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    i only saw the dead once in inglewood 2009... but never the grateful dead. i will, though see further! can't wait!
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    On Wednesday, August 31, 2011, Bruce Hornsby and The Noisemakers (J.V. Collier, John “JT” Thomas, Bobby Read, Doug Derryberry, & Sonny Emory) take the stage at Beekman Beer Garden Beach Club (located at 89 South Street, New York, NY 10038) to deliver a show inspired by all genres, pop, jazz, bluegrass, country and modern classical music. Hornsby is a songwriter at heart who is committed to portraying his songs in new ways that allow them to evolve and expand. Joining them will be the Marco Benevento Trio, who is best known for his articulation on the piano. Marco continues to define himself as one of the most prolific new voices of his era, blurring genres from song to song, and more often from measure to measure, with his own take on simple pop pleasures, dance party rave-ups and art jazz experimentation. In their outdoor venue with a great view of the Brooklyn Bridge, Beekman Beer Garden wows guests with two bars, a lounge area, a stage for live music, and table games such as Foosball, Ping-Pong and billiards. It has been called an “adult sandbox” by The Gotham Palate and was given thumbs up on their food options, which range from Burgers to Seafood to German Sausages to a variety of sides and snacks (full menu can be viewed here http://tinyurl.com/63a28hj). Wednesday, August 31, 2011 18+ $39adv $45dos Doors 5pm/Show 7pm http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=103537363076176
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    please play Smokestack Lightening bobby used to do that really bluesy growl when he sang it thank you
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    i am glad this band still tours. sure it's not the same as being in Hebron OH with Jerry singing "...by the waterside I will rest my bones ...." but if I was expecting that from a band without Jerry Garcia, to me, it would be akin to asking why doesn't my square fit into your circle? Like, how could it? anyway, I also remember Arlo with Furthur years back.....hearing Alice's Restaurant was un-real. bobby doing hound dog, black crows. i will say that those early furthur fest's were incredible, all day, rock your socks off events. gates opened at like 2pm, and it was ON....until you simply fell out from sheer delightful exhaustion! it would be cool to see something that size again go about the country. i might be inclined to do that tour. at 38, Id better do it before I get too old, eh ;) see you all in Eugene! "...fields of fragile thunder..."
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    Ha, ha! Don't we humans just love complicating matters?!!But seriously though, folks, i hope my comments don't come across as too critical or mean-spirited or a "downer". Real hard to see what they read like in another person's mind. I am writing it with nothing but a big smile, a twinkle in the eye and a rippling excitement in the fingers. I'm certainly not "bashing" Furthur, by any means. Far from it. I have enjoyed listening to some of their shows. There is some wonderful playing and it is has been my great pleasure to lose myself in their flickering jams; like bobbing in warm water, the brain gently rocked in it's cradle. I definitely don't sit there "anal(anal?)ysing" the music furiously. No way. Not what music means to me. Let it wash over you and warm your heart. I truly believe if one let's that beautiful human ability of intuition, of spontaneity, of open improvisation to manifest itself, to flower and bloom in the most natural way (what makes life so INCREDIBLE! we truly live in a universe of sheer WONDER) that we cannot "control" what the music means to us. When it's happening, when it's "on", and the joy and warmth in your heart begins to rise, then complete surrender is the only logical state to exist in. I'm sure Furthur will do that for me at some point. Just cannot explain why my mind can start to wander, to drift off and not fully "connect". It's by not thinking at all; by being so completely open that i've seemed to arrive at these feelings, so i have to honour that emotion. Would be disrespectful of me not to. And i certainly don't mind the "slowing down", ha ha!! I heartily encourage it!! As i get older too, (nearly 39 and counting), a more languid pace is the more appealing. I really enjoyed the Scaring The Children sets at Jam Cruise, and Ratdog's laid back approach to the Dead cannon. I love hearing songs completely reduced to a crawl. I think it can open up a whole world of possibilities in their meaning. I find that by "versioning" songs in my own head, hearing what they would sound like if the framework was almost on the very verge of collapse, makes you hear the words in an astonishing way; they can sound positively incantatory. (Helps of course when the words