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    The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

    ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

    When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

    “RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

    Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

    Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

    For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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    Dennis - two "n"s - got it. If your in the military I apologize for giving you a french name.... "French military pride" are not 3 words that go together. Daverock - "Beatles are 'pop' not 'rock'"... Wow... OK.... I disagree with that statement on the face of it, but I know what you mean. Deadheads especially like LIVE music - understandable that a studio band may not be at the top of your list. The Beatles were so studio-only and wrapped in their own little world because they weren't touching the public anymore - they got isolated and started sending all these elegant, elaborate postcards from Mars (aka Abbey Road). Incredibly inventive and influential, but not HERE, no "stamp on the back of my hand, that concert last night was amazing!" feeling the next morning. Remember you'd like a band, then see them live and it was like 10X as good because it's loud and you're dancing and sweating and screaming F--- YEAH!" I would sometimes forget how powerful the Dead's music was between tours - the live adrenaline doesn't come through FULLY on ANY recording - and suddenly I'd be in front of a 10,000 watt sound system at MSG again, gobsmacked. By contrast, the only way to listen the Beatles was in your living room spinning vinyl, trying to listen over your neighbors lawnmower, saying "well that's cool". Kinda like having sex vs watching porn - you couldn't participate in Beatles music, you could only OBSERVE it, from a distance. Hendrix, Stones, Cream etc were much more real, accessible, relatable - earth-bound - gritty LIVE music - IN YOUR FACE - you could feel the grease. The recordings had a raw live feel that was more in touch with going to see a live band, and as we know seeing a band live was the real test. Beatles were isolationists, but music was becoming more participatory, and focused on big venues/festivals/live sound. Love motown, but not my sweet spot. Respect, and I appreciate the influence on EVERYBODY (as I appreciate classical and show tunes), but not in my pantheon. Finally Jim, your list of legendary American Bands is a friggin' embarrassment. There are SO many influential bands in the US that left their imprint - can't believe you forgot some of them. Let me complete your list: Grateful Dead Jerry Garcia Band The Warlocks Kingfish Garcia/Grisman David and the Dorks Ratdog Phil and Friends Dead and Co JRAD Oh, and OF COURSE let's not forget the VERY important lessons (mostly cautionary, too many to list) taught to all future bands by Bobby and the Midnites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWscxdleZzI
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    You have forgotten Hawkwind, surely the masters of this and any other universe. If you don't know who they are, there is a great video of them on YouTube doing their sole hit single from 1972, Silver Machine. It gives a hint of how exciting they were live around that time. Space Ritual Live, from 1973 is one of the best live albums ever recorded.
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    They were a pop group. Its meaningless to compare them to either the rock n' roll of the 1950s, or the rock music of the 1970s, as it was completely different. As I see it, the cutting edge music of the mid 1960s was pop, and The Beatles were so far ahead of everyone else in this field that no one else comes close. Certainly, their albums and singles up to and including Sergeant Pepper are untouchable. As pop music. But in 1966 a new music was started in England, initially by Cream and then followed up by Jimi Hendrix, when he arrived in London a few months later. Hendrix expanded on what Cream had started, added his own soul and country blues influences, added the power of The Who, the guitar pyrotechnics of the Yardbirds, the lyricism of Dylan-rolled it all up into a ball, and kicked it out of the park. Rock music, for better or worse, was born. From this point on there was pop, and there was rock. Pop became denigrated as bubblegum, for pre-teens, or, even worse, girls. Rock music was full of sturm und drang-exploding guitar solos, thundering drums and screamed vocals blasted out at deafening volume to hordes of male teenage malcontents like me. It was great!
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    "I couldn't for the life of me produce a list of American rock bands to rival this one." I stayed up all night working on a complete list of American bands that might rival the thorough list above. It took some time, I had to go back through months of listening.. but I did find I listen to music from American bands more than bands across the pond. Here goes, in no particular order: Grateful Dead :D I happen to be channel surfing last night and stumbled upon a pretty good documentary, David Gilmour: Wider Horizons. Worth a watch for sure. And after that, for good measure, they played David Gilmour, Live at the Royal Albert Hall. My particular favorite Gilmour DVD. If you haven't seen or listened to it, and you like Pink Floyd.. get your hands out of your pockets and walk on over there and introduce yourself.. it's stunning.
