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    Our First ’80s Box: The Complete 1989 Hampton “Warlocks” Shows on 6 CDs!

    It is a measure of the Grateful Dead’s confidence going into their fall 1989 East Coast tour that they decided to travel with the state-of-the-art Le Mobile remote recording truck so they could capture a bunch of their shows on 24-track tape, with an eye towards putting out a live album in the summer of 1990 in conjunction with a European tour that was already in the works. (Indeed the band recorded a number of shows on multi-track through the spring of 1990. The eventual album was Without a Net, released in September 1990.)

    There’s no question that the band had been on fire for quite a while. If you’re familiar with the CD/DVD releases Truckin’ Up to Buffalo from July 4, 1989, Crimson, White & Indigo from July 7 (Philly) and the video-only Downhill From Here from July 19 (Alpine Valley, Wis.) — not to mention the earlier nationwide telecast of the Summer Solstice show from Shoreline Amphitheater (Mountain View, Calif., June 21) — you know the group was playing at an exceptionally high level, arguably getting stronger each tour since Garcia’s remarkable resurrection following his Summer ’86 meltdown/near-death. The band had also been in the studio working on a new album, Built to Last (released Halloween ’89), and that newish material was starting to sharpen up on the road, too.

    When the first few dates of the October ’89 East Coast tour were announced, the Hampton (Virginia) Coliseum, long one of the band’s favorite places (and the site of many a fine Dead show) was not included on the list. You see, there had been some problems outside the last shows the band had played there — too many ticketless folks, too crazy a scene — and the powers-that-be in Hampton weren’t sure they wanted the Dead back at all. This is a problem the Dead encountered a lot during their post “Touch of Grey” renaissance, so the band got creative: Just ten days before the tour was to begin, the Dead suddenly announced a pair of “stealth” shows at Hampton set for October 8 and 9, 1989. There were no mail-order tickets sold for these gigs (as was common in those days); in fact, ducats were only sold in Southern Virginia through local ticket outlets, as a way to keep out the inevitable Dead Head invasion that followed the band everywhere. Instead of “Grateful Dead,” the tickets said “Formerly The Warlocks” on them, and when fans arrived at the gig those nights, the marquee read “The Warlocks.” Non-Deadheads passing the Coliseum must have been very confused seeing a band they’d probably never heard of headlining the arena. That, of course, was the point.

    The folks who were lucky enough to score tickets for the “Warlocks” shows in Hampton were treated to two of the most exciting shows of the year. Because not only was the group playing great, they had also taken the time to rehearse some old favorites they hadn’t tackled in a number of years, including “Dark Star,” the glorious triumvirate of “Help on the Way” > “Slipknot!” > “Franklin’s Tower,” “Death Don’t Have No Mercy” (played just once at Shoreline 11 days earlier), and perhaps most surprising of all, “Attics of My Life” (unplayed since 1972!). Not surprisingly, the crowd greeted these “revivals” with ecstasy bordering on hysteria. Can I get a “Woo-hooooo!”?

    Over the course of the two concerts, the band offered up what was practically a career retrospective, delving into crowd pleasing nuggets ranging from “Playing in the Band” to “Bird Song” to “Uncle John’s Band” to “Eyes of the World” to a spectacular “Morning Dew”; raucous rockers including “I Need a Miracle,” “Good Lovin’” and that incendiary Brent-Phil stomper “Gimme Some Lovin’”; and recent tunes such as “Foolish Heart,” “Victim or the Crime” and “Built to Last,” among many others (“Dear Mr. Fantasy”! “Stuck Inside of Mobile”! Lotsa good stuff, for sure.) You can find the complete set lists here.

    The Formerly The Warlocks box collects every note of the band’s two nights there, spread over six CDs. The concerts were originally recorded by Grateful Dead sound wizard John Cutler in the Le Mobile remote truck, and mixed recently by longtime Grateful Dead-associate and Bob Weir/RatDog studio engineer and front-of-house mixer Mike McGinn. As always, the discs have been mastered to HDCD specifications, so needless to say, it sounds like you’re there, in the best seats in the house.

