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    When our previous topic hit the 1,000-response mark, sleazy behavior by politicians was eliciting a certain amount of non-astonishment.

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    Gosh, Gonzo....
    Must you insist on making sense???..............can i have some of that creamcheese...smeared on a cookie?
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    Cogent, GDean...
    However it seems to be corporations who are leading the governments around by the nose. One needs to only look at the revolving door between each regulator and the industry they regulate as well as the lobbyists. The system works with vicious effectiveness. Suzy Creamcheese! Whats got into me today?
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    Herman Goering: Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.
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    Absolutely brilliant!
    I read your statement 4 times, Gonzo!! I find it a truly terriffic piece and couldn't agree with you more.********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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    The Politics of Fear
    If there is a way to get people in line and have them do what you want them to do it is Fear. Fear is being used as a weapon against the American people in the "War on Terror". In order for us not to question the billions upon billions of dollars being spent on the military we have been goaded into fearing all Muslims when in fact it is a small minority who oppose the US. By attacking the Muslim countries of Iraq and Afghanistan we have created thousands and thousands of suicide bombers where there were very few to start with. We have created the thing we fear most and thus have been forced to spend money for useless and unnecessary things that do not improve our society. The question must be asked: Who profits from this? The private contractors and arms and munition makers who make up the military-industrial complex. In order to line their pockets we have to made to be scared shitless of every Muslim. If not the Muslims then the Russians. If not the Russians then some other country or race or religion. Being kept in a state of fear is the name of the game they are playing and have been playing for some time. They are quite good at it. There are other interests involved also. Those interests have to do with corporations who wish to do business freely wherever they please and brook no opposition or competition. Therefore they find ways to manipulate countries to oppose their "enemies" . So many suffer so very few can profit greatly. We must come together as human beings and resist control by corporations and masters of war. Of course, where our enemies are real we must thrust the spear forward. Our current state of evolution does not allow for pure nonviolence. However, to be perpetually afraid by manipulation so that we create new and better spears forever is a monstrous sin against our higher nature.
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    Burning bibles is wrong dosnt matter if its the old teastament or the qaran it aint gonna help at all.The gentleman in question has the right to do this if he wants just dont involve me.We cannot persucate all muslims on the actions of a small minority they have the right to pray at there temple where ever it maybe.1 2 3 what are we fighting for!!!!
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    AND, by the way,
    I also agree that it is insensitive and in poor taste to burn anybody's holy books. I wish this intolerant person would give up his ill-advised idea but I 100% support his right to do it.
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    Have to disagree Mary
    Here we are agreeing that Muslims have the right to build a mosque near ground zero because it is their right -- their right as an American... Yet, when we are talking about our right as Americans to free speech you feel that right should be abridged if it offends people in a foreign country. The people it offends are already fanatics and trying as hard as possible to kill to American soldiers. I am not prepared to give up my rights in this country because a bunch of fanatics in a foreign country don't like our right to free speech. Again, it brings up the question of what exactly it is we are fighting for over there...
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    yeah!
    what johnman said!
  • johnman
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    Whwn we stoop to
    things like burning books....we are no better than those we oppose, we are BETTER than that!!
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When our previous topic hit the 1,000-response mark, sleazy behavior by politicians was eliciting a certain amount of non-astonishment.
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have been advocates of washing for quite some time.....or so I have read...
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This is the news of the weird for inquiring minds who happen to care. Beware.....
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now that WOULD be news alright! ********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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Point Lay, Alaska Walruses are massing on the beach of the Chuchuki Sea as the winter sun sets for some months. What is wrong with that picture? There ought to ice, their natural habitat, as well as snow on the ground. This is so sad, whatever the causes, and we really don't have to think very hard to come up with an answer. You can sort of see the game plan for all life on Earth -- a desperate struggle to adapt to new conditions that is, overwhelmingly, due to fail. I get the feeling there will at some point be a massive grid failure bringing traffic to a screeching halt up and down the East and West Coasts with people hopelessly trying to make their I-Phones work. Koyannasqatsi??
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Jerrys last house up for sale for 4 million,solar heated pool and oprganic garden anyone interested?
