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    "We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

    We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

    DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

    *Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

    Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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  • Thin
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    Boston area Saunders/Garcia-type project is must-see
    So this band played at a local restaurant in January and blew my mind. I've been back every Thursday since, and even recorded a few shows. I'll post a Youtube playlist for them below. I highly recommend Boston area folks check these guys out live, and out-of-towners can check the videos - the audio in the recordings is top-notch. The "B3 Kings" is a mostly-instrumental band that doesn't do any Dead tunes - soul/R&B covers and some originals. Format is JUST like Saunders/Garcia "Live at Keystone" (though they do no Saunders/Garcia songs either) with lead guitar and hammond organ trading solos. Guitarist has a wonderful melodic, finesse-y style like Jerry (though none of these guys are Deadheads) and organ player is on a Hammond B3 with full Leslie. The personnel shifts slightly week to week, but ALL these guys are either Berklee professors, Berklee alums, and/or play in nationally touring bands (J. Geils, Ryan Montbleau, etc - they've all been on the SNL stage at some point). The level of musicianship is amazing. They play every Tuesday at the Plough and Stars in Cambridge 10-1am, and Thursdays in Needham at Three Squares restaurant 7-10pm. I go often so if you think you're going, let me know and we'll connect for a brewski. Three Squares is tiny and is usually pretty empty on Thursdays (sleepy suburbs and no one no knows they're' there!). Imagine walking into the Keystone in '73 and sitting down right in front of the band - that's what this feels like to me..... Check it: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAdhYn7_F5kfRjtPZjWq_M2uzp3k3dGGU
  • daverock
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    I have been mainly wading about between 1969 and 1974 this year-especially 1969 and 1972. So I decided to branch out a bit this morning into the post retirement years. And I chose 5/5/77. It immediately struck me what a smooth and excellent sound it has. Nothing is played too fast-or too slow-everything seems to lope along evenly. I have only played the first set so far. Two of the best songs in this set are ones that were much played in 1972-Sugaree and Looks Like Rain. But both versions here are utterly transformed from what I have become used to. The Sugaree is amazing-the highlight of the set-with beautiful long guitar solos from Jerry. Looks Like Rain isn't a favourite of mine-although I do like the 1972 versions with Jerry on pedal steel guitar. But this version is good too. It has lost some of its country flavour, but it is superbly sung-Donna's voice sounds just right, and again it has a top drawer guitar solo. Its interesting though, that the best song of the set ( and possibly the show) is the second one played. Maybe that was a characteristic of the band in 1977- the last Dave Picks was the same -that they peaked earlier than in earlier years.
  • CaseyJanes
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    These freaks are stalking us.. and have been for 52 years!
    That should be on a GD T- Shirt....LOL!
  • Cousins Of The…
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    Awesome show all around, killer 2nd set; Other One is candidate for best post-hiatus; unusual,and goes places. Might As Well, Mama Tried, Row Jimmy, It's All Over Now, Loser, Minglewood Blues, Bertha, Lazy Lightning-> Supplication, Sugaree, Promised Land Eyes Of The World-> The Music Never Stopped, It Must Have Been The Roses, Samson & Delilah, He's Gone-> Drums-> The Other One-> Comes A Time-> Franklin's Tower-> Sugar Magnolia Edit: Comes a Time = GOAT, incredible coda.
