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    RFK Stadium 1989 Box

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    The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

    ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

    When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

    “RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

    Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

    Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

    For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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  • #1221
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    My first GD exposure was 8 track. Ha.. that's one medium I wont miss. I guess I had a bad machine, it kept eating all my tapes. It was really a bad technology... Cassettes were much more reliable.. and contrary to popular belief, I do not see them making a robust comeback. My prized Nak died about ten years back.. the belts had all dry rotted and it started to play reeeeaaaaalllllyyyyyy sssslllllloooooowwwwwww. There is no advantage to cassettes over CD's as far as I can tell, and a lot of drawbacks. I do see the Vinyl appeal, but 8 tracks and cassettes, I just don't see this becoming a wave.
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    The limited announcement yesterday did what it was meant to do in piquing my interest, but I'm still on the fence. These could probably be broken down to 4-5 discs, and there probably won't be any filler, and once again I'll be miffed at short discs, though this time for 65 bucks for 2 shows. I think I'd find 5/8-9/77 as a 2 show box for 65 bucks to be pricey, so it has nothing to do with Brent or '80s hate. I actually like Summer '89-Summer '90 a lot, they were playing at the peak of that incarnation, as evidenced by how much of it's been released. (But feel free to throw this post back at me if they offer a 2 show box of RFK '73 for the same price and I buy it the minute it's announced, because that would likely be my reaction to that RFK box.) The book is probably nice, and I love the books in the boxes. The books are what I really miss about Spring '90 and Europe '72 (though I really love the idea of the steamer trunk). If it's around next year and I got the extra cash, I'll get it. If I miss out, I'll survive, and enjoy the subscription for Dave's 2018 and next year's big box.
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    Since 15K is the number
    5K will be added to the available quantity at some point. It's gone down exactly as I posted it would, although I'm surprised they're going with 15K. They still started with 10K and are now down to 3800 - 3900. Sales, Space Brother are at 6200 roughly, which leaves about 8800 left (5K which muse still be added). I'm not sure what numbers are "more or less brisk", but these are the facts. Brisk is relative I guess. Bottom line is that a good seller is great for us all.
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    I hear eight-track is on the rebound. Might want to fish around the yard sales for one of those Panasonic boom boxes with 8-track, AM/FM and a cool shoulder strap for rocking the 'hood. At least they still make D-cells. Glad to see the RFK '89 box going limited. Why not? I like physical product. Blu-ray's, cd's, more than just download. That being said I fleshed out my missing Dick's Picks off iTunes for a fraction of the cost of what the cd's have gone up to now. There's something reassuring about the certainty of a tangible, physical product on my shelf, should (God forbid) my laptop get stolen/destroyed, hard drive crash, etc. I have so much music from so many sources - friends who have kindly loaned things, items from the public library, iTunes and other downloadable sources, etc. It would be impossible to remember it all, were it to be lost or corrupted, however I know those cd's sitting on the shelves aren't going anywhere and as much of a pain in the ass it is to burn them all in, it's a 100% backup. I have Carbonite cloud backup as well as a portable hard drive but I don't trust it. That pole freak on Veneta is the ultimate acid casualty. Most people made it through but some of them just fried. If that dude is still breathing, he's drooling right now.
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    I have two Blue Ray and a DVD in the living room.. I found myself nodding to what the Ice Cream Kid had to say.. mhammond too. Thin is clearly correct in what he wrote.. but I have one subtle comment to add. I got into a back and forth email chain with Lemieux a few years ago about DVD's, etc. I think it was when the other Alpine show came out, and I missed it due to work.. so there was a little bite in my initial outreach. He did reply.. at length. Keeping in mind.. he was hired as the video archivist as Dick was still alive and well back then. His comment was layered, he was clearly keeping certain things close to his chest, but it was revealing nonetheless. I think the issue with video in general is the market is more segmented and aggregate demand has not justified all the costs involved getting this to market (my words, not his..). The 16,500 number (soon to be higher) is a magic number for vault releases in 2017. Keep in mind Terrapin Limited is still for sale, I'm quite sure it is limited and it has been for sale since 1997. There are tons of deadheads but not everyone has to have the 150 or shows that have already been officially released (what is that number again?). At this point, it is a numbers game for them and contrary to popular believe, once everyone (including the band) gets their cut I doubt if there are mountains of money left over. So back to the video topic.. Dave is all in with video releases. The hesitancy is not on his part. Rhino sells CD's and records.. DVD and Blue Ray is more like an after dinner mint for them.. if they sell and they make a ton of money on them, they'd do more. Reading between the lines from the correspondence all those years ago, there simply is not a terrific