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    The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

    ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

    When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

    “RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

    Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

    Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

    For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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    My first GD exposure was 8 track. Ha.. that's one medium I wont miss. I guess I had a bad machine, it kept eating all my tapes. It was really a bad technology... Cassettes were much more reliable.. and contrary to popular belief, I do not see them making a robust comeback. My prized Nak died about ten years back.. the belts had all dry rotted and it started to play reeeeaaaaalllllyyyyyy sssslllllloooooowwwwwww. There is no advantage to cassettes over CD's as far as I can tell, and a lot of drawbacks. I do see the Vinyl appeal, but 8 tracks and cassettes, I just don't see this becoming a wave.
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    The limited announcement yesterday did what it was meant to do in piquing my interest, but I'm still on the fence. These could probably be broken down to 4-5 discs, and there probably won't be any filler, and once again I'll be miffed at short discs, though this time for 65 bucks for 2 shows. I think I'd find 5/8-9/77 as a 2 show box for 65 bucks to be pricey, so it has nothing to do with Brent or '80s hate. I actually like Summer '89-Summer '90 a lot, they were playing at the peak of that incarnation, as evidenced by how much of it's been released. (But feel free to throw this post back at me if they offer a 2 show box of RFK '73 for the same price and I buy it the minute it's announced, because that would likely be my reaction to that RFK box.) The book is probably nice, and I love the books in the boxes. The books are what I really miss about Spring '90 and Europe '72 (though I really love the idea of the steamer trunk). If it's around next year and I got the extra cash, I'll get it. If I miss out, I'll survive, and enjoy the subscription for Dave's 2018 and next year's big box.
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    Since 15K is the number
    5K will be added to the available quantity at some point. It's gone down exactly as I posted it would, although I'm surprised they're going with 15K. They still started with 10K and are now down to 3800 - 3900. Sales, Space Brother are at 6200 roughly, which leaves about 8800 left (5K which muse still be added). I'm not sure what numbers are "more or less brisk", but these are the facts. Brisk is relative I guess. Bottom line is that a good seller is great for us all.
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    I hear eight-track is on the rebound. Might want to fish around the yard sales for one of those Panasonic boom boxes with 8-track, AM/FM and a cool shoulder strap for rocking the 'hood. At least they still make D-cells. Glad to see the RFK '89 box going limited. Why not? I like physical product. Blu-ray's, cd's, more than just download. That being said I fleshed out my missing Dick's Picks off iTunes for a fraction of the cost of what the cd's have gone up to now. There's something reassuring about the certainty of a tangible, physical product on my shelf, should (God forbid) my laptop get stolen/destroyed, hard drive crash, etc. I have so much music from so many sources - friends who have kindly loaned things, items from the public library, iTunes and other downloadable sources, etc. It would be impossible to remember it all, were it to be lost or corrupted, however I know those cd's sitting on the shelves aren't going anywhere and as much of a pain in the ass it is to burn them all in, it's a 100% backup. I have Carbonite cloud backup as well as a portable hard drive but I don't trust it. That pole freak on Veneta is the ultimate acid casualty. Most people made it through but some of them just fried. If that dude is still breathing, he's drooling right now.
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    I have two Blue Ray and a DVD in the living room.. I found myself nodding to what the Ice Cream Kid had to say.. mhammond too. Thin is clearly correct in what he wrote.. but I have one subtle comment to add. I got into a back and forth email chain with Lemieux a few years ago about DVD's, etc. I think it was when the other Alpine show came out, and I missed it due to work.. so there was a little bite in my initial outreach. He did reply.. at length. Keeping in mind.. he was hired as the video archivist as Dick was still alive and well back then. His comment was layered, he was clearly keeping certain things close to his chest, but it was revealing nonetheless. I think the issue with video in general is the market is more segmented and aggregate demand has not justified all the costs involved getting this to market (my words, not his..). The 16,500 number (soon to be higher) is a magic number for vault releases in 2017. Keep in mind Terrapin Limited is still for sale, I'm quite sure it is limited and it has been for sale since 1997. There are tons of deadheads but not everyone has to have the 150 or shows that have already been officially released (what is that number again?). At this point, it is a numbers game for them and contrary to popular believe, once everyone (including the band) gets their cut I doubt if there are mountains of money left over. So back to the video topic.. Dave is all in with video releases. The hesitancy is not on his part. Rhino sells CD's and records.. DVD and Blue Ray is more like an after dinner mint for them.. if they sell and they make a ton of money on them, they'd do more. Reading between the lines from the correspondence all those years ago, there simply is not a terrific demand for GD DVD's. I can't get enough myself, but I say the same thing