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Whatever the current version of Furthur is up to, discuss it here!

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October 28, 2011 - 8:41am

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let it grow

hey gonzo,i agree that it's great they're out doing it; it's not that i don't like it or can't stand it or anything. just left with a feeling of "oh......." which as i mentioned, really frustrates me as i've never felt this way about any other Dead-related band: Phil & Friends i love, Ratdog, Scaring The Children, Rhythm Devils (with Tim Bluhm, not Keller), 7 Walkers (a massive fan); i've no qualms about John Kadlecik, no "it's just not Jerry" bullshit from me. what really irritates me is i don't know why it isn't happening for me. maybe it will grab me when i least expect it, when the set and setting materialises in it's own good time. doesn't help that i can't see them live of course; no home sound system will compensate for that experience. some kinda mental block maybe. oh well...
October 28, 2011 - 6:42am

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God knows you're not alone, Jonapi

There are a lot of deadheads (still, a minority) who just can't dig Furthur. It just doesn't click for them. They can't stand different members singing other member's songs or a number of other things. I think it's, again, an acquired taste and not everybody is going to like it. It's just so cool that these guys who used to play for silver now play for life. Furthur has a foundation and is helping people through different grants. Mostly, at 52 years old, I am just so freaking happy that I have some music to love and dance to and a scene to gather around. I guess my problem is that my taste doesn't go beyond bluegrass and jam bands. At least you've got Wilco and probably a dozen others to keep you happy.
October 28, 2011 - 5:07am

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alone in the rain yet so it goes

good man, gratefaldean!and yes, apologies for diverting the topic into wilco territory! back to furthur indeed. although personally, i just can't get it at the moment; lord knows i've tried. it actually really rankles that it isn't happening for me. which is strange, as i like to immerse myself in the flow and let my spirit take it where it may. it really shouldn't bother me yet it does. maybe it will come in time. presently, i'm left feeling apathetic. all good things in all good time, i guess.
October 28, 2011 - 4:22am

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gratefaldean

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Another Wilco taste

If you get a chance to see the Neil Young tribute concert on TV or DVD, Wilco does a very-Wilco version of "Broken Arrow." I was speculating over what they may have played at the show -- my first knee-jerk was "Tonight's the Night," but then thought that emotionally it would be a tough one to play with Neil sitting there in the front row (though I've heard the Pretenders cover "Needle and the Damage Done" opening for Neil, so go figure). My next guess was "Sedan Delivery," but I was hoping for "Barstool Blues." "Broken Arrow" was a complete surprise to me, but then it seemed not surprising at all. Not for nothing, I've always thought that the closing guitar coda on the album version of "At Least that What She Said" sounded like it came right out of the Neil and Crazy Horse songbook (pre-Nels joining the band, which definitely changed the lead guitar dynamic). I do love Wilco. Furthur too, to get back on-topic.
October 27, 2011 - 10:59pm

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indeed

Yeah, i second that one Oroboros!Saw them in a wonderful old Art Deco cinema in East London called the Troxy; great venue. It was Jeff's birthday. You will love them live. Glenn Kotche and Nels Cline are fantastic musicians.
October 27, 2011 - 8:39pm

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Wilco

Thanks for the kind advice Oroboros. I just might!- I see Wilco's coming here to Los Angeles in January- and tix on sale tomorrow-
October 27, 2011 - 8:39pm

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Wilco

Thanks for the kind advice Oroboros. I just might!- I see Wilco's coming here to Los Angeles in January- and tix on sale tomorrow-
October 27, 2011 - 5:28pm

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Oroboros

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Wilco puts on a tremendous show!!

Jeff Tweedy's lyrics and the rest of the band's auditory additions are simply outstanding. Do yourself a favor (one kind favor?) and catch them live. You won't regret it. We are planning a run to KC to catch Wilco next month. These guys are a real treat!
October 26, 2011 - 7:43am

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Wilco

Thanks jonapi, definitely will check those out. Never heard of Wilco before, except now that I think of it- maybe in the "what are you listening to right now" forum from time to time...:)
October 26, 2011 - 5:07am

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blowing me down i was buried in sound

Oh PalmerEldritch...BOY are you lucky if you're new to Jeff Tweedy and Wilco! You have a fantastic catalogue of music to check out. An wonderfully emotional band.Incredibly poignant songs; beautiful lyrics. experimental, richly textured Americana that the world is crying out for. Here are some examples: Enjoy!

John Perry Barlow

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Whatever the current version of Furthur is up to, discuss it here!

I don't know about that. It would be like calling a certain british band The Rolling Stones if either Mick Jagger or Keith Richards were to leave it. When Jerry Garcia left, the Grateful Dead was over. What the remaining members of that band do in the future can't be called that and this is largely why they have not toured under that name since 1995. "When it comes to humility, I'm the greatest!" - Bullwinkle Moose

the name "Grateful Dead"...