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Not sure eating gold is a good idea even for mimers now washing your penis with gold? i think those flying monkeys have gold penises
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with gold penises-now you know why they are so rare!!!!!!!! Mimers are the main culprits in flying monkey trapping!********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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Thats how the mimers ended up down the mine,trying to trap the flying monkeys so they can steal there gold penises!!!!!!
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What did The Sun run with, "Woman fingers head of lettuce in £60 blag?" Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.
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Am just back from having a needle stuck into my elbow. 15 ml of an interesting-colored orange puss were drawn out of it. The doc was poking my bone with the needle, which felt so grate I swooned, and then he shot cortisone in where the fluid had been. Haven't had that much fun in a long time-BUT now I have a really pretty spring green bandage on my arm!********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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Good headline Pid showing admirable cultural awareness! the headline from the Guardian however might be 'Brain Salad Surgery?'
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ow ow ow!
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The 0-2 49'rs stumble into KC this weekend. What do you think will happen? Are the Giants grabbing everyones attention, as they race toward the playoffs? Keep a close eye on those pesky Rockies and the Padres.
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Hampshire police have now said this a software problem but have had no response from the efit of a man with a lettuce on his head maybe hes a vegatarian lady gaga impersonator
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ouch tiger hope you is ok does the spring green bandage look like a lettuce ?
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not quite-it looks more like a string bean on my arm than a lettuce. Or the top of a green onion! :-D And am feeling alot better, thanks! Seems as if the flu symptoms more or less left with the puss!********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u95EjB03cV8&feature=player_embedded he is talking about restrictions on "spiced" or "seasoned" or "herbed" -not sure of the direct translation of gewürtz cuz it could be any of those 3. And to avoid confusion he is NOT speaking German, but Swiss. ********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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Sorry to hear about the elbow TL - or maybe I should say I'm glad if you're feeling better with the therapy which (to me) sounds pretty scary because I hate needles of any king. Sounds similar to what they want to do to my back but I won't let the docs near me. Hey to everyone else: Pid, johnman, marye, cb... hope all is well.
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The Swiss speak German, French, Italian and Swiss -- as far as I know, maybe our European heads no better than I. Geneva is a romantic place where they speak a French dialect.
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Last night, full moon coinciding with the fall equinox. And Jupiter putting on a little show of its own as well. Both were staring me in the face for my drive to work this morning. And Dylan singing "Don't the moon look good mama, shining through the trees" was about the last thing I heard pulling into the parking lot. Good, indeed. That Swiss German ain't the same as the German German (not that there's just one of those, either). Or so the Swiss and Germans that I know have told me countless times...kind of all sounds the same to me, I have to admit. I once traveled to Switzerland and Germany with a guy who worked for a Swiss company. He was in Switzerland at least 3 months out of every year, never learned to speak German (either kind). He had his own twist on the standard American practice when trying to communicate with someone who doesn't speak English: not only did he speak English slowly and loudly, he did it with this comical German accent, as if THAT would somehow make English comprehensible to a German who didn't understand English. He sounded like Sgt Schultz from Hogan's Heroes. Everytime he did it, I tried to pretend we weren't together. VERY embarrassing!
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:-D nice to see you posting. Oof re:the needle in your back!! The Swiss speak French, Italian, Rumansh (or something like that it's called) and a very strange dialect of German that the Swiss also call Switzerdeutsch. Two Swiss people speaking to each other in their dialect is basically incomprehensible to people from Germany-different pronunciation and some different words and different usage of common words. So was a half-joke really that I said that guy was speaking Swiss. He was speaking High German with a hefty Swiss accent. Austrians have a hefty dialect too, but are much more understandable for people from Germany. ********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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when I was taking German in college one of my classmates spoke Switzerdeutsch as his family language and much comedy ensued.
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Those who learn High German do find Switzerdeutch to be extremely funny! :)********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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Dutch just sounds like English that's a little off, as it were... Somewhere on YouTube there's a clip someone sent me of some remarkable feat of wildlife achievement, and in the background a tour guide is commenting madly in Afrikaans. It drives me crazy because all the sounds are right and I don't actually understand a word!