about the official CD releases too. Another factor is very few were recorded on film, most (the 89 and go forward material) was recorded on the crappy 4" tape common at the time. Find your favorite 1989 sitcom, go to YouTube and watch it.. it's grainy and has the same limitations as the stuff directed (recorded) by Len Dell'Amico during the late 80's. The video will not get better regardless of the medium as the source tapes are subpar. The sound, on the other hand, can benefit from the better mediums... depending on a few things... But look at this another way.. they do have a good bit of video recorded, some of it is pretty damned good. Most of it does have those distracting special affects baked right in. It will get released one day, perhaps they are just keeping their powder dry for when demand picks up a bit. If there are still some SSDD left and I bet they have a ton of the Fare Thee Well left (back to the numbers thing...) my guess is they are just biding their time and will begin releasing them when demand exceeds their magic number. I do prefer Blue Ray, it could be a dying medium, probably because it costs more and people are streaming a lot these days. Us hard-core, especially the audiophiles, will want DVD or probably Blue Ray. I really don't see that changing, streaming is not going to take precedent over the physical product for the person that just shelled out $12,000 for their new surround sound system. ..but who knows for sure what the future will bring except that quack Ray Kurzweil (yes.. I said that). If you made it through this post.. congrats and accept my apologies.. dry stuff.. but we like the GOGD and there's nothing boring about being there, front row center in the comforts of your own living room.
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    I was about to guess it's a hipster thing, but apparently Justin Bieber had something to do with it.Which doesn't make sense either way...
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    Spacebro - You are correct, sir. I forgot there was a DVD/Blu-ray segmentation in the Veneta release. How many Blu-rays did they produce? I don't recall how fast the DVD's sold out. I guess I passed on that because I didn't have Blu-ray AND I'm not enthralled with DVD vid quality, which is like a 720 vs 1080 pixel format (if someones previous post was accurate). I didn't really want to see Polesitter dude in 1080 OR 720 pixels - LOL. As I said earlier, I hope for both our sakes that they continue with the '89 releases. There's a ton of great stuff from that era sitting in the vault. Once the video format gets sorted out, I think we'll see a LOT of '89-'90's releases. re: Cassettes - I've heard they ARE making a comeback. Martin Sexton was on "Above the Basement" recently (highly recommended Boston-area music podcast) and he mentioned that he recently issued his recent release "Mixtape from the Road" on cassette as a novelty item and said they sold out of 1,000 of these in just a week or two, to his amazement. I blame the "Guardians of the Galaxy" movie series for romanticizing the format. https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/above-the-basement-boston-music-and-co…
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    Dead.net, please put the packaging dimensions in the description. I'd like to buy this but I need to know if it will fit on a CD shelf. I've been burned too many times on oversized packaging to blind buy a Grateful Dead box set ever again without knowing he packaging dimensions first. Thanks!
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    Numbered or Limited sets don't sound any different to me. Fact is that has nothing to do with my motivation on buying GD stuff. Actually I think I might offer a swap of my GSTL Limited box to someone who really must have it in exchange for a music only set.For the amount of bother to try and turn one of these things for the little profit, just wouldn't be worth my time. Yes I know some sets bring big pricing. Theres the moral thing as has been discussed too. All n All Im after the music. Weekend is HERE!!! 24th Anniversary is the biggie in my trailer park. Taking the wife out for Bar-B-Que and a night at the Shooting Range! Woo-Hoo!!! 9/3/93
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    Spacebro - Thanks for helping make my Blu-ray point. 8/27/72 is indeed still available after 4 years sitting on the shelf despite only producing 12,500 copies, but I find your conclusion that this means 80's is more popular than '72 laughable (respectfully) - it is rather a reflection on Blu-ray, per my previous post. 8/27/72 was a single show plus Blu-ray for $55. That is the only release I have never purchased because I don't have Blu-ray and I didn't want to blow $55 + shipping for 3 CD's I already have (from my DAT days) in pretty darn good quality. (And Mr. Polesitter guy in hi-def NOT a draw) I also doubt they have sold as much of this '89 box as you think - when they plugged the initial number into "inventory" they hadn't yet decided the final production #. Probably input a nice round 10k, not the current 15k you are using in your math. But I could be wrong. We'll find out the next time they update the site. But going numbered/limited edition should boost sales of this box. So ALL the other releases/boxes have sold out or are close to it - most at 15k units or more - while the relatively low 12,500-unit EPIC Veneta show released 4 YEARS AGO on Blu-ray still sits on the shelf... this is why they aren't releasing more Blu-ray.... edit: icecrmkid I just saw your post. I'm not saying Blu-ray is going away forever (though Betamax, Laserdisc, Selectavision, and DIVX did), but the dream of Blu-ray becoming the universal video standard, like CD is for audio, is dead. Again, I think they are waiting for a ubiquitous video format relevant to ALL before releasing more video. Veneta teaches us that Blu-ray is not the answer.
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RFK Stadium 1989 Box

