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Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.
Sorry I am gullible! =)
Plus I can never tell if people are kidding or not over email. I should have learned by now though since I am a world-class smart ass!
"The dire wolf collects his due while the boys sing round the fire"
anyone out there
have the 9-03-1972 folsom field show? i have been looking for a quality copy of this. if any one could help it is gratefully appreciated
9/3/72
Check sbd new hanno 20168 on archive and let me know if the sound is any good. I have that source but haven't converted it, assuming it is the same as my WAV source, which I grade as AUD C for set 1 and SBD B/B+ for set 2, which means it is just about unlistenable. Also maustin, if you want, you can figure out which Sept-Nov 72 have not been vined, or which ones died long ago, and I can do a supplemental fall 72 vine. I have most of the SBDs at the very least. I know one of the Waterbury shows wasn't on the original Sept 72 vine. Not sure which one, 9/23 or 9/24. Also, it may not have included the full 9/16/72 show. I have sbd.cotsman.9247 (about half the show AUD, half SBD) for that one. You can be first if you want to do this. I don't know how long the Oct and Nov 72 vines lasted.
bluegrass
There has been some srting cheese vined here in the past , In fact there is some video that was in the rothburry vine.
Not sure if any of it is still alive though.
Speeking of lost or missing vines. Anyone know if
The garcia 80 vine is still with us ? I put a lot of work in that one
Hope it is still alive.
" Life is`nt about running from the storm, it`s about learning to dance in the rain "
9/3/72
9/3/72 is not on the September 72 vine as presently constituted. Good intentions pave the way to hell, or to varying degrees of confusion. I gave a partial re-seed of the 9/72 vine when it died, using CDRs only. The shows are listed in my post on that vine. 9/3 was not included, but both Waterbury shows were. I believe 9/16 was complete, but much was an audience recording. The Dark Star was a good soundboard.
If a new September vine is to be attempted, I can contribute if it helps.
Steve
INFO FOR 5/5/77 New Haven, CT.
Somestimes vines overlap, and that can be a good thing. I just stumbled on something this weekend while listening to my copy of 5/5/77 New Haven, CT. This was vined on a CDR in the "1977-05-05 May 1977 East Coast Vine" and on a DVD (flac) in the "1977 Lossless Vine: Part 2."
I got both vines but I was only listening to the CDR copy from the 'East Coast Vine." Set 1 Tenn Jed had a 4 second drop-out dead air at the 1 minute mark (rich man step on my poor head..), and I think I heard another drop-out later in the song. Bertha had a minor pop glitch towards the middle-end of the song. I had my cell phone laying next to this CDR for a short time, and I thought the magnetic field had erased portions of the song. I don't think so.
I went and checked the betty board version on the flac DVD "1977 Lossless Vine: Part 2." There were 4 DVDs, and this show in on DVD#1. Wow! This is a better source, and there is no drop-out in Tenn Jed. Tenn Jed is complete on this source. So I ditched the other CDRs and re-burned the betty board source.
You might wanna check if you want the best source.
Quality Folsom field 9/3/72
We may never see a complete quality recording of this 3 set afternoon on 9/3/72. Owsley was running the board, I believe. First set indeed is a low quality audience with stops between songs.2nd set Bertha is missing a channel (vocals) for awhile. 3rd set seems to be the only set of the show with a decent recording. Check Dicks Picks 36 for a taste! I do have the complete show as described above with multi-sourced/multi-generational history. Did One More Saturday Night end this show?
Ted- better check this out
I think some hippie guy replaced your picture with his.
If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite.
William Blake
all that is and was and ever will be
I love that William Blake quote.
(sorry if i'm slow to navigate the technology here. i'd honestly rather be writing cursive and sharing that. OK that's the new topic -- hands -- things of beauty created by HANDS. lately lots of virtual art/realities have been created in cyberspace, but if/when that shuts down, will people still be able to weave, knit, sew, sow, reap, harvest and ferment their own food, clothes? oh yeah, make and play musical instruments?)
What do you do when you're NOT on the internet? With your hands? To get into flow? To make yourself happy? To create beauty?
Vineyard Management
Having worked in the industry for a while, I would say that you really need to understand your site and what it wants to grow.