demand for GD DVD's. I can't get enough myself, but I say the same thing about the official CD releases too. Another factor is very few were recorded on film, most (the 89 and go forward material) was recorded on the crappy 4" tape common at the time. Find your favorite 1989 sitcom, go to YouTube and watch it.. it's grainy and has the same limitations as the stuff directed (recorded) by Len Dell'Amico during the late 80's. The video will not get better regardless of the medium as the source tapes are subpar. The sound, on the other hand, can benefit from the better mediums... depending on a few things... But look at this another way.. they do have a good bit of video recorded, some of it is pretty damned good. Most of it does have those distracting special affects baked right in. It will get released one day, perhaps they are just keeping their powder dry for when demand picks up a bit. If there are still some SSDD left and I bet they have a ton of the Fare Thee Well left (back to the numbers thing...) my guess is they are just biding their time and will begin releasing them when demand exceeds their magic number. I do prefer Blue Ray, it could be a dying medium, probably because it costs more and people are streaming a lot these days. Us hard-core, especially the audiophiles, will want DVD or probably Blue Ray. I really don't see that changing, streaming is not going to take precedent over the physical product for the person that just shelled out $12,000 for their new surround sound system. ..but who knows for sure what the future will bring except that quack Ray Kurzweil (yes.. I said that). If you made it through this post.. congrats and accept my apologies.. dry stuff.. but we like the GOGD and there's nothing boring about being there, front row center in the comforts of your own living room.
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    I was about to guess it's a hipster thing, but apparently Justin Bieber had something to do with it.Which doesn't make sense either way...
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    Spacebro - You are correct, sir. I forgot there was a DVD/Blu-ray segmentation in the Veneta release. How many Blu-rays did they produce? I don't recall how fast the DVD's sold out. I guess I passed on that because I didn't have Blu-ray AND I'm not enthralled with DVD vid quality, which is like a 720 vs 1080 pixel format (if someones previous post was accurate). I didn't really want to see Polesitter dude in 1080 OR 720 pixels - LOL. As I said earlier, I hope for both our sakes that they continue with the '89 releases. There's a ton of great stuff from that era sitting in the vault. Once the video format gets sorted out, I think we'll see a LOT of '89-'90's releases. re: Cassettes - I've heard they ARE making a comeback. Martin Sexton was on "Above the Basement" recently (highly recommended Boston-area music podcast) and he mentioned that he recently issued his recent release "Mixtape from the Road" on cassette as a novelty item and said they sold out of 1,000 of these in just a week or two, to his amazement. I blame the "Guardians of the Galaxy" movie series for romanticizing the format. https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/above-the-basement-boston-music-and-co…
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    Dead.net, please put the packaging dimensions in the description. I'd like to buy this but I need to know if it will fit on a CD shelf. I've been burned too many times on oversized packaging to blind buy a Grateful Dead box set ever again without knowing he packaging dimensions first. Thanks!
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    Numbered or Limited sets don't sound any different to me. Fact is that has nothing to do with my motivation on buying GD stuff. Actually I think I might offer a swap of my GSTL Limited box to someone who really must have it in exchange for a music only set.For the amount of bother to try and turn one of these things for the little profit, just wouldn't be worth my time. Yes I know some sets bring big pricing. Theres the moral thing as has been discussed too. All n All Im after the music. Weekend is HERE!!! 24th Anniversary is the biggie in my trailer park. Taking the wife out for Bar-B-Que and a night at the Shooting Range! Woo-Hoo!!! 9/3/93
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    Spacebro - Thanks for helping make my Blu-ray point. 8/27/72 is indeed still available after 4 years sitting on the shelf despite only producing 12,500 copies, but I find your conclusion that this means 80's is more popular than '72 laughable (respectfully) - it is rather a reflection on Blu-ray, per my previous post. 8/27/72 was a single show plus Blu-ray for $55. That is the only release I have never purchased because I don't have Blu-ray and I didn't want to blow $55 + shipping for 3 CD's I already have (from my DAT days) in pretty darn good quality. (And Mr. Polesitter guy in hi-def NOT a draw) I also doubt they have sold as much of this '89 box as you think - when they plugged the initial number into "inventory" they hadn't yet decided the final production #. Probably input a nice round 10k, not the current 15k you are using in your math. But I could be wrong. We'll find out the next time they update the site. But going numbered/limited edition should boost sales of this box. So ALL the other releases/boxes have sold out or are close to it - most at 15k units or more - while the relatively low 12,500-unit EPIC Veneta show released 4 YEARS AGO on Blu-ray still sits on the shelf... this is why they aren't releasing more Blu-ray.... edit: icecrmkid I just saw your post. I'm not saying Blu-ray is going away forever (though Betamax, Laserdisc, Selectavision, and DIVX did), but the dream of Blu-ray becoming the universal video standard, like CD is for audio, is dead. Again, I think they are waiting for a ubiquitous video format relevant to ALL before releasing more video. Veneta teaches us that Blu-ray is not the answer.
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RFK Stadium 1989 Box