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    5/6/70 download - HOT concert on a COLD day
    https://themidnightcafe.org/2018/03/08/lossless-bootleg-bonanza-gratefu… Grateful Dead May 6, 1970 Kresge Plaza, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, MA gd70-05-06.sbd.gans.94.sbefail.flac16 Download: FLAC/MP3 This is flac encoded & tagged version of shnid: 94 Free Concert nationwide campus strikes to protest Kent State killings Details: MSR (MIT Reels) 1/2 Track Mono -> Otari MX 55 2 track (playback) ->TC 2000 Studio Effects Processor (using only the A->D converter, no effects) -> Sonic Solutions (at 20 bits resolution) -> mastered to CD using Sony SBM 2 (No DAT generations) -> CD (from Gans) > EAC > SHN Source: Mastered by David Gans 2/2000 Tape Curator: Eli Polonsky Shorten Converted by Rango Keshavan (THANKS!) seeded to etree by dnsacks@usa.net –Setlist– 101-d1t1 – /Dancin’ in the Streets [16:38] 102-d1t2 – Lost Kid Announcement/Tuning/Crowd [1:11] 103-d1t3 – China Cat Sunflower // -> [4:16] 104-d1t4 – // Jam -> I Know You Rider [6:12] 105-d1t5 – Next Time You See Me [4:03] 106-d1t6 – Morning Dew [11:15] 107-d1t7 – Tuning/Crowd (to end of reel) [:38] 108-d2t1 – Tuning/Crowd [1:17] 109-d2t2 – Good Lovin’-> Drums-> Good Lovin’ [14:43] 110-d2t3 – Casey Jones [5:20] 111-d2t4 – St. Stephen-> [6:00] 112-d2t5 – Not Fade Away [12:09] –disc 1 total time–47:03– –disc 2 total time–41:13–
  • icecrmcnkd
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    Thanks Dick! Good dinner music. Mmmmmm.....tacos and margaritas for dinner, followed by beer for dessert.
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    "Nothing to tell now Let the words be yours, I am done with mine
    "Honey come quick with the iodine" "What shall we say, shall we call it by a name" ~ 9.28.76 ~
  • Deadicated
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    Heady times
    Doceleven surely set the tone for the day! A few weeks later, 3/12 & 3/13, at Fillmore East, the ABB added to the glory of Spring '71. I'm jammin' that now. (The sound continues today through the Tedeschi Trucks Band). For dessert get some Wynton Kelly, "Kelly Blue", 3/10/59.
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    Have the homestead all to myself as well. Wife's at the mall (which will take her hours), and my son's at rehearsal most of the day. Set the sound system to just the right decibel, put on Dark Star from 8/27/72, and opened the window so the rain falling outside adds that extra bit of ambience...
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    Something to enjoy while waiting for jerry pre-order https://themidnightcafe.org/2018/03/10/lossless-bootleg-bonanza-jerry-g… Jerry Garcia Early Garcia Compilation Download: FLAC/MP3 61-07-xx Listed on my tape as Boar’s Head Coffee House, San Carlos, CA Jerry Garcia, Robert Hunter, Rodney Albin, Peter Albin, Marshall Leicester, David Nelson. 01. Banjo Instrumental 02. Poor Ellen Smith 03. Wildwood Flower 04. Brown’s Ferry Blues 05. Jesse James 06. Late Last Night When Willie Came Home 07. All The Good Times Are Past And Gone 08. Darling Corey Deadlists Notes: Jerry Garcia, acoustic guitar; Marshall Leicester, banjo; Robert Hunter, bass?. This performance took place at the Boar’s Head Coffeehouse, located in the upstairs loft of the Carlos Bookstall. Droncit notes: I don’t know what to conclude about the discrepancy in personnel between the two listings. I hear a mandolin on several songs. Especially evident on Brown’s Ferry Blues. There’s an autoharp on Wildwood Flower and ATGTAPAG. Bass is not very prominent but can be heard on most songs if you listen carefully. Poor Ellen has at least 4 instruments: Bass, Banjo, Mandolin, Guitar; others sound as if there are more than three instruments as well. Wildwood Boys 63-02-23 Top of The Tangent Palo Alto, CA Jarry Garcia – guitar, banjo, vocals David Nelson – guitar, mandolin Robert Hunter – guitar Norm Van Mastricht – bass, guitar 1. Rollin’ In My Sweet Babys Arms 2. Jerry’s Breakdown 3. Standing In Need Of Prayer 4. Muleskinner Blues 5. Saturday Night Shuffle 6. Pike County Breakdown 7. Little Sparrow (Come All Ye Fair and Tender Maidens) 8. We Shall Not Be Moved Droncit Notes: Little Sparrow appears to be inspired by the Country Gentlemen’s (1959) version, which they called Little Sparrow, and