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    (in no particular order) John Mayall the Yardbirds Deep Purple Black Sabbath Pink Floyd Judas Priest Peter Green Iron Maiden The Beatles The Rolling Stones Robin Trower The Who Dire Straits David Bowie Electric Light Orchestra Jethro Tull Traffic The Kinks Motorhead Steve Marriott Peter Frampton Oasis The Animals The Police Queen Cream Foghat The Sex Pistols Sisters of Mercy The Stone Roses Blur The Cult 10cc Led Zeppelin Some artists obviously due (Jeff Beck, Clapton, Lennon etc.) are not listed individually as they are part of their bands (Cream, the Yardbirds, and others). While blessed to live in the US, I prefer Scotch Whisky to bourbon, and I couldn't for the life of me produce a list of American rock bands to rival this one. Ireland has produced it's share: Thin Lizzy Gary Moore U2 Rory Gallagher Van Morrison Scotland: AC/DC Nazareth \m/
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    Dennis is pronounced den-nis My British rankings: Pink Floyd #1!!!!! Who, Led Zep, Ziggy Stardust Stones Beatles - respect them, but they’re not that great. Decent music that was the right stuff at the right time.
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    I'm not saying I don't like the Beatles, how can you not like them? I grew up with them all around me. Movies, music and cartoons! Car-fuckin-toons!!! I was just saying I never knew what it was that they had? Maybe it was JUST the right time for the youth to have their say? (or have their money extracted) On the flip-ish side you have all the clean cut "beach" movies with the "California surf" sound. (never much on the Beach Boys either, know all the songs, sang them all as a kid, but on look back?) Maybe I feel/felt the earlier late fifties rock n roll was a little harder and hotter. Even simple songs like "Peggy Sue" seem to have more "bite?", then most early beatles. "The Wanderer" also sounded a little darker. Certainly tons of syrup driven pop from that period also. Some things are hard to pigeon hole, there is so much happening in music all the time from so many different angles. In any event I would not want to piss on the legend of the beatles, I just always wonder what they brought to the musical table. Greatest songwriters of the 20th century, boy there a large opinion question. :-) Hard to argue that Dylan wasn't one of them,,,, "the voice of a generation", right? But don't forget Holland–Dozier–Holland and all the Motown hits they brought to life. I was always argue Motown is the cocaine of music, NOBODY doesn't like MOTOWN!!! (How many white people weddings have you been to where they played Motown tunes? Hell the last KKK dance I attended was mostly Motown!) For my money the lyrics of Hunter are top of the list. His lyrics are timeless. Of course lets not forget the output of Pink Floyd. I always assume there is someone who writes all the pop crap of today for the Beyoncé's, the pinks, any of the Disney backed artist of the world. I don't listen to most, but I'm sure there is a segment who think this is the greatest (especially the Queen B) In the end the most important thing to remember is, Dennis has two "n"'s. Enjoy
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    Denis - I hear ya. If they're not your bag, I'm not gonna change your mind. But I don't see whether Paul/Beatles necessarily intended to do the brilliant things he/they did matters. If "Yesterday" was just raw inspiration popping into his head fully formed, that's even more impressive that grinding out for 10 hours at a piano. He did it with most songs he wrote (until the 80's), so you know it's definitely not not luck - he knew what he was doing, even if some of it was just instinct. If the Beatles don't impress you I'm curious who you might nominate as the greatest songwriters/composers of the 20th century? Dylan certainly could not the bill, but he was kinda one-dimensional. Dude with a guitar and maybe 5 chords and everyone covered his songs, and he brought depth and gravitas to music, especially lyrics. But the Beatles literally changed the world.
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    Downloaded the high-res Flac files. Roughly 9gb, in about 5 minutes. I guess they've fixed their bandwidth issues (or something like that. Internet is still a bit of a mystery). Sounds amazing! Now, I don't know if my ears can actually hear the high resolution or if I just think I can. My ears have taken a lot of abuse over the years. That being said, these are excellent shows. Glad to see more 80s being released.
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    Unkle, sorry you got stiffed at this show.. I posted a link to a short discussion on this from one of the Steve Hoffman threads.._____________________________________________ "In 1977 I saw Led Zeppelin in Tampa Florida. They only played 3 songs then the show was cancelled due to bad weather and all hell broke loose,if you listen on YouTube The Song Remains The Same is really a killer version,give it a listen. Glad I saw them in April in Atlanta only two times I ever saw them. " ______________________________________________ Did it snow on Tampa that day or something? Edit: I've been thinking about this a bit. In the 70's.. the average band toured to support their album sales. But this was Led Zeppelin. Just suppose the management of LZ saw the weather for what it was and decided to go on knowing things could progress to the point where they needed to pull out early. Better to cancel before riots occur and not play at all. But I bet they got paid anyway.
