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    When our previous topic hit the 1,000-response mark, sleazy behavior by politicians was eliciting a certain amount of non-astonishment.

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  • johnman
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    Right on
    Brother Badger....
  • cosmicbadger
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    good discussion
    It has indeed been an illuminating and civilized discussion about the gun thing. It occurs to me that we are seeing two mirrored solutions to the same problem. If you were shut in a big barn with a random bunch of strangers you could argue that there were two ideal options for everyone getting along without too much trouble...either (1) everyone has a gun or (2) no-one has a gun. I can see that option 1 might make some sense if that is how your culture has developed, but personally I would always choose and work towards option 2 (much less stressful). But I can see that the more guns that are in that barn, the harder it is for folk to choose option 1. I suppose many of us are lucky enough to live in societies where we are able to have a say in the matter, and to live (or die) with the consequences of our choices. But I will always remain an option 2 guy.
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    Kama Sutra virus dupes with sexy promise
    SAN FRANCISCO - SOPHOS computer security firm on Friday warned that hackers are spreading a nasty computer virus with a file promising a PowerPoint presentation of sexual positions from the Kama Sutra. 'Be careful what you do with that mouse,' Mr Graham Cluley of Sophos said in an online post. 'When you click on the file you do get to see a real PowerPoint presentation, but in the background a backdoor Trojan called Troj/Bckdr-RFM is installed which allows hackers to gain remote access to your computer.' Once a computer is infected with the malicious software, the hacker can steal personal information and spy on users' activities or use the machine for nefarious deeds such as sending spam or attacking websites. In scant consolation, the booby-trapped file did present slides of more than a half dozen lovemaking techniques illustrated from the ancient Indian text, according to Mr Cluley. -- AFP
  • johnman
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    And still......
    Innocent lives were lost, an elected representative that has the respect of both parties was seriously injured, responsible gun owners are vilified, a background check system didn't work....there are NO winners here.......
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    The deal with the Swiss is
    Once they have served in the military (and I may be mistaken, but I think all males are required to do a coupla years service) they maintain the weapon they are issued. I recently saw a short news blurb/documentary kinda thing on this. Shooting sports are very big there, with whole families involved, from granny down to the older children. The two or three people they interviewed had their weapons, and their father's and grandfather's. I believe they created the Biathlon which entails cross country skiing and marksmanship skills and it is an Olympic event. The Swiss seem to be a pretty calm bunch, too....haven't heard about any nutcases there shooting up McDonalds or anything, that I am aware of. I expect it's all about respect, and being raised with respect..... Here's to more respectful and rational discussions...and ALOT more good music!!!
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    Well, cheers to us all
    One big reason I like hanging here is because we are on the side of respectful discourse, in spite of differing opinions...much too rare in the harsh world of the internet, and much more unfortunately, the "real" world as well. Plus the music, of course. Cookies too, though I'm hankering for cake right about now. Back to quoting Dylan (from my post on "what is a Deadhead") We always did feel the same, we just saw it from a different point of view...
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    on the well-regulated militia issue
    some time back, a friend of mine moved to Switzerland, where, apparently, each householder is required to keep a shotgun in good order for times of civic need. This has figured prominently in one or two movies as I recall. I'd be curious how it plays out in real life, as I suspect that even now there are few places more peaceable than Switzerland.
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    I like too
    these well thought out and politely stated discussion points. Dean's especially! Love you too Johnman, but I agree with gratefuldean :) About your Iraq nuke question (good one btw) the US is very big on "do as I say, not as I do" with regards to foreign policy. That would be my answer to that question. ********************************** I am not young enough to know everything. Oscar Wilde
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    Cheers Johnman
    I'll drink a beer (well tonight) with ya and make a toast towards no more blood shed **clink**. Oh and wash it down with a little smokie tokie! Which may very well lead to some cookies =) Happy MLK weekend to everyone! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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    So speaking of govt mistrust
    I'm wondering now that I've publically (though facetiously and specifically to make a point) expressed my belief that I've got a right to a nuke (I think I can fit one in my garage if I move a car out)...has some secret gov't internet-spying keyword search now slid me into a "watch, potential terrorist" category? Another shudder. If I get strip-searched the next time I go through security in an airport, I guess I'll know. And I'm with you on who's in jail and who's not thought. If you weren't on the other side of the country, I'd stop on by to hoist a couple and continue the conversation. Happy Friday!
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When our previous topic hit the 1,000-response mark, sleazy behavior by politicians was eliciting a certain amount of non-astonishment.
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have been advocates of washing for quite some time.....or so I have read...
