on Song Remains The Same.
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    I can still remember my early exposure to Led Zeppelin II as a teenager growing up in the early '80's and how gloriuous it was to hear in front of a stereo between the speakers and with the old Walkman with headphones. Just a brilliant album and stereo experimentations from the mixing standpoint. Sure, much of the music from this album was plagierized from blues artists, but the twist they put on it was pretty cool. My personal favorite Zeppelin album would have to be Presence. I believe it to be their performance, creative and songwriting peak. Achille's last Stand is epic. Interesting how it wasn't as well recieved in rock critic circles as their earlier albums. Never got to see Zeppelin live, but did see two Page and Plant shows on their first outing with a symphony orchestra and a group called The Egytian Pharoes. I believe '94 or '95. It was a two show run at The Palace of Auburn Hills. Even scored taper tickets for the second show, which was a surprise that they even offered them. The first of the two nights had an incident where some guy with a knife somehow got onto the stage and charged Jimmy Page. He was tackled before he got past the drum riser. It even made national news. I remember the first night being the better of the two, but did tape the second show, which was also good.
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    As huge a music fan as can be, I love scores of bands from the Beatles on... somehow, RollingDed or GratefulHalen just doesn't have the ring to it... Certainly, Led Zeppelin were not the brightest of shining stars in the ethics department. From hotel vandalism, extreme drug ingestion, physical violence, consorting with underage groupies, etc., this was a band of savages on the road in the 1970s. Their manager, ex-pro wrestler Peter Grant, was a bear of a man with a horrible temper and fierce intimidation tactics. People cowered before him, road manager Richard Cole as well as others in the entourage. Led Zeppelin were shrewdly and brutally managed into one of the most lucrative and artistically successful entertainment acts of their era. Robert Plant did shamelessly nick wordly passages from old blues records - primarily in the early days before he found his muse as a lyricist. Jimmy Page, no doubt, put a heavy spin on several established blues riffs that went uncredited. The blues, however, as any student of the genre knows contains many traditional songs and forms that have been handed down, modified and outright plagiarized for decades. It is part of the history of the style and Led Zeppelin were hardly the only ones to get over. How Zeppelin rolled in their heyday was not tremendously different nor more excessive than several rock and roll bands of that age (The Who, Rolling Stones, etc.) What really matters and stands the test of time to me is the fine body of work they left behind. Led Zeppelin III, IV, and Physical Graffiti are just monster albums and Houses of the Holy is no slouch either. Some think only of the heavy bombast and banshee-like wailing of Led Zep, but anyone who's gone deep into their catalogue is well aware of the wide range of styles of which they were masters. I feel their 2007 tribute to Ahmet Ertegun concert is a gem that shows them still able to reach the height of their glory all those years later. What a way to go out, indeed, a Celebration Day. Drummer John Bonham, owing to immense intoxication, forced the end of a single concert after only three songs in Nuremberg, Germany in June 1980, three months prior to his death. Generally, they were known for playing marathon shows including many over four hours that included both acoustic and electric sets.
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    I once saw a Kinks show that lasted for less than 2 songs. During the second song Ray Davies smacked himself in the mouth with the microphone and broke a tooth. End of show. He was probably drunk - which brings us to Bickershaw (think Europe '72) which was the other time I saw the Kinks and they were horribly drunk and it was a sloppy performance which is probably being too kind to them. Banana Boat Song ? Do me a favour! As for Peter Grant, a musician friend of mine met him and didn't have a good word to say about him.
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RFK Stadium 1989 Box

LESS THAN 5000 LEFT

The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

“RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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I enjoyed the MUATM, though I agree that the show was kinda slow and started putting me to sleep. Man smart, Cassidy, fantasy and Half step are the tunes that stood out for me. I'd want this more if it was the video recordings, but I probably won't get this cd set. Atleast it's there for the people that really wanted more 80s.