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The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

“RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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Submitted by alvarhanso on Thu, 08/17/2017 - 15:46

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My problem with it was more that Tom Dowd was absolutely correct about the horns. Juicy Carter is a good saxophonist, but the first night, he and the other horn players don't know Liz Reed at all, and is playing well out of key, the second night isn't much better, when it was just Juicy and Thom Doucette on harmonica. There are good moments. I love hearing You Don't Love Me, even if the sax makes it a little jarring. I don't find the repetitive setlist boring, it's more that the best parts had been released, though the box is worth it for the different Whipping Posts. Mountain Jam was a fairly regular song in the rotation for 2 hour+ shows, so I was shocked that they only played it once in the March shows. I guess because it was an official release, the other Fillmore shows didn't circulate. I have a good sized Duane era tape collection, and I hadn't heard the full shows before the box. The 6/27/71 show was disappointing as filler disc, as it was on that Eat a Peach, and is one of the most circulated tapes. There are other Fillmore East and West shows in the vault that would've made for a better filler disc, 9/23/70 as an example, which circulates in video as well. I didn't realize it started selling for higher after Gregg passed. I got it for 66 on pre-order at Amazon, and saw it dip down to 35 bucks on Amazon late last year.
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Submitted by Butch on Fri, 08/18/2017 - 04:53

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I own zero Allman Brothers records. What are the top 3 or 4 Duane era CDs you all would recommend. Do they tend to release entire shows or best of live stuff? I checked out the Skydog box, and it's way too expensive for an intro to the band. Sound quality is important to me. Thanks. Minas, yes that is the house.
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Submitted by Kayak Guy on Fri, 08/18/2017 - 06:16

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The first 4 ABB albums are the Duane ones and all are worth getting, though sound like they were recorded in the mid1960s, even though they came out in 1970. The Dreams box is a nice 4 CD introduction to ABB, but only half has Duane playing on it. Since Gregg died what used to be cheap has gotten pricey and over the years the catalog has been remastered a couple times, so go for the remastered versions of Idlewild South, Fillmore East and Eat a Peach for the best of the Duane era releases.
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Submitted by Thin on Fri, 08/18/2017 - 08:56

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Butch - Early Allmans definitely wasn't recorded well - Doesn't really capture the magic. Proceed to the following as starting point: Live at the Fillmore East - One of the best Live albums EVER recorded (up there with Little Feat's Waiting for Columbus, BB King's Live at the Regal, and Bob Marley's Live at the Roxy. Eat a Peach: This album contains some "Fillmore East" Outtakes as well as a few post Duane tunes like "Ain 't Wastin' Time No More" which are amazing. Sadly, Live at the Fillmore is about the only really great LIVE Duane recording I'm aware of. I've bought a number of other live ABB recordings and been massively disappointed - horrible recordings. This is why we love the Dead: Bear started a tradition/legacy of meticulous live recordings that continued until the late-70's, leaving behind a treasure trove of amazing live recordings. If only the ABB had a Bear....
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Submitted by wadeocu on Fri, 08/18/2017 - 07:54

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This release is from a multitrack recording and sounds great: http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Allman-Brothers-Live-Atlanta-Intnl-Pop-Fest… I don't have the ludlow garage release but I think it may be multitrack too. This archival release from 9-19-71 is absolutely fantastic but it does suffer from sound quality issues; especially the first 4-5 tracks. The sound improves for the meat of the show. 11+ minute blue sky and 20 minute Liz reed and dreams! Get this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Allman-Brothers-Band-S-U-N-Y-at-Stonybrook-…
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Submitted by Ziffle on Fri, 08/18/2017 - 10:16