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The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.

ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.

When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”

“RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”

Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.

Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”

For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.

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Submitted by LoveJerry on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 14:07

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but I would have given you mine:-) But besides, my post was more directed at Spacebrother and his need to apologize to the people who don't care of Brent.
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Submitted by snafu on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 13:48

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Ha!! I Think that was the best post on the subject yet
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Submitted by luis on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 15:31

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My comment was just a little irony about all the recurrent situation when this era discussion happens, it's always the same. Everybody has his own tastes and I respect that. In fact, I prefer 60's and 70's GD. But I like almost all they did. Even there are good 90's shows. Clearly Spacebro is a fan-atic of 80's GD, and when shows from that era are released he is overenthusiastic and passionate about it. Sometimes to the point to be offensive. But we are all sometimes fanatics too, we aren't?. It wasn't my intention to create a bad mood. Mhammond definition of genius is a interesting definition of genius, a definition that it isn't a definition, "can't define it but I recognize it when I see it." IMO, Just like Kayak Guy said about Blake, genius it's in the process, not in the outcome. -:)
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Submitted by LoveJerry on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 15:58

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You seem like a down to earth gentlemen, and I get it. Have a peaceful evening. LoveJerry possiblymaybeanother - if it were some offhanded remark by some random person, I would let it go. But Spacebrother has a long history of provoking the masses, and when he does that, he brings down the whole mood of the place, sometimes for days. That's unacceptable. People are allowed to express how they feel about a musician and band without being attacked. For my part, I stopped weighing on Brent months ago (after a PM conversation with JimInMD). But it's not fair that one guy gets to undermine the entire message board. So, I feel it's okay to ask for an apology from a guy who habitually does this. And to be frank, I have an inbox full of PMs from people who feel the same way. When he apologizes to the group, all will be forgiven and hopefully we can move on peacefully (and for my part, I won't feel I've suppressed my disdain for Brent in vain). Besides, at this point, I was simply responding to luis's post. I didn't log in here today, intent on mentioning the incident. It's a blessing he's not here, and I don't care to invoke him. But you commented, so again, I responded, and recounted the incident.
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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 15:56