    As this is the latest in a distinguished line of remarkable complete-run boxes (which includes Fillmore West 1969, and Winterland 1973 and Winterland June 1977), the folks at Rhino have gone above and beyond to design a package that’s (almost) as exciting as the music. This time out, they’ve packaged the CDs in a wooden replica of a cigar box (Virginia being a tobacco state dating back to colonial times), and filled it with all sorts of goodies, from a photo-laden historical essay by your humble narrator, to various pieces of cool memorabilia from the time/shows we won’t spoil for you by describing here.

    All in all, it’s a potent blast of the Dead at their late ’80s best that you won’t want to miss. To order your copy of the Formerly The Warlocks box, click here!

    NOTE: Now available for PRE-ORDER ONLY. Item is estimated to ship on September 7, 2010.

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    Anonymous (not verified)
    14 years 3 months ago
    Nice dissection, MGD
    I enjoyed both your reviews immensely. Though some might find certain parts of what you say heretical, I enjoyed hearing a seasoned head's opinion who doesn't just "roll over and play Dead".I agree with about 90% of both reviews. Blair Jackson et al? You should employ this guy to write reviews of new product on dead,net. Just my opinion. As usual, many will disagree...
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    MGD
    14 years 3 months ago
    Additional thoughts on this release.
    Moving on to the next night, October 9th. Reading the comments in the show section, I realize how much enthusiasm for these shows there is: http://www.dead.net/show/october-8-1989. And this is a great souvenir for anyone who was there. There’s no doubt that you can hear the crowd going crazy the entire time, but I think this is a case where the collective memory of the event is a little bit better than the real thing. If I was at these shows, I would buy this, and maybe that’s the point: if you count those who only attended one night, there were probably at least 20,000 people who attended these concerts, most of whom are still alive today. If G.D. & Co. can sell at least a few thousand units of this release, that would probably be a success. Of course, they’re not going to come out and say you probably don’t need this unless you’re a hardcore collector or you were actually there; they’re going to let you figure that out on your own. October 9th is a better show, to be sure, than the previous night. The 1st set is better overall. However, I reiterate that the 1st sets of both these shows could have been chopped up nicely into a fine “dream set” sequence. You’ve got a solid “Feel Like A Stranger” out of the gates, leading into “Built To Last,“ which is not as good as “Foolish Heart,“ and suffers from Jerry tinkering with the MIDI trumpet effect for the solo. “Little Red Rooster” is something reliable and straightforward for them to get their bearings with, and Brent makes some nice contributions. A lively “Ramble On Rose,“ a nicely done “We Can Run,“ and the always cool “Jack-A-Roe” follow, and then “Stuck Inside of Mobile,“ a lively version. Things get off track with “Row Jimmy” with Jerry taking an unnecessarily long flute MIDI solo. The set wraps with “The Music Never Stopped.“ I would chop the 1st sets like this: “Foolish Heart>Walking Blues,“ then “Ramble>Jack>We Can Run,“ followed by “Rooster,” then “Birdsong” from the 8th, then back to the 9th for the set closer of “Music.“ That would give you an 8 song 1st set, and a much better one, that you might actually want to listen to. An example of a crisp, well-played 1st set from this same era is from “Nightfall of Diamonds,“ recorded a week later, so we know it was possible for them to do it. Moving on to the 2nd set of October 9th, things kick off with a somewhat perfunctory “Playin’>Uncle John’s Band,“ a tried and true combination, and one that they could be counted on to screw up night after night. The version here is totally forgettable. Incidentally, they played a similar combination of songs at the “Nightfall” show, and they messed up the “Uncle John’s” badly at that show as well. At one point during the October 9th performance, Brent clearly sings, “how does THIS song go?“ This is all fine and good, but do we really need to hear this? I guarantee that you will rarely, if ever, listen to this part of the show. Moving on to the “Dark Star.