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    The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

    ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

    When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

    “RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

    Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

    Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

    For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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  • icecrmcnkd
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    Take the friendship and quality medical care for now....
  • FloridaBobalooToo
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    One VERY VERY WISE man!
  • mhammond12
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    Don't do anything that could possibly cause regrets. Don't do anything that could ruin what you already have with her. She's in a relationship. Let her know how much you appreciate her but don't cross a line. She's in a relationship. If there's something there the next step should be her's. I always told my kids "A moment of stupidity, a life time of regret." To your continued recovery my friend.
  • Gary Farseer
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    I had been trying to decide whether to post this but seeing y'all post about hippy chicks or girls and the dead I guess I will. I truly do believe in the universal cosmic mind or group mind. As I have been sick and very sick for a big chunk of 2017, I had to have home health. Of course, part of it was insurance based but part of it was private pay. Family and friends use one gentleman as a handyman for various homes, farms, etc. His lady was tasked with being my private nurse as she is retired (right now, could change as demand for nurses is out of control). As she was connected through the family/friends it was a discounted rate, in case you think I live in the King's castle. But I was so sick that my family could not handle all that was going on with me. Well not going get into all the details but she started to visit me when I was staying with family as I was in and out of the hospital 4 different times for a total of 40 days. When I finally got home on March 18th and quite frankly scared of being alone, she showed up the next morning. I had just had final surgery on March 16 and when I woke up in the middle of the night, two of the wounds were not properly sealed so my night shirt with cap (ok not that) but my underwear and sheets had a lot of blood on them. She did not panic, thankfully, and kept me calm and contacted the surgeon. That all worked out. The first few weeks she came every day, 2-3 times a day. She was so kind. She came and checked out wounds, changed dressing, and flushed drains that I had in me. She also prepared 2 meals a day for me. Turns out I worked for her father's law firm as I worked my way through undergraduate school. So I knew her dad. She knew my folks as well. It is a small southern town. One day as she was fixing me scrambled eggs we were talking about our youth and all. She is actually 9 years my senior but a drop dead gorgeous blonde. We were just talking about life and Karma and all, like is my illness the result of something I was being punished for? I told her I used to be wild, but do not believe that Karma played a reason for illness. We continued talking about traveling and stuff. I told her I have traveled a pretty good bit as I was a Grateful Dead fan when I was younger. She responded, oh, I was a Grateful Dead fan when I was younger too. Well ding ding ding. We now had that instant connection. This was still in late March. Her last medical visit was Friday. In that interim we spent so much time together. She saw me at my worst, the weakest physically with open infected wounds and all. We had profoundly deep conversations. Around the end of May I started to show her some of my musical collection to which she was floored. Understandable since most of us on here are kind of in that 1% of deadication. I finally got my first shower in late May. And man, 5 months without a shower makes you really appreciate something so simple and how pleasurable that is. Of course to shower, I had to have her there as I was and still am a fall threat (label of medical community). So as I showered, I would play her various eras of dead music. Last Monday I played the acoustic set from Radio city with the Ripple and all. So here I sit on Monday really conflicted. First of all, she has a man. However, they are not married but do live together. Before I met her my sister had been asking me some questions about life and I told her that the wierd thing is I have had more than a few married females make it clear that they enjoyed my company. But single ladies I seem to run off. Of course, we all know the strength and weaknesses of the female dna (how is that for tact) so I am not going to speak more on that. So I can tell that she seems to want me to press on this issue. There in lies the dilemma. Her fella is a family friend but he is 10 years older than her, a workaholic, kind of running out out of steam but is supper kind. (Btw, her man saw Hendrix at the 1970 Atlanta Pop Festival). So I am all melancholy over what to do. I had written when I first came on this board that there were few if any heads around here. The ones I have met are all in there early 20's so they never saw them. All have been kind but as I am 30+years older do not have a lot to talk about. So to meet the first female head in my area has just floored me. Of course, I am also trying to rationalize my thoughts as it relates to reverse Florence Nightingale syndrome. I really do not know what to do. You all have pointed out the opposite of "tragedy narrowly averted" when it comes to ladies and concerts and all. I am ordering for her Reckoning Expanded for her personal kindness. I am also ordering her the book "The road less traveled" as it is a great book on healing. So I know she will be back to receive those gifts. I also will need some additional surgery later this year so I am sure she will be helping me with that. Just cannot decide to speak honestly about my fondness for her or not. I have been trying so hard to not allow my fondness to grow for her but she is so sweet, patient and loving that it is hard to do. I know she has a fella but like I wrote earlier, I have had several married ladies press me. I know it is because I am kind (and usually have the kind, smile). So I know that usually I speak more to a woman's heart than most of their husband's and her man does. I know it all starts because I actually listen to them and respond accordingly. I know none of you here are this way but a lot of guys take what they have for granted. It is easy for me to connect but I have never stepped over the line. All I can ponder is the discussion with my sister and how it was my sister that got this cute little deadhead to be my nurse. Now I really do not know what to do. I think I am just going to present her the gifts and let her know that she will always have a very soft spot with me for all of the help that she has provided. Sorry for the rambling. Does anyone have any advice?