... has been retired to honor Jerry Garcia and the entity that toured for 30 years with 5 core members. Stardom and fame were brought to those who took up the burden of the dead beings still wandering in the bardo (the space between death and rebirth). Those beings still have power to influence from that state. When Phil opened up the dictionary on that fateful day in 1965 and opened up to that entry and put his finger on "Grateful Dead" he sealed the deal. Whether the name is used exactly as it is or not, there will always be musicians who are more or less doing wandering expired beings a favor and having that favor returned more than 100 fold. No wonder the GD did so well on the days of Halloween and celestial events such as solstice. Whether or not any of the above is true, it is usual and customary to retire the name of any long-running entity when it ceases to exist in a fundamental way from what it was. It's a sign of respect. Carrying the burden of the dead, allowing them to experience vicarious thrills through the still living is a wonderful and awesome burden. The Grateful Dead pulled it off with style.

Good Points

Understood...Furthur it is...

My 2 cents

for what its worth, which may not be much, but here it is. I feel that the name Grateful Dead should be retired. Jerry Garcia is a musician of the importance of Mozart, Bach or Coltrane. This music would not exist without him. The Grateful Dead does not exist without him. However, the music he was such an integral part of is too important to be relegated to the past. It needs to continue. Like all great art it has too much to say to let it die. My 2 favorite names of the post Garcia era have been The Other Ones and Furthur (these were coincidentally my favorite post Jerry incarnations of the music). The Other Ones denoted that the remaining band members were still here and the music was still vital. Furthur denotes that the music is being carried on into the future. These names, both of which have historical significance to the scene, indicate that Jerry is no longer physically with us but his genius lives on. Long live Jerry and long live the music!

And My 2 Cents

As hard as it was Zepplin did the right thing when John Bohnam left us, they disbanded Zep. John Bohnam was the engine for that band with his hard bluesy drumming which could not be duplicated. Unlike The Who who have been on 2 or 3 farwell tours, it kinda leaves a bad taste in your mouth when they call it quits then show up next year. I fell blessed with the shows that I saw with Jerry and I think Billy, Mickey, Phil and Bobby have done the right thing with The Other Ones, Furthur and Billy and Mickeys drum projects. We can all be thankful they all just did'nt Fade Away.......

Furthur, July 2, Camping at or near Columbus, Ohio

I have been out of the area for awhile. What are some good camping options around the July 2 venue? Your advice and direction would be appreciated. "Get in the bus."

Just so you know.....

If any of you going to Angels Camp & camping, there's RV hookups @ the Sonora County fairgrounds. It's a nice place & not too far from Angels Camp. Looks like from Furthur's website, you'd need a car to bring into Mt.Aire. If anyone knows how to post this on philzone, please do so.....have fun

Did you all see the Gathering of the Vibes announcement?

Weeeeeeeeee, now it's Furthur for sure. Gathering of the Vibes Headliner ~ Furthur Furthur Site Pretty much the whole family is gonna be there! Rythym Devils, Donna Jean, NRPS, David Gans, Steve Kimock, and many more! The aforementioned Primus as well. _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!

I've heard Gathering of the Vibes has always been a favorite

Any that reads this thread gone before??_____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!

Canyon

you might find some discussion in the Favorite Summer Festival topic. I've gotta say, that's a pretty great lineup!

Thanks Mary

For some reason forgot about that thread._____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!

Speaking of Festivals

Hey Mary, Can we have an all inclusive Furthur~Festivals Topic in that forum? I looked and found a few things on gathering but not much. Since they are playing a bunch of them, how about a topic that is all inclusive with Furthur Fest, All Good, Gathering of the Vibes, Nateva, and what ever other fests they happen to hop on this summer. I've always liked festivals because of the diversity factor, many good bands I love, and the family fun camping time. _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!

hm. Okay...

lemme see what I can figure out.

I love camping festivals too

But it would be nice to not have to make a 3000 mile road trip and have to take a week or 2 off work to go. The music "festivals" here are lame to say the least and never include camping. "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"

AH HA!!

That's it!!! I need to become a music promoter!!! "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"

Yes Mark That's It!

Then we can take the whole family along for all the festivals...Good plan. The only other idea I had was to win the lottery and I promised everyone here that if I did, I would buy a Leer Jet and Tour Bus strictly for the Dead.net family. Then we could pick everyone up across the country/world, and tour. hahaha~I let you know how that works out when I'm 90. _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!