“ The roar of the crowd at the opening notes is incredible. This is of course the first “Dark Star” in 5 years at that time, so it’s difficult to judge it against anything else. It represents the return of “Dark Star” as a semi-regular showpiece, and one wonders how much this was really needed. This version isn’t too bad, Jerry delivers the words nicely, and they take it pretty far out into dissonant and abstract sonic landscapes using MIDI effects, but it doesn’t have anywhere near the dynamics or group interplay of old. They really could have put “Dark Star” to rest after 1979 and it wouldn’t have mattered. Next, you have the “Drums>Space” section. Just for a moment, lets be realistic about this obligatory segment in the typical Dead show. It was usually filler. It gave everyone a chance to take a little break, and play with their new effects. And it took up too much time in a show that could have been devoted to a few more songs. Let’s face it, the new MIDI technology was a real mixed blessing. They WAY overused it. They would force it into songs where it didn’t belong and then they would treat the audience to an excessively long workout of MIDI effects during “Drums>Space.” That’s not to say that sometimes it didn’t sound cool, but it was often overdone. I find myself preferring the older “Space” segments from around 1979 to 1983, they played some really beautiful stuff during those years using mostly just their analog effects pedals. Take for example Dick’s Picks 5 and 6, and the more recent Road Trips from Oakland ‘79. Much better and more interesting, in my opinion. Back to the performance. True to its name, “Dark Star” dissolves into some pretty menacing and dark sonic landscapes before giving way to “Drums.” There are a couple of loud, jarring noises during the drum solo that sound unintentional. Then the “Space” section begins - more MIDI. Finally Jerry strums the opening chords of “Death Don’t Have No Mercy.” This is a nice version, very impassioned vocals from Jerry, Bob, and Brent. And who says the Grateful Dead were some kind of unicorns and rainbows hippy band? Whoever says that never listened to them, I assure you. This is dark stuff, but amazing. And briefly, regarding Brent: when he died, the band died, in many ways. They lost a lot when they lost him. I know he has his detractors, but often times his youthful energy and bluesy edge really carried the band on any given evening and inspired Jerry to stretch himself more than he would have. When you think about it, they had maybe about a year or so of interesting shows with Bruce Hornsby, but this also coincided with Jerry’s decline and unfortunately Vince was no Brent. So when you listen to this show, you’re hearing the final days of what was the last great era of the Grateful Dead. After “Death,” they continue with a nice run of “Dear Mr. Fantasy>Hey Jude>Throwin’ Stones>Good Lovin’.” This is a well done section, once again featuring Brent. “Good Lovin’” is especially lively. And of course, the “Attics of My Life” is one of those epic moments, and the crowd was well aware of that. “Attics” is such a gorgeous song, it was one of those that the band really should have performed more, but the harmonies are tough and it takes concentration. This marked the revival of “Attics,” and I haven’t heard every version they did after this but I would bet that this was maybe the best of the bunch. My final verdict is if these shows had been packaged like “Dozin’ At the Knick” I would consider buying it, but at $80.00 I just can’t do it. If you buy this, the only part you’ll listen to consistently will be the last 2/3rds of the 2nd set of the 2nd show. That’s roughly 1 ½ discs out of 6 that you have to buy. In my book, that’s not worth it, unless you just have to have everything, you have money to throw away (and who really does, nowadays?) or you were there, in which case I would probably buy it, too. If you don’t fit into any of the above 3 groups, I would stay away from this one, and I’ve bought a lot of stuff from G.D. & Co. over the years.
  • ironman88
    14 years 3 months ago
    One off the wish-list!
    I'm pretty damned pleased to see this release. 10/09/89 is one of my favourite shows. In fact, I'm quite sure that I've requested the "Warlock" shows be a release at some point in my postings to this site. So thanks for listening. A Sunshine Daydream DVD and Europe '72 Box Set surely can't be too far behind. I swear that I got goosebumps and the hairs on my arms stood up the first time I listened to 10/09 and heard the audience reaction to the opening notes of Dark Star. (Mind you, I get the exact same sensation every time I watch that scene in "The Shining" where the little kid's riding his tricycle down the hotel corridor). And, what's a Box Set without special packaging. I'm looking forward to getting this one.
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It is a measure of the Grateful Dead’s confidence going into their fall 1989 East Coast tour that they decided to travel with the state-of-the-art Le Mobile remote recording truck so they could capture a bunch of their shows on 24-track tape, with an eye towards putting out a live album in the summer of 1990 in conjunction with a European tour that was already in the works. (Indeed the band recorded a number of shows on multi-track through the spring of 1990. The eventual album was Without a Net, released in September 1990.)