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    Seriously funny stuff.. completely cracked me up.
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    Omigosh, man, that reminds me of me, though your stories win by some miles. For me it was just one girl I was hopelessly, helplessly enamored of and kept thinking that seeing a great show together might spark something that was, in hindsight, never going to happen. Our first "date" was Jethro Tull ~ fine show until we couldn't find my car for about an hour afterwards. Then came Pittsburg '89, which we drove to together from Baltimore. As recently recounted, I never did hook up with my ticket connection ~ I gave her the one we had in hand, and watched her head in while I eventually had a front-row seat to the nationally televised riot after ticketless heads rushed the gates. Next came JGB that year, when she spotted her most recent ex and spent the entire post-show having a heart-to-heart with him as I waited nearby (after hurrying us along with "I'm tired" when I'd tried gushing with my own friends minutes earlier). Spring '90, third night Landover. Pre-show, she took a nap in my car rather than hang out with me in the lot. As soon as we got inside, she ran into yet another ex-boyfriend and left on the back of his motorcycle after the show. That's okay, at least I saw the Black-Throated breakout from the 9th row ~ where she'd refused to join me, having already told ex she'd be sitting behind the stage...just before my friends offered us the upgrade. There's yet another entry, 3rd night Nassau a week later ~ but you've heard enough. Yes, I was a sap. But we remain dear friends to this day. Spacebro, Appreciate the shout-out for 6/14/91. The finest post-Brent show, and stadium show period, that I saw. Pre-drums was to die for (Help > Slip > Franklin's > Estimated > Dark Star...are you kidding?). Then again, I missed RFK the year before, which by all accounts was the bomb. But backpacking in Europe that summer (and Asia that Fall) was a pretty great excuse....
  • FloridaBobalooToo
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    It never worked well for me. Especially outdoor shows in the Florida heat. At The Who's 1982 tour stop in Orlando, my date dropped from the smoke( Maui wowie high grade) and the heat. She had to be lifted over the front of stage barricade. After the show she wandered out and looked like hell. Poor lass! Another time at Rush in Lakeland another date decided to puke all over the guys ahead of us. Red jungle juice all over this dudes tour shirt. Total calamities. I had to buy the guy another shirt to keep him from going ape shit.Had yet another date at Pink Floyd in Orlando mid 80s try and get back together with her ex she spotted in the crowd! I just couldn't win! Now with my wife of 24 years we have no issues as she is a non partier and likes to stay away from the insanity. Suits me fine. Oh yes The Stones Tattoo You tour 82, and a different girl. She passed out in the heat and had to go to the first aid station for fluids! Only to get in my Trans Am on the way home and fill the passengers floorboard with vomit that was so nasty, the smell refused to leave the car and cost me a nice chunk when I traded it in on a new ride. Like in Seinfeld that smell could not be erased. The salesman actually asked if someone had died in the car! Thanks Babe!!!