Why not call them the

Why not call them the Grateful Dead ??? My opinion is if you would do that....there's always the possibility of Too Many People showing up for the shows again... We do not need the Gatecrashers around again!! i think they are doing the right thing by staying under the radar of national attention!

here's that Furthur/fests topic

http://www.dead.net/forum/summer-fests-2010-furthur-and-beyond

Question about the Summer Tour...

I am curious to know if the girls are still gonna be singing with Furthur this summer???? I thought they added so much to the music, the harmonies were right on. Sometimes, the band had a JGB element to it, when they would bust out an After Midnight or Dear Prudence, w/ John and the girls singing behind him.. Gonna be sad if they wont be tagging along for this one.. Its almost like the Grateful Dead when Mickey Hart left the band, they were a much more basic unit, at least until Keith arrived. But, i have no doubts that the band can pull its own.. They are so awesome on so many levels.... They really need to release a Double Live CD w/ the Gratest Moments of the Winter Tour. So much good stuff to choose from....

Jamez I do Believe so

I really enjoy the girlz Sunshine and Zoe....I think they add just enough to cover up the semi fainted voices we have from just the boyz just getting older. And they compliment the youngster quite nicely as well. I'm pretty darn sure they are helping with the summer tour, I do know I haven't heard differently. Anyone else heard anything? I mean besides a baby or a family disaster, I think they are gonna be there. _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!

For those In Cali...Enjoy!

FURTHUR "Live Rehearsal Sessions"Monday May 24th and Tuesday May 25th at the The Palm Ballroom, 100 Yacht Club Drive, San Rafael, CA Doors: 6:30 PM / Showtime: 8:00 PM. All ages permitted for this show. Furthur~Go to Furthurmore Friday _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!

have fun!

should be great!

Last nights Rehearsal

The setlist was sweet and it answered some questions. Compliments of the Philzone and the poster was first posted by Canyon (not me) and the setlist is compliments of Rob Scalcione (Rscalcione) both cool zoners.

Furthur Rehearsal Sessions The Palm Ballroom San Rafael, CA Mon. May 24, 2010 8:30pm - 10:50pm Happy Birthday JC Juanis Shakedown Street > Good Lovin' Mississippi Half Step > Brown Eyed Women Cumberland Blues Althea Looks Like Rain The Wheel > Reuben & Cerise > Uncle John's Band Scarlet Begonias > Fire On The Mountain Back up singers: Sunshine Garcia Becker & also Jeff Pehrson who is from the duo Box Set. So to answer someones question from before....so far it looks like Jeff Pehrson is gonna replace Zoe Ellis for now (don't know for sure but I think she's having a baby). John K. sung a ton of the songs too, and from what I hear Joe Russo played really, really well solo! _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!

Thanks for Posting

going 2nite so I will post this evenings set list when I get back!

5/25 Rehearsal

Correction: Furthur Rehearsal Sessions The Palm Ballroom San Rafael, CA Tues. May 25, 2010 8:30pm - 10:50pm After Midnight Bertha Speedway Playin Eyes Stephen Eleven Unbroken Chain Fantasy Truckin Smokestack Lightning Truckin E:Ripple

No Audio Taping for the Furthur show in Ottawa, Canada

Looking forward to the boys playin' in my home town and I hope they record their own show for downloads cause the official word from the organizers of the fest say that NO audio taping is allowed.............sorry y'all

Taping

I wouldn't think that the organizers of a ferstival would have any say on taping. Plus why would they care? To allow taping or not should be up to the band. "Lazy lightning you say you never strike the same place. I want a double dose in any case ... You got to hear my supplication. Got to hear me now. A little bolt of inspiration"

Feds

They're tight-assed in the capital... wanna keep a leash on everything. Even things they have no say about...

krs10

you say it K!

Taping

Since it has 5 stages outside and 1 inside they are probably worried that other bands will be taped. Welcome to the goverment town...........also kown as suckin' central.............

Suckin central

I've never had much love for that bureaucratic town, too conservative for my tastes. They don't understand what it means to give it away... gotta account for it in the budget! No, seriously, I've played a few good shows there and the cultural community is pretty alive in Ottawa, but the vibe of the town has always creeped me out. They get all that extra funding for being the capital and all...

The Ottawa goverment

Runs/controls/manages music festivals? That is creepy! "Lazy lightning you say you never strike the same place. I want a double dose in any case ... You got to hear my supplication. Got to hear me now. A little bolt of inspiration"

Ottawa Bluesfest

The goverment or "The Man" as we say does not run, manage or control this festival. It is run by a seperate private group that started the festival in 1994. Altough this festival gets funding from the goverment cause it is a huge tourisim draw and some acts cost a lot of money to play. Dylan played a couple of years ago and I heard that his cost was $500,000. The last couple of years they have also put on free shows in our downtown market with some big names, one good free show this year will be Taj Mahal.