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Never saw the Dead or got into them until this year. I'm more of a Sabbath guy, but I literally stumbled into the theater, baked on 420 and saw the Grateful Dead Movie on 4/20. Lots of cool dudes there. I guess I'm into the Dead now, because I went back last night. Before that I bought Sunshine Daydream and have been listening to it for months and the soundtrack from the movie. I gotta say it was a pretty cool concert,last night but they sounded a lot better on the two 70s movies. Kind of like the Stones I guess - always great because it's the Stones and they're consume professionals, but the recent live recordings don't really hold up to their heyday. Don't get me wrong, I liked last night's show, but I wouldn't show somebody that period if I wanted to turn them on to the Dead. I would show them that Promised Land and China Cat Sunflower from Sunshine Daydream movie. It did motivate me to buy more Grateful Dead, so I came to the website here. I'll pass on this '89 show, but who has a recommendation closer to Sunshine Daydream and Grateful Dead movie? That period seems to be when they thrived. It looks like a lot of CDs are sold out on this site. Do they restock quickly or do you have to wait awhile? Well nice reading all your posts, quite a large number of opinions about the new set.
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I had a lot of fun at this last night and am glad others are psyched for this; I'm just surprised Lemieux went with these two shows. Have never heard the second night, and hadn't heard the first before last night, but I think both Giants shows are better. Am I unbiased? No. But I used to listen to mediocre to medium good audience tapes of the 9th and 10th years ago over and over again and loved both of them. The first night at Alpine Valley of course blows all the stadium shows away and that's why they released it. The second set is as well played as anything else that year, including the more exciting and jammy Hampton and 10/16 Byrne. Never bought JFK and don't know it well but also think Buffalo on the 4th is better than the first night of RFK. But, whatever....I'm glad this is NOT limited edition and can check it out later if I feel like it. Just hope the Giants shows are considered for movie nights or releases in future. (The second night in Giants '91 is also better than last night IMO, and that's with the concession that Brent Dead is better than post-Brent Dead 9 out of 10 times usually.) The truth is EVERY show in '89 was well played by comparison to '94-'95, but not every one was magical like 7/17, 10/9, 10/16, etc. I'm glad these are multitrack and will be released in all their pristine crispiness. Totally agree with pwfurther who said RFK '90 was superior to '89. Never went to any of them, but just the pre-drums filler of 7/12/90 on the RFK '91 View from the Vault release is FANTASTIC-a AWESOME Dark Star-I like it better than the 6-14 '91 show in fact. (RFK '91 is cool, but 6-17 Giants is better played than that too, save for the better set list at RFK.) Liked Black Peter the best last night at RFK. Great version.
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Butch-a million places and choices to begin, but get Dick's picks 2 (not Dave's) if it is still available, though it may not be. Just one disc from Halloween '71. (Last night was NOT a particularly good example of exceptional '89 late era Dead. the Hampton box set or the Nightfall of Diamonds release is much better.) Any of the individual shows from the Europe '72 tour is the closest to sound of Eugene '72. A lotta choices :) Stepping out with the Dead, from 6 or 7 London shows '72 also is great...
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Live/Dead 1969Ladies And Gentlemen 1971 Steppin Out 1972 Sunshine Daydream 1972 Movie Soundtrack 1974 Cornell 1977 Wake Up To Find Out 1990 All commercially available.
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This release may be followed at some point with a box of the rest of the 89 summer tour. I agree the set list is less impressive than the rest of the tour but this is most likely a set up for a future box.
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....what's the first rule of judging shows again? I try, and I try....you know what is impressive? Phish has 10 shows of their 13 MSG run under their belt, and has not repeated a single shitty song yet. They are really gonna do it! That, is impressive, no matter which band you like....
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mhammond12 - great choices. Butch - I'd also suggest signing up for a Dave's Pick yearly subscription. Get four limited release shows for a little over $100. If you don't like them you can easily recoup your money.
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It seems we have new friends here. Hmmm dubai-escorts-bunnies is online. Interesting profile page. Yo! Mary!
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Post...One more item officially off my bucket list...
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I have only one suggestion for Mr. Melon- and it's divided into 97 parts. But really, here's my two cents- If not already a subscriber, check out the free trial to Spotify or iTunes...Their GD release catalog is quite impressive, and could help steer your ship closer to inspired waters. (How about being able to hear every Dick's Picks, all the Road Trips and Europe '72 for free...Try before you buy I guess...And there's a bunch more than those on the above streaming services.) My second cent is a trip to the Archive...Here's a link if needed to get started: https://archive.org/details/gd1972-09-28.sbd.miller.94268.sbeok.flac16 And please do remember the name Charlie Miller, because we love him, that's why
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Bean Town '17..get some:) Pssst...I think Jim is the dude in the overalls with the crooked hat in the opening seconds that's obviously hittin' the bowl in the top of said overalls. Just joshin'...Love ya Jim Mayer~doin' some heavy lifting there if ya ask me. Otiel as well.