If dead.net
Wants to hire me full time, I'd gladly be the monitor here =) Believe me, it would be a full time job. I think there is a group of us that do a pretty good job of keeping the vineyard running as best we can.
"The dire wolf collects his due while the boys sing round the fire"
Control Of the Vineyard
@ Freeworld: Thanks for the advice, but, we're just a bunch of hippies doing the best we can. If everybody who came into the Vineyard had a good heart (like the vast majority of us) and didn't just disappear with a boatload of vines, it would work just fine. Unfortunately, there has been a recent influx of selfish folks that have caused problems. I for one wouldn't want too much structure.
Peace,
"That path is for, your steps alone."
jgb 76
Received 10 DVDs full of JGB 76 this week. I'm definitely not gonna vine the whole thing, but I am willing to do 1 DVD + with other's help WAV CD's, total of 5 or 6 shows at a time. I would only vine the shows I think are very good shows or better and of A- or better sound quality. So I have to listen to them first. But I am willing to vine them as I go, and don't have to listen to the entire year before starting the first vine. I would try not to include shows that have already been vined (I'm not converting and listening to shows I already have in A/A- sound quality). Post here if there is interest.
Also, I posted in one of the Pink Floyd vine threads about a possible PF part 3 vine. I think 1 person expressed interest. Are others interested? It would be 1 DVD with WAV files too. I have a bunch of GREAT earlier stuff (post-Syd but pre-Dark Side), plus more good Animals and Wall era.
'76 Jerry & Floyd
What's not to love here? Bring 'em on, hermano.
" Where does the time go? "
Would love some JGB 76 shows!!!!!!!!!!!
Keep a song in your heart.
I went to the site
Keep a song in your heart. This morning to check out the shows no more.
JGB 76 & PF
Sounds like people are interested in both. I will work on the PF this weekend, and the JGB once I listen to enough shows that I see fit to include. So far I have listened to 1/9, 1/27, 1/28 and 2/13, and only 1/27 will be included. 1/9 is interesting as James Booker rather than Keith is on keys, but the SBD is pretty hissy and definitely hampers the enjoyment.
From Bindu to Ojas
My family and I are back from our summer walkabout. Our trek across the contry was beautiful. I returned to find two burnt out computers. I am using parts from both to write this now. I am glad to be back home, and have missed all my friends in the Vineyard. I hope everyone here is doing well also.
my thoughts on '78
In case this helps jackstrawfromcolorado determine which shows from 78 to vine, here are my thoughts regarding the first part of the year, through May 78. I have listened to everything and graded all but a handful of shows (and the shows I have not graded (1/6, 7, 8, 18) have already been vined).
I grade the following shows as GREAT (5 out of 5 stars): 1/13, 1/22, 1/31 and 4/16. All of these shows have been vined. The 4/16 vine is still flourishing, but I am not sure about the other 3 shows. 1/13 and 1/31 I vined on the 78 six pack vine I believe. I have fine with those being revined.
I grade the following shows as VERY GOOD (4 out of 5 stars): 1/10, 1/11, 1/17, 2/1, 4/10, 4/11, 4/12, 4/14, 5/5, 5/6, 5/7 & 5/14. Of these, 1/17, 4/14, 5/5, 5/6 and 5/14 have not been vined, AND as I recall 5/7 was only vined as an AUD, and there is a nice SBD out there, which I would definitely include on a vine.
So, I think those 5 VERY GOOD unvined shows, plus the SBD of 5/7, would make a pretty nice vine. My source for 1/17 was cotsman.4555, for 4/14 miller.83717, for 5/5 and 5/6 the glassberg.motb, and for 5/14 sony.vernon.7639. If you wanted to revine the GREAT shows, that would be a sweet vine too.
Just my thoughts, no offense will be taken if you select other shows and go another route. Thanks!
Excellent! Thanks Derek!
I will work on some 78 vines after the Red Rocks craziness this weekend. Really looking forward to starting these, like dstache said there are some scorcher shows in 78.
"The dire wolf collects his due while the boys sing round the fire"
hard drive crashed
hey viners, my computer went south and I have lost much of my data and have had no way to store data. Am working on fixing this now. Vines that are in my name are not lost, but stalled, hope to get things flowing early next week and stalled vines back in the mail as soon as I download the data from the vines.
If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite.
William Blake
please help me!!