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There is a blu ray audio release of the ABB Fillmore East, currently available for about $55. It is stunning, the audio is uncanny clear. There are two mixes, LPCM stereo at 24/96 kHz, and a 5.1 mix that is dts-HD (also 24/96). The stereo mix is similar to the original LPs, but much better.The 5.1 mix was intended to recreate the sound as you would hear it from the center orchestra at the Fillmore, and it is fairly successful. Someone posted a comment saying that the differences between the shows is subtle and the full series is not worthwhile. I thoroughly disagree, that is like saying we should stick with Live Dead and not bother with the full run FW 1969. There are a couple of other worthwhile releases of this material, a dts 4.0 of Live at the Fillmore, which is a remaster of the original quad release, and is excellent and interesting (and long out of print), and an SACD of Eat a Peach, which is based on the original quad issue, and is similarly interesting and enjoyable, also out of print but I believe available. The ABB 1971 Fillmore set is a masterpiece, and without doubt the place to start with the ABB. if you have the right equipment for playback, the blu ray is best.
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Submitted by daverock on Fri, 08/18/2017 - 11:08

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There was a recording that came out about 20 years of a Bear recording of The Allmans. Its from the February 1970 run they played at The Fillmore with The Dead. What a box set that would make-all the sets by both bands! I am listening to it now-the opening track, Elizabeth Reed features a great jam-and the sound quality isn't too shabby either. Its not SACD or blu ray standard-but its okay. Way better than Ludlow Garage. Love were also apparently on the bill, although you don't hear much about their sets. It was a different band from the one that made the truly classic Forever Changes, but it would be good if some of their music could be included in this fantasy release too.
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Submitted by wadeocu on Fri, 08/18/2017 - 13:03

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as of right now there are 1978 copies of the Summer 78 box set left
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Submitted by cosmicbadger on Sat, 08/19/2017 - 04:31

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Last year's official cleaned up release of the A & R Studios 1971 show, recorded live with a small audience, is excellent and sounds great. The Sound on Live at SUNY starts badly and improves somewhat, but is worth perservering with for Duane's astonishing joyful solo on Blue Sky (and Berry Oakley's bass too).
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Submitted by deadtony on Sat, 08/19/2017 - 09:24

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The allmans also had a Dick's picks like series that ran for five volumes, not sure why they stopped issuing them, Sound is up and down per release, but definitely worth picking up. There is a show from 73 at nassau coliseum which is really good
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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 08/19/2017 - 11:12

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Seems there's a lot out there. I bought a copy of the A&R Studios 26/8/71 a few years ago. I would say the one I have is basically a bootleg-although you can get it on Amazon and the few remaining record shops that sell music like this. I wonder if this band approved version is much improved from the one I have. Morally I should get it, I suppose!
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Submitted by daverock on Sat, 08/19/2017 - 11:18

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Another band I am about to start listening to, who are often mentioned on this site, is Govt Mule. They are playing London in October, supported by Kenny Wayne Shepherd, which looks like it could be a good night. So I downloaded a copy of an album called With A Little Help From Our Friends, to get a feel for their music. All their albums seem highly rated on Amazon-but this one, being a live double, seemed quite an attractive place to start. And maybe finish..I don't know yet!
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Submitted by deadtony on Sat, 08/19/2017 - 11:41

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You can't go wrong with some mule! LWALHFOF is agreat album to jump off from with the original lineup with Allen Woody. There is also some great players as well on there, Marc Ford from the Black Crowes, Derek Trucks, Chuck Leavell, Jimmy Herring etc. I would also recommend Dose, and Life before Insanity, there second and third albums respectively. After Woody died I stopped following them as much, just wasn't the same
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Submitted by mdboucher on Sat, 08/19/2017 - 13:47

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The SUNY Blue Sky is worth the price of the album and makes up for the sound quality. Just Glorious.I consider the studio release of Blue Sky to be the perfect song. I wouldn't change even one note. I've been working in the shop building some furniture this weekend, wife and kids are out of town. Mostly been playing Flying Burrito Brothers so far, but after checking in with this thread on my lunch break I guess I'm switching to the Allmans. Thanks all! (If anyone is interested in some Allman trades PM me)
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Submitted by chumdead on Sat, 08/19/2017 - 16:33