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Please, please release the Cal Expo run 2 weeks after Alpine.....The music was so loud and on fire the whole run. 11 song first set one of the nights. Saturday night they did a mind blowing Hey Pocky Way>Playin'>Rider>Terrapin to open the second set.....The place went absolutely fucking nuts.......It was right after Jerrys BD and I seem to remember them passing a huge HB card up to the stage.......There are good FM broadcast recordings out there.
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How could you tell.. was it the nervous tic or the prison stripes under the overalls? Pretty funny... the next night we were close to where this guy is.
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I was just watching the 07/12/89 Touch of Grey video on Rolling Stone's website. At the last run-around of the choruses when they switch from I will survive to We will survive and Brent joins in the harmonies and totally lifts up the vocals from Jerry and Bob, look at the huge smile that breaks on Jerry's face, and if there is any doubt that is the reason Jerry is smiling, re-watch and see how he then looks over at Brent and encourages him on. I have seen that same thing happen almost every 89 show for which there is video. It's clear that Jerry loved Brent, his musicianship and his vocals. So for those of you who choose to bash or criticise Brent's contributions to the band, well I think there is someone in the band who wouldn't agree. The Dead are what they are because of all the contributions bigger and smaller that evolved over time from the players and the crew that kept it fresh and that includes TC, Donna and Keith, Brent, Vince and Bruce. I'm excited to hear 7/12/89 and 7/13/89 in full. Coming on the heels of a great year so far of Daves Picks and the 77 box set, it has been a great great year of releases.
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After 2015 and the release of Boxilla, it's been proven that even a set full of '80's and '90's shows will sell out for a premium cost, so the demand angle has been confirmed in spades. Fast forward to this year and not only do we get Cornell '77, but also Buffalo '77 plus the two other May '77 shows, four nice Dave's Picks releases and as the cherry on top of the psychedelic sundae RFK '89 as an unexpected bonus. It's been a perfect year and there's still another Dave's Pick, another Record Store Day release and the subscription for 2018. I'm hoping for a '91 show to close out Dave's Picks this year. A year with something released from nearly every era.....not that I would mind another Brent show though....wink wink....
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Haven't ordered yet but of course I'm going to. On the XM Show, where DL2 talked about this release and played tracks, at the VERY VERY end of the show, he says "order now, this will sell out". I don't see anywhere that this is a limited run... I mean, everything except time and space is limited. But is this like a 10K unit run, or is it 25K? I don't see any mention of this being a "numbered" edition... so yeah it may sell out but it may be in 2 years anyone know the scoop?
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Maybe it's the new Rhino marketing strategy. Instead of waiting to announce the music only version after the limited version sells out, they are announcing the music only version first and will come out with the limited version box with the DVDs in September?;) July 78 box is limited and still not sold out. Anything with a digital version available technically will never sellout, just the packaging and Dave's Picks are limited now.
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It kind of amazes me...the amount of comments on this site from people stating they don't like the DVD's...I know its just a preference thing, but I wish every show came with a video. I mean, who doesn't like watching what Jerry does with his fingers? And Bob Weirs style is so odd and subtle at times, I find really fascinating to see exactly what he adds to the mix...of course you can hear it but sometimes it can be elusive. Also, its great to see the crowds dancing and having a good time. Just one guys opinion here...YMMV.
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there are some europe 72 shows still for sale here in the shop surprisingly. You won't regret buying any of them, but I'd snap up 5/26/72 first. Stepping Out is a great compilation of (the England only I believe) Europe 72 shows. Ladies and Gentleman 71 is a very great place to start. You probably like the sound from this era as Jerry was on his strat. The cornell 3cd you may as well get also, or even the entire Get Shown the Light Box set.
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Grate suggestions by all. I will also suggest Two From The Vault. A lot of the shows sold on this website are limited edition and sell out quickly. The 'non-limited' ones hang around for a while but eventually are gone. http://www.dead.net/store/music
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I happened upon the double album Steal Your Face. very odd.11/25/82. had a speedy cassette for years. now on youtube at normal speed. 4/16/78 first set. WOW.
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so many good shows. so many many good shows. so many many many good shows.