are the quality of Hunter's/Weir's/Barlow's - Lesh's too!). A little example...... A slight fork in the road here folks, just a little tangent, so forgive me - I was listening to the Grateful Dead, i do believe it was 9/16/90 - Madison Square Garden (but could've been 12/29/77 - Winterland) while doing overtime at work, the year of 2004, July 24 ; my father was terminally ill with cancer; visited him at home in his bed that morning. Told him a joke and made him laugh, my lasting memory (for the record? "What do the donkeys on Blackpool beach get for lunch? Half an hour..." Guess you had to be there....!). Mid-morning and suddenly, THAT phone call comes; "Has he?..." "Yes..."; dying, thankfully, in my mother's arms. While locking up and making my way straight to the family home, i realise that the time at which he died, coincided with Bob singing "Looks Like Rain". It certainly does... That was when the song began drifting through my mind, entering my consciousness with the most natural of ease, like it was just meant to be there (just absolutely PERFECT), on my way to catch the train, in the slowest version ever (not) heard. That ending vocal refrain, in that wonderful song, almost spoken so slow instead of sung, the melody almost buckling under the funereal pace, became revelatory. Try it with other songs, in your own head. They shine in a completely different way. (Thurston Moore does a great slow take on The Beach Boy's "Here Today", that is well worth listening to). I don't know. Maybe putting these thoughts to paper (screen), only makes you travel in more and more circles. Is it really necessary? Is any "criticism" or point view worth a ... Can sometimes have the ability to generate chinese whispers, and the original emotion can twist and turn and you end up going off at a tangent. Er, what was i saying again?! Case in point? Please see above... Knowing me, i will probably fall head over heels after one glorious "meeting" with Furthur and then not even recognise the person who wrote what he wrote! (will probably happen tonight too, just to reinforce a position of "the butt of some great Cosmic joke"!!). I guess the Dead in it's many hydra-headed forms and configurations compel this kind of "deep thinking" (or waffling)!! How many other bands can stir such emotion? Thanks everyone, especially lamagonzo, for the replies. Feels good.
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    I didn't know listening to Furthur could be so complicated... "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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    Think you missed some of my point. Which is that you can't help getting old. Getting old makes you slow down. It's not a conscious thing. These guys are late 60s, over 70. Unless they're mainlining human growth hormone they are going to slow down. These days I feel Furthur shows are like (pardon my drug metaphor) a heroin nod with an occasional ride on Casey Jones train. I'm perfectly happy to go but I think you'll find me dreaming dead dreams and surprisingly few of us who saw Jerry play getting up and dance unless we really feel like it and/or it's out favorite song or suite of music. This is my view. To each his own. I'm just a crusty ole' Deadhead. You want to hear tails of days gone past keep passin' the kind. I get the feeling you're a COD yuhself jonapi, just speaking about those wide-eyed Furthurtheads looking at me with those wide-eyes, hoping against all odds to climb out of a time machine. ~ Just one thing for me ~
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    I agree about Jerry and the respect issue; you can almost hear that throaty, bubbling laugh of his and see the raising of an eyebrow.As for The Dead '09, well i thought some of it was interesting; being a lover of drums and percussion, there would be no danger of myself taking a toilet break during that section! The "sounds of the universe" injections were most welcome. Wished they could've prolonged/interacted with those sounds a bit deeper (hard to tell from the speakers, but another "visionary" human at the sound desk would've been good; pan those sonic booms across the stereo spectrum in a righteous radical fashion.....damn, why does every Head always think that they could do better??!!!!). Not sure what you meant by "maybe the drummers are tired of playing Dead music" though; both are still playing the music. I thought Tim Bluhm was a great addition to the Rhythm Devils, Andy Hess too (i'll gracefully skip over Davy Knowles' american-accented vocalisations...!). And Bill still seems to be the only one adding a fresher slant to the Dead repertoire, in 7 Walkers. Witness the recent shows with the mighty Kirk Joseph parading that sousaphone; inspired. The performance of "Death Don't Have No Mercy" in the Relix basement, while not mind expanding, had WAY more feel and swampy soul than anything Furthur are going to muster. As for "a taste of what it used to be like"? With