the Wildwood Boys introduce it as such. My tape had about one minute missing of this song. I used SHNID 4501 as a patch for that part. You will notice it at about 30 seconds into the song, for about one minute. Patch is bassier. There was evidence of cross-fade edits at the beginning of Standing in Need of Prayer, Pike County Breakdown, and Little Sparrow, so there could be material missing, could be spots where the tape was re-ordered, or it could be where the tape was stopped and restarted and the tape recorder rested. I have left it in the order I had it (same order as SHNID 4501), although some of the evidence suggests it may be a re-ordering of songs. Standing in Need of Prayer may be from a different set as the rest, or these may be an amalgamation of material from that night. SINOP has an odd introduction where it is first described as time for a sacred number, and, less than a minute later, Garcia says ‘once again we have a sacred number for you.’ Combined with the cross-fades and other cuts, makes me think this is just a combination of songs from that night in roughly the order they were played. Jerry & Sara Garcia The Tangent Palo Alto, CA 63-05-04 This is not from my cassette. The source for this is SHNID 17914. I reworked it while I was working on the other material. I just corrected the speed. 1. Deep Elem Blues 2. Will the Weaver 3. I Truly Understand 4. All the Good Times are Past and Gone 5. Long Black Veil 6. The Man Who Wrote “Home Sweet Home” Never Was a Married Man 7. Keno the Rent Man 8. Foggy Mountain Top Droncit notes: Deep Elem sounds like Bass, Autoharp and Mandolin or else Guitar, Autoharp and Mandolin. If that’s right, then personnel is not quite accurate. Black Mountain Boys 64-03-06 Palo Alto, CA Top of the Tangent Jerry Garcia – Banjo Eric Thompson – Guitar David Nelson – Mandolin Jim Beamis (Robert Hunter) – Bass 01 Salt Creek 02 Katie Kline 03 Homestead on the Farm (patched) 04 Bare Foot Nellie 05 She’s More to Be Pitied than Scolded 06 They Can Lock Up Me Up For Loving You 07 Somebody Touched Me 08 Who’ll Sing for Me 09 Darling Aller //Lee 10 Set Break Instrumental (“back in 15 minutes”) General notes from the original uploader: Except where noted (i.e., material from other sources), I used a modified Nakamichi BX1 converted for flat transfer for the player; transferred to my Tascam DR-07mkII at 24 bit/96kHz using a flat preamp. Correct EQ applied through Diamond Cut Forensics 9 (alpha). Tracks normalized to -.5 dB. Converted to 16 bit/ 44.1kHz using 32bit interpolation. I obtained the cassettes in the mid-1990s. There were many speed issues across the tapes (the speed problems are also evident in the other sources). Most of these speed problems involved linear and curvilinear speed changes (i.e., the speed was off by different amounts throughout the recording). I corrected these to steady speed (within tolerance for the time of recording). All speeds were corrected with DC8Forensics. I didn’t use any noise reduction on any of it, so some is hissy. There were edits in many places, so these may not be in the order performed, and some songs may be from a different night or different set. I intended to have 62-11-10 as part of this compilation, but my copy is missing some material that is listed on etree. If you have it and are willing to share, please email me at droncit@yahoo.com. I can fix the speed changes, etc. Droncit notes: My tape did not have Homestead on the Farm so it is patched in from shnid 17914. Patch begins at the end of track 2 when they inroduce the song. Noticeable hiss increase. Back to my tape immediately after the clapping ends for HOTF, so intro to Barefoot Nellie and the rest of the show is from my tape.
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"We left with our minds sufficiently blown and still peaking..."

We're headed back to that peak with the newly returned tapes from Broome County Veterans Memorial Arena, Binghamton, 11/6/77. The Grateful Dead's last touring show of 1977 finds them going for broke, taking chances on fan favorites like "Jack Straw," "Friend Of The Devil," and "The Music Never Stopped," carving out righteous grooves on a one-of-kind "Scarlet>Fire" and a tremendous "Truckin'." An ultra high energy show, with a first set that rivals the second? Not unheard of, but definitely rare. Hear for yourself...