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Try "Live at the Roseland Ballroom" it was the original Mule at their finest.Enjoy

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Submitted by antonjo on Sat, 08/19/2017 - 22:25

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Hmm....I certainly value my summer '78 box. And I know lots of you, including my buddy Jim, feel it's pure gold. It rocks, no doubt about that. But I wouldn't recommend it out of the gate to a brand new explorer. There's some really exciting music, and some pretty sloppy stuff, too. Listening to Omaha's disc 1 again recently (first set+), I'm kinda baffled Dave's liner notes praise this show in particular as "exhibiting none of the occasional playful sloppiness that could creep into 1978" ~ when I find it to be a quintessential example. A lot of Jerry's vocals are...less than strong. St. Paul exhibits this "playful sloppiness" too but I admit that Jerry's steering Mexicali towards the ditch is a super-fun moment, with Bob calling him out into the mike. It's Arrowhead and the two Red Rocks shows that really sell the box for me. Yes, you can get 7/8 stand-alone, but 7/1 and 7/7 are true gems in their own right. Dave's gush about 7/1's second set run is NOT hyperbole. And 7/7 falls prey only to the attention given 7/8...sublime two-night stand. But given a choice ~ not that we have to choose ~ Get Shown the Light is in another league of mastery, to my vibration, and has seen a lot more play thus far. I do pledge to listen to those middle shows again, though. *quick plug for RT/From Egypt With Love, while we're on '78. That Mojo Working > Other One run smokes. (Bonus disc, of course, allows you to reassemble that whole 2nd set...lovely Estimated. And bask in the beauty of World to Give.)
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Sat, 08/19/2017 - 19:47

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....is probably at the top of my list for most under-utilized song they ever played. Right up there with Clementine, Built To Last, King Solomon's Marbles and Gentlemen Start Your Engines....

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Submitted by antonjo on Sat, 08/19/2017 - 22:07

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That's a nice list ~ most of those are in the 2-5 club. Pretty exclusive. Clementine and King Solomon's Marbles...sigh. Mason's Children is another favorite of that ilk, though its little run still saw a lot more performances than any of those. Kinda like Mountains of the Moon. I actually caught one of the Gentlemen Starts, and I loved it ~ it was really raunchy and they were up for it; Jerry certainly was. That one (oddly, I've never heard the other one) has this dark spacey guitar burst right in the middle that comes out of nowhere. And the classic grind to a halt ending when they hadn't played a song enough ; ) Though a spirited grinding to a halt ; ) I think others have mused, too, If I Had the World to Give would've made a great early 90's breakout.
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Submitted by MinasMorgul on Sun, 08/20/2017 - 08:09

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I would throw in Here Comes Sunshine. Everybody loves it. It's a killer song with a killer jam section. It's puzzling that they threw away such a great song, and odd that the last time they played it was at the first show of the 1974 tour. It seems like there is a story behind it. But then again, they stopped playing a lot of great songs. Its a Man's World is up there with Mason's Children for me. Crazy Fingers is another, but I can see how it may have been a little too mellow.
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Submitted by Kayak Guy on Sun, 08/20/2017 - 08:52

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This song came back with the Vince era band and was a great set opener for many shows from the 1990s. Grateful Dead Live at Boston Garden on 1993-09-30 Set 1 Here Comes Sunshine Spoonful Candyman El Paso Broken Arrow Stagger Lee Easy Answers -> Don't Ease Me In Set 2 Lucy In The Sky With Diamonds Wave To The Wind -> Crazy Fingers -> Estimated Prophet -> He's Gone -> Drums -> Space -> The Other One -> Wharf Rat -> Not Fade Away Encore Brokedown Palace https://archive.org/details/gd1993-09-30.sbd.miller.79116.flac16
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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 08/20/2017 - 09:55

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Considering they were three of the best songs written...by anybody, anywhere, anytime I would say both Box of Rain and Ripple were underplayed. The thing was , when they did play them, they were never as good as the recorded versions. Attics of My Life, and Crazy Fingers the same. Some songs lent themselves to live performance, and some didn't. They didn't play Let Me Sing Your Blues Away live much either. But that was because it was a bit crap.
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Submitted by mdboucher on Sun, 08/20/2017 - 09:49