all due respect, i'm going to pass on that. I don't want a taste of something that has already evaporated into the ether. The Grateful Dead finished in 1995. Any similar ambience is, at best, illusionary. I too appreciate the evolution of the musicians, any musicians, but especially those shining "core four"; the times have certainly changed. I'm just hoping that some of those involved may recognise it a little more and truly blow our minds. (I don't buy the "mellowing with age" application; i don't think anyone's asking for coruscating noise and avant garde auditory strafing, but resting on that comfy cushion of predictability sure does leave one witha feeling of gentle lethargy). I know, i know... too much of this criticism helped drive a stake through the heart of the Dead's later years; all that expectation makes for a heavy weight on a human being who just wants to play their instrument. But i shudder to think that any "recreations" and "playing it safe" is a conscious decision on Furthur's part; the cold, kiss of death i feel. I'll take it for what it is. I'll continue to go with it. How long is another matter. I get the feeling Furthur might not go with it for much longer either. But as long as they're still playing music i'll be there. Every step of the way. Just to see what happens. I do believe it. I certainly need it. I'll leave it if necessary. And i DARE them to get WEIRDER!!!!!!! Thanks so much for replying to my initial post. It's really appreciated. Kynd indeed.
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    Glad you enjoyed your shows; too bad about the parking lot scene. I recently checked out the website for Red Rocks and WOW! That looks like about as nice a venue as I could imagine!I went to my first Phish show earlier this week. It was fun and they played my two favorite Phish tunes (Bug & Antelope). But I'll definitely never have the passion for Phish that I have for the Grateful Dead family of bands. Still had a good time though. It was interesting timing after reading Blair's blog post and all the comments about other jam bands. I guess I see the Phish vs. Dead thing as a false dichotomy - two totally different animals and no reason not to enjoy both if one is so inclined.
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I don't know about that. It would be like calling a certain british band The Rolling Stones if either Mick Jagger or Keith Richards were to leave it. When Jerry Garcia left, the Grateful Dead was over. What the remaining members of that band do in the future can't be called that and this is largely why they have not toured under that name since 1995. "When it comes to humility, I'm the greatest!" - Bullwinkle Moose
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... has been retired to honor Jerry Garcia and the entity that toured for 30 years with 5 core members. Stardom and fame were brought to those who took up the burden of the dead beings still wandering in the bardo (the space between death and rebirth). Those beings still have power to influence from that state. When Phil opened up the dictionary on that fateful day in 1965 and opened up to that entry and put his finger on "Grateful Dead" he sealed the deal. Whether the name is used exactly as it is or not, there will always be musicians who are more or less doing wandering expired beings a favor and having that favor returned more than 100 fold. No wonder the GD did so well on the days of Halloween and celestial events such as solstice. Whether or not any of the above is true, it is usual and customary to retire the name of any long-running entity when it ceases to exist in a fundamental way from what it was. It's a sign of respect. Carrying the burden of the dead, allowing them to experience vicarious thrills through the still living is a wonderful and awesome burden. The Grateful Dead pulled it off with style.
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Understood...Furthur it is...
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for what its worth, which may not be much, but here it is. I feel that the name Grateful Dead should be retired. Jerry Garcia is a musician of the importance of Mozart, Bach or Coltrane. This music would not exist without him. The Grateful Dead does not exist without him. However, the music he was such an integral part of is too important to be relegated to the past. It needs to continue. Like all great art it has too much to say to let it die. My 2 favorite names of the post Garcia era have been The Other Ones and Furthur (these were coincidentally my favorite post Jerry incarnations of the music). The Other Ones denoted that the remaining band members were still here and the music was still vital. Furthur denotes that the music is being carried on into the future. These names, both of which have historical significance to the scene, indicate that Jerry is no longer physically with us but his genius lives on. Long live Jerry and long live the music!