DAVE'S PICKS VOLUME 25 features liner notes by Rob Bleetstein, photos by Bob Minkin, and original art by our 2018 Dave's Picks Artist-In-Residence Tim McDonagh. As always, it has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and it is limited to 18,000 individually numbered copies*.

*Limited to 2 per order. Very limited quantity available.

Get one before they are gone, gone, gone.

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The fun begin. I ordered one without a problem. HAPPY TUESDAY!!!!!!!! PLAY DEAD DEADLAND
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How long will this stay up? I bet less than 30min. Thanks Dave!
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...set list? C'mon Toronto philler!!!
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Still digging the color palate used for the cover art. Also like the detail of how in step each of the dancers are, they don't seem to be twirlers, I picture more of a style like the cowboy character in the GD Movie getting down in the cowboy boots. And they somehow managed to work the scheduled system maintenance around this release time. Bring it on.. (wouldn't hold my breath for filler material, but fingers crossed).
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did they play Binghamton, anyone know? I have a R-to-R of a Binghamton concert, don't know if it's this one or not. Also, yes, a set list would be nice.
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Cool colors, cool background. The pathways in the background, and the fish skeletons, and the rooster forming out of the flowers make me think Roger Dean (and who doesn't love a good old fashioned Yes album cover). Glad people are purchasing without issue. I wonder if it will take longer to sell out at 2 per order (or is it 2 per customer?) I have this vision of eBay people logging in repeatedly to order two at a time until they have 20. But I guess the shipping cost would not make it worth their while at that point. Well in any case I have my trusty subscription.
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They played four shows there over the years:05/02/70- Harpur College - Binghamton, NY (amen,.. Dicks Picks 8) 11/06/77- Broome County Arena - Binghamton, NY 05/09/79- Broome County Arena - Binghamton, NY 04/12/83- Broome County Arena - Binghamton, NY
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Can we move on from 1977 now? The band toured for 30 years and there are many great years and great shows. Anybody check out Gainesville 1980? Saratoga '83? Landover '88? Dave, let's hit some Brent shows for a change. Thanks for listening.
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So psyched to a have a subscription for the first time this year. This first one is an epic one too. I've been checking out dead.net every day to see if it was out yet. I got the email that it would be released today & I couldn't wait to hear Dave talk about it. Love the artwork too. I am one happy Deadhead!!
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Have the subscription but decided to buy a copy for a friend (he's notoriously late on these sort of things) and ordered with zero issue. Glad to see the site is running like some smooth butter! Artwork is cool IMO, love the colors and the imagery. Currently listening to the 'listening party' for the first time, sound is awesome!
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so instead i'll share my list: "top 50 original grateful dead songs". 01. Terrapin Station 02. Ship Of Fools 03. Loser 04. The Other One 05. Brown Eyed Women 06. Bertha 07. Jack Straw 08. Wharf Rat 09. Weather Report Suite 10. Playing In The Band 11. Mountains Of The Moon 12. Althea 13. Black Throated Wind 14. Estimated Prophet 15. To Lay Me Down 16. Fire On The Mountain 17. Franklin's Tower 18. Deal 19. Sugar Magnolia 20. Dark Star 21. China Cat Sunflower 22. Blow Away 23. Candyman 24. Friend Of The Devil 25. Black Peter 26. Feel Like A Stranger 27. Shakedown Street 28. Stagger Lee 29. Doin' That Rag 30. Brokedown Palace 31. St. Stephen 32. Sugaree 33. High Time 34. Touch Of Grey 35. New Speedway Boogie 36. Box Of Rain 37. Cassidy 38. Eyes Of The World 39. Truckin' 40. Built To Last 41. Mr. Charlie 42. He's Gone 43. Here Comes Sunshine 44. Standing On The Moon 45. Throwing Stones 46. Crazy Fingers 47. Row Jimmy 48. Bird Song 49. Scarlet Begonias 50. The Music Never Stopped -----
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https://archive.org/details/gd1977-11-06.mtx.seamons.92273.sbeok.flac16 They played Binghampton in 1970, 1977, 1979 and 1983 (though there have always been rumors of other shows in the late 60/early 70s that have evaded confirmation). Set List*: 1)Mississippi Half Step, Jack Straw, Tennessee Jed, Mexicali Blues-> Me & My Uncle, Friend Of The Devil, Minglewood Blues, Dupree's Diamond Blues, Passenger, Dire Wolf, The Music Never Stopped; 2)Samson & Delilah, Sunrise, Scarlet Begonias-> Fire On The Mountain-> Good Lovin'-> Saint Stephen-> Drums-> Not Fade Away-> Wharf Rat-> Saint Stephen-> Truckin', E: Johnny B. Goode * Possibly other tunes on the Official Release.