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    Sonuvagun you're right. Mule is in Grand Rapids tonight, not Rochester. Obviously I didnt have tix yet, but I was going to bust out of work and head right down to Meadowbrook. None of my usual concert buds wanted to go, and I was wondering / hoping someone from here might be there. Guess I dont need to bother. Have fun, man, tell us about it tomorrow. Mule and Galactic, dayum! I shoulda been more on top of it. Meijer Gardens is a great venue, small and intimate, like a club, but outside. As I recall they're kinda stingy about smoking there, tho. Saw Umphreys there a couple times. Jim -- thx --- I like to use the story of me, Mrs. Deadguy, and my roommates old S10 to help explain to folks who don't understand why I love going to shows so much, why they're such a big part of my pursuit of happiness. Figured most folks here would appreciate it.
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    I hear you Dave. I have been hit or miss on relationship GD love. Mostly miss, but always tolerance, I do expect at least that level of support. It's one of those things you have to discover for yourself, you can't push people into it. My first love was and still is a deadhead.. perhaps I should have stuck it out. Oh well, revisionist history I guess. On a related note.. in my tiny, tiny town (or at least close to it) we are getting the John K Band this weekend playing at a local bar/restaurant/music venue. He's from DC so its only a three hour drive for him. He did some sort of echo tour with one of my neighbors a few years back, so he's no stranger to recreating in the mountains here.. I think it was flat water kayak mountain lake related, the guide is an older hippie but not really a deadhead and had absolutely no idea who John Kadlecik was. It was only after it was over he pieced it all together. Anyway.. sorry for the side-bar.. The local music scene here is mostly bluegrass or shoddy cover bands, getting some better dead related stuff shines a ray of sunshine on the local scene.
  • daverock
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    That's quite impressive. I saw 5 myself. Well-4 and a half. At the middle night in London-Halloween 1990-my girlfriend of the time joined me to see the band. She had always been indifferent to them-but on this night-of all nights- she decided she hated them. Well, it wasn't so much the Dead, as the Deadheads. Sorry guys-hopefully it wasn't any of YOU. We happened to be sitting in a particularly smoky and rowdy section, and after the first set ended I decided enough was enough and we left. Otherwise there might have been carnage-she was very beautiful-but you wouldn't want to mess with her. It was a great set, too-arguably the best of the run. I saw them on my own either night of Halloween-both great shows to my ears-but the 31st was the ONE. I have never heard Govt Mule-although I their name crops up a lot. They are playing in London soon, so maybe I should go. On my own.
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RFK Stadium 1989 Box

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The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

“RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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Was a pretty good year for me too. Started off with three fun shows at The Forum in my hometown of Inglewood in February, nice To Lay Me Down and jammy Playin' on the first night, Eyes out of Space on the second then the just weird third night with Spencer Davis (I had no clue who he was, hey I was 16!) and then Dylan, Monkey And The Engineer? Sure, why not! Not the tightest show, but an awful lot of fun. Then the band swung around again at the end of April to Irvine Meadows, three very solid shows, the band was just on fire this year, whole run is really well played, last shows at Irvine. Riots in the parking lot so it's understandable... And to cap off the year, they returned to The Forum in December, opening night was real good, another solid show, Blow Away turned out to be a real nice addition to the repertoire. I for one was a fan of the MIDI but I seem to be in the minority. I like silly sounds, sue me! This show ended on a bad note with a police officer breaking my jaw with his baton (no arrest, ticket, nothing...), didn't deter me from going back the next two nights! Touch Of Grey was the perfect opener for the 9th, another solid show and then the 10th, best show of the 9 I caught by far, with the return of Spencer Davis (even better than in February) and Hornsby joining the band as well. This was a really solid run of shows that would make a nice mini box. Didn't realize how good we had it back then, 3 great runs of shows right in my backyard in one year. Great times.
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These shows are like hitting the multi-bonus - shows with both Wolf and Tiger recorded on multi-track, throw in Hornsby with Brett, good times abound. I didn't see any shows this year - got a really cool tie dye (Love to Cook) from a girl I was dating from the Foxboro show - I was away visiting my brother in Paris that week. Been a great year of releases - hard to imagine next year topping this year, but if that's true time to do the happy dance.