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I can most likely translate it for you marye-if you want to dig out the clip and send me the link.I can't speak Dutch-but as you said from speaking German and English I understand Dutch well enough to follow the news on the radio-so could give it a shot with Afrikaans ********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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ah speek murkin end floont gibberish...
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I see the 49'rs are favored by 2 as visitors in KC this weekend. Have fun all you folks sitting on rocks in Morrison CO this weekend. I'll await the day a show is booked in eastern Kansas or western Missouri: it sure has been long enough.
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They are not just in Iowa. 36 yrs ago I had a buddy who got a job building cages at their egg farm in Turner, ME. He lasted about 2 weeks in the job, it was that bad...the stuff he told me turned me off eggs for years until I started buying from farmers that I knew. So a lifetime later, they're still pulling the same crap (literally and figuratively from the sounds of it)...check out one of THOSE places if you want to get turned off the idea of factory farms.
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I was off factory farming after watching a programme about chickens and eggs years ago i was disgusted and moved to tears.Alot of this has to do with major supermarkets and what they think the customer wants.Everyday tons of veg and fruit are thrown away because they are the wrong size or dont look good on the eye its criminal.I boycotted supermarkets many moons ago and will not use them.I grow my own veg and buy my other groceries from a local source. all the years combine......
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My oh my it's neck to neck in the NL West. Concurrent with Furthur is the crucial baseball 3-game series at Coors Field, tonite thru Sunday. The Rockies have just been swept by Arizona and are on a 5 game losing streak. Will Bob and Phil have time to do the National Anthem before any of the games?
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Well, it kind of seems tit for tat in our media-driven society that has pathetically litte to do with substance that John Daily and Steven Colbert will be slugging it out a few days before election day a la the Palin/Beck spectacle on the Lincoln Memorial. If we wern't the most powewrful country in the world it wouls almost be funny. As it is, it is psycho-pathetic drama with a twist of dementia,;
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The book is called Operation Dark Heart by a former member of an elite clandestine unit called (no kidding) The Jedi Knights. He claims that the Taliban was on the verge of being destroyed until the military was told to ease off on Pakistan. He also, supposedly, id'd hijack-bomber Muhammed Atta. If there is one way to make people buy a book it is to ban it
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Obviously, if the Taliban were destroyed, we would have to bring everyone home.....and someone would stop making an obscene amount of money from explosives, and such....not to mention support and facilities for all the troops in country.......
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I always wonder just what it is the military and civilian leadership knows that they don't want us to know?? That 99% of wars are fought for profit? That we have to be scared shitless perpetually by people who are even more scared of us? That we can't share the limited resources on this planet because the rich couldn't stay perpetually rich? I'm not angry anymore, nor disgruntled, but I do take the path of passive resistance with every ounce of my being. That would be resistance to any further waste of scarce resources.
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greenpeace have gave up due to court order so there ya go bit disappointed myself.They have sent in swimmers to stop the ship from moving and thats it.Happy monday morning all.
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BuT AT LEAST THEY ARE TRYING!!! Lets fund Greenpeace and Sea Shepherd the way we fund the military.
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...and e-mail and monitor every money transfer of any size leaving or coming into the country.Let's all send a penny to Tonga (or the country of your choice) when this thing passes. And lately, when Obama opens his mouth to proclaim something, AG Holder make it come true.
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The Security Council (I think it was them) has already been insisting that the data on each and every money transfer taking place in Europe is sent over to the States. This goes back to BEFORE Obama, the US. leaning on the European Parliamant to turn over this data, because it will help them catch terrorists. So ever time I wire my rent here, Uncle Sam will know it over there?? PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT!!!********************************** By trying we can easily learn to endure adversity -- another man's I mean. Mark Twain
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...Business Socks Option 22 is worth the price of admission, alone, up there at Capon Bridge.Don't ferget yer woolens!
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They're sortring by SS#.. .Knock, knock,' Ahh, Mr. Man? Mr. John Mann? Mebbe, you got cookies? We'd like to know about these transactions wired from your bank. The fuck you say? To the Phillipines for 1.55 million pesos Oh, that all? Jus' my monthly shipment of San Miqguel!
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I could use a case or 2 of San Magoo...and pint or 3 of Tanduay E.S.Q. rum (Extra Special Quality!!)