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7-13-76 from the Orpheum, for anyone who loves that song, or wants to. Really good sound available on it as part of 30 Days of Dead 2015. I've played this performance of this song more than almost any other single live song (Help/Slip/Frank on One from the Vault only one more)
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Submitted by daverock on Sun, 08/20/2017 - 09:53

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Thanks for the tips about Govt Mule releases. I nearly got the 'Live at Roseland' , but plunped for With a Little Help with it being a double. The second and third albums are going two for the price of one on Amazon-and an inexpensive one at that, so that may well end up in my house next week. There is another live set that is very inexpensive-its name escapes me- which includes 3cds and a dvd-although reading between the lines, it looks as though it could be a bit uneven, quality wise. The one I've got, With A little Help From Our Friends is great. I was very impressed with the tight blues funk on the first cd-and that cover of War Pigs takes no prisoners. I haven't listened to the second set in its entirety yet-but it seems as though they stretch out a bit more on this one. A good tough sounding band. Great guitar sound.
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Submitted by bohlint on Sun, 08/20/2017 - 09:58

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The Eleven- I know Jerry had reservations about the song but MAN. St. Stephen- Why did they tuck this tune away? I think it resurfaced a few times in 83 before it was put to rest for good. Just think what a late 80's/early 90's St. Stephen would have done to the crowd. Casey Jones- Such a nice first set closer or encore, would have liked to seen it played more during thier peak later years. Lastly......... Me and My Uncle of course
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Submitted by deadtony on Sun, 08/20/2017 - 10:13

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Wait till you hit Cortez the killer and Afro blue...tasty. That live album you mentioned was I believe live from the deep end. That was coming off a two separate tribute albums when woody passed. They recorded with a different bass player that woody had admired on each track
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Submitted by pghas on Sun, 08/20/2017 - 19:42

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Actually Live at Roseland is a 60 minute set of them opening for Blues Traveler on 12/31/95 ( some other band did some other well known show in the same city that day but in a bigger arena). In all honesty it is an absolute smoker, a must-have. Also I think still available on their website is the Georgia bootleg box series which is a set of 3 early Allen Woody era shows. Personally I also think their new album smokes and caught them at summerstage back in May - they are on fire right now.
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Submitted by daverock on Mon, 08/21/2017 - 03:24

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The thing that put me off the "Live at Roseland" cd by Govt Mule was the fact that it includes quite a long Voodoo Child in its 60 minutes. Its a song I have heard soooo many times-and on the whole I am not that keen on versions of Hendrix songs played by other people. Even Stevie Ray Vaughan. Its great if you are actually at the gig-I saw a blues guitarist called Joanne Shaw Taylor a few years ago, and she tore the roof off the joint with a searing version of Manic Depression. But sitting at home listening-I am not so sure. I will look out for the Georgia bootleg sets. I am glad that you mentioned that they can still cut it too. It occurred to me last night that my album-and all those being recommended are about 20 years old. And on With a Little Help, one of the great things about the sound is the bass playing-by Alan Woody, who, it seems, is sadly no longer with us. Afro Blue, on With A Little Help, is great. They sure cover a lot of ground on this album!
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Submitted by takimoto on Mon, 08/21/2017 - 06:17

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I was at a remote kids camp last week in Maine chaperoning my kid and his church buddies. ... had no internet so I'm just catching up on posts. Gary, hang in their buddy and get well! Thanks to you and all for sharing your stories! I find them very interesting and funny (when they are meant to be funny and not serious). I liked the advice one guy gave .... let your caretaker make the next move. I was at a concert at old Boston garden and a buddie in our group got puked on by someone in balcony above us. We were sitting on floor right below the balcony. Nasty. The car vomit story triggered my recollection of this gen.
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Submitted by takimoto on Mon, 08/21/2017 - 06:28

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Funny I am n Bermuda today for work. Only here for a day but it's a greet island! Enjoy
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Submitted by Gary Farseer on Mon, 08/21/2017 - 10:27

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Thanks for the kind words of support, my friend. The outpouring of support has been humbling indeed. Not only here in public but from several PM's. Again, thanks to all! It was Mhammond that gave that advice and he was the first to respond as well. His advice is what I was considering anyway as it melds with my personal philosophy on that matter any way. One reason I wrote that I run single ladies away. At this time I won't bore you all with my personal philosophies. I wish I had posted this maybe over at the Dap23 board as it is not quite as public as this board is right now. Oh well, live and learn, always.
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Submitted by FloridaBobalooToo on Mon, 08/21/2017 - 11:15