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that was also released this year with the nice 7/29-30/66 cherry added on the top. So Far: 1) GD 50th Ann + 7/29-30/66 2) Dave's 21 (4/2/73) 3) Long Strange Trip (Movie + 3 CD Set) 4) Dave's 22 (12/7/71) 5) May 1977 Get Shown The Light (5/5, 5/7, 5/8, 5/9) 5a) Cornell 5/8/77 6) Dave's 23 (1/22/78) 7) Meet-up at Movies 7/12/89 8) RFK '89 Box (7/12&13/89) 9) All the Singles releases 10) Dave's 24 ??? That's a nice year. Most important thing is the Betty's are back & the releases will likely relfect it. If there is '73-'78 stuff they have been missing for a while & it's back, I'd say now is the time. My bet for Dave's 24 is something from '74 or '76.
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And you gotta have hope for the future since Dave in the DaP 23 seas side chat he is looking forward to/feels 2018 will be even a better year.
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have way too much backlog already can hardly keep up with the supply! Not yet listened to much of GSTL other than Buffalo. Listened to DaP 23 first CD twice, due to time constraints. Did listen to ttats 77 show which was actually pretty good, and Amsterdam europe 72 finally, while waiting for DaP 23. In the mood for some long-unlistened-to Dick's Picks next, after completing DaP23 this weekend. 3cd Amazon movie soundtrack also still in shrink wrap, but this announcement has put me in the mood to dip into that Warlocks cigar box again.
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DaL mentioned in one of the video that 2018 will be even better than 2017. So.....something that are better than the May '77 shows, Close Encounters, Felt Forum, March '73, and Summer '89. What would that be??? Any thoughts?
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I'm just curious which audio format that people are using now. Also, what kind of portable audio player do you like best? I have been using Apple Lossless and iPod Touch as well as an Onkyo digital player the last few years. What is your favorite and why? Over the ear headphones or in ear? Be good :)
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Flac files. At home I have two "Bluesound Node 2" units that plug into old amps. Files are stored on a NAS attached to a router. Portable, android phone.
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CDs on a old-school stereo (also vinyl & cassettes).FLAC downloads burned to CD. Portable - none (I need some peace sometimes).
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are these discs numbered? if not whats the point of pre-order?
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HDs filled with flacs or wavs, depending on player, from EAC rips of CDs on a 7.1 home theater system. CDs, but the HDs sound just as good so... portable would be a Sony Walkman HD which plays flac files and over the ear Sony headphones.
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ALAC's, Wav's.. CD copies, not too much flac, but I can work with it. tin can at the end of a string, Vinyl, cassette, 8 track... I can get just about anything to work in a bind.
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You're new so you don't know. Even when they are numbered/preorder that has nothing to do with what you get. This year I orded Dave's sub within an hour of it going up. My latest-23- was 13000. They make no effort to match early purchasers and the number they got.
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Not numbered.Pre-order probably gives them an idea how many to manufacture - pre-orders plus expected later sales.
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CD's/CD-R's in my living room using an Onkyo 6-disc changer. Separate HD's containing AIFF, AAC-320 Kbps, ALAC, FLAC. Need to cover all my bases. Recently got a car with a USB port so I use flash drives with AAC-320 Kbps files (lossy and brief gaps between tracks but I figure leaving flash drives in my car is better than an expensive music player). Have an iPod classic 60 GB that I just use on airplanes. Will buy a portable player in the future when there is one available that takes dual 512 GB (or larger) cards. Don't need it now so I can wait.
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I download all GD releases to Itunes then manage my Ipod 80 gb classic to cater to whatever I want at the moment. Sometimes it's all GD, sometimes not. My concern is Apple is closing out Ipods as an option. When my best friend (Ipod 80 gb classic) dies what should I replace it with to continue to give me great sound and storage in a portable music playing device?
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Thats right the woman are smarterThats right the woman are smarter The woman are smarter , Thats right Thats right ... https://archive.org/details/gd1989-07-12.Nak300CP4.Fitzy.Keo.125359.Fla… :) little boy sit on the corner and cry big man come and he asked him why he says, "i can't do what the big boys do" the man sat down and he cried too ... :)
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I have a blu-ray player, but waited awhile to get one. I have, personally, never cared about the medium - the devices - as long as the content is good. I'll listen to the Dead on anything decent. Or, given the situation, on something indecent. Like a crappy battery-operated speaker while camping. As long as those tunes keep coming, that's enough for me. I still watch old Humphrey Bogart and Hitchcock movies in B & W. Doesn't bother me, kind of adds to the charm.