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David Foster Wallace, who was mentioned earlier, was certainly a genius. It came with a lot of trouble and pain, and he ended up hanging himself in his garage. His writing does not necessarily reflect this depression, but there was always a cynicism with him. That being said, 'Infinite Jest' is one of the best books I've ever read; his short stories (check out 'Brief Interviews with Hideous Men - in particular the story "Forever Overhead") are usually great; and his essays are outstanding, in particular 'A Supposedly Fun Thing...' and 'Consider the Lobster.' His range of knowledge, and his command of the English language are incredible. That man is one of my all-time favorites, and truly deserves to be in the genius category. Zappa- Here is one that I will admit I've either A. simply not understood or B. not given enough of a chance. To be honest, I have listened to a lot of the recommendations I have seen here on Dead.net, and very few have sparked my candle... That being said, 'Hot Rats' is one hell of a good album (obviously,) and there have been moments that have made me happy - Phish covering "Peaches En Regalia" is always awesome. Overall, I would think that it is the former - I just don't really "get" what everyone raves about. Genius though? Sure! There are many geniuses that I totally don't understand... anyone here well-versed in Organic Chemisty? Astronomy? Shit, I have a lot of friends who work at Johns Hopkins and the shit they deal with on a daily basis blows my mind,... are they geniuses too? Jerry, Bobby, Billy, Micky, Phil, et al? - Perhaps, but they would laugh in your face if you ever had the chance to call them such. Miles? Hell yeah. That man was a genius, and an asshole - A lot of geniuses seem to be. Love me some Miles. Others? Hmm... "Your hands and feet are mangoes / You're gonna be a genius anyway." Peace
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Submitted by Thats_Otis on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 16:00

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My friend just turned me on to this Matrix of 10/19/81 in Palacio de los Deportes in Barcelona... It's got the hotness! Great first set, SMOKING second set! I am a fan of the Matrix, but there is a C. Miller SBD available too... https://archive.org/details/gd1981-10-19.131801.mtx-fix.dusborne.flac16 If anyone would like the Matrix of this one, let me know in PM :) Peace
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Submitted by snafu on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 17:10

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If you are comfortable in your own skin you won't need apologies or get your feelings hurt when someone viralently disagrees with you. They're wrong and you're right. If they need to be obnoxious about it they're either trolling or insecure in their perspective. In the recent discussion on genius which I think has been fun mainly because most of the participants have recognized it's just opinions being discussed and when done reasonably who cares if we disagree it's hardly the end of the world. And in that area which seems seems to generate heat the 80's shows who cares because people who believe the 80's are any good are just stupid morons whose opinions mean nothing. Whoa wait I'm just kidding personally there isn't a show that Dave etc don't deem releasable that I wouldn't buy. As for mhammond he was simply making a joke on Potter Stewart's opinion on a case before the Supreme court. That it was pretty right on just made it funnier. Bottom line have a little more faith in your opinion and trivialial issues won't ruin your day and you can save up your anger for important thing like racism. So whether FZ was a genius which of course he was unless you're a know nothing idiot you know that, sorry couldn't stop myself it isn't really very important in the bigger picture. Peace and let's all just agree with the only truly obvious fact which is Donald Trump is a political genius and we should turn over the country to him so we can get all the benefits the Donald's good buddy Duterte is giving his people
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Submitted by Erikandjenn on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 17:20

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That was the slogan used by protesters at the venue of these show's objecting to the DC councilman's movement to have them canceled. I remember (and it may be a false memory) of people holding picket signs in front of the venue telling drivers to turn on their love (head) lights in support of letting the show go on. I also remember getting that letter sent by the band to leave only footprints. A stranger I spoke to in the parking lot got a free ticket because someone in the Dead organization saw them picking up trash. Let's continue that same sentiment here and dance together in the rain for 2 days. You can't stop a good time RFK '89
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Submitted by David Duryea on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 17:29

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Bringing up Trump on dead.net? Now urine trouble.
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Submitted by possiblyMaybeAnother on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 18:07