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This release got me thinking on how much good music there still is in the vault that needs to be given the royal treatment and released. Especially with the return of the Betty's! More boxes please, from the 60's to the 90's you can count me in on all of it. What should be next?......?.......? ARK BOX!!!!! So many of us missed out on the FW box, please, please please bring us an ARK box! I don't think these shows are limited, will probably run like the Warlocks box... available until it isn't.
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While I'm personally disappointed in this box, DL has said more than once they will follow the sound and only release the best quality sounding shows. I would gobble up any box from 1983 but the cassette recordings aren't worth it in comparison. Fortunately the found trove of Betty shows still has much left to mine.
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Got my first listen to DiP26 Labor Temple/Electic Theater. Man that is a beast mode Pick. Loved, can't wait to revisit soon. I also revisited D&C in Atlanta. Watched the entire show, it was very tasty. Forgot about the Days Between that Bobby ripped on. Great Job guys. It hit me like a ton of bricks that just stumbled across that during this years days between. Really made me feel the Karma. As soon as finished it, You Tube served up live Phish, #13 of the dozen. Not going to add my two cents worth on the multiple discussions on Phish. I like them, but to get served up a live freebie (well say 50 minutes) was a great way to close out the weekend before the big crash. Phish can still find those weird jams at will, good job to those guys. Keep up the good work. Also over the weekend got my 2nd listen to DaP23, close encounters. Loved it even more. GSTL has been played a couple times through as well. All in all, a great jamming weekend. Thanks to all involved, including the folks in Colorado that make it all extra special. G
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Couldn't agree more. I'd love to see an 83 box, or a box with a run anywhere 83-86. On the other hand I'm going to buy the flacs for these 89 shows. That was a special year. Always loved 04/19/86. One strange show where they tried something different. But as you said, the tape quality just isn't available. Still, if they could fix up what they have I'd be all over that. As far as Dave's goes and the recent boxes, I couldn't be happier with them. The sound quality is just jaw dropping. Betty is one amazing "taper". Before I had any tape resources back in the mid-70s I used to buy bootleg Dead LPs in the back room of a barber shop in Amherst, MA. I could never have imagined having what's available today.
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And I 100% agree that we should not get all pissy about someone elses favorite era. It's all Dead & it is all good. For me, I just think Dave gets too hung up on sound quality. I've always been a performance guy who preferred a good audience tape to a stale soundboard anytime (though the Betty's are the exception to that rule). For me, It hink 89-90 was a peak. Not necessarily THE peak ('72, '77, '69, '73), but a Brent era peak for me. I do not like the midi as much. '69 is peak trippy experimental Dead with TC on keys providing a layer of depth beyond what Pig alone could do, and we get the beginnings of the Hunter/Garcia tunes. '72 is best of both worlds. Keith's piano, Pigs vocals & harp &( some of the best playing ever. The Workingman's/Beauty/Garcia/Ace stuff is incorporated. Legendary. Billy manning the skins alone gave it some swing & subtlety. '77 forced them to practice more to reintegrate Mickey after '76 was kind of loose, and it showed. As tight as it ever got. Blistering often. The Terrapin/Shakedown/Blues for Allah stuff gets integrated fully. Help/Slip. Terrapin. Scarlet/Fire. Samson. Estimated. Shakedown. 'Nuff said. '73: height of the post Pig no Mickey era. After that, I put '89-'90 right up there in terms of a peak of an era (Brent). However, I can still see liking '70 (acoustic shows + Beauty/Workimgman's stuff debuts), '71 (Pigs last mostly full year with super peaks despite the lineup changes), '74 (Wall of Sound) or even '76/'78 (a little looser but also some great stuff if a little more inconsistent). Early Brenth ('79-'82) is fine. I listened to DiP#13 the other day & it is smokin'. Would love a full release of an '80 acoustic show, or the Anchorage. I like '85 for the 20th anniversary & the energy of '87 after the comeback. '67-'68 is great for a single show, but there isn't much variation night to night. '88 was a litte inconsistent. '91 was interesting with a lot of the Bruce influence and swing returning. Everyhing else is a steop down for me. '66 is cool for the start. '75 had only 4 shows. Nice little recovery in '93 for a while. '83, '84,'86, '92, '94, '95 have moments, but little sustained brilliance. A show here and there in '83 & '84. Just moments at the end. Still, the first Unbroken Chain in '95 still gives me goosebumps 20+ years later just thinking about it.