There’s no question that the band had been on fire for quite a while. If you’re familiar with the CD/DVD releases Truckin’ Up to Buffalo from July 4, 1989, Crimson, White & Indigo from July 7 (Philly) and the video-only Downhill From Here from July 19 (Alpine Valley, Wis.) — not to mention the earlier nationwide telecast of the Summer Solstice show from Shoreline Amphitheater (Mountain View, Calif., June 21) — you know the group was playing at an exceptionally high level, arguably getting stronger each tour since Garcia’s remarkable resurrection following his Summer ’86 meltdown/near-death. The band had also been in the studio working on a new album, Built to Last (released Halloween ’89), and that newish material was starting to sharpen up on the road, too.

When the first few dates of the October ’89 East Coast tour were announced, the Hampton (Virginia) Coliseum, long one of the band’s favorite places (and the site of many a fine Dead show) was not included on the list. You see, there had been some problems outside the last shows the band had played there — too many ticketless folks, too crazy a scene — and the powers-that-be in Hampton weren’t sure they wanted the Dead back at all. This is a problem the Dead encountered a lot during their post “Touch of Grey” renaissance, so the band got creative: Just ten days before the tour was to begin, the Dead suddenly announced a pair of “stealth” shows at Hampton set for October 8 and 9, 1989. There were no mail-order tickets sold for these gigs (as was common in those days); in fact, ducats were only sold in Southern Virginia through local ticket outlets, as a way to keep out the inevitable Dead Head invasion that followed the band everywhere. Instead of “Grateful Dead,” the tickets said “Formerly The Warlocks” on them, and when fans arrived at the gig those nights, the marquee read “The Warlocks.” Non-Deadheads passing the Coliseum must have been very confused seeing a band they’d probably never heard of headlining the arena. That, of course, was the point.

The folks who were lucky enough to score tickets for the “Warlocks” shows in Hampton were treated to two of the most exciting shows of the year. Because not only was the group playing great, they had also taken the time to rehearse some old favorites they hadn’t tackled in a number of years, including “Dark Star,” the glorious triumvirate of “Help on the Way” > “Slipknot!” > “Franklin’s Tower,” “Death Don’t Have No Mercy” (played just once at Shoreline 11 days earlier), and perhaps most surprising of all, “Attics of My Life” (unplayed since 1972!). Not surprisingly, the crowd greeted these “revivals” with ecstasy bordering on hysteria. Can I get a “Woo-hooooo!”?

Over the course of the two concerts, the band offered up what was practically a career retrospective, delving into crowd pleasing nuggets ranging from “Playing in the Band” to “Bird Song” to “Uncle John’s Band” to “Eyes of the World” to a spectacular “Morning Dew”; raucous rockers including “I Need a Miracle,” “Good Lovin’” and that incendiary Brent-Phil stomper “Gimme Some Lovin’”; and recent tunes such as “Foolish Heart,” “Victim or the Crime” and “Built to Last,” among many others (“Dear Mr. Fantasy”! “Stuck Inside of Mobile”! Lotsa good stuff, for sure.) You can find the complete set lists here.

The Formerly The Warlocks box collects every note of the band’s two nights there, spread over six CDs. The concerts were originally recorded by Grateful Dead sound wizard John Cutler in the Le Mobile remote truck, and mixed recently by longtime Grateful Dead-associate and Bob Weir/RatDog studio engineer and front-of-house mixer Mike McGinn. As always, the discs have been mastered to HDCD specifications, so needless to say, it sounds like you’re there, in the best seats in the house.

As this is the latest in a distinguished line of remarkable complete-run boxes (which includes Fillmore West 1969, and Winterland 1973 and Winterland June 1977), the folks at Rhino have gone above and beyond to design a package that’s (almost) as exciting as the music. This time out, they’ve packaged the CDs in a wooden replica of a cigar box (Virginia being a tobacco state dating back to colonial times), and filled it with all sorts of goodies, from a photo-laden historical essay by your humble narrator, to various pieces of cool memorabilia from the time/shows we won’t spoil for you by describing here.

All in all, it’s a potent blast of the Dead at their late ’80s best that you won’t want to miss. To order your copy of the Formerly The Warlocks box, click here!