I've got 21 days...

to go a little Furthur,than I've gone. See ya'll real soon! --------------------(---@ Peace, SherBear

Parking lot scene for Lowell?

I'm taking the family (my wife and I, and 2 boys: 9 and 12) to the Lowell, MA show later this month and am wondering what to expect in the parking lot. I went to 70 or 80 shows between '79 and the passing of Jerry, and to me the parking lot was always almost as enjoyable as the concert. But I've since been on "hiatus", and I don't know what the current scene is like. I remember that, as it got into the 90's, things were degenerating, with lots of yahoos and nitrous and whatnot. The plan is to show up 2 or 3 hours early,do some tailgating, and enjoy the people. This is an early, 6 o'clock show, outdoors, general admission at a minor league ball park and I'm guessing that it will be relatively family friendly, but am looking for comments and reassurance. Also. my 12 year old would like to set up a little table and try to hawk some really cool wallets that he has been making out of duct tape. Will he be hassled by the powers that be? What do you all think?

West Coast Love

Check out the new tour!!!! on the furthur site. Jackstrawfromcolorado can you say Red Rocks 2 nights??? Love it man!!! This band is on fire. There's a dragon loose on the town Takes a whole pail of water just to cool him down Fire! Fire on the mountain!!

Ok I'm almost done jumping around the kitchen

And yes I can say .... 2 nights on the rocks!!!!!!!!!! Maybe now I can stop kicking myself for missing mnt aire!! "Lazy lightning you say you never strike the same place. I want a double dose in any case ... You got to hear my supplication. Got to hear me now. A little bolt of inspiration"

Congrats!

jackstraw and deadturtle - they heard you! They're coming to your beautiful backyard. Wish I could join!

krs10

You should get your passport ready, take care of what you need to take care of, and make some travel plans to Colorado! :-) "Lazy lightning you say you never strike the same place. I want a double dose in any case ... You got to hear my supplication. Got to hear me now. A little bolt of inspiration"

Highland Bowl

Finally, only 20 days left till summer tour kickoff right here in our beautiful little Highland Bowl! Welcome Deadheads from near and far to Rochester! 26 years on the bus and still enjoyin' the ride!!

Furthur at Angel's Camp

Ok, I am going to try and avoid the superlatives, of which there are so many that I have trouble coming up with enough good things to say. Without a doubt, the band is just getting more and more in "the groove". Three days of insanely great music - if you haven't heard about that late night set after the so-called day one "sound check" (more like sound wreck my head, build it back, and then topple it again just for the fun of it) then allow me to elaborate. Start with Viola Lee, then segue into a couple of tunes, then back to Viola, but wait... switch out the bass and lead guitars for a different duo to come back into Viola, going from Phil and Jackie Green to Jackie taking up the bass with Bobby playing guitar, then back to Viola after a couple more songs until Jorma and Jack come out to play with Bob and close it after a few more great Hot Tuna standards with the final Viola verse. Just insane. If anyone knows where I can find the tape of that set then please hit me up... timlake at homegrownvideo dot com. Looks like just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back IN!!! Summer tour, here I come. Just counting my blessings that I am fortunate enough to be able to take my laptop out and keep my day job... Farrell Timlake president, Homegrown Video timlake@homegrownvideo.com

Love this band!

I've been perusing the archives for some time now and listening to Bojangles this past winter blew me away. Phil is singing his heart out here folks. The Box of Rain almost gave me a nervous breakdown about my recently passed away mother. Phil you warlock! It's not nice or fair to unleash the power of this song on unsuspecting people! Even people who suspect! But thank you for the current ride. Nuthin' left to do but :), :0, :)

al

Hoping to join you in Rochester. Coming from Toronto by boat - perfect way to escape the G20! I'll have to see about Red Rocks, Jack. Never been and always wanted to go. Set aside most of my vacation $ already into 2012... but I'll see what I can do to take care of it =)

Make a Swap

I have an extra ticket for the 6/26 show at MPU Park looking to trade for either show at Nokia Theatre in July. It is a field GA.

Hey Western Heads - new shows!

Check out the Furthur site for recently added shows for Sept in Denver, WA, Oregon, & CA!

All Star Jam Angels Camp 5.28

Far L...couldn't agree more about the All Star Jam...fucking blew my mind (and my ear drums). If you find a recording of that or Sunday night's albums please post. I got arrested entering the the venue with my stash around 6pm Sunday night. Shit was well hidden but the lame ass security searched me like I was Bin Laden. Fucking diks then called over the sheriff to really fuck me. Got out at like 1am so I totally missed the show! Oh and to make it even worse it was my birthday!