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That's a great one Gary Farseer. I may put it on next. Odd that they opened and closed with Lovelight. I would understand better if it was a big long "sandwich", but there is a break in there. Anyone have insight into that one. I put on DP 19's Dark Star. Yoww! First off, I'm doing headphones. Second off, there's an effect I have on my player that puts reverb on the music. Not so great for vocal parts (sounds like the heavy reverb on the May '77 vocals, but much more). But it's great for intrumentals like Dark Star. There is a huge Mind Left Body jam in the middle of Dark Star. Face melter. And Morning Dew & Eyes of the World are still coming. And then it is DP 26 for me. The Eleven is on my radar now.
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One of my favorite releases was Crimson, White & Indigo, also from July 89'. Both CD & DVD full performance, even took the cheesy effects off of the video for full viewing pleasure. Why not release with a DVD? Even if you don't have both shows complete, you atleast have the one that was just featured for Jerry Day. Good shows from a great tour, as DL says there's more "famous" shows. I'd pay lots for proshot release from Fall Tour 89' if exists. Miami, Philly, Meadowlands.... One wonders what they've actually got in the vault video wise from 89', an obviously heavily documented year, as they continue to release videos for the GD movie meetups. Yeah, good shows. I probably wont buy this time considering that i've got the boards already, and not being an audiophile like some ya'll fine folks, the nuances are lost on me. But yea, release with video, Please!!
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....i hear ya muhlberg. Some people here must have canine hearing. Is that a blessing or a curse?....As long as the sound isn't too muddy, I'm all in....
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....it appears Innerspace is on Netflix. Guilty pleasure ensuing....things seemed so much easier back then. Am I wrong?....
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Remember the traffic JamsMini 2 box that's all folks
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Very insightful post about the eras. I didn't see it last night somehow when I was on here. You mentioned 1972 as best of both worlds - I feel the same, although it's not my favorite year for Pigpen songs. Next Time You See Me, Mr. Charlie, Chinatown Shuffle, Good Lovin' all decent but overplayed on E72 I felt. I would like to have heard Smokestack Lightning, School Girl, and more of those '72 Lovelights. Maybe a few Alligators, maybe Empty Pages. Some talk about the audio quality. I get that the shows need to sound good to be released. I'm too picky, but some of those shows from 30 Trips were "emergency only", meaning, it's okay since the theme of the box is a concert per calendar year, but definitely too poor to represent a two show box set like RFK. Or imagine if we got two in a row from Dave's Picks that sounded so poor. There would be a lot of complaints I believe. Even DaP 22 from the Felt received a lot of negative feedback about the audio quality, and that was one I thought was way better than those few 30 Trips shows that I think everyone agreed were poor sounding. Just my 2 cents on why Dave puts so much emphasis on audio quality. What they could do, however, is make them available for download at a reduced price. Holy cow, this is a righteous Truckin' / The Other One on DaP 11. Doc, no '71 link? I actually listen to those.
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Wow. Word for word I could not have said this better. Me and you sure think alike!
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What's with the price of $65 for six discs? That's almost $11 per disc? Is this about the music or the profit? As an observation prices seem to be creeping up and up - and as I read the product "colorful slip case", it will be a cardboard/paper box, but colorful.
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At my age, 70, I am not that picky about what decade show I listen too. I just pick a show...pop it on my cd player...get a cold St. Pauli's...fill my pipe up with a good "Latakia" blend tobacco...fire it up...and sit back and enjoy the show. It all sounds great to me and I hope to live long enough to listen to all my shows at least once more! Mr. Pete--------> aging hippie
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I like you attitude! And once you've popped the disc in your CD player, I guess the only really difficult decision is which of your extremely cool, Turkish, hand-carved, Dave's-inspired meerschaums goes best with the show. . . Onward aging hippies everywhere!
