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    The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

    ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

    When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

    “RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

    Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

    Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

    For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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    Take the friendship and quality medical care for now....
  • FloridaBobalooToo
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    One VERY VERY WISE man!
  • mhammond12
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    Don't do anything that could possibly cause regrets. Don't do anything that could ruin what you already have with her. She's in a relationship. Let her know how much you appreciate her but don't cross a line. She's in a relationship. If there's something there the next step should be her's. I always told my kids "A moment of stupidity, a life time of regret." To your continued recovery my friend.
  • Gary Farseer
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    I had been trying to decide whether to post this but seeing y'all post about hippy chicks or girls and the dead I guess I will. I truly do believe in the universal cosmic mind or group mind. As I have been sick and very sick for a big chunk of 2017, I had to have home health. Of course, part of it was insurance based but part of it was private pay. Family and friends use one gentleman as a handyman for various homes, farms, etc. His lady was tasked with being my private nurse as she is retired (right now, could change as demand for nurses is out of control). As she was connected through the family/friends it was a discounted rate, in case you think I live in the King's castle. But I was so sick that my family could not handle all that was going on with me. Well not going get into all the details but she started to visit me when I was staying with family as I was in and out of the hospital 4 different times for a total of 40 days. When I finally got home on March 18th and quite frankly scared of being alone, she showed up the next morning. I had just had final surgery on March 16 and when I woke up in the middle of the night, two of the wounds were not properly sealed so my night shirt with cap (ok not that) but my underwear and sheets had a lot of blood on them. She did not panic, thankfully, and kept me calm and contacted the surgeon. That all worked out. The first few weeks she came every day, 2-3 times a day. She was so kind. She came and checked out wounds, changed dressing, and flushed drains that I had in me. She also prepared 2 meals a day for me. Turns out I worked for her father's law firm as I worked my way through undergraduate school. So I knew her dad. She knew my folks as well. It is a small southern town. One day as she was fixing me scrambled eggs we were talking about our youth and all. She is actually 9 years my senior but a drop dead gorgeous blonde. We were just talking about life and Karma and all, like is my illness the result of something I was being punished for? I told her I used to be wild, but do not believe that Karma played a reason for illness. We continued talking about traveling and stuff. I told her I have traveled a pretty good bit as I was a Grateful Dead fan when I was younger. She responded, oh, I was a Grateful Dead fan when I was younger too. Well ding ding ding. We now had that instant connection. This was still in late March. Her last medical visit was Friday. In that interim we spent so much time together. She saw me at my worst, the weakest physically with open infected wounds and all. We had profoundly deep conversations. Around the end of May I started to show her some of my musical collection to which she was floored. Understandable since most of us on here are kind of in that 1% of deadication. I finally got my first shower in late May. And man, 5 months without a shower makes you really appreciate something so simple and how pleasurable that is. Of course to shower, I had to have her there as I was and still am a fall threat (label of medical community). So as I showered, I would play her various eras of dead music. Last Monday I played the acoustic set from Radio city with the Ripple and all. So here I sit on Monday really conflicted. First of all, she has a man. However, they are not married but do live together. Before I met her my sister had been asking me some questions about life and I told her that the wierd thing is I have had more than a few married females make it clear that they enjoyed my company. But single ladies I seem to run off. Of course, we all know the strength and weaknesses of the female dna (how is that for tact) so I am not going to speak more on that. So I can tell that she seems to want me to press on this issue. There in lies the dilemma. Her fella is a family friend but he is 10 years older than her, a workaholic, kind of running out out of steam but is supper kind. (Btw, her man saw Hendrix at the 1970 Atlanta Pop Festival). So I am all melancholy over what to do. I had written when I first came on this board that there were few if any heads around here. The ones I have met are all in there early 20's so they never saw them. All have been kind but as I am 30+years older do not have a lot to talk about. So to meet the first female head in my area has just floored me. Of course, I am also trying to rationalize my thoughts as it relates to reverse Florence Nightingale syndrome. I really do not know what to do. You all have pointed out the opposite of "tragedy narrowly averted" when it comes to ladies and concerts and all. I am ordering for her Reckoning Expanded for her personal kindness. I am also ordering her the book "The road less traveled" as it is a great book on healing. So I know she will be back to receive those gifts. I also will need some additional surgery later this year so I am sure she will be helping me with that. Just cannot decide to speak honestly about my fondness for her or not. I have been trying so hard to not allow my fondness to grow for her but she is so sweet, patient and loving that it is hard to do. I know she has a fella but like I wrote earlier, I have had several married ladies press me. I know it is because I am kind (and usually have the kind, smile). So I know that usually I speak more to a woman's heart than most of their husband's and her man does. I know it all starts because I actually listen to them and respond accordingly. I know none of you here are this way but a lot of guys take what they have for granted. It is easy for me to connect but I have never stepped over the line. All I can ponder is the discussion with my sister and how it was my sister that got this cute little deadhead to be my nurse. Now I really do not know what to do. I think I am just going to present her the gifts and let her know that she will always have a very soft spot with me for all of the help that she has provided. Sorry for the rambling. Does anyone have any advice?