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I saw the new Thor movie over the weekend along with a bunch of families. The two families in my row that brought food in from the concession stand left their trash all over their seats. I just don't understand this mentality that "the cleaning crew gets paid to clean it up, so I'll just leave my shit everywhere." And they're teaching their kids to do it. Awesome story about the miracles to the folks cleaning up. It doesn't matter who's around to pick up, we can all leave the place better than we found it.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 18:18

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Right on Maybe... Be considerate, be kind, be humble, be grateful. How does that saying go.. leave nothing but footprints, take nothing but pictures, kill nothing but time?
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 18:28

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....you know what grinds my gears? When I see someone in a parking lot open their car door and proceed to dump their ashtray onto the ground. Sometimes when there's a garbage can 20 ft away. God forbid they walk or something. Even the pigeons give them the evil eye. And if I'm at the grocery store, I always use a cart that's already sitting on the lot. And I'm the self-proclaimed king of recycling. Small things mean a lot. Did someone say Trump? ....Thor was fun. Looking forward to Justice League Saturday Night....
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Submitted by snafu on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 18:32

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You did get me being a wise guy right?
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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 18:46

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It's a slippery slope.
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Submitted by icecrmcnkd on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 19:15

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As a teenager I worked at a grocery store and rounding up carts in the parking lot was one of the best parts of the job, even in the snow. Don’t be so sure that you are doing someone a favor....Sometimes my friends would hang out in a car on the edges of the parking lot by empty carts, and share treats with me as I walked by.....helped me get through my shift.....
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Submitted by mhammond12 on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 19:27

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A painting by Leonardo da Vinci was sold today at auction for 450 million dollars. The buyer has remained anonymous. I wanted to break the news to my wife first.
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Submitted by tsmoore00 on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 19:28

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I read many posts, and its great getting opinions of serious Dead listeners. I appreciate the diversity of opinions. I appreciate the new insights that emerge. Sometimes we live in a bubble and wonder whats on the other side. And the band played on... And on this particularly release, an interesting era of the Dead. I gravitate towards earlier periods, but I also like and am fascinated with the summer 89 to spring 90 period. Admittedly, I was going to shows in this era and it coincides with a certain era of life, but for sheer quality of sonic fidelity, this period has the best recordings. And, the band was playing well, and arguably the last great period. I have both the Spring90 series, and the Warlocks shows. This fits in nicely with that. I think this is mixed better than Warlocks (Jeffrey Norman is simply amazing - thankfully he is doing this). Not usually a fan of the larger shows, these 2 sound great. They are clearly enjoying playing, and are in exceptional form. My favorite release has been the Europe72 set, and I think this is the best so far. A peak of peaks, but this set is in a peak period. I am grateful to be able to re-listen to these shows in hi fidelity and they bring me great joy. In the end, this is whats important to me. So much to explore and delve into, continuously. Every show has fractal dimensions...I love the exploration. The past is written in stone now, but these shows and the other releases let the stone giants dance.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 20:09

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It was purchased anonymously by a trust, big mistake to outsource the actual buy.. It's not yours yet and I'm not giving it up, thanks in advance for the loan. P.S. It looks great in my office, in between the E72 Steamer Trunk and FW Complete Recordings Box. Oh.. and yes tsmoore, the E72 box (and FW69 box). If you ask around, I believe this is the consensus...that is until the Fall 70 Capitol Theatre multi-track box set gets released in the spring. :D
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Submitted by Vguy72 on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 20:21

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....that's a lot of zeros. For a painting. The only thing I could ever imagine paying that much money for is land. Crazy. ....guess I need to turn in my Shopping Cart Helping Hand merit badge when I leave.
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Submitted by David Duryea on Thu, 11/16/2017 - 22:26

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A real pisser. /s
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Submitted by David Duryea on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 00:29