NOTE: Now available for PRE-ORDER ONLY. Item is estimated to ship on September 7, 2010.

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It is a measure of the Grateful Dead’s confidence going into their fall 1989 East Coast tour that they decided to travel with the state-of-the-art Le Mobile remote recording truck so they could capture a bunch of their shows on 24-track tape, with an eye towards putting out a live album in the summer of 1990 in conjunction with a European tour that was already in the works. (Indeed the band recorded a number of shows on multi-track through the spring of 1990. Then eventual album was Without a Net, released in September 1990.)

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While these are in wide circulation, this will be a great release. I remember first reading about these shows in the Golden Road a couple of months after they occurred (news traveled slow in those days), and was floored by the setlists. It began a short renaissance in the band's setlists and playing.
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but undeserving of a box. C'mon Rhinos, while you are producing good product why not choose something that isn't so available?
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Is this a quantum leap in pricing? Spare us the fancy packaging and the associated costs. Give us the music in pristine condition at a fair price and you'll have us eating out of your hands forever.
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... a little pricey but excellent shows, can't wait to sink my ears into them.
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...but why didn't the band VIDEOTAPE this run! Even basic footage would have made this purchase a no-brainer.
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"two of the most exciting shows of the year"???? how about two of the most exciting shows of their career? 21 years later, these two nights remain two of the best nights of my entire life. no exaggeration at all.
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...what I REALLY want to see are some Hi-Def surround sound releases. I think it's a complete shame to take a pristine 24 track recording and mix it down to a 2 track CD format. Especially when we're talking about such exceptional shows! Why not also offer these shows on Blu Ray in 5.1, or even 7.1? Imagine being able to listen to one of these shows without interruption, from start to finish, like you were right there again. C'mon folks, these shows deserve better!
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89 bucks (ha..with tax and shipping) for a 89 Dead show. All that mediocre stuff is anyways available on the bootleg trail. I would never buy this. I have heard the warlock shows at bit.All late Dead for me. Keep with the prime stuff, most will appreciate more and more than likely purchase Come on guys, Rhino Xeks, Reap the benefit of better pricing and better gear. This is pushing the envelope of reality. Especially in this economy. What economy? Tragic!! If you come to fork in the road, take it.......Yogi Berra
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$70 for 2 shows is ridiculous. I have purchased most releases even if I have copies already.......if they are reasonably priced. This one isn't. I will stick with what I have this time. ;-(
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No bonus disc? Why would I should I purchase this from GD? I'll wait a few months and purchase from another site for $25.00!
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well I'll take this for sure, especially since its mixed off the 24 track tapes. Thanks for the release. But maybe hold off any more '89 shows for a while now please :-) Looks like the anti bonus disk lobby has won the day too. Not sure what I think about that.
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I've been waiting for an official release of these shows for over 20 years. I can barely contain my exitement. This is the best Grateful Dead release ever. Ordered with RT vol 3 #4. Feels like Christmas arrived with my birthday. Everybody who is complaining about the price, the year or the era are completely nuts. If you don't like it, go buy a Lady Gaga download or Nickleback release. Bunch of fricken babies.
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I will take one!!! I also have a old copy of these amazing shows but not in HDCD. If it is crisp I have no complaints with it. Seriously I agree with with spacebrother in every way. All we have done over the years is beg for some complete shows and all of a sudden we have the coveted Warlocks shows. Thanks man and stop whining!
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Looking forward to this one. Now get to work on that Complete Radio City Box. ;)
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If you order with the new Road Trips you get free shipping. That's 9 cds for about $94. That's not too bad. It looks like it's a Rhino release, so you can probably get it cheaper from Amazon later. Disappointed there's no bonus disk with the RT release though. I'm a little biased, since I was at one of the Hampton shows, but I'm thrilled with this release. I jumped on it as soon as I heard about it. I can't wait to hear them in their full glory. Thanks for this one!
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This is a great release. A little expensive but I am sure the quality will be A+. Between 87-90 my favorite dead years, I'm major Brent Fan. Football, new dead, and hoefully futhur tix for DCU Center would make a perfect month of Sept!