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As hard as it was Zepplin did the right thing when John Bohnam left us, they disbanded Zep. John Bohnam was the engine for that band with his hard bluesy drumming which could not be duplicated. Unlike The Who who have been on 2 or 3 farwell tours, it kinda leaves a bad taste in your mouth when they call it quits then show up next year. I fell blessed with the shows that I saw with Jerry and I think Billy, Mickey, Phil and Bobby have done the right thing with The Other Ones, Furthur and Billy and Mickeys drum projects. We can all be thankful they all just did'nt Fade Away.......
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If any of you going to Angels Camp & camping, there's RV hookups @ the Sonora County fairgrounds. It's a nice place & not too far from Angels Camp. Looks like from Furthur's website, you'd need a car to bring into Mt.Aire. If anyone knows how to post this on philzone, please do so.....have fun
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Weeeeeeeeee, now it's Furthur for sure. Gathering of the Vibes Headliner ~ Furthur Furthur Site Pretty much the whole family is gonna be there! Rythym Devils, Donna Jean, NRPS, David Gans, Steve Kimock, and many more! The aforementioned Primus as well. _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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you might find some discussion in the Favorite Summer Festival topic. I've gotta say, that's a pretty great lineup!
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For some reason forgot about that thread._____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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Hey Mary, Can we have an all inclusive Furthur~Festivals Topic in that forum? I looked and found a few things on gathering but not much. Since they are playing a bunch of them, how about a topic that is all inclusive with Furthur Fest, All Good, Gathering of the Vibes, Nateva, and what ever other fests they happen to hop on this summer. I've always liked festivals because of the diversity factor, many good bands I love, and the family fun camping time. _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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lemme see what I can figure out.
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But it would be nice to not have to make a 3000 mile road trip and have to take a week or 2 off work to go. The music "festivals" here are lame to say the least and never include camping. "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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That's it!!! I need to become a music promoter!!! "Here's my half a dollar if you dare .. double twist when you hit the air. Look at Julie down below .. the levee doing the dopaso"
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Then we can take the whole family along for all the festivals...Good plan. The only other idea I had was to win the lottery and I promised everyone here that if I did, I would buy a Leer Jet and Tour Bus strictly for the Dead.net family. Then we could pick everyone up across the country/world, and tour. hahaha~I let you know how that works out when I'm 90. _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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Why not call them the Grateful Dead ??? My opinion is if you would do that....there's always the possibility of Too Many People showing up for the shows again... We do not need the Gatecrashers around again!! i think they are doing the right thing by staying under the radar of national attention!
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I am curious to know if the girls are still gonna be singing with Furthur this summer???? I thought they added so much to the music, the harmonies were right on. Sometimes, the band had a JGB element to it, when they would bust out an After Midnight or Dear Prudence, w/ John and the girls singing behind him.. Gonna be sad if they wont be tagging along for this one.. Its almost like the Grateful Dead when Mickey Hart left the band, they were a much more basic unit, at least until Keith arrived. But, i have no doubts that the band can pull its own.. They are so awesome on so many levels.... They really need to release a Double Live CD w/ the Gratest Moments of the Winter Tour. So much good stuff to choose from....
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I really enjoy the girlz Sunshine and Zoe....I think they add just enough to cover up the semi fainted voices we have from just the boyz just getting older. And they compliment the youngster quite nicely as well. I'm pretty darn sure they are helping with the summer tour, I do know I haven't heard differently. Anyone else heard anything? I mean besides a baby or a family disaster, I think they are gonna be there. _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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FURTHUR "Live Rehearsal Sessions"Monday May 24th and Tuesday May 25th at the The Palm Ballroom, 100 Yacht Club Drive, San Rafael, CA Doors: 6:30 PM / Showtime: 8:00 PM. All ages permitted for this show. Furthur~Go to Furthurmore Friday _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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should be great!