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    Seriously funny stuff.. completely cracked me up.
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    Omigosh, man, that reminds me of me, though your stories win by some miles. For me it was just one girl I was hopelessly, helplessly enamored of and kept thinking that seeing a great show together might spark something that was, in hindsight, never going to happen. Our first "date" was Jethro Tull ~ fine show until we couldn't find my car for about an hour afterwards. Then came Pittsburg '89, which we drove to together from Baltimore. As recently recounted, I never did hook up with my ticket connection ~ I gave her the one we had in hand, and watched her head in while I eventually had a front-row seat to the nationally televised riot after ticketless heads rushed the gates. Next came JGB that year, when she spotted her most recent ex and spent the entire post-show having a heart-to-heart with him as I waited nearby (after hurrying us along with "I'm tired" when I'd tried gushing with my own friends minutes earlier). Spring '90, third night Landover. Pre-show, she took a nap in my car rather than hang out with me in the lot. As soon as we got inside, she ran into yet another ex-boyfriend and left on the back of his motorcycle after the show. That's okay, at least I saw the Black-Throated breakout from the 9th row ~ where she'd refused to join me, having already told ex she'd be sitting behind the stage...just before my friends offered us the upgrade. There's yet another entry, 3rd night Nassau a week later ~ but you've heard enough. Yes, I was a sap. But we remain dear friends to this day. Spacebro, Appreciate the shout-out for 6/14/91. The finest post-Brent show, and stadium show period, that I saw. Pre-drums was to die for (Help > Slip > Franklin's > Estimated > Dark Star...are you kidding?). Then again, I missed RFK the year before, which by all accounts was the bomb. But backpacking in Europe that summer (and Asia that Fall) was a pretty great excuse....
  • FloridaBobalooToo
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    It never worked well for me. Especially outdoor shows in the Florida heat. At The Who's 1982 tour stop in Orlando, my date dropped from the smoke( Maui wowie high grade) and the heat. She had to be lifted over the front of stage barricade. After the show she wandered out and looked like hell. Poor lass! Another time at Rush in Lakeland another date decided to puke all over the guys ahead of us. Red jungle juice all over this dudes tour shirt. Total calamities. I had to buy the guy another shirt to keep him from going ape shit.Had yet another date at Pink Floyd in Orlando mid 80s try and get back together with her ex she spotted in the crowd! I just couldn't win! Now with my wife of 24 years we have no issues as she is a non partier and likes to stay away from the insanity. Suits me fine. Oh yes The Stones Tattoo You tour 82, and a different girl. She passed out in the heat and had to go to the first aid station for fluids! Only to get in my Trans Am on the way home and fill the passengers floorboard with vomit that was so nasty, the smell refused to leave the car and cost me a nice chunk when I traded it in on a new ride. Like in Seinfeld that smell could not be erased. The salesman actually asked if someone had died in the car! Thanks Babe!!!
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    Sonuvagun you're right. Mule is in Grand Rapids tonight, not Rochester. Obviously I didnt have tix yet, but I was going to bust out of work and head right down to Meadowbrook. None of my usual concert buds wanted to go, and I was wondering / hoping someone from here might be there. Guess I dont need to bother. Have fun, man, tell us about it tomorrow. Mule and Galactic, dayum! I shoulda been more on top of it. Meijer Gardens is a great venue, small and intimate, like a club, but outside. As I recall they're kinda stingy about smoking there, tho. Saw Umphreys there a couple times. Jim -- thx --- I like to use the story of me, Mrs. Deadguy, and my roommates old S10 to help explain to folks who don't understand why I love going to shows so much, why they're such a big part of my pursuit of happiness. Figured most folks here would appreciate it.