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RFK Stadium 1989 Box

LESS THAN 5000 LEFT

The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

“RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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Funny you mentioned that 1978 box set because a buddy and me just bought up that one and May 1977 Get Shown The Light. I agree the sound is clear as a bell on the 1978 shows, but what I found odd was that the mix feels different than the 1977 shows. I can't explain it well I just tried articulating it for 10 minutes, and kept erasing what I wrote. It's like the vocals frequently don't blend in smoothly with the music, they lay on top of it somehow. Weird right? I don't get this out of the '77 set or the Dave's Picks 23 show from January of '78. Anyone else get this out of that box?
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Different year, different sound.Also, 7/1,7,8 were outdoor shows.
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As far as the mix.. 77 had more reverb on the vocals, which could give them a smoother texture that I guess blends better. I think the 78 mix is just a touch hotter but the vocals don't have as much reverb. The vocals themselves were more forceful, sometimes playful in 78 and the harmonies perhaps a little smoother in 77. Like the ICK said.. they did change from year to year, really tour to tour. Instrumentation changes, new songs and influences they picked up on their time off, smaller vs. larger venues, etc. It all comes into play as does their age and effects of lifestyle choices. I never understood the favorite year, favorite tour or favorite show concept.. it was the journey they were after. The differences between shows/tours/years is what kept it interesting for them as well as us. My comment was simply about how quietly they are marketing these two boxes. I was picking up on Kayak Guys question why they have not told us what's in the box.. packaging, swag, layout, artwork for this new box. It would be nice to have a better idea what it is going to look like, I remember the sketches of an early version of the Europe 72 steamer trunk for example.. what we got was slightly different, but it was still interesting to see what they were originally planning. RFK and July 78 seem have gotten stealth roll-outs for some reason.
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USPS International to Europe. Helpful? Maybe not.
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First off I want to say to all the Veterans out there, thank you for your service it is truly appreciated and I am grateful. Also wondering and hoping that they use UPS for shipping as there is no postal delivery this Friday due to the holiday. No shipping notice yet but fingers crossed that we get one today.
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Just got my shipping confirmation and the tracking # is UPS (I'm in continental USA)
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Glad to see some are starting to get their shipping notices. This is a brilliant cap to a nice year of big releases. I have a question... The other day, "30 Day's Of Dead" featured the "Feel Like a Stranger" from 6/23/90 Eugene. Did they have video screens at the two show run at Eugene 6/23 & 24/90? The "30 DoD" raises my hopes that these are under consideration for release. The Spring '90 magic seemed to carry over to the West Coast '90 May and June runs, and all are high on my wishlists, especially Eugene.
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...via UPS here as well. Should be just in time for some heavy weekend listening. After all the yakking about eras, the constant clamoring for the Alpine run, etc., I'm ready to just get down to this box. And I'm going to give this one several spins in the car, where I do my best listening, before passing any final judgement on Brent and late-era Dead. We'll let the music do the talking and see if it lives up (or down) to the hype.
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Gonna be a happy Friday. Vguy any truth to the rumour jim is meeting you at Logan airport next Friday?
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I got the email from Rhino today, but UPS hasn't accepted it as in the system or picked up as of yet. So it's more like the shipping label was printed and it's sitting on a loading dock waiting to be picked up by UPS. Dave's 24 on the other hand was the opposite with UPS receiving it and they let me know days before it was on the way, long before Rhino did. This is such a low key roll out the "free graphic" on the order form is the same one as the Dave's subscription. What would be really cool is if they gave you a copy of the artwork of the item you bought, not the same "Skull & Roses" graphic they have used since 1967 and give away with all orders. I think the lack of info is to lower expectations so we'll be psyched at whatever comes in the mail. Wow me Rhino. UPDATE from UPS you have a package coming. Scheduled Delivery Date: Friday, 11/10/2017 Estimated Delivery Time: 12:30 PM - 04:30 PM
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Curious, Dennis or Vguy, did you get the special limited edition from Dylan.com? Couldn't justify the extra 40 for the 79 show, but...would love to hear from someone who could.
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....no. I went with the regular release. I'm not broke, but I ain't rich either....