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The setlist was sweet and it answered some questions. Compliments of the Philzone and the poster was first posted by Canyon (not me) and the setlist is compliments of Rob Scalcione (Rscalcione) both cool zoners. Rehearsal Poster Furthur Rehearsal Sessions The Palm Ballroom San Rafael, CA Mon. May 24, 2010 8:30pm - 10:50pm Happy Birthday JC Juanis Shakedown Street > Good Lovin' Mississippi Half Step > Brown Eyed Women Cumberland Blues Althea Looks Like Rain The Wheel > Reuben & Cerise > Uncle John's Band Scarlet Begonias > Fire On The Mountain Back up singers: Sunshine Garcia Becker & also Jeff Pehrson who is from the duo Box Set. So to answer someones question from before....so far it looks like Jeff Pehrson is gonna replace Zoe Ellis for now (don't know for sure but I think she's having a baby). John K. sung a ton of the songs too, and from what I hear Joe Russo played really, really well solo! _____________________________________________ Will you come with me? Once in awhile you can get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right!
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going 2nite so I will post this evenings set list when I get back!
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Correction: Furthur Rehearsal Sessions The Palm Ballroom San Rafael, CA Tues. May 25, 2010 8:30pm - 10:50pm After Midnight Bertha Speedway Playin Eyes Stephen Eleven Unbroken Chain Fantasy Truckin Smokestack Lightning Truckin E:Ripple
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Looking forward to the boys playin' in my home town and I hope they record their own show for downloads cause the official word from the organizers of the fest say that NO audio taping is allowed.............sorry y'all
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I wouldn't think that the organizers of a ferstival would have any say on taping. Plus why would they care? To allow taping or not should be up to the band. "Lazy lightning you say you never strike the same place. I want a double dose in any case ... You got to hear my supplication. Got to hear me now. A little bolt of inspiration"
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They're tight-assed in the capital... wanna keep a leash on everything. Even things they have no say about...
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you say it K!
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Since it has 5 stages outside and 1 inside they are probably worried that other bands will be taped. Welcome to the goverment town...........also kown as suckin' central.............
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I've never had much love for that bureaucratic town, too conservative for my tastes. They don't understand what it means to give it away... gotta account for it in the budget! No, seriously, I've played a few good shows there and the cultural community is pretty alive in Ottawa, but the vibe of the town has always creeped me out. They get all that extra funding for being the capital and all...
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Runs/controls/manages music festivals? That is creepy! "Lazy lightning you say you never strike the same place. I want a double dose in any case ... You got to hear my supplication. Got to hear me now. A little bolt of inspiration"
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The goverment or "The Man" as we say does not run, manage or control this festival. It is run by a seperate private group that started the festival in 1994. Altough this festival gets funding from the goverment cause it is a huge tourisim draw and some acts cost a lot of money to play. Dylan played a couple of years ago and I heard that his cost was $500,000. The last couple of years they have also put on free shows in our downtown market with some big names, one good free show this year will be Taj Mahal.
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to go a little Furthur,than I've gone. See ya'll real soon! --------------------(---@ Peace, SherBear
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I'm taking the family (my wife and I, and 2 boys: 9 and 12) to the Lowell, MA show later this month and am wondering what to expect in the parking lot. I went to 70 or 80 shows between '79 and the passing of Jerry, and to me the parking lot was always almost as enjoyable as the concert. But I've since been on "hiatus", and I don't know what the current scene is like. I remember that, as it got into the 90's, things were degenerating, with lots of yahoos and nitrous and whatnot. The plan is to show up 2 or 3 hours early,do some tailgating, and enjoy the people. This is an early, 6 o'clock show, outdoors, general admission at a minor league ball park and I'm guessing that it will be relatively family friendly, but am looking for comments and reassurance. Also. my 12 year old would like to set up a little table and try to hawk some really cool wallets that he has been making out of duct tape. Will he be hassled by the powers that be? What do you all think?