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    I hear you Dave. I have been hit or miss on relationship GD love. Mostly miss, but always tolerance, I do expect at least that level of support. It's one of those things you have to discover for yourself, you can't push people into it. My first love was and still is a deadhead.. perhaps I should have stuck it out. Oh well, revisionist history I guess. On a related note.. in my tiny, tiny town (or at least close to it) we are getting the John K Band this weekend playing at a local bar/restaurant/music venue. He's from DC so its only a three hour drive for him. He did some sort of echo tour with one of my neighbors a few years back, so he's no stranger to recreating in the mountains here.. I think it was flat water kayak mountain lake related, the guide is an older hippie but not really a deadhead and had absolutely no idea who John Kadlecik was. It was only after it was over he pieced it all together. Anyway.. sorry for the side-bar.. The local music scene here is mostly bluegrass or shoddy cover bands, getting some better dead related stuff shines a ray of sunshine on the local scene.
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    That's quite impressive. I saw 5 myself. Well-4 and a half. At the middle night in London-Halloween 1990-my girlfriend of the time joined me to see the band. She had always been indifferent to them-but on this night-of all nights- she decided she hated them. Well, it wasn't so much the Dead, as the Deadheads. Sorry guys-hopefully it wasn't any of YOU. We happened to be sitting in a particularly smoky and rowdy section, and after the first set ended I decided enough was enough and we left. Otherwise there might have been carnage-she was very beautiful-but you wouldn't want to mess with her. It was a great set, too-arguably the best of the run. I saw them on my own either night of Halloween-both great shows to my ears-but the 31st was the ONE. I have never heard Govt Mule-although I their name crops up a lot. They are playing in London soon, so maybe I should go. On my own.
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RFK Stadium 1989 Box

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The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

“RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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You are incorrect on the sequence of events. Review the thread, or drop it and let bygones be bygones, as I said. But don't expect me not to respond harassment or insults. Good day sir.
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You know who you are. And thanks! I'm seeing wonderful photos of Jerry, and others, that seem rare to me. Really awesome. Keep it up. Peace. \m/
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"The rumors of my death have been greatly exaggerated" M Twain. or. TP ?
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Tom Petty
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I saw him at the 7/2/86 Akron Rubber Bowl show!! , he backed Dylan, and then did a set before the Dead played... can't believe that was 31 years ago.
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He was a Gainesville Guy and a very cool man who for the most part shunned the rock star ego trip.He also did a lot for the poor people behind the scenes and didn't look for kudos for helping others. A good example.
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Shocked. I saw him several times. My three most vivid memories of Petty are on stage playing, the video for Don't Come Around Here No More, and Judge Reinhold in Fast Times at Ridgemont High soaping up his car to American Girl ( what did he call that car again? Was it the cruising vessel?). His later albums I thought were just as good, although you don't hear as much from them, I think because FM radio has taken a backseat in the past 15 years or so. America's DJs love him. Peace and prayers for Tom Petty!
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I know that the life I am living is no good... just gave me serious chills... RIP, boys...
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Goodness gracious...I see that Bob Dylan's incredible "gospel period" will soon be released as the latest bootleg series. I'm not of the Christian faith, but this is (among) my absolute favorite phases of Dylan. I have some live bootlegs of this period (like Toronto) that are unquestionably great. I pre-ordered the double CD without hesitation, passing on the 'deluxe' 8-Cd 1DVD alternative.
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Pondering whether to preorder the Frank Zappa 3cd Halloween 1977 from that piranha infested river site or wait until after 10/20 and see if the price goes down. "Halloween was Frank Zappa's favorite holiday & by 1977 his Halloween shows were legendary. Recorded live at The Palladium in NYC, Zappa performed 6 shows 28-31 October. 4 shows were filmed & resulted in Zappa's movie 'Baby Snakes.' The Halloween 77 3CD version includes the Halloween night show in its entirety, mixed in 2016 from original Vault masters, plus select tracks from the other 5 shows."