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Dave drops this so casually... did we already know about it?? I’m a subscriber, but I must have missed that announcement — the good news just keeps coming around!
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Took about 40 minutes by my count..
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Having attended Toronto and Binghamton (I could not make it to Colgate :(and owning R to Rs of both shows until recent downsizing, I always LOVED the Toronto show (small venue, great list and great "little versions" of BIG tunes) and felt (at the time) that the band was a little tired in Binghamton (Slow tempos if I recall) And I believe that this was the show where Billy needed "a light" as well as nice (one off?) of Mexicali > Me and My Uncle Having recently been a little "scalped " on being a late purchaser of the Eugene show,I am opting in....looking forward to "attending" this show again
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In 48 minutes.
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The email arrived 10:12 but I was working in the kitchen. Got here 5 minutes ago and they're sold out. Sure glad I subscribed. First year I've done it.
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Let the complaining begin
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What the price on eBay will be.
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Setlist SHARE SETLIST Set I Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo Jack Straw Tennessee Jed Mexicali Blues Me and My Uncle Friend of the Devil Minglewood Blues Dupree's Diamond Blues Passenger Play Video Dire Wolf Play Video The Music Never Stopped Set II Samson and Delilah Sunrise Scarlet Begonias Fire on the Mountain Good Lovin' St. Stephen Drums Not Fade Away Wharf Rat St. Stephen Truckin' Encore: Johnny B. Goode
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....based on Dave's seaside chat it seems it will be a good year to follow - including what should be a cool & exciting box set of some kind... Not at all surprised this sold out so quickly - people were warned! Hopefully the copies made it into actual Heads' Hands as opposed to Bot Hands... Sixtus
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....clearly your education is not complete. Your list is missing The Eleven and Turn On Your Love Light, Ripple and others. Yes, I know you said "original" and Love Light was not written by the Dead, but they took it to places it to places in '69 and '70 that none did before or since. Epic. Sadly they stopped playing The Eleven in 1970. Now get on with your studies!
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Just got the e-mail today and it's sold out??
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i've never been a big fan of "ripple". IMO it's a lot like bob dylan's "blowin' in the wind". great poem, lackluster song. i've considered creating another list of the best GD covers. if i added covers to this list "morning dew" would be #1, knocking "terrapin station" down a spot. ----
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Awww maaaan....
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I find it next to impossible to believe they processed that many orders since 10:00am...What the f&ck?! Oh well I have a sbd copy of this show anyways
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Oh no!!! It’s sold out already! :(
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I know...me too! Just got the email and gone. :(
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With the amount of Subscriptions sold, there was probably >600 copies out of the original 18k available for a la cart orders
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I willlllll subscribe please subscribe in December (or November) subscribe A LA CARTE IS DEAD (pun intended and not intended.)
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Maybe it is because they warned us 4 days ago with the email that for the first time told us exactly what day and time this went on sale. Has Dave already hinted at which Albuquerque show is next, '71 or '77?