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I ordered because I have been loudly and repeatedly calling for more 80s. These are not shows I really want and the price and slipcase are not what I want either. But I will put my money down to encourage an 80s-inclusive future release plan. I think the price is the result of a perception that this release risks being unprofitable. After years of comments here declaring a dislike of 80s Dead among the GDM audience, I think TPTB have good reason to worry that this will be a low-selling, slow-selling release. Their business model seems to rely on quick sell-outs to keep the release ball rolling. The higher product pricing here should translate into a higher profit-per-sale, potentially offsetting any costs that would result from slow sales (inventory storage, etc). That's my theory. Minas: I found your last two posts in this thread (and the recent ones in the DP23 thread) pleasant and easy to agree with. If you haven't heard the entire 4/26/69 show, seek it out. It runs 2 1/2 discs and is superlative, even for '69. I no longer remember were I found a lossless downloadable copy, but it is out there and can be combined with the 4/27 DP26 material to make a 4 disc home-brewed "Deluxe Edition" that is VERY satisfying.
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Wow brother, that made my day.... Long may you run.... Still missin' Jerry here....
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Looks like sales are creeping along. I predict it will take a year or so to sell the last couple of thousand like the July 78 box.
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It my humble opinion one should just buy the box set and sit back and "enjoy" the music. I am VERY appreciative that I can buy the concerts and sit back and enjoy them since I was unable to attend either show. I doubt if one could find any better quality sound for these two shows.Regarding the comments about the cost just go out and price one truck tire. That will put things in perspective. Or, look at your cable bill. Now that is something to complain about. I do hope I live long enough to see a nice Greek Theater boxset come out. I was never able to go to any of those shows but from what people say/comment I am sure it would be wonderful to have them in a nice well recorded set. Mr. Pete-----------> aging hippie
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As this theme continues to reoccur, my two cents... Dead.net and Rhino don't need the money. Yes, this is a "for profit" enterprise, but it has already proven itself over and over. The subscriptions continue to rise as do quick sellouts of so many releases. The fan base, even after all this time, is expanding - at least here. It's like the vinyl resurgence and not altogether different. In an ever more bullshit, digitized throwaway world, people are rediscovering the inherent value in things like Grateful Dead music and vinyl records. Some are over-thinking it. Sure, there may be bean counters somewhere monitoring this but the whole thing has been so splendidly done from the esteemed Mr. Latvala on through to Dave L., they are clearly motivated 100% by artistic reasons. Best sounding shows from any era. Some say the Dead died with Pigpen. I think not, I think they changed and adapted like any organism needs to, to survive across eras and personnel changes. The late 60s through 1978 are my favorite era, but I love Brent when he wasn't overbearing vocally and all through the 80s and 90s right up to the end. Old Jer spit out a pretty decent Black Muddy River there, eh? These folks have to tend to the greater good, and it's mostly gonna be 70s releases. It really was their golden era. Golden, not as in dollars, but as in musically.
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Plan to buy the flacs once they're available . I have enough stuff in my life but never enough Dead. Every era is a treasure. Listen to the music play.
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Ok Folks...There are many naysayers out here posting. I will share once again what I heard David L. say on last Sunday's special on this box set on SiriusXM. He said this set would be "extremely limited". He also said that it will for sure "Sell Out". David L. tends to know what he is talking about. Just because there is no mention of "limited edition" or "numbered edition" in the advertising thus far...does not mean it may not end up that way. I personally believe David when he shares insights...thats just me. Look at the track record of all of the releases over the last 10 years. The Road Trips series for example was slow to sell for a long time...now they sell for hundreds of dollars over original asking price and are very collectable. It could be that not listing this set as a "limited numbered edition" is a way to keep the scalpers at bay from snatching them all up for resell on Ebay...perhaps a way to give those who are truly interested in owning the music a better opportunity. Just look at the irate posts from the last Daves Pick that sold out in hours. "In the end it will all be okay...if its not okay now then it certainly is not the end"
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9-1-1974 Keystone Wondering Why... get some :)
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Looks like Neil Young is about to put his entire archive online.http://neilyoungarchives.com/index.html So if he can do it....... Now that would solve the constant bickering about eras and releases. Everything for everyone any time a la carte.
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That is very cool - kind of makes me wish that I was a bigger Neil Young fan. GD does indeed already have this in the form of the Interent Archive which was formerly the tol.etree.org collection. Made by fans for the fans, just the way it has always been!