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The Grateful Dead in the Age of Reagan http://www.thehistoryreader.com/contemporary-history/grateful-dead-age-… I know the rent is in arrears The dog has not been fed in years It’s even worse than it appears But it’s all right. The cow is giving kerosene Kid can’t read at seventeen The words he knows are all obscene But it’s all right. ... Some Grateful Dead fans, including Ann Coulter and Tucker Carlson, welcomed Reagan’s presidency, and there was some conservative sentiment in the band’s inner circle. Lyricist John Perry Barlow, for example, helped coordinate Dick Cheney’s 1978 Congressional campaign in Wyoming. But Jerry Garcia, the Dead’s lead guitarist, was no Reagan fan. “Oh! Give me a break!” he exclaimed later. “I was shocked when Reagan was elected governor of California! And then, as President, we were embarrassed by the guy. I mean, he wasn’t even a good actor.” The Grateful Dead didn’t orchestrate a response to Reagan, but his decision to militarize the drug war in 1982 was deeply unpopular in Dead circles, and The Golden Road, the band’s key fanzine uncharacteristically exhorted Dead Heads to register and vote against Reagan in 1984.
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Submitted by Forensicdoceleven on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 04:04

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Hey rockers!!! Day off, up too early, too much coffee, from one year ahgo today: This is just a test, it’s all just a test……………. Fellow rockers, we’re totally spoiled by Official Releases, 30 Days Of Dead, and Charlie Miller. Such great sonic quality! But who that hears among us can listen past the sound quality into the true depths of the music? How good are you, really, at listening to the Grateful Dead? My friends, I submit to you the following: https://archive.org/details/GratefulDead?and[]=date:1971-11-17%2A See also: http://deadsources.blogspot.com/2015/03/november-17-1971-albuquerque-ci… A fine and very interesting show, marred by poor sound quality of the recording itself. Grateful Dead urban legend holds that it was recorded using a hand-held microphone placed in front of a home speaker during the broadcast. I asked DL a while back if it was in the vault, and never heard back. Did anybody in the Albuquerque area make a proper line recording? What about the radio station itself----didn’t they make a copy? Did alien renegades from Area 51 hijack it on their way back to Alpha Centauri? Who can shed light on this cosmic phenomenon? Anybody out there who would accept the challenge, and needs their own copy----purely for testing purposes----you know where to find me. On one of the outer rings of Saturn…………………. Just keepin’ it galactic, Doc The Universe, so far as we can observe it, is a wonderful and immense engine; its extent, its order, its beauty, its cruelty, makes it alike impressive…………..
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Submitted by Mind-Left-Body on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 04:31

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David Durea, Music is one of the few refuges from politics. Why poison this forum with reminders of our political struggles in this country. This place should be like Disneyland, you know, happy all the time. I don't want reality here.
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Submitted by simonrob on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 04:35

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If the local radio station did make a copy, then the chances are that they have been approached by the Cypriot mafia who buy up and release all such recordings that they can, on a wide variety of labels. There are literally hundreds, maybe thousands of such shows listed on their website.Under European copyright law (and Cyprus is in Europe) this is all perfectly above board, even though the bands never see a cent from sales. However, some of our American friends view such releases as bootlegs and will not go near them, which is naturally their prerogative.
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Submitted by mhammond12 on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 08:04

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My wife made me give the painting back. She said "Couldn't 450 million dollars be better spent on upcoming Grateful Dead releases?" And I said "Maybe even a Grateful Dead barstool. OK honey. You're right."
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Submitted by LetsGoCaps on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 09:27

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I agree. Keep your politics to yourself and I promise to do the same. It's bad enough we can't even watch football on Sundays without being punched in the face with political BS. Please, let's just enjoy and discuss the one thing all here agree on. The Grateful Dead are the most authentic and soul moving band ever assembled. Peace
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Submitted by Butch on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 09:52

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I get that people enjoy their free speech, and I'm not saying you don't have a "right" to mention politics, but in the general interest of keeping the vibes good here, I think we all make out by keeping on the topic of the music. It's nice to have an oasis from the world's ugliness.
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Submitted by snafu on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 10:31