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This is the news of the weird for inquiring minds who happen to care. Beware.....
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now that WOULD be news alright! ********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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Point Lay, Alaska Walruses are massing on the beach of the Chuchuki Sea as the winter sun sets for some months. What is wrong with that picture? There ought to ice, their natural habitat, as well as snow on the ground. This is so sad, whatever the causes, and we really don't have to think very hard to come up with an answer. You can sort of see the game plan for all life on Earth -- a desperate struggle to adapt to new conditions that is, overwhelmingly, due to fail. I get the feeling there will at some point be a massive grid failure bringing traffic to a screeching halt up and down the East and West Coasts with people hopelessly trying to make their I-Phones work. Koyannasqatsi??
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Jerrys last house up for sale for 4 million,solar heated pool and oprganic garden anyone interested?
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Not sure eating gold is a good idea even for mimers now washing your penis with gold? i think those flying monkeys have gold penises
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with gold penises-now you know why they are so rare!!!!!!!! Mimers are the main culprits in flying monkey trapping!********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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Thats how the mimers ended up down the mine,trying to trap the flying monkeys so they can steal there gold penises!!!!!!
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What did The Sun run with, "Woman fingers head of lettuce in £60 blag?" Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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Am just back from having a needle stuck into my elbow. 15 ml of an interesting-colored orange puss were drawn out of it. The doc was poking my bone with the needle, which felt so grate I swooned, and then he shot cortisone in where the fluid had been. Haven't had that much fun in a long time-BUT now I have a really pretty spring green bandage on my arm!********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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Good headline Pid showing admirable cultural awareness! the headline from the Guardian however might be 'Brain Salad Surgery?'
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ow ow ow!
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The 0-2 49'rs stumble into KC this weekend. What do you think will happen? Are the Giants grabbing everyones attention, as they race toward the playoffs? Keep a close eye on those pesky Rockies and the Padres.
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Hampshire police have now said this a software problem but have had no response from the efit of a man with a lettuce on his head maybe hes a vegatarian lady gaga impersonator
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ouch tiger hope you is ok does the spring green bandage look like a lettuce ?
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not quite-it looks more like a string bean on my arm than a lettuce. Or the top of a green onion! :-D And am feeling alot better, thanks! Seems as if the flu symptoms more or less left with the puss!********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u95EjB03cV8&feature=player_embedded he is talking about restrictions on "spiced" or "seasoned" or "herbed" -not sure of the direct translation of gewürtz cuz it could be any of those 3. And to avoid confusion he is NOT speaking German, but Swiss. ********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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Sorry to hear about the elbow TL - or maybe I should say I'm glad if you're feeling better with the therapy which (to me) sounds pretty scary because I hate needles of any king. Sounds similar to what they want to do to my back but I won't let the docs near me. Hey to everyone else: Pid, johnman, marye, cb... hope all is well.
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The Swiss speak German, French, Italian and Swiss -- as far as I know, maybe our European heads no better than I. Geneva is a romantic place where they speak a French dialect.
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Last night, full moon coinciding with the fall equinox. And Jupiter putting on a little show of its own as well. Both were staring me in the face for my drive to work this morning. And Dylan singing "Don't the moon look good mama, shining through the trees" was about the last thing I heard pulling into the parking lot. Good, indeed. That Swiss German ain't the same as the German German (not that there's just one of those, either). Or so the Swiss and Germans that I know have told me countless times...kind of all sounds the same to me, I have to admit. I once traveled to Switzerland and Germany with a guy who worked for a Swiss company. He was in Switzerland at least 3 months out of every year, never learned to speak German (either kind). He had his own twist on the standard American practice when trying to communicate with someone who doesn't speak English: not only did he speak English slowly and loudly, he did it with this comical German accent, as if THAT would somehow make English comprehensible to a German who didn't understand English. He sounded like Sgt Schultz from Hogan's Heroes. Everytime he did it, I tried to pretend we weren't together. VERY embarrassing!
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:-D nice to see you posting. Oof re:the needle in your back!! The Swiss speak French, Italian, Rumansh (or something like that it's called) and a very strange dialect of German that the Swiss also call Switzerdeutsch. Two Swiss people speaking to each other in their dialect is basically incomprehensible to people from Germany-different pronunciation and some different words and different usage of common words. So was a half-joke really that I said that guy was speaking Swiss. He was speaking High German with a hefty Swiss accent. Austrians have a hefty dialect too, but are much more understandable for people from Germany. ********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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when I was taking German in college one of my classmates spoke Switzerdeutsch as his family language and much comedy ensued.