Hi , if anyone sees this i've been looking for this show forever new orleans 1-31-70 In like flac format! If someone out there can send by email i would be very thankful!! my email is surfcity222@yahoo.com thanks so much!!
Garseeya
That show was also part of what I at least consider to be one of the "original vines" here. It might be called New Orleans '71. Yamadog started that one 3 yrs ago or so. That was back when I used WMP to burn shows, and couldn't eliminate pauses btwn tracks, so on my copy there are 5 seconds of silence btwn tracks.
gd70-01-31
I have this show as .shn.... I have PMed Garseeya
Raymond
For Show Collectors!!
An excellent little vid!
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7217017/
Raymond
I need more shows
Raymond, have been laughing away at that one too. One of my friends wrote me "This one is almost too real to be funny!"
Once again, here it is.
http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7217017/
If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite.
William Blake
Ha Ha great one
Perfect!
"You can't go back and you can't stand still"
for show collectors
Not a youtube or clip guy usually, but that is brilliant!
I Need More Shows Video
(Sarcasm alert) What was so funny about that? Doesn't everybody act that way?Seriously, thanks for the post Raymond, loved it.
"That path is for, your steps alone."
I need more shows clip
Anyone know whether it is true that new Miller SBDs from 72 and new SBDs from 81 are becoming available? I checked my notes on 6/22/73 and I only graded the show as Good, with D4 being Very Good (Other One, Jam are hot). I also noted that Bird Song and China Cat were especially good. Maybe I need to give the show another spin. I'm not quite up to 1000 shows yet, but am inching closer, thanks to everyone here!
I need more shows!!!
I think I had this exact conversation with my lovely wife ohh about a month ago =) =) And about 3 months before that =) =)
I will say he is getting ripped off spending $439 on a hard drive, he should check out Sams Club =) =)
"The dire wolf collects his due while the boys sing round the fire"
Just a thought....
Just a thought that I'm tossing around here for a new vine. This vine would be from various artists recorded at Ebbet's Field in Denver between '73 and '74. If someone could school me in how to convert .wav files to flac I'd do it that way. If not it would be .wav. This vine would included artists such as Muddy Waters w/ B.B. King, Bob Seger, Brewer & Shipley, The Ozark Mountian Daredevils, The Outlaws and Howlin' Wolf. I do have more shows from this venue, but these are the better of the lot. Any and all feedback is helpful...........
need more shows..
could not stop laughing even my wife thought it was funny.. like jstraw we have that conversation about every couple of months.
Lopezz's continuing computer problems
This doesn't have anything to do with vines, but I know most of you have had some experience with drives, computer problems, external drives ect. My most recent problem involves a 2 terabyte external hard drive (a WD my book essential). I was actively moving files from it to a laptop when the laptop crashed. When I got the laptop back on I found that the hard drive was locked. This is a feature of the drive that I have never used, so I don't have any password set up. I went to the WD website and forums and it is a glitch that happens only if the drive loses power while it is moving files. Unfortunately they haven't been able to find a solution, they have known about it for two years. I can always reformat the drive so it's not trash, but it has Some of my Garcia, Dead, 600 gigs of Beatles and about the same of Pink Floyd. Right now I have been trying some data recovery software with out any luck. I did read on one guys blog who had this happen how he took the drive apart with a screw driver and pluged it into his computer. Don't really want to do that though. Also someone suggested I put the hard drive in the freezer for 24 hours, plug it in and I will have a few minutes to transfer files before the write protect kicks back in (then put it back into freezer for 24 hrs). If anyone has ever had anything like this happen I could really use your help. I am not in any hurry, and am willing to try just about software, hacking trick before I take a screwdriver to it. Any way thanks for reading, and any help is appreciated. Thanks
Robert
I think I've had
Every computer problem known to man but never any issues with external HD's. I have a handful of HD's so I am interested in any potential solutions to this kind of problem because I just know it will happen to me eventually. Good luck Lopezz, let me know if I can help replace any of your shows if it comes down to that.. dang that sucks!
"The dire wolf collects his due while the boys sing round the fire"
Just let us know
Lopezz, if you end up unable to repair/recover your HD the vineyard stands poised to help out. I know you've sent me a great deal of music over the last 2 years and I will help replace whatever I can.
"when life looks like easy street, there is danger at your door"