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You can get rich at the casino....What are you waiting for? Jim is already there waiting for you with a can of ether.
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....I'm not broke because I DON'T gamble. This town wasn't built on winners, doncha know....
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....watching a muted Kings/Ducks powerplay with Dylan belting out a Solid Rock. Synchronicity....
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....cause I'm talking hockey. So, the Kings/Ducks game goes into overtime. 3 on 3. Fantastic. The Dylan disc ends. I forgot disc 2 of GarciaLive Vol 8 is still in the carousel. It cues up. Bright Side Of The Road. Nice. Meanwhile, 3 on 3 hockey is still going on. The Kings flip the puck back into their own zone. One King chasing. Jerry sings. "Little darling come with me." At that time, another King comes in to help out his backchecking teammate. "Won't you help me share my load." They get together and bust out towards the Ducks zone. "From the dark side of the street, to the Bright Side Of The Road." They score at that last word. It's little things like that, that lift be up, and make me smile. Funny that though, cause I hate both those teams....Go Knights Go!! #Vegasstrong
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I bought the "deluxe" set. Didn't realize there was a "limited deluxe" set that had 2 extra cd's of a 79 show, I would have sprang for it. Anyone out there get the two extra disc. I thought some of the "live" stuff had 79 stuff in it. Now I have to find the two extra disc!!!
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why? because these cd's sell themselves, right? who needs employees when all they have to do is list it for sale, put a limited edition stamp on it, have the cd's made in Mexico and sit back and reap the profits. If they get any greedier, these discs won't be worth the cheap mexican plastic they are printed on. Here's a question for any and all, how long does a mexican disc last? How many people in Amerika were put out of work by this move? I request they go back to the old supplier and drop the mexican discs, they are so thin and cheap, it's a wonder they work at all.
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Just checked shipping email and UPS now has added the actual tracking info - late Friday delivery. The PK sounds like a good musical enhancement for the RFK '89 debut. Thanks whoever gave the heads up on Zappa Halloween '77 release - got the LTD USB stick with all six shows. Probably overkill with the very similar set lists, but amazing musicianship listening to the first couple of shows with a young Adrian Belew and Terry Bozio ripping it up...
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So I guess you don't buy anything made in China, right?
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Anger is boring. Multi-track releases are exciting. Mine arrives Friday as well. The tracks in the "listening party" above sound amazing! "Weight 1.1lbs" - Hmmm - my DaP24 weighed 1.0lbs when shipped. I doubt the packaging will be large. I'm guessing a pair of Dave's Pick's-type triple-folds with a sleeve to contain the pair.
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Thanks for reminding me as if I needed it how truly ugly bigotry is
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Is this the lamest roll-out for a Dead release ever? If there has been a worse one please let me know. I can't think of one. I can't wait to hear this one. Hoping for a shipping notice but who knows at this point.
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No shipping notice here yet. Probably won't arrive by the release date, unless I get a notice by days end. Usually, it's Dave's Picks releases that arrive later, except the most recent one arrived early for a change. Usually the box sets arrive earlier.
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I would have thought there me a mailing notice by now. Maybe that means it's on the way.
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Can that horrific post just be deleted? This is most definitely not the place for that kind of trash. Received my shipping notice on Monday and to my complete shock the tracking number actually works! Apparently I'll have it in my hands on Friday. I for one am very excited to get something out of the usual 70s comfort zone. Variety, spice of life and all that.
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I just got diagnosed with diverticulitis, going in for a cavity Friday, have to try and get my thesis corrections and revisions done by Monday, and have a sackfull of pretty bad American Lit essays to grade. On the flip side I've got Dave's subscription, 30 Days, and a shipping notice for RFK. I win!
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If TPTB already checked out, let's get it done!!! Anyone out there go to these shows and have a great story to share? A little birdie told me Erik has a story! Was looking at the archive and someone mentioned that there was a Dark Star tease in the first set on 7/13. Someone else commented that when LL Rain ended the Rain began. I missed this tour - was in France visiting my Brother. I did get to go to RFK the following year. That show was my very first Dark Star. Hot sunny day hanging in the lot, but the moment we walked into the stadium, it was like entering a different world - the skies opened up and it just poured out, seems like for the whole show until it when we walked out. I had all the things that could get wrecked by rain in a nice dry baggie... Anyone with a later edition Taping Compendium have a good write up? I did a quick google search, but no articles from local papers showed up. Search hits were more about the release than the actual shows...