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Wasn't there a comment posted by Rhino a few months ago that they were planning to take a hiatus from 1989 after the Philly set came out? Good news, they didn't stick the plan. It will be interesting to see how the engineers handled the overwhelming audience cheer that occured when the Grateful Dead launched into Dark Star.
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Really? Someone's calling this "mediocre stuff?" I know what that means- they weren't there. So sorry for them, these shows were epic. Spend your money or don't spend your money, but take a free listen to a friend's bootleg before calling it mediocre. I don't need to, I was there, and these shows were absolutely priceless. Too bad you missed it!
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Times are too tight for many people right now for this sorta thing. I thought much of the playing on these shows was sloppy or just underwhelming (Don't get me wrong,I do love '89-'90). If I had the money to burn I'd probably get it, but I don't. I really wish that someday soon we will see a Europe '72 box set with like 10-12 cd's of primo stuff.
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about every release ... "we want full shows", this is too expensive, why no bonus discs ... So here we have two full shows (over packaged, perhaps) and a RT release that is three discs though the price is more than the former two disc shows at 19.98 with a bonus disc. So now if you order early or late, you still get the three discs, but have pay more. Not making much sense this late at night, but I am happy to have all of this, though I will probably spread out the purchases. If you don't like it, don't buy it. There are plenty of opportunities to find these shows in excellent quality if you want. Thanks Rhino, and keep 'em coming!
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I appreciate the effort being put into making the cigar box packaging, but honestly, the music is neither more nor less than we normally would expect from a pair of similarly HDCD mastered sets selling for $19.98 (witness the not-too-ancient "To Terrapin" release at that price). The doo-dads and thingamajigs that are thrown in to prettify it are nice, but are they $30 worth of nice? This is EXACTLY the sort of product that benefits from the inclusion of a limited-release bonus disc. Too bad the marketers at Rhino never thought of that idea... oh, wait! They did--woulda cost another $0.72 to include on those first 2,000 boxes, though, so that would have cut into the profits...
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I really enjoyed seeing the Grateful Dead play at the Hampton Coliseum. I thought they played a good run of shows there in 87 and 88. I was sad about the problems occuring at some shows, including those in Virginia. It was unfortunate that those problems could have stopped the Grateful Dead from playing shows at Hampton. It was obvious that they really seemed to enjoy playing there and I really enjoyed seeing them too. I was pleasently surprised to hear that they had planned to play in Hampton as "Formerly The Warlocks". Of course tickets were only available in the area. A friend of mine knew someone who lived in the area and her father actually stood in line to get us tickets. My friend was connected with the Charlotte music scene and the local newspaper found out we were going. They sent a reporter and photographer with us to document the shows since the Grateful Dead were scheduled to play in Charlotte shortley after the Hampton shows. I had a feeling that they were going to pull out some rare songs since they were playing as The Warlocks. I thought the band was playing pretty well. I really enjoyed hearing Help On The Way - Slipknot - Franklins Tower. I saw that at my first show there in 83. My profile picture is my reaction to that combo. It made it to the cover of the living section in the Charlotte Observer. We managed to get on the front row right in front of Phil for the second show. The reaction when they started to play Dark Star was so startling that I looked back at the croud that all seemed to be several feet off the ground. That was great to hear, but I was really blown away by the Death Don't Have No Mercy and the Attacks Of My Life. All and all a real fun time.Considering the importance of these shows, I was surprised that it wasn't released earlier. I have had excellent recordings of these shows for years. Also have the excellent amature video of the shows. It will finally be nice to have an official high quality release.
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Come on people! Killer show. Cool packageing. For around $10 a disc?! And you guys complaining about this? Are you people nuts? This is the most exicting release since Winterland '77. And incredibly cheap. I am very excited about this. To put this release into context take a look at what the Rolling Stones did to their fans recently on the re-release of Exile on Main Street and Ya Yas. (Here's a hint: it is the same thing Tiger Woods likes to do to cocktail waitresses -- and Mick Jagger doesn't even have the common courtesy to give you a reach around.) The Grateful Dead are the most generous band in the history of recorded music. The only thing that has me worried about this box set is the fact that Mike McGinn mixed it. If this release sounds as bad as the mix David Glasser did to Crimson, White, & Indigo then our faith is in vain, and it would have been better if it hadn't been released at all. Jeffery Norman where are you? Jerffery Norman can make a Dead show sing in the same way that Leonard Bernstein could make a Mahler Symphony come alive. Listening to a Dead show mixed by Glasser is like listening to the Vienna Philharmonic conducted by Paul Shaffar.