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Check out the new tour!!!! on the furthur site. Jackstrawfromcolorado can you say Red Rocks 2 nights??? Love it man!!! This band is on fire. There's a dragon loose on the town Takes a whole pail of water just to cool him down Fire! Fire on the mountain!!
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And yes I can say .... 2 nights on the rocks!!!!!!!!!! Maybe now I can stop kicking myself for missing mnt aire!! "Lazy lightning you say you never strike the same place. I want a double dose in any case ... You got to hear my supplication. Got to hear me now. A little bolt of inspiration"
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jackstraw and deadturtle - they heard you! They're coming to your beautiful backyard. Wish I could join!
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You should get your passport ready, take care of what you need to take care of, and make some travel plans to Colorado! :-) "Lazy lightning you say you never strike the same place. I want a double dose in any case ... You got to hear my supplication. Got to hear me now. A little bolt of inspiration"
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Finally, only 20 days left till summer tour kickoff right here in our beautiful little Highland Bowl! Welcome Deadheads from near and far to Rochester! 26 years on the bus and still enjoyin' the ride!!
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Ok, I am going to try and avoid the superlatives, of which there are so many that I have trouble coming up with enough good things to say. Without a doubt, the band is just getting more and more in "the groove". Three days of insanely great music - if you haven't heard about that late night set after the so-called day one "sound check" (more like sound wreck my head, build it back, and then topple it again just for the fun of it) then allow me to elaborate. Start with Viola Lee, then segue into a couple of tunes, then back to Viola, but wait... switch out the bass and lead guitars for a different duo to come back into Viola, going from Phil and Jackie Green to Jackie taking up the bass with Bobby playing guitar, then back to Viola after a couple more songs until Jorma and Jack come out to play with Bob and close it after a few more great Hot Tuna standards with the final Viola verse. Just insane. If anyone knows where I can find the tape of that set then please hit me up... timlake at homegrownvideo dot com. Looks like just when I thought I was out... they pulled me back IN!!! Summer tour, here I come. Just counting my blessings that I am fortunate enough to be able to take my laptop out and keep my day job... Farrell Timlake president, Homegrown Video timlake@homegrownvideo.com
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I've been perusing the archives for some time now and listening to Bojangles this past winter blew me away. Phil is singing his heart out here folks. The Box of Rain almost gave me a nervous breakdown about my recently passed away mother. Phil you warlock! It's not nice or fair to unleash the power of this song on unsuspecting people! Even people who suspect! But thank you for the current ride. Nuthin' left to do but :), :0, :)
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Hoping to join you in Rochester. Coming from Toronto by boat - perfect way to escape the G20! I'll have to see about Red Rocks, Jack. Never been and always wanted to go. Set aside most of my vacation $ already into 2012... but I'll see what I can do to take care of it =)
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I have an extra ticket for the 6/26 show at MPU Park looking to trade for either show at Nokia Theatre in July. It is a field GA.
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Far L...couldn't agree more about the All Star Jam...fucking blew my mind (and my ear drums). If you find a recording of that or Sunday night's albums please post. I got arrested entering the the venue with my stash around 6pm Sunday night. Shit was well hidden but the lame ass security searched me like I was Bin Laden. Fucking diks then called over the sheriff to really fuck me. Got out at like 1am so I totally missed the show! Oh and to make it even worse it was my birthday!
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Damn man I hate hearing stories like that, they make me cringe. "Lazy lightning you say you never strike the same place. I want a double dose in any case ... You got to hear my supplication. Got to hear me now. A little bolt of inspiration"
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me too. So sorry to hear this.
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searched ya @ the gate? geez-what's this world coming to??? sorry to hear about your troubles