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A few statements 'ol Minas made have proven true: * this RFK minibox did indeed become offically labeled a "limited release * a number has been decided on (15K) * additional stock has been added to the total number available, for a total of 15K. Everything has proceeded as I have foreseen (I do birthday parties and bar mitsvahs as well). Man, that sucks about Tom Petty. I also think of the Don't Come Around Here No More video when his name comes up. One of the most entertaining and original videos of the MTV age. I saw him in 89 and again after Into The Great Wide Open cane out. Will never forget his cover of Should I Stay or Should I Go, the place was bonkers, and then Jammin' Me for the encore, which was one of his great underrated songs, but we'll appreciated by all to close the show that night. Another great underrated tune was All The Wrong Reasons.
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to 1971-1972 Dead. Interesting perspective. They have no clue about the long strange trips before and after. Especially funny is the remark about grateful dead music not being fit for studio recording. LOOOOL. weird scenes inside the gold mine. Save the lectures for your chorus.this rfk kit set is certainly worth getting based on the listening samples. i don't care about pitch unless it's a close ball game. jerry's guitar is singing beautifully here.
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I can't afford to be on this forum any more, every time I turn around someone mentions a great box set. So thank you(?) Ken for bringing up the new Dylan box set, because of you I spent a 140 bucks on some bullshit box and my dog will have to go hungry for another week. No problems he'll survive, Mama may not make it without her meds though. Oh well, this IS the next in the Bootleg series! Really, thanks for the heads-up. Set has been ordered, sorry "pre" ordered. (Odd term, you would think "pre" is before you order, should be "post" ordered now, right?) Oh, one more thing, (knowing the answer to be no), anyone hear anything about the "DIGITAL DOWNLOADS" for the 45s? :-) (I've been told by secret sources that the answer is being looked into by Marye. So I have no doubt in it's inevitable conclusion)
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Gotta Serve Somebody. I opted for the bobdylan.com pre-order which includes an extra 2cd san diego concert, only available there during pre-orders but will add an extra $40 plus so $186 yipes.
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The costume box that will contain the USB with all 6 shows from this run for $100 is a bargain. The Oct 30th and 31st '77 shows themselves are nearly 4 hours long each. The other two nights, Oct 28th and 29th '77 were two show per day runs. I definitely want this.
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"Coincidentally", I just received an email from dead,net with a link to download the digital version of Volume 3 of Grateful Dead 7" Singles Collection. Ain't coincidences grand!. . . Onward.
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I told you Marye would come thru!
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.....telling me that a 5-5-77 CD2 replacement disc is in the mail. Seriously, WTF. How hard is it to replace a defective CD? I’m not the only one who needs a replacement.
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It's really starting to smell like trolls around here...
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Some people are super uncool, making personal attacks in response to honest listening of a band. I never attacked anyone until I was attacked, and frankly can't believe the people that are jumping on board and supporting it both publicly and PM. I had this impression of "Deadheads" that they're peaceful happy go lucky WELCOMING people, and most have been, but there are definitely a few who just don't want to hear that Jerry had an off-note or the keyboard player can't sing, or the girl screams sometimes. You guys are about as uncool as it gets. It doesn't matter whether you're a new comer or long timer, there's just no excuse for attacking someone for having an opinion. I talk about the Who and Stones and other bands with people on message boards who like myself, have been fans for 30 - 40 years. Daltrey sounds great for 70, but is nowhere near the singer he used to be. Same with Mick. We don't attack each other for saying, yeah, he sounded terrible tonight. Mytime, if pitch doesn't matter to you, that's fine - I enjoy shitty singing sometimes too (Brian Johnson). But to mock me for pointing out the guy sounds awful on this particular recording is schoolyard bullying, and I'm not having any of it. It sounds to me like you have a problem with 70s Dead, judging by your comment "It's always good when a Newbie tries to steer you to 1971-1972 Dead. Interesting perspective. They have no clue about the long strange trips before and after". Totally baffling, considering they were in their prime then, which I know because I've listened to all of it, and they don't sound anywhere near as good in 1989 as they did in 1972. Are you going to say the Who sounded as good in '82 as they did in '70? Or that the Stones sound as good now as they did in '78? That's not to say they're not still great bands, only to say they've lost a step or two.
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Feel free to ignore 28 of them if that's your drill. I have nothing whatsoever against 70s dead, btw. For your deadification, this here is a thread about the 1989 RFK box set. You critiqued the long-awaited free listening party samples. Brent is not my favorite period, but this sounds pretty good to my ears, way exceeding what I expected. If you can't stand this, do yourself a favor and ignore anything involving Brent. You will have lots of people that agree with you too. Nobody is forcing you to buy this. I recommend Ladies and Gentlemen the Grateful Dead 4 cd set to you, available for half the price of this one.