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I'd suggest the decision must encompass the recent pattern: The next box either represents newly returned tapes, and clearly that means lots of '77 and '78 reels in hand from the couple ID'd as the ABCD Corp in liner notes. But recall as well that Dave is holding the Mtn Grrrl returned tapes, a transaction now a couple years old, which I believe I recall had a previously unknown '70 or '71 concert in its entirety. Or, the next box covers a so-far under-represented era for box treatment or even gaps in DaPs. He has spoken of the wealth of material for fall '72 and that such a box is due at some point. We know there's a bias for a) good tapes and b) what sells, while retaining enough of each year to power DaPs for another decade or more. With a '77 DaP for #25 and a '71 for #26 already announced, and believing that 1969 and 1970 inventory is limited (thus only single-show or, perhaps, double-show releases likely), I'd have to place my bet on Summer '73 or Summer '74. With WoS vocals issues, I'm going with a Summer '73 box. (4) shows, (12) discs. That'd fix a hole in the release continuum and take a break from the most-recently-returned-tapes approach. There you have it. Unassailable logic. I mean, I've never been wrong before...
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I think you're right, the logic is unassailable. It will be 72 73 or 74 for this year's box set, if we're lucky. But I wouldn't complain about a rabbit out of the Hat with 1970, the fall is under-represented, because of the whole Bear jail situation, but you just never know what this return of goods May bear. Incredible that they sold 18000 so quickly. I think the dead and Company touring has really helped Dave's Picks sales. And if you still didn't get a copy, it may be time to put your bong down in tune in to the message boards a little more often.
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davidadavis This was also the last of my '77 shows. I saw 7. All have been released so far except for Springfield 4/23/77. That's another great, unique one that needs to get out there.
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Harper College, that was it! Great show!
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I couldn't disagree more with Dave's comments about '77-'78 Dead. He says they were really taking chances in '78, moreso than in '77. No way. '78 was the beginning of the era predictably formatted shows. This is the beginning of the end of the era where the Dead would routinely take chances. Summer of '76 through Spring of '77 was the peak in terms of unpredictability. During that time, songs moved around, jams moved around, and the format was flexible. There were still lots of long jams. That all started going away in Spring of '78.
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Please no more '72 for awhile. There's been far more '72 than any other year, and the Fall sounds mostly like the Spring except for the absence of Pigpen and the addition of a small number of songs.
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Please no more '72 for awhile. There's been far more '72 than any other year, and the Fall sounds mostly like the Spring except for the absence of Pigpen and the addition of a small number of songs.
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Latter half 72 sounds much different than spring. It is probably the one calender year from the 1970s whose set list has changed so much, it's like a different year just about. And the jams evolved enormously in Dark Star, Playing in the Band, China Cat, and The Other One. New songs like Bird Song, Stella, Mississippi Half Step, and so on. Need way more. We've had 2 in like 15 years, maybe more.
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a sweaty sea of Heads! Would be great to add filler from the 5/9/79 (particularly if a SB is in the vault), especially the Truckin' from this show as a comparison. The '79 Broome Truckin' is, I think, one of the most intense of this period, with a cadenza that goes on for ever!
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‘The Last Ones’Winterland October 1974 is screaming to be released. Audio and video.
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Enough 72 already, all shows sound the same. And please no more 77 either, and forget about '71, too many of these released recently. No 80's and 90's, bad sounding tapes and declining Jerry, respectively. 66 & 67 are rough, so none of these two. 68 and 69 have been well covered and set lists are boring. 76 is too slow, 78 is too sloppy, 79 is too inconsistent, 70 has incomplete shows, 75 is non existent, , 74 has bad vocals mix, 73 is too close to 72, which we have too many of anyway.
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Icecreamconekid, I would enjoy that box very much. If I had to choose between that and 1971 Port Chester oh boy. The battle of the multi-tracks. I would definitely like to see a remastering of the winterland stuff. There's something a little bit off about that one with the drums. I think a few people have mentioned that before, no offense to mr. Norman I love man, just would be cool for something more refined. Then I can't decide which one I'd rather have more. I guess since half of the winterland Run came out on the movie soundtrack, I would have to go with Port Chester. Haha cousins, you have me there for a sentence or two! Let's just do it with message boards and that will solve the whole issue
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