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Those who learn High German do find Switzerdeutch to be extremely funny! :)********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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Dutch just sounds like English that's a little off, as it were... Somewhere on YouTube there's a clip someone sent me of some remarkable feat of wildlife achievement, and in the background a tour guide is commenting madly in Afrikaans. It drives me crazy because all the sounds are right and I don't actually understand a word!
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I can most likely translate it for you marye-if you want to dig out the clip and send me the link.I can't speak Dutch-but as you said from speaking German and English I understand Dutch well enough to follow the news on the radio-so could give it a shot with Afrikaans ********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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ah speek murkin end floont gibberish...
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I see the 49'rs are favored by 2 as visitors in KC this weekend. Have fun all you folks sitting on rocks in Morrison CO this weekend. I'll await the day a show is booked in eastern Kansas or western Missouri: it sure has been long enough.
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They are not just in Iowa. 36 yrs ago I had a buddy who got a job building cages at their egg farm in Turner, ME. He lasted about 2 weeks in the job, it was that bad...the stuff he told me turned me off eggs for years until I started buying from farmers that I knew. So a lifetime later, they're still pulling the same crap (literally and figuratively from the sounds of it)...check out one of THOSE places if you want to get turned off the idea of factory farms.
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I was off factory farming after watching a programme about chickens and eggs years ago i was disgusted and moved to tears.Alot of this has to do with major supermarkets and what they think the customer wants.Everyday tons of veg and fruit are thrown away because they are the wrong size or dont look good on the eye its criminal.I boycotted supermarkets many moons ago and will not use them.I grow my own veg and buy my other groceries from a local source. all the years combine......
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My oh my it's neck to neck in the NL West. Concurrent with Furthur is the crucial baseball 3-game series at Coors Field, tonite thru Sunday. The Rockies have just been swept by Arizona and are on a 5 game losing streak. Will Bob and Phil have time to do the National Anthem before any of the games?
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Well, it kind of seems tit for tat in our media-driven society that has pathetically litte to do with substance that John Daily and Steven Colbert will be slugging it out a few days before election day a la the Palin/Beck spectacle on the Lincoln Memorial. If we wern't the most powewrful country in the world it wouls almost be funny. As it is, it is psycho-pathetic drama with a twist of dementia,;
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The book is called Operation Dark Heart by a former member of an elite clandestine unit called (no kidding) The Jedi Knights. He claims that the Taliban was on the verge of being destroyed until the military was told to ease off on Pakistan. He also, supposedly, id'd hijack-bomber Muhammed Atta. If there is one way to make people buy a book it is to ban it
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Obviously, if the Taliban were destroyed, we would have to bring everyone home.....and someone would stop making an obscene amount of money from explosives, and such....not to mention support and facilities for all the troops in country.......
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I always wonder just what it is the military and civilian leadership knows that they don't want us to know?? That 99% of wars are fought for profit? That we have to be scared shitless perpetually by people who are even more scared of us? That we can't share the limited resources on this planet because the rich couldn't stay perpetually rich? I'm not angry anymore, nor disgruntled, but I do take the path of passive resistance with every ounce of my being. That would be resistance to any further waste of scarce resources.
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greenpeace have gave up due to court order so there ya go bit disappointed myself.They have sent in swimmers to stop the ship from moving and thats it.Happy monday morning all.
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BuT AT LEAST THEY ARE TRYING!!! Lets fund Greenpeace and Sea Shepherd the way we fund the military.
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...and e-mail and monitor every money transfer of any size leaving or coming into the country.Let's all send a penny to Tonga (or the country of your choice) when this thing passes. And lately, when Obama opens his mouth to proclaim something, AG Holder make it come true.
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The Security Council (I think it was them) has already been insisting that the data on each and every money transfer taking place in Europe is sent over to the States. This goes back to BEFORE Obama, the US. leaning on the European Parliamant to turn over this data, because it will help them catch terrorists. So ever time I wire my rent here, Uncle Sam will know it over there?? PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT!!!********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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...Business Socks Option 22 is worth the price of admission, alone, up there at Capon Bridge.Don't ferget yer woolens!
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They're sortring by SS#.. .Knock, knock,' Ahh, Mr. Man? Mr. John Mann? Mebbe, you got cookies? We'd like to know about these transactions wired from your bank. The fuck you say? To the Phillipines for 1.55 million pesos Oh, that all? Jus' my monthly shipment of San Miqguel!
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I could use a case or 2 of San Magoo...and pint or 3 of Tanduay E.S.Q. rum (Extra Special Quality!!)