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Here in central Florida we are having an extremely difficult time finding a virgin for the Aztec eclipse ritual.
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Submitted by Erikandjenn on Mon, 08/21/2017 - 18:51

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Remember when Billy came out with airhorns strapped to his chest to reintroduce Casey Jones at RFK? Bananas
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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 08/21/2017 - 19:30

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Another late era show that somehow escaped my attention.. thanks E&J. Hey.. it just dawned on me.. are we talking to Erik, or are we talking to Jenn or could it be either depending on the day or the post?:D Great reviews on this show, and I am shamed to admit I was not there.. I guess I had something going on that couldn't be skipped. To bad.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 08/21/2017 - 19:43

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....the fact that you thought they stopped playing Here Comes Sunshine in '74. You should know better. Definitely a party foul. All good though. But, really?....
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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 08/21/2017 - 20:02

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I thought he was in trouble with Bobaloo for not supplying sacrificial lambs in time for the eclipse. I guess I'm confused, as usual.

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Submitted by antonjo on Mon, 08/21/2017 - 20:04

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...stop playing Here Comes Sunshine in '74. Early '74. (Till they brought it back in the '90s, of course....)

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Submitted by antonjo on Mon, 08/21/2017 - 20:09

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Still kicking myself, too, for blowing that one off. And I was a year too late for Merriweather '84. Sigh. Some songs are just destined to elude.
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Mon, 08/21/2017 - 20:50

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....or not understanding the question. I'm with Jim (confused)....I'm putting on a HCS, just to even my keel....my original post said "under-utilized songs." They utilized HCS quite a bit....
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Submitted by JimInMD on Mon, 08/21/2017 - 21:51

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So much fun.. the tapes do not do it justice.. Nice opener.. Perhaps its just personal hyperbole, but they seem to stretch out that opening until everyone was standing, grooving and sweating like they had done one line too many. Plus.. how many shows post 73 did they open with CJ? But even the good soundboards from this era sound a bit thin compared to how it really sounded. In the early 80's you could just as easily skip the boards and grab an Oade Bros FOB... Maybe that's why DaP 8, 11/30/80 sounds so good, best of both worlds, the best Matrix so far? 83 Merriweather is more a crime.. such a good show, but good tapes just suck. Oh well. By 85 things started to get a bit cleaner, I think that's why 85 Merriweather gets a lot of hype from that series, it just sounds better on tape.. The first night from 83 was a better show and both 84's stand up. I suspect Merriweather was a hard place to record, its an early shed design, somewhat atypical and the sound carries a bit. Sorry for the rant.. good memories. Santa Fe 83 anyone? :D
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Submitted by jaydoublu on Tue, 08/22/2017 - 01:21

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Check out the jam out of Space on 12/8/93.....Wait for Bobby to hit those familiar chords. Also check out 2/27/94 jam into Wharf Rat...for a nice Cosmic Charlie tease.
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Submitted by jaydoublu on Tue, 08/22/2017 - 01:27

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Can we get some help from you? Seems a bunch of us are still waiting on replacement discs from 5/5/77 set 2. Dr. Rhino has been contacted and we've been told, "out of replacement discs". Well at this point, we are 3 months passed the release date, not to mention the March pre-sale date. Some answers would be helpful. PM if you could. Cheers, Jay Doublu
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Submitted by FloridaBobalooToo on Tue, 08/22/2017 - 04:51

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It's back to the 78 box for me today.A while back some one mentioned there are no CD players in new cars anymore. Well I found that to be true with Honda as I was looking at the 2017 CRV. I can't go for that Darryl! I went across the street and bought the 2017 Toyota RAV4 instead. Better ride and cooler options. Plus I got my CD player to play my music. Yeah 1978 the year of graduation (barely) in my case. 40 years ago soon to be! This box is a real joy to listen to. This and GSTL has got me covered with the occasional foray back to '73. Satisfaction! Back to normal solar activity!
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Submitted by yetibike on Tue, 08/22/2017 - 06:54

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I like Toyotas a lawwwt :)
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Submitted by Dennis on Tue, 08/22/2017 - 10:15

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Anyone going? Heading out tomorrow, big bird to Raleigh, NC, north to Lynchburg. If there text me 214 663 4309. Say something like "from the dead forum". A good "Dead" lineup this year. Maybe Brandi Carlise will make it this year :-) D
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