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When the prison doors are opened, the real dragon will fly out…………. Mornin’, rockers!!!! My oh my, you know what day it is: https://archive.org/details/gd1971-08-04.sbd.miller.95308.sbeok.flac16 Do people break out so they can break in and hear the Dead? Should Bob Weir try to tell jokes? How did Phil get so phunky? This is no frills, no jams, straightforward hard rocking Grateful Dead. Oh and hey! there’s a good dose of Pigpen. Can’t go wrong with all that……….. For those of you with lots of free time, check out this most excellent essay on Doc’s favorite Dead cover tune: http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2013/12/hard-to-handle-1969-1971.html You know where to find me…………………. Rock on!!! Doc I existed in a world that never is - the prison of the mind………….
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It took me years to get the system streamlined after chaotic slog of tapes, CD's, CD-R's, iPods, PC's, laptops, car stereos, etc. Everything is organized and easily accessible with at least one version of each show the played (along with thousands of other shows from other artists) on one drive. CD's on another. All my music is now ripped into FLAC and ALAC formats. My home stereo plays all the FLACs and my phone drives the ALACs for the car, at work, etc. My CD's only leave their case once for about 15 minutes-enough time to read the liner notes and admire the artwork. After that, everything is on a hard drive or a portable device.
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Seems like an eternity to wait for delivery. I'm becoming increasingly excited for this new release.
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Tuned in after the release of the Cornell box to add to the glee, but the mood was so ugly that I stayed away from these boards for months. I can't stand the moaning that accompanies EVERY release, and that includes the moaning about a tiny corner of page 78 of the liner notes being creased. Loved the movie the other night! What amazing energy! Can't wait to hear the 24-track rendition. It's probably been previously hypothesized, but I'm guessing that we'll see a Summer '89 DVD box next year, from the Solstice show through Alpine, minus the previous releases. Like Mickey implored at the end of Fare Thee Well--"Be kind." :)
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I love to hike while listening to the Dead, and I prefer CDs with my portable CD player. The players only last about 3 years, and I'm on my 10'th one or so. However, they don't make good Walkman-style CD players any more. You can't buy them. I ordered a few unsold new ones made years ago for sale online from a store in, believe it or not, Turkey. These should last me another decade - then I don't know what I'll do.
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I pre-ordered, of course. It's been a long time coming; there used to be quite an excess of 1989 releases; Nightfall of Diamonds in 2001, Truckin' Up To Buffalo in 2005, Crimson White and Indigo AND the Hampton Box in 2010. However, that's been thinned out of the last 7 years, with nothing beyond the 10/26/89 show from TTATS. I'd say we're due. I'm by no means an expert in 1989, but I figured that if we were going to touch Summer '89 again it would be Alpine Valley, which are universally acclaimed. If not, I remember the Giant's Stadium shows both being superior to 7/12/89 (which is still a good show). I do not have fond listening experiences of 7/13/89, but admit it has been a while. 10/19/89 may be the best remaining unreleased show of the year, and the only MUST-HAVE from 1989 for me (aside from the already released 10/16/89, which is the best of the year).
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Thanks to everyone who answered the format question :) I have been using Apple Lossless for the last few years. I got into high res FLAC for a while, but I converted them down to 16 bit ALAC...I honestly can't tell the difference...maybe I am getting old...LOL. Everything lives on an external HD and goes through iTunes.I mainly use iPod touch with Sony wired headphones. I used to really like the portable CD players, but haven't seen them in a long time. I pretty much rip CDs as soon as I get them and put them up. I have to sit through 12 hours of dialysis every week so I don't know what I would do without the music P.S. What does everyone think about the Long Strange Trip film? It has really opened my eyes...
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'Twas foretold - 5/9/2017 GSTL
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Apple lossless is fine but you will notice an improvement if you convert a lossless file to WAV format. I store everything as Apple lossless but when I want to listen to something, I convert to WAV, listen, then delete WAV files when I'm done because those files will be bigger... Essentially it is like unzipping a zip file? Not an expert but I can tell there is a difference there Lossless files contain all the information you need in really small packages... Not the best way to hear things though Trying to expand files that were not meant to be expanded (anything but lossless) will not improve sound quality Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong, but I encourage you all to compare file types for yourselves... We are getting somewhere
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