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You’ve been initiated.....
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I'm just thankful the band didn't invite Yoko Ono to join them after Donna left.
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...off Aoxomoxoa coming across my pair of Bose right now. Shirdeep great photos! As far as Yoko, well she's still alive, let's get her out onstage with Dead & Co. to shriek over Playin' in the Band. Yeeeeaaayyaaaaayyah, yeeaaahyahh, YEAYAHHHHH!!!! YAAAHHHH!!!
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I would think that the more you listen to a band, the more critical you become. As you become aware of the peaks they can hit,all the nuances within the music and when they are truly on form, then it becomes more apparent when they are performing less well. Certainly listening to the Dead over the last...42 (!) years, I would say I am more aware of their peaks and troughs now-what to me are their peaks and troughs I should say. Like I lot of people on this board,I have heard sooo much music by this band over the years. One of the results of this is maybe that I have become less tolerant of some eras of the band that I no longer like. I recently played a show, featuring a version of Eyes Of The world, that I had to break off from. I thought it was awful-but then the day before I had heard the version from 11/11/73 form the Winterland, which I had thought transcendent. The other version just wasn't as good-to my ears. In 1990, to pick a year at random, I would have been quite happy with the show I can now no longer stand. I always enjoy this board most when differing views are expressed-it would be dull as ditch water if everyone agreed on everything. But its always a low point when people resort to personal insults to try and get their point across.
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No one would argue that The Who were better post Keith Moon. No one would argue that The Stones were better post Exile On Main Street. "Better" being the key word. But that's not the case with the Grateful Dead. The Dead's music is divided into three "eras" 1. Pig 1966-1972 2. Keith and Donna 1972-1979 3. Brent or the 80's 1980-1990 and each era has its advocates and detractors. Many 80's era advocates feel their favorite era is treated with disdain by many, even suggesting that this prejudice against the 80's is at play in the selection of official releases. It's an argument that will never be resolved but also an amazing compliment to a rock and roll band that broke up in 1995. This doesn't explain why some posters here (from all era "camps") get so reflexively rude, defensive, and insulting. I'm at a loss there. And you haven't even met RV3 or Patagonian Fox yet.
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The opinion of how someone feels about Brent's vocals on the "Listening party #1". To say Brent is somehow "off key" here, not an accurate assessment on actual technical merits, but an opinion, then to play the "well I've listened to the Dead more than you, so you don't know what your talking about and are delusional" card, is just ridiculous. If a person is going to insinuate that the several thousand people who have pre-ordered this are "lesser Deadheads than thou", because this person doesn't like Brent's vocals, someone is bound to respond unfavorably to that insinuation.
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I just lost my whole post trying to edit it. Well then, have a pleasant one, and to sum it up, good Scarlet jamming by Jerry on 7/7/89 and Morning Dew from GD Movie Soundtrack.
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So, Hank Hill was a Deadhead?
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I'm looking at different CDs to buy from various years. Looking for the best shows, but reviews are all pretty much the same. There is a huge price discrepancy, so what is the difference between the less expensive shows? Are the higher priced ones that much better in quality? I realize the higher priced ones are sold out, but still, there are plenty of other sold out CDs that aren't priced so high. Are they that much better or not at all better? Specifics: Winterland 1973 Complete Recordings / $150 for three shoes in November Vs. Dave's Picks Volume 5 / 1 show $425 (shows are a week apart) To Terrapin Hartford 77 / $20 1 Show May 1977 Vs. Daves Picks Vol. 1 / $425 1 Show May 1977 (3 days apart) Dead Set 1980 / $25 for 1 show Oct '80 Vs. Daves Picks Vol. 8 $285 / 1 Show November '80 (1 month apart)
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This is probably neither the time nor the place...but I would say The Stones had quite a few discreet eras in their career, too, with fairly clear beginnings and endings. There was the initial rhythm and blues years, followed by the pop/psychedelic era in the mid 60s, the great Beggars Banquet up to Goats Head Soup series of albums, the Ronnie Wood years in the 1970s the 1980s and then the 1990s up to the present day characterised by the mega shows. Butch indicated 1978 was a good year-and although it yielded the Some Girls album and Miss You single, it was a time I didn't much care for. They always seemed to be trying to play too fast, to me, in order to keep abreast of the times. There's a video of a live show from 1978, where Mick Jagger is wearing a tee shirt with a swastika on it- a terrible gaff, presumably worn in an attempt to out do punk. The Dead had the best response to punk-they ignored it!