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*Whew* That first solo in "Death Don't" just *smokes*. Judging from the listening party, they've jacked Phil WAY up in the mix... Is this thing WAY overpriced ? Hell, yes. Do I want it ? Ditto....
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cant wait for this one i agree with the price thing i will pay a higher price here in the uk but its from 89 a grate brent year.If its anywhere near as good as crimson white and indigo it is worth it.CANT WAIT WEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
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Personally, I hope the whole limited bonus disc thing is done for good. As far as the price, I really don't find it THAT bad and I'm a poor person. I'll be buying this REAL soon!!! The nine cd box was over a $110.00 with shipping so the price hasn't really gone up if you figure it out for six discs. The new three cd Road Trips is only a buck or two more than Dicks Picks three cd sets are. I really don't get what people are complaining about as these are just the regular prices that we've been getting charged all along. "Belive it if you need it, if you don't, just pass it on." On the wall of the garden a legend did say: "No one may come here since no one may stay."
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...but I still wouldn't have bought it even if it had a bonus disc.
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I can't believe the whining that occurs every time something is released. If you don't like it' don't buy it.
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this is great and all i cant wait to hear it but what about that miami dark star it goes way deeper.
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yes, I already have these soundboards, but these should a huge sonic upgrade. Purchased one last night, love these box sets!! Too bad it wasn't a three night run, or we would be getting nine cd's!
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I don't care about the price. I hope it sounds better than JFK. That one's a joke. I'm getting tired of being ripped off. I've bought nearly all the releases. I'm done if this one's as bad as JFK. One of my favorite show's ruined. After it was talked about for years. Disgraceful.
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I have nothing to complain about. Does that make me a bad person?
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That is all. Nothing to tell now, let the words be yours I am done with mine...
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Thank you folks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (PS - I hope you delete the negative posts with impunity)
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One of the great thing for me about these releases is I get to own some live stuff without having to invest my time in the trading community. I gave up on that in my late teens. Too much time and energy for me.
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YES!!! These are easily, and I know these are fightin' words, some of the best Grateful Dead shows of all time. Second night should be in any serious Head's top 5 ever. Blistering, explosive, sublime, perfect, dimension-blowing. Too bad to see so many complaints about the price. Gimme a break! People spend 69 bucks at a bar or on their head or stomach without thinking twice. Or keep listening to the bootleg--I'm sure it sounds great. Personally, I like the fancy packaging and extra goodies. These nights are a treasure and should be honored as such. Do agree that multi-track on a single disc would be epic, though. Keep 'em coming!!! '87 Kingswood! '90 Nassau! '77 Swing! Muchos Garcias, folks!
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Fellas, Are you turning into the Rolling Stones? 70 Bucks?? You didn't spend six months in a studio. You spent two nights playing music. Did the tickets even cost that much? I'm wondering if you are the same guys I used to go see. Ya think Pig and Jerry would have suggested this price?
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Geez fellas, Just listened to Death on the listening party. Even though I already have these shows, the remastering may be worth the 70. Hey, it's not the first time I've doubted you. Pig 'd be proud.
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i don't have 70 for it.
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Oh man oh man, 80 and then 89?!?! I am one happy fan, and thank you all for keeping the shows coming. No gripe here from me, yeah money is tight, but I just ordered both releases and could not be more pleased. 90 bucks well spent as far as I am concerned, and glad to see that there is demand for these being released at all. Us Dead fans are an opinionated bunch of souls, and that is a wonderful aspect of this community. Gives me great pleasure to think I may have run into some of you at shows starting in 87 thru 93. Take care all and I hope some of you make it to the Eugene shows with Bob and Phil; throw down in Eugene and we are ready!