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I don't see what is so horrific about Unkle's post. Must be these fragile ego's I keep hearing about. Unkle does not like the fact that these have been outsourced to Mexico. Neither do I. I would pay more for my GD gear if I knew they were made in the good old USA. But not you racists, no, you want your Dead as cheap as they can possibly make it. USA kids are too busy getting their vaginas pierced, drinking lattes, and screaming "capitalism is rape"; Why can't we just have 8 year old Mexican kids make stuff for us? Who will pick our organic free range table grapes? Who will dust our canyon bungalow while we catch sick rights at 2' Malibu? Pathetic racist "liberals".
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Hang in there and keep up the positivity! - the negative waves this thread keeps hitting reminds me of a quote from Oddball in Kelly's Heroes: Have a little faith Baby, have a little faith!
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Just recieved the shipping notice email, though so far just the label ready, so no estimated time of delivery so far. This is going to be an awesome release. Somebody should remind those two people who are bashing these releases for not being made in the USA, that the computer they are using to bash these for "not being made in the USA", aren't made in the USA either. The componants, the chips, the wiring, the plastic, the screen....not made in the USA. Their smart phones also aren't made in the USA. The reason that these things aren't being made in the USA is because of capitalism and globalization....which go hand in hand. Just like everybody else, they are willing consumers. Very few everday household items are made in the USA anymore. Outsourcing those jobs was/is a product of capitalism....but don't tell them.
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"Oh man.. don't hit with those negative waves so early in the morning..." I love early Donald Sutherland. Thanks for that moment of brevity, Bob.. You're a good soul. I read through all these posts and I don't know.. I don't think we are suddenly enemies.. Perhaps what bonds is stronger than what divides? In this case the overreaction exceeds the initial action. Perhaps I am wrong, but that doesn't really matter anyway. You can't stop people from being themselves and voicing their opinions here, so long as it's respectful. Even if a point of view is something we currently don't agree with. Avoid letting things get ugly or personal.. What we see are words on a screen and sometimes what we mean to say gets lost and meanings slant and askew as they travel. I'm as guilty as anyone of that.. meaning one thing but not quite using the perfect combination of words and blammo. but I never mean any harm. I doubt if anyone meant any harm today in what they wrote. Be kind.
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Actually not capitalism, by making everything outside the USA and then buying that stuff we are doing a great service to our fellow man by bringing jobs and prosperity to the less fortunate. Man, we’re good people.....
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Globalization is a by-product of capitalism, regardless of opinion whether it's good or bad. I haven't taken sides here on this issue, one way or the other. If people aren't buying Grateful Dead releases because they are manufactured outside of the USA, that's their preogative. They probably download everything for free anyways. I'm here for the music and do my best to support the cause, so we continue to get more of it, and have been since the very first Dicks Picks release in 1993, within my budget. I'm a consumer, and not complaining about where these are made, or even taking a political side. I'm correcting someones "alternative fact".
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My 5-5-77 CD2 was defective and it took 5 months to get a replacement. A week later I got my DaP 24 and CD3 was defective.Truth is these discs are crap. They are thin flimsy plastic with half-ass manufacturing and quality control. All so that Rhino/Warner can maximize profit while reducing costs. Maybe they should focus on producing a quality product and increase production numbers. In the long run they will make more money. Having to mail out replacements cuts down on profits.
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D&C on Colbert next Thu & Fri Not sure how their going to pull that off since I'll be seeing them play at the Boston Garden around the time they tape on Friday unless it's a repeat or pre-recording... I think MSG is earlier in the week, so maybe they'll tape then???
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Trying to couch stream these. Didn't have a good experience with the presale. No harm in that.
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Send one my way and guy dressed as The Joker from RFK July 1989 bring your finest selection of green to columbus dead and company show
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Thanks Bob! Dead and family has been there in so many ways for so many experiences, good and bad. And for that I'm blessed and eternally grateful.
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I could write an essay but it would have to start at JFK a few days earlier. I skipped Giant's Stadium to see Dylan in Harrisburg (that was with the SNL band & Steve Earl opened).Man, those were the days. I graduated from high school the month prior and was ready to see the world. I CAN NOT WAIT TO HEAR THEESE DISKS! They are going to sound like summer. ------ Jenn & I have Dead & Co tickets for 11/17 :)
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The tracking on my shipping notification just finally went up. Looks like Friday is the day. This is going to be an awesome release. I've recieved my share of bad discs, mainly with the Road Trips series. I had two discs in the GSTL box that had to be replaced, though it was because they came loose during shipping and were scratched up pretty bad. Like the other May '77 box, those slip sleeves are bad on the discs, even though visually they look cool. I'm hoping these arrive in jewel cases, like Spring '90 and Dave's Picks.