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Just goes to show you just because someone is brilliant in the area of music doesn't mean he knows squat about other areas. And organising against Reagan in '84 how'd that work out. Oh yea learn the difference between conservative and reactionary. For those who get upset at discussions about something other than GD here sorry NOT. Go to a university safe space
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Submitted by Morning Sun on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 10:47

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"It's bad enough we can't even watch football on Sundays without being punched in the face with political BS." Here, I'll fix that for you: "Because I have the privilege of not being affected by the issue that concerns the NFL players who protest on Sundays, I am unconcerned with it, nay, I declare it is imaginary. And anyone who points out it is not imaginary for others is interrupting my peaceful enjoyment of the human-on-human violence I paid for." This and other 'no politics' comment are also a strange reaction to a pretty mild, history review. Speaking of the imaginary, seems to me the level for 'genius' is being set fairly low. Lots of the people mentioned are right (high level) talent at the right time at the right place. And if I had to vote, I might put Don Glen Vliet above Frank Zappa--Captain Beefheart more fully realized his peculiar vision, whereas Zappa (to me) never could quite reconcile the juvenile/adult and sarcastic/serious axes, among others, in which he found himself. I love Zappa, in many of his incarnations, yet in the end he was a traditionalist revolting against his perception that the classic was being forgotten/degraded, while Beefheart was building on and then finally rocketing away from his loved tradition (Zappa more classical and doo-wop, Beefheart the blues). Zappa certainly produced more, in more different directions. A Zappa concert was interesting, energizing, and invoked wonder; Beefheart ('68-'73) changed your life.
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Submitted by LetsGoCaps on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 11:17

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Hey sun, ya don't know me, so please stop pretending like you do. Nothing about that NFL statement takes a side on the issue. You just self righteously decided to take a side for me, and then belittle it with some sophomoric snark. Way to go!
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Submitted by daverock on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 11:22

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I was interested in David's post about The Dead in the 1980s. Music doesn't exist in a vacuum, and I always find it helpful when someone describes a perspective on how the world was, at the time music was created. To say this place should be like visiting Disneyland doesn't appeal to me. To me, getting into The Dead, and music in general in the 1970s was part and parcel of dropping out of mainstream society. I definitely dropped back in again-but I was a very different man when I did, as a consequence of my experiences on the outside. Me and millions of others. If this hadn't been the case, we would still be living in the 1950s. To liken the culture of The Dead to Disneyland seems hugely reductive. I have also never been a big fan of so called "good vibes". It always reminds me of people who say "Have a nice day". Insincere and shallow. An honest exchange of disparate views amongst people who respect each other is surely preferable. Who knows, we might even learn something.
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Submitted by philledawg on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 11:34

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Fryday
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Submitted by philledawg on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 11:32

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No rhyme or reason as I ordered half dozen for my crew just last week, delivered 2day....all 11000+
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Submitted by philledawg on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 11:35

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RAYGUN won the pres when I was attending SDSU. I remember thinking..."The world, as we know it, is over." TG 4 Jerry and the Boys!
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Submitted by SPACEBROTHER on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 11:55

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For the most part, music in the 80's sucked. The entire political climate in the '80's sucked. The Grateful Dead were clearly the best thing happening in the '80's musically and socially, and they stepped-up to the plate and delivered big time, despite the time frame. The Dead were able to channel the shitty represive climate of the 80's and create something beautiful. Perhaps some of the ill will towards the Dead in the 80's is motivated by the fact that the Dead stood up in the face of a shitty sociol-political climate and delivered some of the most inspired and well played performances of their career. On another note, I make no apologies for making an honest assessment of how I see things. If someone expects one, don't hold your breath.
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Submitted by simonrob on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 12:05