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Hey Butch, they are all great releases-the difference in price is due to the exclusivity of the release. Daves picks are limited releases so they carry a hefty price on the re-sale market. Winterland 73 is the rare release that has sold out but can still be found for reasonable prices. It's amazing pick and if you feel comfortable with the price, I promise you won't regret it. Dead set is a nice compilation album but if you're looking for something from the early 80s, you can find dicks picks 13 (5/6/81) for very reasonable prices on eBay. Same with dicks picks 5 (dec 79) and dicks picks 6 (oct 83). Hope that helps-
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Real Gone Music is starting to reissue Road Trips, starting with the last release and working back to the first. https://shop.realgonemusic.com/products/grateful-dead-road-trips-vol-4-… $150 for Winterland ‘73 is a good price if unopened. It was $99 or more when released. Dead Set is a compilation and was available for decades as a single CD. You can probably find it in a brick and mortar CD store if such a thing exists. It now comes as 2 CD’s in the Beyond Description Box. To Terrapin was not limited and is currently out of print, but that doesn’t mean that more wont be made in the future.
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warlocks 10 o8 1989 hampton Foolish Heart Walkin' Blues Candyman Me and My Uncle Big River Stagger Lee Queen Jane Approximately Bird Song Promised Land Help on the Way Slipknot! Franklin's Tower Victim or the Crime Eyes of the World drums I Need a Miracle The Wheel Gimme Some Lovin' Morning Dew We Bid You Goodnight https://archive.org/details/gd89-10-08.sbd.unknown.8365.sbeok.shnf
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Thanks 80sfan, keithfan, and icecrmcnkd. I went with Dead Set, To Terrapin, which I guess they got more of, because it's here on this website, and the Winterland 73 new off of eBay. That's great news about the Road Trips series, because they're priced pretty steeply on eBay. Keithfan was nice enough to PM and send a great sound board of Daves Picks 8 (you are right, great Feel Like a Stranger opening, and I'm to say, Brent is in tune)
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Dorm room SDSU 1973. Meeting my new friends in Toltec Male Housing Residence. In my new neighbor Steve Lightfoot's room thumbing through his LP collection I come across an LP entitled Bob Wills And His Texas Playboys Greatest Hits. I pull it out and ask Steve if this is a joke LP? He replies "No. I stole that from my Dad's record collection. I couldn't live without it." I said "WTF? The cover looks like a Zappa joke!" He said put it on and listen. "When you go out with that girl you got to wear asbestos pants." Bob Wills And His Texas Playboys. "Ahh Leon!"
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY MR. JOHN ALEC ENTWISTLE ....FOR YOU WHO FANS WOULD HAVE BEEN 73 AND MR JOHN LENNON WHO WOULD HAVE BEEN 77..... A WONDERFUL BASS PLAYER AND AN INCREDIBLE SONG WRITER.... NOW BACK TO YOUR REGULAR SCHEDULE......BRING IT ON DAVE..WHAT IS YOUR NEXT PICK??
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Feel Like a StrangerBuilt to Last Little Red Rooster Ramble on Rose We Can Run But We Can't Hide Jack-a-Roe Stuck Inside of Mobile Row Jimmy Music Never Stopped Playin' in the Band Uncle John's Band Playin' Reprise Dark Star drums Death Don't Have No Mercy Dear Mr. Fantasy Hey Jude Reprise Throwin' Stones Good Lovin' Attics of My Life https://archive.org/details/gd89-10-09.sbd.serafin.7721.sbeok.shnf
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Ok, I could probably live without Bob Wills, but would you want to? :-) I never heard of the guy until I moved to Texas, but now have a decent chunk of him. They were good (if you like texas/cowboy swing). This is one of the things I like most about this forum and group of people, is the wide array of music listened to. Yeah you can go anywhere and hear of the big names, stones, who, and others. But Bob maybe not much. Anyone for Al Jolson? I'm Alabamy bound They'll be no heebie-jeebies hanging 'round Just gave the meanest ticket man on earth, all I'm worth, Just to put my tootsies in an upper berth They don't write them like that anyone.
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