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Email received, by Friday end of day. I found a youtube video of the unveiling. The box looks great. Bet the show is a face melting experience! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcR9k8o4I0w&t=31s Jim - My buddy watched most of the last tour via stream, gave 2 thumbs and a half a middle finger up. To the bickering out there, remember the words of Elwood P Dowd ---- Years ago my mother used to say to me, she'd say, "In this world, Elwood, you must be" - she always called me Elwood - "In this world, Elwood, you must be oh so smart or oh so pleasant." Well, for years I was smart. I recommend pleasant. You may quote me.
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Thank you for proving my point. You don't even recognize bigotry when you trip over it. Ad gor sensitive egos ha look in the mirror snowflake. As for negative vibes I will call out the true negative vibes of bigotry every day of the week. Btw where was you car made...thought so. Them dirty Mexicans them taking all our jobs. Maybe you should take a couple of economics classes then do the unthinkable work with a few people who don't look like you
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Tix still available for Samson Sunday, but friday is sold out. I'll be at both, you'll see me I have a beard and will be wearing a tiedye, you won't be able to miss me. JUST IN... Last Chance: Dead & Company Friday, November 17 & Sunday, November 19 at 7:00PM Witness Dead & Company's fall tour live when they stop at TD Garden to perform two shows next week! The celebrated group features original Grateful Dead members, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, and Bob Weir, alongside singer/guitarist John Mayer, Allman Brothers' bassist Oteil Burbridge and Fare Thee Well and RatDog keyboardist Jeff Chimenti. Limited inventory remains, secure your Indiividual Suite Seat and sit in a suite, which includes a private restroom, lounge area, and more! Individual Suite Seat: $150 Promo Code: DEAD
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what if the discs had been made in the soviet union? or red china? NO, I don't buy Chinese crap, I do without, but I see that you just want to save some bucks even tho you really aren't, just buy the same thing two or three times cause the life expectancy of Chinese/Mexican/insert country of your choice, goods is about one third the life span of a good quality USA made product. You are fooled into thinking that you are saving dollars, when in fact, you are spending way more. It doesn't matter to some, just let me have it, all in the name of capitalism? Some here just don't know crap when they see it, listen, if it looks like a turd, it smells like a turd and for some of you, taste like a turd, it's a turd, doesn't matter who dropped it. And for all, I'm not talking about the music on these discs, just the discs themselves. What's even more hilarious is that no one, not one of you offended posters (or should I say posers) answered my question, how long does a cheap, thin, pos disc last? No answer, just name calling, typical mindless follow the crowd right off the cliff. I'm a bigot? only the uninformed would say that, I call them like I see them and you can take your politically correct crap and stuff it, a pos is a pos. snafu, we have spoke before, and I must say, you have not changed, once a follower, always a follower. If you are a Mexican, sorry, but improve your standards and perhaps you wouldn't be the laughing stock of the hemisphere. Spacebrother, I usually agree with you about a lot of things, but if you really care and look around, you can find most things that you really need made in the USA, of course not the things that you want, but need, the rest of the world has figured out that the ordinary citizen doesn't care where something is made, as long as they can get it for cheap. Kinda funny considering these are not reduced in price due to cheap discs, just more profit for Rhino. That's what makes capitalism, spend less to make more. Cut costs, reduce labor, lie, if needed. I recommend some here drink the good kind of cool-aid. I want to thank all who replied to my early morning post with grace and dignity, it was meant to be an opinion, my opinion. If you don't like it, fine, but in my Amerika, I'm allowed to say what I believe, not what I've been told to believe.
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Kayak - See you Friday night at TD Garden! I'm the middle aged guy in jeans and a glazed smile saying "Hey". 24hours until I get my 6 disc x 24 track RFK package via UPS and tear open the plastic wrap. That's 144 total tracks! Some over 70 minutes long!!!!!!! Let me calculate the actual number of bytes.... gimme a minute.....
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I burn it once to my computer.....I can make as many disks as I want. Easy. If you don't like it. don't buy it. I'm here to talk about music. Can't wait to hear this.
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