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I am confused and not a little disappointed that a significant number of people who post on this site are totally unable to either take any sort of criticism, however mild, or to accept other people's points of view on various subjects without feeling the need to verbally lash out in all directions in a (dare I say it) Trumpo the clown-like manner. This, naturally, only demeans these people themselves but it does make me wonder why people are so intolerant of the views of others these days. It doesn't bother me if people post mildly political posts or suchlike on here. It bothers me far more that some people react to them in a manner that suggests that they themselves have some underlying personality defects which they are unable to control. PS: I agree wholeheartedly with Spacebro's assertion that for the most part, music in the 80's sucked. The Grateful Dead were also not immune, but their music did suffer less than that of most of their contemporaries.
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Submitted by Morning Sun on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 13:13

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"...being punched in the face with political BS." "Nothing about that NFL statement takes a side on the issue." Something is not like the other. Maybe you meant to say: "Even when I turn on NFL football, people are engaged in political talk and activity, and I do not want to deal with it. I want to separate my entertainment and my politics." Which is fine, and takes no side. But I responded to what you did say--violent, dismissive, deriding, and contemptuous. If that is not you, all to the good. There won't be comparable things written.
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Submitted by David Duryea on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 13:52

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"This place should be like Disneyland" Never got to see it. When I lived in SoCal 50 years ago they wouldn't let me in because I had 'long hair'.
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Submitted by MadDoc on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 15:40

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Whatever you do ... don't dose at Disney.
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Submitted by JimInMD on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 16:42

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Do tell.. I'm envisioning winding up in the Disney Brig, three floors below crowd above in the belly of the theme park.. being berated by Chernabog. There's a story here just waiting to be told. I know when the Dead played at Hershey Park in 85.. lots of people dosed and played the day away in the theme park.. I bet Dennis remembers...
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Submitted by Charlie3 on Fri, 11/17/2017 - 17:39

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On an early summer evening in 1985 my brother and I were driving around the back roads with our friend Scott, deciding what to do with the night, when we decided to make a quick stop at some unfinished office buildings to answer natures call. Unfortunately the police were also cruising around the area and pulled up to investigate, subsequently making us the first to be pulled over and cursorily searched on Ronald Reagan Boulevard in Warwick, NY. My friend and I were just of age, but my brother was not and there was casual discussion of the idea of charges relating to corrupting a minor before they confiscated our beer. Good thing the search was cursory or it might have really derailed the evening. That same friend and I used to talk a lot of shit about a young actor around that time or a little later, a young guy named Johnny Depp making it look cool to be some kind of narc arresting high school kids on 21 Jump Street, a show doing what looked a lot like propaganda for the 1980's drug war. Just some random recollections sparked by the earlier Reagan posts.
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Submitted by unkle sam on Sat, 11/18/2017 - 06:59

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hard to believe someone said the T word and said he was the greatest. If it was a joke, it's not funny. I'm sure they are the same ones who said that Reagan was a great guy. Anyone who was not a child during those years knew how bad Raygun really was, but if you were a child, well, read history books and not the ones they gave you in school. Dosing at Disney was the best time I ever had there, altho it was not Disneyland, but Disneyworld. Space mountain was a real experience as was laughing at all of the tourist in their tourist outfits. Had a blast and I would do it again in a heartbeat. (sure would like to try it again on those red dragons or gold dolphins) The Police came out of the floor at the tomorrowland theater and blew us all away. Giant steps are what you take, walking on the moon.... Caught D and C last night on Colbert, wow, who was out of tune and off key and flat? Way too slow. These guys really need to work on their tempo cause it's just off. Sure hope they get it together before the Fla shows, would not be good if they got booed or worse yet, people just got up and walked out. It's all ready obvious that they are not selling out these shows, which must be a real surprise to them. I realize they are old and slowing down, but this is spoon fed Dead if I ever heard it, sure can't say without a net anymore, more like with a net and pillows. I realize they only had 5 mins to do a song, which just ain't enough time to do a Hunter/Garcia tune and do it right. loved Mickeys wig, the only one who was weird, which is a good thing in deadland. Bobby looked good but as my wife said, "he's not young anymore, hope he doesn't wear shorts at the fla shows" lol.
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