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Don't get too excited. It's Neil Young, the novelty will wear off and he'll abandon it. How're those PONO adopters feeling right about now? How about the Archives 1 Blu-Ray buyers with their exclusive updates? Amounted to 3 songs which are no longer available. He flirted with DVD-audio, how'd that work out? Blu-Ray audio, lasted just about as long. Neil first mentioned releasing the archives in the mid-70s! He started seriously working on them in the mid-80s and it took until 2009 for the first box to come out!
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Your post reminded me that both Winterland boxes ('73 & '77) were never promoted as "limited edition" either and the W'77 box goes for about as much as the FW'69 box does in the secondary markets. No idea how many of those W'77 boxes were manufactured. If they put as much love and care into mixing the multi-track tapes for RFK'89 as they did S'90 (TOO) box, this will truly be a magical release with sonic perfection. For a little taste of what to expect, "Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues" from 7/12/89 can be heard on "Postcards of the Hanging" (track 3), and it's crisp, phat and a beautifully mixed recording. This has been the best year in GD releases since the 50th anniversary with Boxilla. Last year wasn't too shabby either with the July '78 box. The Red Rocks July run was always regarded highly among the tape trading community, plus Betty boards of shows that have never circulated. Still surprised that one's still available.
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Don't confuse the man with his music! The guy has been a flake since day one! His music is one thing. His track record as a regular guy leaves a lot to be desired. You would not want him as a neighbor I assure you.
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King Crimson have been putting up concerts for years on their site as downloads. In fact, 11-12-73 Turin, Italy was just put up for purchase today!
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themidnightcafe.org is a site I've used to download many GD shows that haven't been released officially. It is a labor of love that isn't ripping anybody off. Through it the spirit of Jerry lives. Many of the shows are from the archive and have been cleaned up and pitch corrected. These shows are from ALL the decades, kids, and many have undergone that Charlie Miller magic. There are also shows from many other bands. All downloads are through Amazon Drive. You can choose between FLAC and MP3s. Enjoy. https://themidnightcafe.org/?s=grateful+dead
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....that is a goldmine Dave. Amazon has a drive? Am I getting too old, or is technology just buzzing by fast as lightning? I need to start doing some homework....
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Just downloaded a speaking engagement from Hunter S. Thompson in '77.goldmine indeed Thanks David! :)
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Yup. Eyes-> 16:07 Saint 7:32 Eye's starts off a little clunky but gets goin' real good pretty quick... get some :)
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I see the fever is catching. I've been following him for awhile now, and filled up an entire 128GB memory card without really trying. In fact, I'm pretty sure I learned about it from one of these threads. "It was you, alright! I learned it by watching you!" (Free download at the midnight cafe for anyone who remembers that commerical.) One thing I will mention. Awhile ago he reluctantly set up a facility for donations on the page. Amazon recently jacked up their rates for cloud storage, and he has something like 4TB out on his drive. He was contemplating dropping some stuff to put him in a lower price tier, but got enough donations to keep it all for the time being. So consider that if you're enjoying the site amd using it a lot. Been on a Summer of 76 kick for most of this summer of 17. Starting with RT 4.5 from Boston, download series 4, a great run from Chicago at the end of June (all of them acquired from the midnight cafe), then I jumped ahead to the Orpheum run. Haven't gotten to 7-18 yet, but its locked amd loaded. I really like that easy, loping 76 vibe, it just says summertime to me.
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Also dig that '76 sound, although the official releases are real hit or miss for me. I love RT 4.5, Cow Palace, and DaP 18, but can't get into DaP 4, DP 20, or 30 Trips. DP 33, I really go for the 10/9 show with Franklin's Tower (one of the best), but not so much for the 10/10 show. DL Series is about halfway between, definitely some great moments on it (Crazy Fingers, U.S Blues, Mission in the Rain). I
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my guess is that it will be limited edition based on pre-orders and a bit of inventory upon the release date. with 2000 copies left of the 78 box (a great box!), they're aiming to avoid the costs of inventory sitting on the shelf. i think that 78 box faced a tough sell coming after the 50th - so much great music was released that there's a legit case for many to think, "well, how much more Dead do i need?"
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