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benfegitas To the person who told people to buy Lady Gaga if this was to much. You must have been one of the lucky ones to get government (our/taxpayer) bailouts. The rest of us are just getting by and don't need special boxes that add a lot to the cost and don't fit into our collections. To the person who wants to delete negative comments move to China you and Google will get along fine. Now that I've gotten that off my chest... I have been one who has numerous times supported Rhino when others were trashing them I feel well positioned to point out their mistake at putting out a deluxe edition in these times. By the way to those who think it is just great to get a fancy box, be careful what you wish for. If they sell 10,000 as is as opposed to 50,000 of a more moderately priced set how many more releases do you think they will see. As for no bonus disc it is actually a blessing in disguise. Those of us who have bills to pay outside of giving mom and dad 50 bucks to live at home can wait without missing anything
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I don't know about most of you people, but I don't have $70+ shipping costs to spend on cd's. I don't have money to spend on cd's at all anymore. A friend recently introduced me to a new hobby which is fun and free. It's as simple as going down to your local public library, checking out a bunch of cds, uploading them to itunes and syncing them to your ipod. If you're short on cash like many people are these days, some libraries carry a wealth of excellent music.
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These are great, great shows. I'll never forget the night a friend and I listened to the "Dark Star" show on a great quality audience tape -- probably my most unforgettable experience listening to a tape!It may be a while before I scrape the money together for this box but I definitely want it. Those folks complaining about the price...they've got a point. I'd rather pay less for the music without the fancy packaging (same goes for the previous boxes) but I'll buy it anyway. One thing, though, for $70 can we get better sleeves than the cardboard that scratches the discs? The last two boxes had cardboard sleeves. If we're shelling out big bucks for premium packaging we should get sleeves that don't scratch the discs. That should be standard in any package, cheap or premium. Not trying to be negative, just sayin'.
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yeah i guess Im in line for this,,i dont know about the mix down though? The Le Mobile' truck deal sounds good as a base,, but im used to Jeffery Normans work and Im wondering why they didnt have him do the remix?? his work is top notch. well hopefully they have taken the time to make this Diamond shine like it should, and make it worth all these dollars im shelling out for all these releases at once. Christmas in September?
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Luckily for me the pre-orders are good through September 7th. I wonder whether this box set is going to be a severely limited press run based upon the initial orders (which could be much, much, much lower than the sales of the Winterland and Fillmore boxes, due to the lack of a bonus disc to hype early sales). I'm going to get the Hampton set, that's for certain. As for the Road Trips, though, since those don't go out of print and since there's no bonus disc, I can hold off on THAT $24 price long enough to pick it up around Christmas--after all, there's no rush and no real possibility of it being taken off the sales list here. For those who can't afford it here, the lower quality 2-track SBDs and even a couple of multi-source matrix recordings will still be out on etree and Archive, probably up to September 7th; however, once these are out in "legit" releases, the policy at both of those sites is to permanently remove ALL soundboard recordings of shows that have been officially released by the Dead, after which only audience microphone recordings would be officially permitted to circulate. I just hope that when MY wooden cigar box with the Hampton shows arrives that it is undamaged and complete, especially if this release disappears from the store after the initial print run is gone.
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As the guy who suggested to those complaining about the release, era, year and the price, and that perhaps they'd be better of purchasing a Lady Gaga or Nickleback download, I'll inform the guy that I'm neither rich or have ever collected a taxpayer bailout (or any govt check of any type besides tax returns). I'm self-employed, work my tail off and will further suggest to that the person refering to other persons who actually have jobs as being "Rich Pigs", that if the price of any entertainment related product is an issue to you, such as a box set release of two of the greatest shows by one of the worlds greatest bands, then perhaps your priorities are askew. The time and effort to complain about this, or any GD release might be better spent here - http://www.ladygaga.com/theremix/ Who knows, you may be able to find some freebies there...... Meanwhile To quote Frank Zappa (another one of the world greatest musicians) - "free is when you don't have to pay for nothing or do nothing we want to be free, free as the wind" ;)
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...and I must be a rich pig 'cause I'm ordering it. Capitalism is a bitch. Now, how about a new Pure Jerry release? Blair? Anyone?
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Why when there is a new CD release we have comment pages that go on and on, but no comment pages are provided for the new vinyl box set? Keep up the good work and I can't wait to get the new vinyl box set.